Advice - Moving to Bethesda

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Practices are mild compared to games. My DD plays on 09 ECNL team and I was also at this game. Sure, its not for everyone but honestly these girls are playing and I have watched almost all of the players develop from both Dave amd Kevin’s coaching. The only complaint I know of is KL’s joysticking and the occasional “crossing the line” comment. Look no further than results. Years 2009 thru 2006 will likely make the ECNL playoffs this year. No other girls club in our area can say that, including FCV GA team. The 2008 team has gone from the very bottom and now sit in 3rd place.

Richie Burke occasionally “crossed the line.” John Gruden sent an occasional poorly worded email.

Look at where that ended up for them. These Bethesda coaches have very similar reputations.

We have to be careful about what we allow as acceptable behavior around our youth. Winning, ok yes and expected at this level, but at what cost?

[Anonymous]

Too many softees in here.

99 percent of people love DG. He’s been part of the athletic community in Montgomery county for decades, with results that entire time. (From his boys varsity team to swimming teams to travel soccer) He has athletes that grew up as his athletes who now have kids playing for him.
99percent of the girls like him too. He’s tough, but he also cares about all of his players- he follows up with them even when they leave his team. He jokes with the girls constantly- if you don’t understand his dry humor it can seem to be a bit much. Since KL showed up, DG has even softened quite a bit.

So, about KL- not a fan. I feel he wants to be a jerk to be a jerk. You either like him, tolerate him, or hate him. You also can like him as a coach but hate him as a ECNL director or vice versa. I’m personally not a fan.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Too many softees in here.

99 percent of people love DG. He’s been part of the athletic community in Montgomery county for decades, with results that entire time. (From his boys varsity team to swimming teams to travel soccer) He has athletes that grew up as his athletes who now have kids playing for him.
99percent of the girls like him too. He’s tough, but he also cares about all of his players- he follows up with them even when they leave his team. He jokes with the girls constantly- if you don’t understand his dry humor it can seem to be a bit much. Since KL showed up, DG has even softened quite a bit.

So, about KL- not a fan. I feel he wants to be a jerk to be a jerk. You either like him, tolerate him, or hate him. You also can like him as a coach but hate him as a ECNL director or vice versa. I’m personally not a fan.

I personally like DG, but his approval rating is nowhere near that high. He was my DH’s soccer coach and SIL’s swim coach back in the day, and they find it shocking that anyone ever has a good word to say about him. I do think he’s softened quite a bit, and my friends whose kids have played for him recently at Whitman love him. But he gets mixed reviews on the ECNL front.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Too many softees in here.

99 percent of people love DG. He’s been part of the athletic community in Montgomery county for decades, with results that entire time. (From his boys varsity team to swimming teams to travel soccer) He has athletes that grew up as his athletes who now have kids playing for him.
99percent of the girls like him too. He’s tough, but he also cares about all of his players- he follows up with them even when they leave his team. He jokes with the girls constantly- if you don’t understand his dry humor it can seem to be a bit much. Since KL showed up, DG has even softened quite a bit.

So, about KL- not a fan. I feel he wants to be a jerk to be a jerk. You either like him, tolerate him, or hate him. You also can like him as a coach but hate him as a ECNL director or vice versa. I’m personally not a fan.

I personally like DG, but his approval rating is nowhere near that high. He was my DH’s soccer coach and SIL’s swim coach back in the day, and they find it shocking that anyone ever has a good word to say about him. I do think he’s softened quite a bit, and my friends whose kids have played for him recently at Whitman love him. But he gets mixed reviews on the ECNL front.

They are both an embarrassing solution for a club that should hold their leadership to a much higher moral ground. They are also both the greatest salesmen for all the other area ECNL and GA programs. So keep doing your thing BSC. Lol.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Practices are mild compared to games. My DD plays on 09 ECNL team and I was also at this game. Sure, its not for everyone but honestly these girls are playing and I have watched almost all of the players develop from both Dave amd Kevin’s coaching. The only complaint I know of is KL’s joysticking and the occasional “crossing the line” comment. Look no further than results. Years 2009 thru 2006 will likely make the ECNL playoffs this year. No other girls club in our area can say that, including FCV GA team. The 2008 team has gone from the very bottom and now sit in 3rd place.

Richie Burke occasionally “crossed the line.” John Gruden sent an occasional poorly worded email.

Look at where that ended up for them. These Bethesda coaches have very similar reputations.

We have to be careful about what we allow as acceptable behavior around our youth. Winning, ok yes and expected at this level, but at what cost?

If the Washington Spirit had all BSC players, Richie would still be coaching there. BSC players are used to the verbal abuses so seeing/hearing Richie yell, etc. is the norm for them. Heck, even BSC parents thinks it’s okay so why would BSC players think otherwise.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Practices are mild compared to games. My DD plays on 09 ECNL team and I was also at this game. Sure, its not for everyone but honestly these girls are playing and I have watched almost all of the players develop from both Dave amd Kevin’s coaching. The only complaint I know of is KL’s joysticking and the occasional “crossing the line” comment. Look no further than results. Years 2009 thru 2006 will likely make the ECNL playoffs this year. No other girls club in our area can say that, including FCV GA team. The 2008 team has gone from the very bottom and now sit in 3rd place.

