How will new Sec of Edu effect FCPS?

[Anonymous]

Just as an example, FCPS could desperately use a charter or two for kids with dyslexia. Kids with dyslexia should have a free option for getting out of a mainstream classroom and instead choosing to attend one that will use methods and curricula much more suited to helping them.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We’ll just end up with more assessments. Sounds great when you are a parent and not a teacher. But all of that data collection and testing ends up on the teacher and takes away from classroom instruction. And we’ll have charter schools. Which doesn’t actually improve anything. They kick out the behavior problems and kick them back to the neighborhood school. Just more taxpayer money in corporate pockets.

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No one cares that we are teaching your kid because we assess them constantly, but that is what is happening.
Charter schools sound good to parents who need control over the uncontrollable and need to “protect” their child from the real world, but in reality they will suck the whole system dry.

Youngkin got elected displaying some remarkably savvy political instincts for a political newcomer.

That suggests to me that he's not really going to impose charter schools on communities against their will, so much as try and facilitate their formation where there is community support for such schools but roadblocks created by local school boards.

FCPS is just one school system among many in the state. There may be other areas where the desire for charter schools is stronger. Perhaps people in FCPS will look at some of the crowded, but low performing high schools like Justice and West Potomac and consider whether a charter could be particularly helpful for some students. As far as I know, the furthest anyone ever got to opening a charter in Fairfax was an initiative by a social studies teacher at then-Stuart HS who thought a more intense program would be beneficial for some of the low-income kids at that school.

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Finally, a rational take.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I am not happy with the direction of FCPS on several fronts but this pick, the rhetoric I read on DCUM, etc...just gives me pause. Where have all the sane people gone?
FYI-this article reminded me of lots of threads on DCUM

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/far-right-extremist-moms_n_61ba330de4b0456499dcc9bf

Dcum and fcps are just so far peft that anythimg moderate or even center left sends them into a panic. It is just so hard left on this site.

Pray tell where are these moderates and center left ideas?

This thread and many other are centrist posts.

The far left of dcum are so far extreme that they view anything moderate or near the middle as "trumpian"

It would do them well to expand their leftist bubbles and get to know some middle of the road folks.

Give me a break. It’s a thread that features pro Youngkin propaganda. Go back and look at the first page.

DP. The only propaganda being pushed on this thread comes from liberals who desperately want Youngkin to fail and who insist charter schools will be his administration's death knell.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I was against charter schools. Then, I moved from FCPS to a state with public charter schools, and the charters have been fantastic. The education has been incredibly strong, and finally my kids have a school that actually challenges high achievers.

I don't see how public charter schools could be sucking the system dry. They generally receive quite a bit less money per student than the public schools, and they're still required to meet all of the public school standards.

The net result of public charters isn't significantly different from the immersion or magnet programs in FCPS. In both cases, kids are picked via a lottery, busing may not be provided, the kids are generally at or above average, and the families are involved in their kids' educations. The main difference is that the charter is getting less money per student from the state.

You sound like a hired shill. Why are you on the FCPS forums if you are in a different state and loving your charter schools?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Just as an example, FCPS could desperately use a charter or two for kids with dyslexia. Kids with dyslexia should have a free option for getting out of a mainstream classroom and instead choosing to attend one that will use methods and curricula much more suited to helping them.

Right. For profit charters coming to save the day… 🙄

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am not happy with the direction of FCPS on several fronts but this pick, the rhetoric I read on DCUM, etc...just gives me pause. Where have all the sane people gone?
FYI-this article reminded me of lots of threads on DCUM

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/far-right-extremist-moms_n_61ba330de4b0456499dcc9bf

Dcum and fcps are just so far peft that anythimg moderate or even center left sends them into a panic. It is just so hard left on this site.

Pray tell where are these moderates and center left ideas?

This thread and many other are centrist posts.

The far left of dcum are so far extreme that they view anything moderate or near the middle as "trumpian"

It would do them well to expand their leftist bubbles and get to know some middle of the road folks.

