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Well, I’m speaking of a shared trail, where they are taking the whole lane, and only after I’ve tried to alert them using a lower level voice. You can choose to interpret as menacing what you wish. I’m not sure if you’re the same poster who keeps using the same Lycra/middle aged man buzzwords, but it’s always clear who the anti cyclists are |
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I live and drive in DC, lived here for 15 years. I don't bike. I'm completely confused by the angst over bikers. I live near the Anacostia trail in Hill East/KP area which is frequently used by bikers and I don't have issues with people mowing me over.
I DO use the trail appropriately - as in, look before crossing it because I know some bikers come on quickly and wouldn't be able to stop, teach my kids to do the same, and stick to one side of the trail so that I can be passed easily when walking or jogging. I drive to work in DC (near Catholic U) and I am just not bothered by bikers. I do pay attention and I'm careful to stop. Where do you folks live in DC that this is such an issue for you to rant about on and on and on? I just don't have the same experience to cause the rage you all are experiencing. |
There is no difference between a shared path or a shared street. You are allowed to take the whole street as a cyclist and pedestrians are allowed to take the whole path as well. The fact that you think as a cyclist that you are entitled to treat pedestrians in a manner that you would not want cars to treat you in a bicycle should cause you some reflection. Because you and other cyclists like you are literally the reason that people hate cyclists and as a cyclists myself you should be ashamed for giving us a bad reputation that makes it less safe for us. |
I don't know about rage but cyclists can be a pain in Adams Morgan/Dupont. I'd say they're a bigger problem for pedestrians, especially because they're often on the freaking sidewalk and certainly don't yield in crosswalks to pedestrians. As a driver, I don't see cyclists obeying any rules, either. Not stopping, not taking turns, not respecting the direction of traffic, nothing. Total anarchy. |
So, you think the solution is to just ride behind the pedestrians for the remainder of their walk? |
To add on, if there were a group of five cyclists taking over several lanes on the road, I would be annoyed as a driver. This isn’t analogous to a biker in the right lane dealing with people honking behind them. |
If there are only two lanes of traffic, it's directly analogous. |
If they don't have the visibility to stop at the intersection, what difference does the law make? |
I commuted by bike for 13 years. Something that people who don't ride in traffic often probably don't understand is that when you're on a bike, drivers violate your right of way all the time. Like, every few minutes. They merge as if you're not there, turn right in front of you, go through stop signs, turn right on red. So you learn to treat every intersection as a yield sign, because you never know if motorists are really going to yield to you. On my commute there was a spot where a road came in on the right, and most of the traffic coming to that intersection was turning right. If I came to that intersection and I had the green light, someone would turn right on red right into me, every single time! It's not at all like driving a car, where if you come to an intersection and you have the green, you don't even have to think about whether to go, nobody's going to drive right into you. |
Do you listen to yourself? Yes. You should slow down and respectfully wait for a safe opportunity to pass. The idea that you think people owe you to move out of your way is what makes you an a-hole that gives cyclists a bad name. |
These aren’t two lane trails that I’m referring to…there is no pass to be had |
That group of 5 cyclists engaging in legal lane sharing. You seem to view the world through a prism that it’s all about you, which just follows the cyclist stereotype that everyone hates, even fellow cyclists like myself. |
Then you cannot pass. They have every right to use that path as you do. |
| anyway, I apologize for derailing this thread. This is about the benefits of an Idaho stop, which I think most of us cyclists do already. The biggest advantage of this being codified would be public education about why bikers have the need to do the stop while riding in commuter traffic |
The issue isn't you or the bikers. It is the 1960's car-centric entitlement of the people complaining. It is sort of like the MAGA whiners. |