I know the market is hot, but this one is totally insane (Del Ray real estate)

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Anonymous wrote:I love Del Ray but that is not a good commute. Why do people keep talking about the commute? It is a really long walk to the metro or a nightmare of a drive into the district.

It takes 20 minutes to be in NW DC by car. It's not a nightmare of a drive.

Yup. It's almost like the people posting ill of Del Ray may not live here...

I was the PP who made the commute comment and I did live there for many years. If you drive into downtown between about 7:30 and 8:30 (at least before the pandemic), there was a lot of traffic and it took a long time. I’m not sure what to tell you, that was my experience. I didn’t bash Del Ray, I even said I loved it. I just think listing good commute as one of the attributes is odd. If you were further south and could walk more easily to Braddock, then I’d agree. But this particular house is too far.

If you have parking available, it's far faster to drive than to take the train. In fact, having lived in both Northwest and Alexandria, I've found the drive is shorter from Alexandria than either the train or driving from NW DC.

Have you driven through Alexandria recently? It is brutal. I'm pretty zen but I can understand why residents are losing it. And it doesn't seem to matter North/South, South/North, East/West, West/East. It is all bad.

You don’t have to drive through Alexandria to commute from del Ray. That’s the beauty of it. Near Arlington/Alexandria border. My commute to penn quarter is 20 minutes door to desk without traffic. Even with pre pandemic traffic it was usually 30 to 40 at rush hour.

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Anonymous wrote:If the buyers have kids, I really hope they're tracking the VA Public Schools other than FCPS thread (ACPS -- what am I missing?). The news from there is very disheartening. A cover-up of a rape at Minnie Howard and then the 11 cell phone thefts at GW? Not good. That house feeds to both of those schools.

Most of all I feel badly about that poor girl. Not only was she raped but now is she is back in school with her rapist?

Cell phone thefts? The horror....

https://wjla.com/news/local/bethesda-chevy-chase-high-school-student-attacks-assaults-security-guard-montgomery-county-public-jacob-moore

https://bethesdamagazine.com/bethesda-beat/police-fire/police-investigating-fight-between-students-near-walter-johnson-high/

https://patch.com/maryland/bethesda-chevychase/racist-homophobic-graffiti-found-nearby-walter-johnson-high

https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/local/virginia/arlington-police-investigate-sexual-battery-case-high-school-homecoming-game/65-21f7bc59-afaa-43e4-87b1-fad06bf1dd94

https://wjla.com/news/crime/probe-finds-potomac-school-teacher-abused-26-students-over-decades-104644

The above links are from 6 minutes of googling and I'm sure there's tons more out there. The point is not the ACPS is perfect (it's not), but rather than no school district is perfect.

I don't understand how people fail to appreciate that 1) kids of all SES backgrounds do dumb and sometimes evil things and 2) sometimes adults do too and 3) bad things happen in middle/high schools...all the time, regardless of how expensive or fancy they are.

Life has risks, and adolescents are not great at assessing/understanding/mitigating risks so crap happens. It's unfortunate, but it's reality. The cyclical bashing of schools in Alexandria, Arlington, NWDC, CCMD, Bethesda, SS screams of people who grew up rich and the mistakes of the middle/high school kids around them were quietly covered-up by their well to do parents and neighbors. That's no the reality most of the country (or world) gets to experience. The schools in all of these places have terrific things to offer their students if a kid comes in open to learning and the parents are meaningfully involved with the development of their child.

LOL at you. It was in one day in a single incident from a locked room. They have videotape of who entered the room but refuse to release it. No one has been charged with a crime. The kids whose phones were stolen were basically treated like it was their fault.

+1000. My daughter was told- and then I was told- that they are 'responsible' for their own belongings and they shouldn't have valuable in their bag. That's complete BS. The kids have to have a secure area to lock their phones while changing for gym. When the thefts were discovered the SRO asked parents to use the find feature and all of them, save 3 new Iphones, were found in a trash can in the library. It takes zero effort to figure out who had access at a certain time to both areas. The suspect would be Id'd in 5 minutes of looking at the schedules.

