once again, why aren't we more concerned about variants?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Those APE open uppers released a press release yesterday that school needs to stay open:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1BmshBNjuYcp48nlI-Y1SUJVIvmcIUcnHavZPv5Qy4To/edit

Yes, they do need to stay open unless there is high spread within the building as described in SB 1303. This is not controversial at all.

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I don't understand the purpose of the press release up to the point where they say they will lobby to make the law permanent. We know what the law says, so what's the point? Why are they fretting that schools will close?

I'm not part of APE, but I love the press release. I see the same closed schoolers from last year fearmongering on AEM and on DCUM. That law needs to be made permanent so these nutty people can never persuade our local politicians again to close schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Feel free to limit your activities and find a virtual school for your child if you are concerned. My family is going to continue to live our life. That means going to work and school, in person. Our son is going to go to Scouts and play his rec sports and hang out with friends. we might eat at a restaurant on occasion and we are going to travel to see family and friends. We will wear masks indoors, get boosted when we need to, and be careful when anyone is sick. We have home tests for when someone has a cold, to be certain that it is a cold, and will go for more reliable test if we are concerned.

But life goes on and we are going to move on with it.

But you do you.

Life goes on for this family, just not for the waiters, dishwashers, housecleaners, secretaries, nannies, tutors, scout leaders, Sunday school teachers, etc that they infect "living their lives."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Those APE open uppers released a press release yesterday that school needs to stay open:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1BmshBNjuYcp48nlI-Y1SUJVIvmcIUcnHavZPv5Qy4To/edit

Schools should stay open. Stupid timing tho on the sports angle on the heels of the YHS superspreader game last week. What we’re they thinking to push that now. Wait until everyone has forgotten about it next week.

Sports are a fundamental part of school. And the whole team was vaccinated!

SB1303 has specific criteria for outbreaks. Those should apply to extracurriculars too.

This bs excuse to shut down extracurriculars to prevent outbreaks is the same thing the closed schoolers pushed last year to close schools. It's ridiculous.

I agree. It’s just poor timing to make the argument when you have dozens of athletes testing positive at the cusp of a surge, suggesting a problem with testing or mitigation. It’s not that. It’s just a surge and no one is sick. But it risks undercutting the point. Not getting why they thought now is the time to make that argument compared to next week.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Those APE open uppers released a press release yesterday that school needs to stay open:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1BmshBNjuYcp48nlI-Y1SUJVIvmcIUcnHavZPv5Qy4To/edit

Schools should stay open. Stupid timing tho on the sports angle on the heels of the YHS superspreader game last week. What we’re they thinking to push that now. Wait until everyone has forgotten about it next week.

Sports are a fundamental part of school. And the whole team was vaccinated!

SB1303 has specific criteria for outbreaks. Those should apply to extracurriculars too.

This bs excuse to shut down extracurriculars to prevent outbreaks is the same thing the closed schoolers pushed last year to close schools. It's ridiculous.

I agree. It’s just poor timing to make the argument when you have dozens of athletes testing positive at the cusp of a surge, suggesting a problem with testing or mitigation. It’s not that. It’s just a surge and no one is sick. But it risks undercutting the point. Not getting why they thought now is the time to make that argument compared to next week.

Wrong. BS. Testing for someone who has no symptoms is a waste of time and money. Useless so scrap right now. Masks too. Maybe APE is thinking one at a time. First, get rid of asymptomatic quarantine for everyone that has access to vaccines (really should be everyone but I guess I see it for pre-K given how they handled everything else so far). Second, testing (make testing available to those that are sick and to those who choose not to vaccine). Third, masks (they don't do anything anyway). If parents want to quarantine, or test, or mask, that's totally their choice, and APS should allow for that. How many days to Youngkin? Someone who recognizes that we're already beyond COVID and that parents deserve a choice. We're finally going to back to normal in three weeks and all this goes away.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Maryland hospitals are filling up. One already has no beds available for the first time in its history. How do you think this might affect other people, like someone suffering a heart attack or a person injured in a car accident? Not to mention completely overwhelmed and burned out front line workers? People in denial about the stress Omicron is putting on the health care system are just plain selfish at this point. And, again, we have some suggesting it doesn’t matter if elderly, obese, or immunocompromised people suffer or die.

I think this bolded problem is solved if hospitals have a set number of beds reserved for unvaccinated Covid patients (hmmm... like maybe 20% of their beds?). Once those beds are filled up, then the unvaccinated Covid patients and their family members just have to deal with it on their own. They could stay at home, they could try to drive to other hospitals, etc. I feel that the burden should be on them.

