Where do “the elite” vacation?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:PP here.
And if you are looking for where they vacation - here are some of the clubs.
Bakers Bay and Yellowstone and El Dorado are the most famous, but these folks have mastered it.

https://discoverylandco.com/our-worlds

Sort of off spin question here. But HHI does it get to get in here? You don’t know until invited?

I follow two influencers (actually own businesses) so not your Target mom and I know recognize Troubador Club and the Yellowstone club.

They aren’t like country clubs where you need sponsors and letters of rec, etc. You don’t have to be invited, just buy a property and pay the initiation fee and annual dues and you are in. Unless you really misbehave as a prospect or treat the staff poorly, they have turned people away for that.

Understand! Very clear now. I’ve seen this model in other areas like Jupiter Island Florida, but they are more like local clubs buy starts low 500k to a 5 million. The whole farm on site thing too, it’s looking like a real estate trend.

So same places but more high end exclusive except for the few we already know. MV, St Barts.

Not really - bc St Barts is a whole island. YC is only one small part of Big Sky (the most exclusive part) - Big Sky also has Spanish Peaks and Moonlight Basin and more - but that's for the working rich....
many of these "clubs" are for people who've made their hundreds of millions (maybe a big sale of their company etc) - but they are not just lawyers or doctors....
big big difference. the type of person in YC is also not working 12-14 hour days anymore.... it's a different type of wealth...maybe they have their own asset management firm - and just run things, but they are def part of the working rich in the same way.
not sure that makes sense?

Sorry missing word above - "but they are def NOT part of the working rich in the same way."

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I certainly don't hang out in this milieu but I did rub shoulders ever so slightly with a very wealthy clique in college. One thing you do learn is that the very rich quickly know all the other very rich kids, whether from California or Park Avenue or Texas oil money, they flock to each other.

As you can infer, many of their vacations are little more than partying with each other. Spring break trip to Colorado and they take over someone's family's ski chalet and party. Same for trips to the Caribbean. Flights to London or Paris for a birthday party was normal. Big blowout birthday bashes in exotic locations was very normal. They're called jet setters for a reason. And the pattern continues as they age. They still party as affluent middle aged people, just in different ways (less drugs!).

While there are certainly favored destinations like St. Barts, it's not just the locale, but what you do at the said locale, and that involves being with other rich people in their houses or boats or exclusive islands or estates or possibly taking over a small boutique hotel that only those in the know know. They'll even go to locations some of you would never think about, like someone's enormous (huge!) ranch in the middle of Texas for a wild weekend. The ranch may be surrounded by dull tiny towns of rednecks, but the ranch house and cabins itself will be as finely kitted out as the nicest boutique hotels and personal chefs serving food comparable to Thomas Keller. The same is true for going to your Argentinian college friend's family's ranch in Patagonia, or someone's preserve in Kenya. It's a very, incredibly, groomed lifestyle.

I'm the PP who posted about her sister's FIL, and this much better captures what I was trying to convey. Talking about "where" simply doesn't begin to capture how the uber-wealthy vacation...

Super accurate for inherited wealth. Everyone knows everyone else and they know how to spot each other....
they also aren't into sightseeing anywhere - they would never go to 3 cities in Italy in 10 days - unless they had parties or events to go to in each city. that's not the way they travel.
Agree on taking over other families' homes - none of these homes are EVER rented out...they just sit empty fully staffed until someone stops by.
Summer is Mediterranean homes/on the water.
Winter is ski (Europe or out west)
Bday parties in amazing locales (Punta Mita private villa; Mustique, Antigua (near Tory Burch home), Panama (near Aerin Lauder's home), Cartagena (Lauren Santo Domingo) etc...
Move btw home in NYC, Hamptons, Palm Beach, Nantucket, Aspen and Mexico/Caribbean/So America

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:PP here.
And if you are looking for where they vacation - here are some of the clubs.
Bakers Bay and Yellowstone and El Dorado are the most famous, but these folks have mastered it.

https://discoverylandco.com/our-worlds

Sort of off spin question here. But HHI does it get to get in here? You don’t know until invited?

I follow two influencers (actually own businesses) so not your Target mom and I know recognize Troubador Club and the Yellowstone club.

They aren’t like country clubs where you need sponsors and letters of rec, etc. You don’t have to be invited, just buy a property and pay the initiation fee and annual dues and you are in. Unless you really misbehave as a prospect or treat the staff poorly, they have turned people away for that.