So instead of arresting the thief, the school blamed my daughter for being a victim. Nice lesson there.

That's appalling. I'm sorry it happened to your daughter.

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Anonymous wrote:I love Del Ray but that is not a good commute. Why do people keep talking about the commute? It is a really long walk to the metro or a nightmare of a drive into the district.

It takes 20 minutes to be in NW DC by car. It's not a nightmare of a drive.

Yup. It's almost like the people posting ill of Del Ray may not live here...

I was the PP who made the commute comment and I did live there for many years. If you drive into downtown between about 7:30 and 8:30 (at least before the pandemic), there was a lot of traffic and it took a long time. I’m not sure what to tell you, that was my experience. I didn’t bash Del Ray, I even said I loved it. I just think listing good commute as one of the attributes is odd. If you were further south and could walk more easily to Braddock, then I’d agree. But this particular house is too far.

If you have parking available, it's far faster to drive than to take the train. In fact, having lived in both Northwest and Alexandria, I've found the drive is shorter from Alexandria than either the train or driving from NW DC.

Have you driven through Alexandria recently? It is brutal. I'm pretty zen but I can understand why residents are losing it. And it doesn't seem to matter North/South, South/North, East/West, West/East. It is all bad.

Yes dearie. I actually live and drive in Alexandria every day. It's fine. It's not bad. Maybe it feels bad for Fairfax residents with long drives already, but ain't no one in North Ridge complaining about the commute. Indeed, the only thing that impacts us are dickwad truckers from Hagerstown.

Huh. We live in Rosemont and commuting around town is horrible. Last week I had to go from the medical building on Seminary to King & Washington last week. It took me 49 minutes and I left the medical building at 3:25. Driving back from school pick up in DC last week the back up on the GW Parkway started before National Airport and lasted all the way to Faccia Luna where I went to pick up dinner, and it took roughly an hour. Then getting over to Rosemont from Faccia Luna to home took 25 minutes. I don't know the exact mileage but probably less than 2 miles. Alexandria sucks for traffic and it doesn't matter if you're a live here or you aren't. Neither of those two excursions were made on the trucker day. The truckers were nothing.

Forgot to say that neither day was the day with the accident on the WW Bridge. Obviously that would louse up traffic.

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We saw this house before it sold. It was really nice but the yard was a bit small and no front porch. We got the sense it would sell for well above ask so we didn't even try.

But we did see this house and loved it:

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/302-E-Luray-Ave-Alexandria-VA-22301/192127311_zpid/

The only reason we didn't go after it hard was because it backs onto what seems to be a carpet factory--and that building's ventilation system is literally right behind this house. As that's not something we could fix, we passed.
But gosh the place was so nicely done and on a great lot. Wonder how high it went for. I think we made the right choice, but still kills me because so few SFHs in the neighborhood come to market.

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Anonymous wrote:There’s a lot wrong with that house. The shared driveway/garage is a huge turnoff for practical reasons. No front door, just the side entry. There’s no place to put a watchable TV. They cheaped out with the open shelving in the kitchen and I hate the way the upper cabinets don’t quite reach the ceiling. Master bathroom space poorly designed.

Some of you really don't understand. These things are so minor, compared the quality of life difference in having a short commute, parks, trails, restaurants, shops, etc you can walk to. Especially after the past 2 years, people don't want to live in isolated areas.

Those 3 bolded items are deal-breakers to me. They lower the quality of life.

Being by restaurants sounds nice until you have to live with the dumpsters being dumped, the rats gathering to eat the trash, and the smells from the dumpsters, let alone the drunks noisily walking back to their cars in the middle of the night and waking up the kids. So, yes, a little isolation from that would be very good.