Totally agree!

What % do you think COVID hospitalizations are? In VA, less than 10% of all hospitalizations right now. You seem to think "hospitals are full" means it's all COVID patients. It's not at all (and they're not full).

Plus, hospitals and ICUs are typically 70-80% full in non-surge, pre-COVID times (otherwise, they don't make money). During flu seasons, they often fill up. The government had 2 years to expand hospital capacity and billions of $ - interesting they have chose not do to so.

If you're going to turn people away, it needs to be obese people first. They take up way more hospital capacity and it's their fault they lived such a lifestyle. We can also exclude alcoholics and smokers too while we're at it.

Illogical because of the time involved on both ends.

Vaccination takes 3 seconds 6 weeks on the long end if you count the time in between vaccinations

Losing weight,quitting smoking and alcohol takes months or years and is indicative of mental health which has gotten worse during the pandemic for many.

I think you are just trolling to be anti-vax and making inflammatory statements.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'm the OP of this thread from March 2021:

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/961383.page "Why are you demanding 5 day in person now that the pandemic is getting more dangerous?"

Many people responded just flat out saying I'm wrong. Not pointing to any source of information or giving an explanation, just that I don't understand.

No, in fact, I'm pretty sure I understood....Delta was more dangerous....

Do these people ever reflect back on the accuracy of their own past statements?

Anywho, we are once again on a cusp of a variant burning through our population, and some DCUMers are repeatedly posting about how taking any precaution or mitigation is wrong, because we're all gonna get covid eventually, so there should be no preventative measures taken.

Um, if we all get covid at the exact same time, that's a problem. Remember "flatten the curve?" If all the teachers get the omicron variant the exact same week, there is no one to teach even if sb1303 mandates schools are open. Also, 80% of the U.S. population is not boosted, and only 30% of fully vaccinated people are boosted. Which basically means that for 70% of our teachers and parents, they have very little protection against symptoms. If J&J was the shot, that protection is down to zero.

Why would anyone be taking the time right now to post on so many threads about how we should just accept that we're all going to get it and do nothing to prevent that? Who are you working for, Iran's psy-ops division? Or do you not realize how much your advice will lead to chaos at schools when everyone gets sick at once?

Haha - you people fail to amaze me in your Olympic level mental gymnastics to keep from admitting you're wrong! LOLOL

Everyone is going to get COVID. And with vaccines, it's a cold. Let is spread because vaccines alone sure aren't stopping it.

You are a sick person and need professional help.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm the OP of this thread from March 2021:

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/961383.page "Why are you demanding 5 day in person now that the pandemic is getting more dangerous?"

Many people responded just flat out saying I'm wrong. Not pointing to any source of information or giving an explanation, just that I don't understand.

No, in fact, I'm pretty sure I understood....Delta was more dangerous....

Do these people ever reflect back on the accuracy of their own past statements?

Anywho, we are once again on a cusp of a variant burning through our population, and some DCUMers are repeatedly posting about how taking any precaution or mitigation is wrong, because we're all gonna get covid eventually, so there should be no preventative measures taken.

Um, if we all get covid at the exact same time, that's a problem. Remember "flatten the curve?" If all the teachers get the omicron variant the exact same week, there is no one to teach even if sb1303 mandates schools are open. Also, 80% of the U.S. population is not boosted, and only 30% of fully vaccinated people are boosted. Which basically means that for 70% of our teachers and parents, they have very little protection against symptoms. If J&J was the shot, that protection is down to zero.

Why would anyone be taking the time right now to post on so many threads about how we should just accept that we're all going to get it and do nothing to prevent that? Who are you working for, Iran's psy-ops division? Or do you not realize how much your advice will lead to chaos at schools when everyone gets sick at once?

Haha - you people fail to amaze me in your Olympic level mental gymnastics to keep from admitting you're wrong! LOLOL

Everyone is going to get COVID. And with vaccines, it's a cold. Let is spread because vaccines alone sure aren't stopping it.

You are a sick person and need professional help.

The only people who need help are healthy people 60 or under still cowering inside their houses, wearing KN95 or N95 masks while vaccinated, and haven't returned to normal living. Their kids especially are going to need counseling for years to come.

Someone on here was saying how they tell their child not wearing a mask could mean they could kill their grandparent or immunocompromised relative. Sick, sick people to tell that to a child.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Remember "flatten the curve?"