Richie Burke occasionally “crossed the line.” John Gruden sent an occasional poorly worded email.

Look at where that ended up for them. These Bethesda coaches have very similar reputations.

We have to be careful about what we allow as acceptable behavior around our youth. Winning, ok yes and expected at this level, but at what cost?

If the Washington Spirit had all BSC players, Richie would still be coaching there. BSC players are used to the verbal abuses so seeing/hearing Richie yell, etc. is the norm for them. Heck, even BSC parents thinks it’s okay so why would BSC players think otherwise.

People love to hate "BSC" because of your personal experience with a couple coaches.

You all realize there's hundreds and hundreds of other happy families and thriving kids with great coaches, right? Just go to your new club and stop letting BSC live rent free in your head.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Practices are mild compared to games. My DD plays on 09 ECNL team and I was also at this game. Sure, its not for everyone but honestly these girls are playing and I have watched almost all of the players develop from both Dave amd Kevin’s coaching. The only complaint I know of is KL’s joysticking and the occasional “crossing the line” comment. Look no further than results. Years 2009 thru 2006 will likely make the ECNL playoffs this year. No other girls club in our area can say that, including FCV GA team. The 2008 team has gone from the very bottom and now sit in 3rd place.

Richie Burke occasionally “crossed the line.” John Gruden sent an occasional poorly worded email.

Look at where that ended up for them. These Bethesda coaches have very similar reputations.

We have to be careful about what we allow as acceptable behavior around our youth. Winning, ok yes and expected at this level, but at what cost?

If the Washington Spirit had all BSC players, Richie would still be coaching there. BSC players are used to the verbal abuses so seeing/hearing Richie yell, etc. is the norm for them. Heck, even BSC parents thinks it’s okay so why would BSC players think otherwise.

People love to hate "BSC" because of your personal experience with a couple coaches.

You all realize there's hundreds and hundreds of other happy families and thriving kids with great coaches, right? Just go to your new club and stop letting BSC live rent free in your head.

I can’t say that I have personal experiences with KL, DG and E. Tin (girls Futsal), but I heard them constantly yell really negative comments at games. I have no problem if they yelled directions and/or encouragement, but yelling negative comments is toxic.

[Anonymous]

I absolutely judge parents who let their kids play for BSC.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I absolutely judge parents who let their kids play for BSC.

What ? We do it for the dubs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I absolutely judge parents who let their kids play for BSC.

Love all of these anonymous posters. Throw stones from every where while never announcing where their DC plays. It is so cowardly. So that is how you are judged. Coward. Just like how you are raising your DC. Run from criticism. Run from insults. Run from tough love. Just run away from anything that might hurt your feelings or pride. Sounds like a great life lesson to be successful in life.

I am a proud BSC/KL/SC/DG/ET parent. My child is growing under the direction of these coaches and playing better as time goes on. She does not let the criticism get to her and learns from it. She forgets the insults and remembers the compliments (which are also given and not discussed here).

Judge me now fine, but I’ll judge you my kids are your kids boss…because they learned how to take criticism and work hard at an early age.

That is all. Enjoy your participation trophy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I absolutely judge parents who let their kids play for BSC.

Love all of these anonymous posters. Throw stones from every where while never announcing where their DC plays. It is so cowardly. So that is how you are judged. Coward. Just like how you are raising your DC. Run from criticism. Run from insults. Run from tough love. Just run away from anything that might hurt your feelings or pride. Sounds like a great life lesson to be successful in life.

I am a proud BSC/KL/SC/DG/ET parent. My child is growing under the direction of these coaches and playing better as time goes on. She does not let the criticism get to her and learns from it. She forgets the insults and remembers the compliments (which are also given and not discussed here).

Judge me now fine, but I’ll judge you my kids are your kids boss…because they learned how to take criticism and work hard at an early age.

That is all. Enjoy your participation trophy.

Is this what it means to be triggered?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I absolutely judge parents who let their kids play for BSC.

Judge me now fine, but I’ll judge you my kids are your kids boss…

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There it is - another grubby little striver.

Zero chance they will be the boss of any children of mine - but hopefully they will earn enough for therapy. Your kids are learning all the lessons you are teaching them.

[Anonymous]

There is a reason why you can find thousands of books on parenting in any given library. Not all kids are the same and as such, different techniques work for different kids. My kid doesn’t respond to this style of coaching but I know some very good parents and extremely skilled players that went through BSC to Ivy League universities and report to have coaches that yell way worse than anything you will hear from these local coaches. Oh and these university coaches ARE women.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There is a reason why you can find thousands of books on parenting in any given library. Not all kids are the same and as such, different techniques work for different kids. My kid doesn’t respond to this style of coaching but I know some very good parents and extremely skilled players that went through BSC to Ivy League universities and report to have coaches that yell way worse than anything you will hear from these local coaches. Oh and these university coaches ARE women.

Being a female coach doesn’t mean that they should or be allowed to be toxic. Just Google it and you will find out how many toxic coaches (male and female) have been fired due to their abusive behaviors towards their players. Just because a player (adult or youth) can sometimes handle the toxicity and verbal abuses doesn’t mean parents should condone (or support) the bullying behaviors. Geez.

[Anonymous]

Predators find their prey.
Bethesda = Bet (s)he's damaged