People are talking about being able to walk to restaurants, not having them right near your house. People want the former and avoid the latter.

??? You don't seem to be familiar with Del Ray at all. The houses are all close to restaurants. Everyone has the rat, noise and vomit problem.

?!?! lolwut?

Are you the same person who goes on every thread to talk about how Del Ray floods every time it rains? Mad that you live in Assburn?

Lived in Del Ray for years, never had a flooding, rat, noise, or vomit problem. You sound seriously bonkers and envious.

PP seems to confuse the Del Ray family sports bar seen with New Orleans. No one is off puking in the bushes when DRP closes at 11pm. Jeesh.

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Anonymous wrote:I love Del Ray but that is not a good commute. Why do people keep talking about the commute? It is a really long walk to the metro or a nightmare of a drive into the district.

It takes 20 minutes to be in NW DC by car. It's not a nightmare of a drive.

Yup. It's almost like the people posting ill of Del Ray may not live here...

I was the PP who made the commute comment and I did live there for many years. If you drive into downtown between about 7:30 and 8:30 (at least before the pandemic), there was a lot of traffic and it took a long time. I’m not sure what to tell you, that was my experience. I didn’t bash Del Ray, I even said I loved it. I just think listing good commute as one of the attributes is odd. If you were further south and could walk more easily to Braddock, then I’d agree. But this particular house is too far.

If you have parking available, it's far faster to drive than to take the train. In fact, having lived in both Northwest and Alexandria, I've found the drive is shorter from Alexandria than either the train or driving from NW DC.

Have you driven through Alexandria recently? It is brutal. I'm pretty zen but I can understand why residents are losing it. And it doesn't seem to matter North/South, South/North, East/West, West/East. It is all bad.

Yes dearie. I actually live and drive in Alexandria every day. It's fine. It's not bad. Maybe it feels bad for Fairfax residents with long drives already, but ain't no one in North Ridge complaining about the commute. Indeed, the only thing that impacts us are dickwad truckers from Hagerstown.

Huh. We live in Rosemont and commuting around town is horrible. Last week I had to go from the medical building on Seminary to King & Washington last week. It took me 49 minutes and I left the medical building at 3:25. Driving back from school pick up in DC last week the back up on the GW Parkway started before National Airport and lasted all the way to Faccia Luna where I went to pick up dinner, and it took roughly an hour. Then getting over to Rosemont from Faccia Luna to home took 25 minutes. I don't know the exact mileage but probably less than 2 miles. Alexandria sucks for traffic and it doesn't matter if you're a live here or you aren't. Neither of those two excursions were made on the trucker day. The truckers were nothing.

Wait a second. You're complaining about the commute from a far upper NW private school to South Old Town to Rosemont commute taking an hour at rush hour? That's on you for poor planning.. There's no where in this entire region you could live and not encounter that sort of traffic at certain times.

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Anonymous wrote:I love Del Ray but that is not a good commute. Why do people keep talking about the commute? It is a really long walk to the metro or a nightmare of a drive into the district.

It takes 20 minutes to be in NW DC by car. It's not a nightmare of a drive.

Yup. It's almost like the people posting ill of Del Ray may not live here...

I was the PP who made the commute comment and I did live there for many years. If you drive into downtown between about 7:30 and 8:30 (at least before the pandemic), there was a lot of traffic and it took a long time. I’m not sure what to tell you, that was my experience. I didn’t bash Del Ray, I even said I loved it. I just think listing good commute as one of the attributes is odd. If you were further south and could walk more easily to Braddock, then I’d agree. But this particular house is too far.

If you have parking available, it's far faster to drive than to take the train. In fact, having lived in both Northwest and Alexandria, I've found the drive is shorter from Alexandria than either the train or driving from NW DC.

Have you driven through Alexandria recently? It is brutal. I'm pretty zen but I can understand why residents are losing it. And it doesn't seem to matter North/South, South/North, East/West, West/East. It is all bad.