I remember "15 days to flatten the curve" too, which was over 600 days ago. And vaccines have been available for 365 days now.

Lmao this pandemic isn’t ending for another decade. Good luck. And be patient. We’re all in this together. 🙄

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Feel free to limit your activities and find a virtual school for your child if you are concerned. My family is going to continue to live our life. That means going to work and school, in person. Our son is going to go to Scouts and play his rec sports and hang out with friends. we might eat at a restaurant on occasion and we are going to travel to see family and friends. We will wear masks indoors, get boosted when we need to, and be careful when anyone is sick. We have home tests for when someone has a cold, to be certain that it is a cold, and will go for more reliable test if we are concerned.

But life goes on and we are going to move on with it.

But you do you.

Life goes on for this family, just not for the waiters, dishwashers, housecleaners, secretaries, nannies, tutors, scout leaders, Sunday school teachers, etc that they infect "living their lives."

Yup. We are the Scout leaders so not really worried. The kids wear masks at the meetings and we wipe everything down when we are done. So far there have not been any sick kids or adults. One child was a close contact so we added him to a meeting via Zoom.

We don't have a Nanny or attend Sunday school or have house cleaners.

We don't go out if we show symptoms, we do test with home tests when we have symptoms.

Everyone is vaccinated and boosted. Not sure what your complaint is. The whole point of getting vaccinated and boosted and being cautious is to return to normal, with reasonable modifications.

COVID is not likely to go away. The best we can do is take reasonable precautions and live life, so that is what we are doing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Feel free to limit your activities and find a virtual school for your child if you are concerned. My family is going to continue to live our life. That means going to work and school, in person. Our son is going to go to Scouts and play his rec sports and hang out with friends. we might eat at a restaurant on occasion and we are going to travel to see family and friends. We will wear masks indoors, get boosted when we need to, and be careful when anyone is sick. We have home tests for when someone has a cold, to be certain that it is a cold, and will go for more reliable test if we are concerned.

But life goes on and we are going to move on with it.

But you do you.

Life goes on for this family, just not for the waiters, dishwashers, housecleaners, secretaries, nannies, tutors, scout leaders, Sunday school teachers, etc that they infect "living their lives."

Yup. We are the Scout leaders so not really worried. The kids wear masks at the meetings and we wipe everything down when we are done. So far there have not been any sick kids or adults. One child was a close contact so we added him to a meeting via Zoom.

We don't have a Nanny or attend Sunday school or have house cleaners.

We don't go out if we show symptoms, we do test with home tests when we have symptoms.

Everyone is vaccinated and boosted. Not sure what your complaint is. The whole point of getting vaccinated and boosted and being cautious is to return to normal, with reasonable modifications.

COVID is not likely to go away. The best we can do is take reasonable precautions and live life, so that is what we are doing.

Wearing a mask for 2+ years is not “reasonable”. Neither is your faith in the hygiene theater of cleaning (for an airborne virus).

Returning to normal is returning to normal. COVID will be here forever and everyone will get it. You’re just lamely trying to delay the inevitable

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Feel free to limit your activities and find a virtual school for your child if you are concerned. My family is going to continue to live our life. That means going to work and school, in person. Our son is going to go to Scouts and play his rec sports and hang out with friends. we might eat at a restaurant on occasion and we are going to travel to see family and friends. We will wear masks indoors, get boosted when we need to, and be careful when anyone is sick. We have home tests for when someone has a cold, to be certain that it is a cold, and will go for more reliable test if we are concerned.

But life goes on and we are going to move on with it.

But you do you.

Life goes on for this family, just not for the waiters, dishwashers, housecleaners, secretaries, nannies, tutors, scout leaders, Sunday school teachers, etc that they infect "living their lives."

Yup. We are the Scout leaders so not really worried. The kids wear masks at the meetings and we wipe everything down when we are done. So far there have not been any sick kids or adults. One child was a close contact so we added him to a meeting via Zoom.

We don't have a Nanny or attend Sunday school or have house cleaners.

We don't go out if we show symptoms, we do test with home tests when we have symptoms.

Everyone is vaccinated and boosted. Not sure what your complaint is. The whole point of getting vaccinated and boosted and being cautious is to return to normal, with reasonable modifications.

COVID is not likely to go away. The best we can do is take reasonable precautions and live life, so that is what we are doing.

Wearing a mask for 2+ years is not “reasonable”. Neither is your faith in the hygiene theater of cleaning (for an airborne virus).