Understand! Very clear now. I’ve seen this model in other areas like Jupiter Island Florida, but they are more like local clubs buy starts low 500k to a 5 million. The whole farm on site thing too, it’s looking like a real estate trend.

So same places but more high end exclusive except for the few we already know. MV, St Barts.

Not really - bc St Barts is a whole island. YC is only one small part of Big Sky (the most exclusive part) - Big Sky also has Spanish Peaks and Moonlight Basin and more - but that's for the working rich....
many of these "clubs" are for people who've made their hundreds of millions (maybe a big sale of their company etc) - but they are not just lawyers or doctors....
big big difference. the type of person in YC is also not working 12-14 hour days anymore.... it's a different type of wealth...maybe they have their own asset management firm - and just run things, but they are def part of the working rich in the same way.
not sure that makes sense?

Sorry missing word above - "but they are def NOT part of the working rich in the same way."

What the hell is the "working rich"?

[Anonymous]

Space x, the elite fly to the moon

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:PP here.
And if you are looking for where they vacation - here are some of the clubs.
Bakers Bay and Yellowstone and El Dorado are the most famous, but these folks have mastered it.

https://discoverylandco.com/our-worlds

Sort of off spin question here. But HHI does it get to get in here? You don’t know until invited?

I follow two influencers (actually own businesses) so not your Target mom and I know recognize Troubador Club and the Yellowstone club.

They aren’t like country clubs where you need sponsors and letters of rec, etc. You don’t have to be invited, just buy a property and pay the initiation fee and annual dues and you are in. Unless you really misbehave as a prospect or treat the staff poorly, they have turned people away for that.

Understand! Very clear now. I’ve seen this model in other areas like Jupiter Island Florida, but they are more like local clubs buy starts low 500k to a 5 million. The whole farm on site thing too, it’s looking like a real estate trend.

So same places but more high end exclusive except for the few we already know. MV, St Barts.

Not really - bc St Barts is a whole island. YC is only one small part of Big Sky (the most exclusive part) - Big Sky also has Spanish Peaks and Moonlight Basin and more - but that's for the working rich....
many of these "clubs" are for people who've made their hundreds of millions (maybe a big sale of their company etc) - but they are not just lawyers or doctors....
big big difference. the type of person in YC is also not working 12-14 hour days anymore.... it's a different type of wealth...maybe they have their own asset management firm - and just run things, but they are def part of the working rich in the same way.
not sure that makes sense?

Sorry missing word above - "but they are def NOT part of the working rich in the same way."

What the hell is the "working rich"?

E.g., your basic 7-figure a year big law partner, C-suite Executive, etc.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Ocean City

Ha, good one. I stopped there for dinner a few months ago. I know why we never went to OC when I was growing up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:PP here.
And if you are looking for where they vacation - here are some of the clubs.
Bakers Bay and Yellowstone and El Dorado are the most famous, but these folks have mastered it.

https://discoverylandco.com/our-worlds

Sort of off spin question here. But HHI does it get to get in here? You don’t know until invited?

I follow two influencers (actually own businesses) so not your Target mom and I know recognize Troubador Club and the Yellowstone club.

They aren’t like country clubs where you need sponsors and letters of rec, etc. You don’t have to be invited, just buy a property and pay the initiation fee and annual dues and you are in. Unless you really misbehave as a prospect or treat the staff poorly, they have turned people away for that.

Understand! Very clear now. I’ve seen this model in other areas like Jupiter Island Florida, but they are more like local clubs buy starts low 500k to a 5 million. The whole farm on site thing too, it’s looking like a real estate trend.

So same places but more high end exclusive except for the few we already know. MV, St Barts.

Not really - bc St Barts is a whole island. YC is only one small part of Big Sky (the most exclusive part) - Big Sky also has Spanish Peaks and Moonlight Basin and more - but that's for the working rich....
many of these "clubs" are for people who've made their hundreds of millions (maybe a big sale of their company etc) - but they are not just lawyers or doctors....
big big difference. the type of person in YC is also not working 12-14 hour days anymore.... it's a different type of wealth...maybe they have their own asset management firm - and just run things, but they are def part of the working rich in the same way.
not sure that makes sense?

Sorry missing word above - "but they are def NOT part of the working rich in the same way."

What the hell is the "working rich"?

E.g., your basic 7-figure a year big law partner, C-suite Executive, etc.

I assumed it meant rich but still need to work to afford lifestyle as opposed to people who don't need to work but do it either because they think it is intellectually interesting or fun or because they believe they are making a difference in some way.