Yes dearie. I actually live and drive in Alexandria every day. It's fine. It's not bad. Maybe it feels bad for Fairfax residents with long drives already, but ain't no one in North Ridge complaining about the commute. Indeed, the only thing that impacts us are dickwad truckers from Hagerstown.

Huh. We live in Rosemont and commuting around town is horrible. Last week I had to go from the medical building on Seminary to King & Washington last week. It took me 49 minutes and I left the medical building at 3:25. Driving back from school pick up in DC last week the back up on the GW Parkway started before National Airport and lasted all the way to Faccia Luna where I went to pick up dinner, and it took roughly an hour. Then getting over to Rosemont from Faccia Luna to home took 25 minutes. I don't know the exact mileage but probably less than 2 miles. Alexandria sucks for traffic and it doesn't matter if you're a live here or you aren't. Neither of those two excursions were made on the trucker day. The truckers were nothing.

Wait a second. You're complaining about the commute from a far upper NW private school to South Old Town to Rosemont commute taking an hour at rush hour? That's on you for poor planning.. There's no where in this entire region you could live and not encounter that sort of traffic at certain times.

What? Where did you get that? RIF. The drive from National Airport to Faccia Luna was an hour. That's all attributable to Alexandria. Jeez. No wonder you like Del Ray.

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Anonymous wrote:I love Del Ray but that is not a good commute. Why do people keep talking about the commute? It is a really long walk to the metro or a nightmare of a drive into the district.

It takes 20 minutes to be in NW DC by car. It's not a nightmare of a drive.

Yup. It's almost like the people posting ill of Del Ray may not live here...

I was the PP who made the commute comment and I did live there for many years. If you drive into downtown between about 7:30 and 8:30 (at least before the pandemic), there was a lot of traffic and it took a long time. I’m not sure what to tell you, that was my experience. I didn’t bash Del Ray, I even said I loved it. I just think listing good commute as one of the attributes is odd. If you were further south and could walk more easily to Braddock, then I’d agree. But this particular house is too far.

If you have parking available, it's far faster to drive than to take the train. In fact, having lived in both Northwest and Alexandria, I've found the drive is shorter from Alexandria than either the train or driving from NW DC.

Have you driven through Alexandria recently? It is brutal. I'm pretty zen but I can understand why residents are losing it. And it doesn't seem to matter North/South, South/North, East/West, West/East. It is all bad.

Yes dearie. I actually live and drive in Alexandria every day. It's fine. It's not bad. Maybe it feels bad for Fairfax residents with long drives already, but ain't no one in North Ridge complaining about the commute. Indeed, the only thing that impacts us are dickwad truckers from Hagerstown.

Huh. We live in Rosemont and commuting around town is horrible. Last week I had to go from the medical building on Seminary to King & Washington last week. It took me 49 minutes and I left the medical building at 3:25. Driving back from school pick up in DC last week the back up on the GW Parkway started before National Airport and lasted all the way to Faccia Luna where I went to pick up dinner, and it took roughly an hour. Then getting over to Rosemont from Faccia Luna to home took 25 minutes. I don't know the exact mileage but probably less than 2 miles. Alexandria sucks for traffic and it doesn't matter if you're a live here or you aren't. Neither of those two excursions were made on the trucker day. The truckers were nothing.

Wait a second. You're complaining about the commute from a far upper NW private school to South Old Town to Rosemont commute taking an hour at rush hour? That's on you for poor planning.. There's no where in this entire region you could live and not encounter that sort of traffic at certain times.

What? Where did you get that? RIF. The drive from National Airport to Faccia Luna was an hour. That's all attributable to Alexandria. Jeez. No wonder you like Del Ray.

Try writing clearly next time. You started your story with school pick up in DC. And traffic is certainly not "attributable to Alexandria."

