Dual enrollment seems misguided.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
I've never understood it myself. My kid takes a lot of APs. Why does he need a subpar community college course? He's aiming for a selective college. If he doesn't get in anyway, he'd rather spend his time in high school rather than shuttling back and forth to a community college.

1) So you don't need to understand b/c your kid can take and pass AP exams.
2) You don't need to understand b/c your kid is aiming for a selective college
3) DE classes don't "shuttle back and forth to a community college", they are given during the regular day IN the HS

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I did this in HS in the 90s. I'm from the Midwest. I took dual classes at my HS taught by a college level instructor. I graduated as a junior in college. My college accepted all the credits.

+1, Iowa. I had an unstable hime life, was on free lunch., etc. Went to HS in am, got my free breakfast and lunch, then drove to the local community college for afternoon classes. I was never going to have a “leadership” role in my HS, OP. LOL. I did go on to finish a STEM undergrad in 3 years and eventually a PhD. Saving $/loans via dual enrollment really helped.

[Anonymous]

What's the rush?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What's the rush?

I used to think "what's the rush" when I was dealing with my older kid who couldn't keep up.

But now my younger kid has high stats, high ambition.
The AP and DE classes can save money in college and/or provide room for other classes that interest the kid.
So it's not really about "rushing," it's also for strategically getting the most credit and use for the classes you are already taking.

[Anonymous]

OP: You have not seen this “play out” often as you’ve described.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What's the rush?

I don’t know about anyone else’s kid, but my son’s just over high school and he’s able to earn credits in his chosen college major that aren’t offered in AP classes. I don’t know why anyone cares if it works for the kids and families who make the choice to do DE.

[Anonymous]

Some elite colleges do not accept AP credits either so there isn’t any difference from dual enrolling if those are your aim

Community colleges offers great diversity in age, race and socio economic status in comparison to high schools. There is so much benefit is escaping the clicky teenage high school, scene for an afternoon, at least for me. I thrived in that more mature and self directed environment.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
I've never understood it myself. My kid takes a lot of APs. Why does he need a subpar community college course? He's aiming for a selective college. If he doesn't get in anyway, he'd rather spend his time in high school rather than shuttling back and forth to a community college.

This actually sounds like OP write this.

I feel as if one person with a lot of sick puppets starts about half of the threads here. Maybe it’s just an advertising executive who’s trying to drive more hits to certain ads. Maybe, say, attacks on the University of Chicago help someone reach a quota for clicks from people who live in Chicago, and maybe attacks on dual enrollment help drive up flickered the keyword “community college.”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Some elite colleges do not accept AP credits either so there isn’t any difference from dual enrolling if those are your aim

Community colleges offers great diversity in age, race and socio economic status in comparison to high schools. There is so much benefit is escaping the clicky teenage high school, scene for an afternoon, at least for me. I thrived in that more mature and self directed environment.

The other issue is not all kids are eligible to take AP classes (or smart enough). So this gives the average kids a path to take college classes and get credit too. I would have loved the option. We are open to letting ours do it that age when they get there as one wants to do a dual major so it would be great to get some of the classes over with.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
I've never understood it myself. My kid takes a lot of APs. Why does he need a subpar community college course? He's aiming for a selective college. If he doesn't get in anyway, he'd rather spend his time in high school rather than shuttling back and forth to a community college.

1) So you don't need to understand b/c your kid can take and pass AP exams.
2) You don't need to understand b/c your kid is aiming for a selective college
3) DE classes don't "shuttle back and forth to a community college", they are given during the regular day IN the HS

This, its great for kids in MCPS who go to MC and then UMD.

[Anonymous]

Why are AP classes seen as more rigorous than dual enrolment ones? I did both and that’s not the case. There is much less hand holding in the community college environment and the discussions where less predictable and more interesting due to the diversity of students. One elderly classmate was a former solider in the Israeli army, he was more knowledgeable about the topic than the professor and they constantly debated together. It was fascinating to watch.