Returning to normal is returning to normal. COVID will be here forever and everyone will get it. You’re just lamely trying to delay the inevitable

NP- and we will get back to normal, but I think it is stupidity to do it now. Far as I’m concerned people who feel like you do that they don’t need masks can do it as long as it is a voluntary situation (not medical or educational) but a business. You all can be the omicron guinea pigs. The rest of us will watch and start unmasking in the summer when things seem to spread less seasonally.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Feel free to limit your activities and find a virtual school for your child if you are concerned. My family is going to continue to live our life. That means going to work and school, in person. Our son is going to go to Scouts and play his rec sports and hang out with friends. we might eat at a restaurant on occasion and we are going to travel to see family and friends. We will wear masks indoors, get boosted when we need to, and be careful when anyone is sick. We have home tests for when someone has a cold, to be certain that it is a cold, and will go for more reliable test if we are concerned.

But life goes on and we are going to move on with it.

But you do you.

Life goes on for this family, just not for the waiters, dishwashers, housecleaners, secretaries, nannies, tutors, scout leaders, Sunday school teachers, etc that they infect "living their lives."

Yup. We are the Scout leaders so not really worried. The kids wear masks at the meetings and we wipe everything down when we are done. So far there have not been any sick kids or adults. One child was a close contact so we added him to a meeting via Zoom.

We don't have a Nanny or attend Sunday school or have house cleaners.

We don't go out if we show symptoms, we do test with home tests when we have symptoms.

Everyone is vaccinated and boosted. Not sure what your complaint is. The whole point of getting vaccinated and boosted and being cautious is to return to normal, with reasonable modifications.

COVID is not likely to go away. The best we can do is take reasonable precautions and live life, so that is what we are doing.

Wearing a mask for 2+ years is not “reasonable”. Neither is your faith in the hygiene theater of cleaning (for an airborne virus).

Returning to normal is returning to normal. COVID will be here forever and everyone will get it. You’re just lamely trying to delay the inevitable

NP- and we will get back to normal, but I think it is stupidity to do it now. Far as I’m concerned people who feel like you do that they don’t need masks can do it as long as it is a voluntary situation (not medical or educational) but a business. You all can be the omicron guinea pigs. The rest of us will watch and start unmasking in the summer when things seem to spread less seasonally.

You say that now, and when summer comes you're going to decide to keep the mask on because case numbers are surging in Florida and you feel the need to demonstrate your superiority.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Feel free to limit your activities and find a virtual school for your child if you are concerned. My family is going to continue to live our life. That means going to work and school, in person. Our son is going to go to Scouts and play his rec sports and hang out with friends. we might eat at a restaurant on occasion and we are going to travel to see family and friends. We will wear masks indoors, get boosted when we need to, and be careful when anyone is sick. We have home tests for when someone has a cold, to be certain that it is a cold, and will go for more reliable test if we are concerned.

But life goes on and we are going to move on with it.

But you do you.

Life goes on for this family, just not for the waiters, dishwashers, housecleaners, secretaries, nannies, tutors, scout leaders, Sunday school teachers, etc that they infect "living their lives."

Yup. We are the Scout leaders so not really worried. The kids wear masks at the meetings and we wipe everything down when we are done. So far there have not been any sick kids or adults. One child was a close contact so we added him to a meeting via Zoom.

We don't have a Nanny or attend Sunday school or have house cleaners.

We don't go out if we show symptoms, we do test with home tests when we have symptoms.

Everyone is vaccinated and boosted. Not sure what your complaint is. The whole point of getting vaccinated and boosted and being cautious is to return to normal, with reasonable modifications.

COVID is not likely to go away. The best we can do is take reasonable precautions and live life, so that is what we are doing.

Wearing a mask for 2+ years is not “reasonable”. Neither is your faith in the hygiene theater of cleaning (for an airborne virus).

Returning to normal is returning to normal. COVID will be here forever and everyone will get it. You’re just lamely trying to delay the inevitable

NP- and we will get back to normal, but I think it is stupidity to do it now. Far as I’m concerned people who feel like you do that they don’t need masks can do it as long as it is a voluntary situation (not medical or educational) but a business. You all can be the omicron guinea pigs. The rest of us will watch and start unmasking in the summer when things seem to spread less seasonally.

You say that now, and when summer comes you're going to decide to keep the mask on because case numbers are surging in Florida and you feel the need to demonstrate your superiority.