[Anonymous]

I'm so non-elite that it took me a while to figure out what PJs are.

[Anonymous]

“Let me tell you about the very rich. They are different from you and me. They possess and enjoy early, and it does something to them, makes them soft where we are hard, and cynical where we are trustful, in a way that, unless you were born rich, it is very difficult to understand. They think, deep in their hearts, that they are better than we are because we had to discover the compensations and refuges of life for ourselves. Even when they enter deep into our world or sink below us, they still think that they are better than we
are. They are different.”

F. Scott Fitzgerald

[Anonymous]

I work for a luxury hotel company.

Basically it’s a step above wherever we have our nicest hotels.

So agree it’s probably some decked out private house, but also what comes to mind is the Seychelles, Bora Bora or Bali, private Greek islands, and a lot of resort destinations in the Caribbean or Asia, or the nicest hotels of homes in any major city globally.

[Anonymous]

My friend who is a billionaire has places in Nevis, Paris, London, Nantucket and maybe a hole in VA. They have their own plane to get there and stay pretty secluded and have their own security. The dad's job/company is "iffy" ... either CIA or criminal enterprise...not sure.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I certainly don't hang out in this milieu but I did rub shoulders ever so slightly with a very wealthy clique in college. One thing you do learn is that the very rich quickly know all the other very rich kids, whether from California or Park Avenue or Texas oil money, they flock to each other.

As you can infer, many of their vacations are little more than partying with each other. Spring break trip to Colorado and they take over someone's family's ski chalet and party. Same for trips to the Caribbean. Flights to London or Paris for a birthday party was normal. Big blowout birthday bashes in exotic locations was very normal. They're called jet setters for a reason. And the pattern continues as they age. They still party as affluent middle aged people, just in different ways (less drugs!).

While there are certainly favored destinations like St. Barts, it's not just the locale, but what you do at the said locale, and that involves being with other rich people in their houses or boats or exclusive islands or estates or possibly taking over a small boutique hotel that only those in the know know. They'll even go to locations some of you would never think about, like someone's enormous (huge!) ranch in the middle of Texas for a wild weekend. The ranch may be surrounded by dull tiny towns of rednecks, but the ranch house and cabins itself will be as finely kitted out as the nicest boutique hotels and personal chefs serving food comparable to Thomas Keller. The same is true for going to your Argentinian college friend's family's ranch in Patagonia, or someone's preserve in Kenya. It's a very, incredibly, groomed lifestyle.

I'm the PP who posted about her sister's FIL, and this much better captures what I was trying to convey. Talking about "where" simply doesn't begin to capture how the uber-wealthy vacation...

Super accurate for inherited wealth. Everyone knows everyone else and they know how to spot each other....
they also aren't into sightseeing anywhere - they would never go to 3 cities in Italy in 10 days - unless they had parties or events to go to in each city. that's not the way they travel.
Agree on taking over other families' homes - none of these homes are EVER rented out...they just sit empty fully staffed until someone stops by.
Summer is Mediterranean homes/on the water.
Winter is ski (Europe or out west)
Bday parties in amazing locales (Punta Mita private villa; Mustique, Antigua (near Tory Burch home), Panama (near Aerin Lauder's home), Cartagena (Lauren Santo Domingo) etc...
Move btw home in NYC, Hamptons, Palm Beach, Nantucket, Aspen and Mexico/Caribbean/So America

Agree with all of the above.

I recently had the pleasure of traveling with some people from this set. The private ranch that this friend group was usually invited to was full (bigger than usual group), and a B list of people were forced to stay in hotels. Oh my God, the complaining. They were so so so mortally offended to be roughing it in a four star hotel. I was really astonished by the whole experience, having naively thought up until this trip that rich people stay in high end hotels. Wrong, wrong, wrong.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:“Let me tell you about the very rich. They are different from you and me. They possess and enjoy early, and it does something to them, makes them soft where we are hard, and cynical where we are trustful, in a way that, unless you were born rich, it is very difficult to understand. They think, deep in their hearts, that they are better than we are because we had to discover the compensations and refuges of life for ourselves. Even when they enter deep into our world or sink below us, they still think that they are better than we
are. They are different.”

F. Scott Fitzgerald

I like this quote.

[Anonymous]

LOL if you have to ask you don’t need to know.

[Anonymous]

I don’t know OP. I would just be happy if I could afford 95% of the trips talked about on DCUM. We can barely afford MC travel.