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Anonymous wrote:I love Del Ray but that is not a good commute. Why do people keep talking about the commute? It is a really long walk to the metro or a nightmare of a drive into the district.

It's fantastic compared with Fairfax or Springfield. I drive from basically St Elmos to Washington Circle everyday. It's 19 minutes door to door. My neighbor works at State and his commute is 15 minutes.

??? What time? I drove from st. Elmo’s to Logan circle pre pandemic and it ranged from 30-50.

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Anonymous wrote:I love Del Ray but that is not a good commute. Why do people keep talking about the commute? It is a really long walk to the metro or a nightmare of a drive into the district.

It's fantastic compared with Fairfax or Springfield. I drive from basically St Elmos to Washington Circle everyday. It's 19 minutes door to door. My neighbor works at State and his commute is 15 minutes.

??? What time? I drove from st. Elmo’s to Logan circle pre pandemic and it ranged from 30-50.

Pretty much 8 on the dot. I drop my daughters at MVCS, take a right on Glebe, a left on RT1, veer off to 110, take Memorial Bridge over the river, a left up 23rd and voila, at Washington Circle. It's a piece of cake. Granted it's Sunday morning but Google says it's 17 minutes right now.

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Anonymous wrote:I love Del Ray but that is not a good commute. Why do people keep talking about the commute? It is a really long walk to the metro or a nightmare of a drive into the district.

It takes 20 minutes to be in NW DC by car. It's not a nightmare of a drive.

Yup. It's almost like the people posting ill of Del Ray may not live here...

I was the PP who made the commute comment and I did live there for many years. If you drive into downtown between about 7:30 and 8:30 (at least before the pandemic), there was a lot of traffic and it took a long time. I’m not sure what to tell you, that was my experience. I didn’t bash Del Ray, I even said I loved it. I just think listing good commute as one of the attributes is odd. If you were further south and could walk more easily to Braddock, then I’d agree. But this particular house is too far.

If you have parking available, it's far faster to drive than to take the train. In fact, having lived in both Northwest and Alexandria, I've found the drive is shorter from Alexandria than either the train or driving from NW DC.

Have you driven through Alexandria recently? It is brutal. I'm pretty zen but I can understand why residents are losing it. And it doesn't seem to matter North/South, South/North, East/West, West/East. It is all bad.

Yes dearie. I actually live and drive in Alexandria every day. It's fine. It's not bad. Maybe it feels bad for Fairfax residents with long drives already, but ain't no one in North Ridge complaining about the commute. Indeed, the only thing that impacts us are dickwad truckers from Hagerstown.

Huh. We live in Rosemont and commuting around town is horrible. Last week I had to go from the medical building on Seminary to King & Washington last week. It took me 49 minutes and I left the medical building at 3:25. Driving back from school pick up in DC last week the back up on the GW Parkway started before National Airport and lasted all the way to Faccia Luna where I went to pick up dinner, and it took roughly an hour. Then getting over to Rosemont from Faccia Luna to home took 25 minutes. I don't know the exact mileage but probably less than 2 miles. Alexandria sucks for traffic and it doesn't matter if you're a live here or you aren't. Neither of those two excursions were made on the trucker day. The truckers were nothing.

Wait a second. You're complaining about the commute from a far upper NW private school to South Old Town to Rosemont commute taking an hour at rush hour? That's on you for poor planning.. There's no where in this entire region you could live and not encounter that sort of traffic at certain times.

What? Where did you get that? RIF. The drive from National Airport to Faccia Luna was an hour. That's all attributable to Alexandria. Jeez. No wonder you like Del Ray.

Try writing clearly next time. You started your story with school pick up in DC. And traffic is certainly not "attributable to Alexandria."

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Driving back from school pick up in DC last week the back up on the GW Parkway started before National Airport and lasted all the way to Faccia Luna where I went to pick up dinner, and it took roughly an hour.