Give me a break. It’s a thread that features pro Youngkin propaganda. Go back and look at the first page.

DP. The only propaganda being pushed on this thread comes from liberals who desperately want Youngkin to fail and who insist charter schools will be his administration's death knell.

Look up “propaganda” in the dictionary. Uh huh.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I was against charter schools. Then, I moved from FCPS to a state with public charter schools, and the charters have been fantastic. The education has been incredibly strong, and finally my kids have a school that actually challenges high achievers.

I don't see how public charter schools could be sucking the system dry. They generally receive quite a bit less money per student than the public schools, and they're still required to meet all of the public school standards.

The net result of public charters isn't significantly different from the immersion or magnet programs in FCPS. In both cases, kids are picked via a lottery, busing may not be provided, the kids are generally at or above average, and the families are involved in their kids' educations. The main difference is that the charter is getting less money per student from the state.

You sound like a hired shill. Why are you on the FCPS forums if you are in a different state and loving your charter schools?

These types of mean responses from the self-appointed DCUM schools forum hall monitors give me hope, if only because it enables others to see how shrill the defenders of the status quo in FCPS can be, and that might ever so slightly help get their patron saints on the current School Board removed from office in 2023.

Please keep this up. You are doing important work.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I was against charter schools. Then, I moved from FCPS to a state with public charter schools, and the charters have been fantastic. The education has been incredibly strong, and finally my kids have a school that actually challenges high achievers.

I don't see how public charter schools could be sucking the system dry. They generally receive quite a bit less money per student than the public schools, and they're still required to meet all of the public school standards.

The net result of public charters isn't significantly different from the immersion or magnet programs in FCPS. In both cases, kids are picked via a lottery, busing may not be provided, the kids are generally at or above average, and the families are involved in their kids' educations. The main difference is that the charter is getting less money per student from the state.

You sound like a hired shill. Why are you on the FCPS forums if you are in a different state and loving your charter schools?

These types of mean responses from the self-appointed DCUM schools forum hall monitors give me hope, if only because it enables others to see how shrill the defenders of the status quo in FCPS can be, and that might ever so slightly help get their patron saints on the current School Board removed from office in 2023.

Please keep this up. You are doing important work.

Actually, I wasn’t being mean. I truly believe that person is a hired shill.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I was against charter schools. Then, I moved from FCPS to a state with public charter schools, and the charters have been fantastic. The education has been incredibly strong, and finally my kids have a school that actually challenges high achievers.

I don't see how public charter schools could be sucking the system dry. They generally receive quite a bit less money per student than the public schools, and they're still required to meet all of the public school standards.

The net result of public charters isn't significantly different from the immersion or magnet programs in FCPS. In both cases, kids are picked via a lottery, busing may not be provided, the kids are generally at or above average, and the families are involved in their kids' educations. The main difference is that the charter is getting less money per student from the state.

You sound like a hired shill. Why are you on the FCPS forums if you are in a different state and loving your charter schools?

These types of mean responses from the self-appointed DCUM schools forum hall monitors give me hope, if only because it enables others to see how shrill the defenders of the status quo in FCPS can be, and that might ever so slightly help get their patron saints on the current School Board removed from office in 2023.

Please keep this up. You are doing important work.

Preach. With every nutty post they simply solidify the case against them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I was against charter schools. Then, I moved from FCPS to a state with public charter schools, and the charters have been fantastic. The education has been incredibly strong, and finally my kids have a school that actually challenges high achievers.

I don't see how public charter schools could be sucking the system dry. They generally receive quite a bit less money per student than the public schools, and they're still required to meet all of the public school standards.

The net result of public charters isn't significantly different from the immersion or magnet programs in FCPS. In both cases, kids are picked via a lottery, busing may not be provided, the kids are generally at or above average, and the families are involved in their kids' educations. The main difference is that the charter is getting less money per student from the state.

You sound like a hired shill. Why are you on the FCPS forums if you are in a different state and loving your charter schools?