Weird that you get all worked up when someone else chooses to wear a mask.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Feel free to limit your activities and find a virtual school for your child if you are concerned. My family is going to continue to live our life. That means going to work and school, in person. Our son is going to go to Scouts and play his rec sports and hang out with friends. we might eat at a restaurant on occasion and we are going to travel to see family and friends. We will wear masks indoors, get boosted when we need to, and be careful when anyone is sick. We have home tests for when someone has a cold, to be certain that it is a cold, and will go for more reliable test if we are concerned.

But life goes on and we are going to move on with it.

But you do you.

Life goes on for this family, just not for the waiters, dishwashers, housecleaners, secretaries, nannies, tutors, scout leaders, Sunday school teachers, etc that they infect "living their lives."

Yup. We are the Scout leaders so not really worried. The kids wear masks at the meetings and we wipe everything down when we are done. So far there have not been any sick kids or adults. One child was a close contact so we added him to a meeting via Zoom.

We don't have a Nanny or attend Sunday school or have house cleaners.

We don't go out if we show symptoms, we do test with home tests when we have symptoms.

Everyone is vaccinated and boosted. Not sure what your complaint is. The whole point of getting vaccinated and boosted and being cautious is to return to normal, with reasonable modifications.

COVID is not likely to go away. The best we can do is take reasonable precautions and live life, so that is what we are doing.

Wearing a mask for 2+ years is not “reasonable”. Neither is your faith in the hygiene theater of cleaning (for an airborne virus).

Returning to normal is returning to normal. COVID will be here forever and everyone will get it. You’re just lamely trying to delay the inevitable

NP- and we will get back to normal, but I think it is stupidity to do it now. Far as I’m concerned people who feel like you do that they don’t need masks can do it as long as it is a voluntary situation (not medical or educational) but a business. You all can be the omicron guinea pigs. The rest of us will watch and start unmasking in the summer when things seem to spread less seasonally.

You say that now, and when summer comes you're going to decide to keep the mask on because case numbers are surging in Florida and you feel the need to demonstrate your superiority.

Weird that you get all worked up when someone else chooses to wear a mask.

I do for a non-elderly person who wears a mask, especially a man (it’s so emasculating). When I see a dad from APS out in public wearing a mask, I know who wears the pants in that family.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Feel free to limit your activities and find a virtual school for your child if you are concerned. My family is going to continue to live our life. That means going to work and school, in person. Our son is going to go to Scouts and play his rec sports and hang out with friends. we might eat at a restaurant on occasion and we are going to travel to see family and friends. We will wear masks indoors, get boosted when we need to, and be careful when anyone is sick. We have home tests for when someone has a cold, to be certain that it is a cold, and will go for more reliable test if we are concerned.

But life goes on and we are going to move on with it.

But you do you.

Life goes on for this family, just not for the waiters, dishwashers, housecleaners, secretaries, nannies, tutors, scout leaders, Sunday school teachers, etc that they infect "living their lives."

Yup. We are the Scout leaders so not really worried. The kids wear masks at the meetings and we wipe everything down when we are done. So far there have not been any sick kids or adults. One child was a close contact so we added him to a meeting via Zoom.

We don't have a Nanny or attend Sunday school or have house cleaners.

We don't go out if we show symptoms, we do test with home tests when we have symptoms.

Everyone is vaccinated and boosted. Not sure what your complaint is. The whole point of getting vaccinated and boosted and being cautious is to return to normal, with reasonable modifications.

COVID is not likely to go away. The best we can do is take reasonable precautions and live life, so that is what we are doing.

Wearing a mask for 2+ years is not “reasonable”. Neither is your faith in the hygiene theater of cleaning (for an airborne virus).

Returning to normal is returning to normal. COVID will be here forever and everyone will get it. You’re just lamely trying to delay the inevitable

NP- and we will get back to normal, but I think it is stupidity to do it now. Far as I’m concerned people who feel like you do that they don’t need masks can do it as long as it is a voluntary situation (not medical or educational) but a business. You all can be the omicron guinea pigs. The rest of us will watch and start unmasking in the summer when things seem to spread less seasonally.

You say that now, and when summer comes you're going to decide to keep the mask on because case numbers are surging in Florida and you feel the need to demonstrate your superiority.

Weird that you get all worked up when someone else chooses to wear a mask.

I do for a non-elderly person who wears a mask, especially a man (it’s so emasculating). When I see a dad from APS out in public wearing a mask, I know who wears the pants in that family.

The person wearing a mask may be immunocompromised or be caring for a sick, elderly family member. What is wrong with you? Let people wear masks—not sure why you are so bothered by it.