Jeez. Talk about deliberately obtuse and willfully ignorant. I concede that I could have been more clear that the one hour was from National Airport to the restaurant. Getting in and out of DC is a breeze. Alexandria, NOT.

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Is Redfin or Zillow buying houses in big cities to exaggerate crazy demand?

Anonymous wrote:I follow the market here closely and thought listing this house at 1.3M was a stretch. But it closed at 1.5! Teeny lot, shared driveway, radiant heat, and mediocre finishes. I also have a hard time believing this house is actually 2,200 sq ft. No way this one appraised.

https://www.redfin.com/VA/Alexandria/307-E-Windsor-Ave-22301/unit-A/home/11844504?utm_medium=share&utm_source=web_share&utm_campaign=copy&s_id=G4voV6I9Tpi7q403UKXT1A

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Anonymous wrote:I love Del Ray but that is not a good commute. Why do people keep talking about the commute? It is a really long walk to the metro or a nightmare of a drive into the district.

It's fantastic compared with Fairfax or Springfield. I drive from basically St Elmos to Washington Circle everyday. It's 19 minutes door to door. My neighbor works at State and his commute is 15 minutes.

??? What time? I drove from st. Elmo’s to Logan circle pre pandemic and it ranged from 30-50.

Pretty much 8 on the dot. I drop my daughters at MVCS, take a right on Glebe, a left on RT1, veer off to 110, take Memorial Bridge over the river, a left up 23rd and voila, at Washington Circle. It's a piece of cake. Granted it's Sunday morning but Google says it's 17 minutes right now.

I mean, sure, on a Sunday. And maybe pandemic times. But pre pandemic, it was 30-50 plus leaving at 9, every day.

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Anonymous wrote:I love Del Ray but that is not a good commute. Why do people keep talking about the commute? It is a really long walk to the metro or a nightmare of a drive into the district.

It's fantastic compared with Fairfax or Springfield. I drive from basically St Elmos to Washington Circle everyday. It's 19 minutes door to door. My neighbor works at State and his commute is 15 minutes.

??? What time? I drove from st. Elmo’s to Logan circle pre pandemic and it ranged from 30-50.

Pretty much 8 on the dot. I drop my daughters at MVCS, take a right on Glebe, a left on RT1, veer off to 110, take Memorial Bridge over the river, a left up 23rd and voila, at Washington Circle. It's a piece of cake. Granted it's Sunday morning but Google says it's 17 minutes right now.

I mean, sure, on a Sunday. And maybe pandemic times. But pre pandemic, it was 30-50 plus leaving at 9, every day.

No. It wasn't. I've been doing this commute for 11 years. Twenty minutes.

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Anonymous wrote:I love Del Ray but that is not a good commute. Why do people keep talking about the commute? It is a really long walk to the metro or a nightmare of a drive into the district.

It's fantastic compared with Fairfax or Springfield. I drive from basically St Elmos to Washington Circle everyday. It's 19 minutes door to door. My neighbor works at State and his commute is 15 minutes.

??? What time? I drove from st. Elmo’s to Logan circle pre pandemic and it ranged from 30-50.

Pretty much 8 on the dot. I drop my daughters at MVCS, take a right on Glebe, a left on RT1, veer off to 110, take Memorial Bridge over the river, a left up 23rd and voila, at Washington Circle. It's a piece of cake. Granted it's Sunday morning but Google says it's 17 minutes right now.

I mean, sure, on a Sunday. And maybe pandemic times. But pre pandemic, it was 30-50 plus leaving at 9, every day.

No. It wasn't. I've been doing this commute for 11 years. Twenty minutes.

During the week between 7 am and 10 am on a regular work day? Highly doubtful. Even if you started at the end by MOMs or RTs you can't even get through Crystal City or onto 395 or the Parkway in 15 minutes from Del Ray, let alone get all the way to Logan Circle in a total of 20 minutes. I mean, if you're gonna lie then at least try to be believable.