These types of mean responses from the self-appointed DCUM schools forum hall monitors give me hope, if only because it enables others to see how shrill the defenders of the status quo in FCPS can be, and that might ever so slightly help get their patron saints on the current School Board removed from office in 2023.

Please keep this up. You are doing important work.

Actually, I wasn’t being mean. I truly believe that person is a hired shill.

DP. And yet, if that person had posted something appropriately negative about charter schools - so as to fit your narrative - you’d be singing their praises. We see you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I was against charter schools. Then, I moved from FCPS to a state with public charter schools, and the charters have been fantastic. The education has been incredibly strong, and finally my kids have a school that actually challenges high achievers.

I don't see how public charter schools could be sucking the system dry. They generally receive quite a bit less money per student than the public schools, and they're still required to meet all of the public school standards.

The net result of public charters isn't significantly different from the immersion or magnet programs in FCPS. In both cases, kids are picked via a lottery, busing may not be provided, the kids are generally at or above average, and the families are involved in their kids' educations. The main difference is that the charter is getting less money per student from the state.

You sound like a hired shill. Why are you on the FCPS forums if you are in a different state and loving your charter schools?

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Doesn’t even in VA and pushing charters. Hard.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What’s her qualifications?

She's never been a teacher - just a policy maker and data cruncher, which makes her the obvious pick. Wouldn't want anyone with any actual understanding of how anything really works in the classroom. Last sec of ed under republicans was just like her, which is how we teachers ended up with "accountability" policies that were so nonsensical they literally made children and teachers cry.

She's VA's Betsy DeVos.

And the answer to OP is this: she'll issue abstract goals and statements that placate the types that are currently filing for recalls and complaining about schools being renamed and clutching their pearls over theories that are not being taught in schools. On a day-to-day basis, she'll have no effect whatsoever on FCPS. At least in any way that y'all are expecting. As others pointed out, the decisions you all are complaining about happened locally (and although YOU may not have supported the decisions made, lots of people did).

So, enjoy watching . . . . nothing.

She controls VMPI and state level implementation of the literacy law, if it passes this year. I care about those.
-OP

Everyone cares about math and literacy curriculum, even the ones you disagree with. But there will be nothing earth-shattering for FCPS. FCPS kids who go on to college overwhelmingly are successful, in the sense of their ability to keep up with curriculum (math and "literacy"). Sure, there may be small tweaks here and there, IF this comes to pass. And that's a big if.

Otherwise, you'll see a lot of posturing and pandering. And little else.

Do you have evidence of this claim?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Just as an example, FCPS could desperately use a charter or two for kids with dyslexia. Kids with dyslexia should have a free option for getting out of a mainstream classroom and instead choosing to attend one that will use methods and curricula much more suited to helping them.

How would that work? Would charters be able to get more money per student than is currently spent?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I was against charter schools. Then, I moved from FCPS to a state with public charter schools, and the charters have been fantastic. The education has been incredibly strong, and finally my kids have a school that actually challenges high achievers.

I don't see how public charter schools could be sucking the system dry. They generally receive quite a bit less money per student than the public schools, and they're still required to meet all of the public school standards.

The net result of public charters isn't significantly different from the immersion or magnet programs in FCPS. In both cases, kids are picked via a lottery, busing may not be provided, the kids are generally at or above average, and the families are involved in their kids' educations. The main difference is that the charter is getting less money per student from the state.

You sound like a hired shill. Why are you on the FCPS forums if you are in a different state and loving your charter schools?

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Doesn’t even in VA and pushing charters. Hard.

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[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Just as an example, FCPS could desperately use a charter or two for kids with dyslexia. Kids with dyslexia should have a free option for getting out of a mainstream classroom and instead choosing to attend one that will use methods and curricula much more suited to helping them.

How would that work? Would charters be able to get more money per student than is currently spent?

FCPS get more money for dyslexic kids and they waste it on crappy reading curriculums not meant for kids with dyslexia and continue to allow schools and teachers ignore all these kids. I would support the money going to a charter school.

-dyslexic parent who is super annoyed with FCPS