School Board Meeting 9/23

[Anonymous]

Mr Frisch might be surprised to know that I do not want graphic novels illustrating sexual acts between naked heterosexuals in the library, either.

I also don't want novels for high schools with graphic language describing sexual acts of pedophilia of an adult man preying on a ten year old girl.


Must one tolerate porn in order to be tolerant of LGBTQ kids?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Mr Frisch might be surprised to know that I do not want graphic novels illustrating sexual acts between naked heterosexuals in the library, either.

I also don't want novels for high schools with graphic language describing sexual acts of pedophilia of an adult man preying on a ten year old girl.


Must one tolerate porn in order to be tolerant of LGBTQ kids?

+1000

All of this.

[Anonymous]

Karl Frisch is disgusting. He wasn't a good Board member before this, but now he has his own Omeish-like moment of blatant stupidity.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Karl Frisch is disgusting. He wasn't a good Board member before this, but now he has his own Omeish-like moment of blatant stupidity.

Well, I also checked out Fairfax Pride's tweet.

Neither Mr. Frisch or Fairfax Pride are helping their cause. They are playing into the stereotype of gays being about porn. That is not helpful. For a group that has worked so hard to be accepted and made such progress, this is troubling.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All books that are used in English classes go through a review process that includes a committee with parents of students at the school. Additionally, all books are listed on the syllabus at the beginning of the year and parents have to sign that they have read the syllabus. You can opt your kid out of reading any of the books. Generally NBD as most schools have moved to kids reading books in literature circles (a few book chioces each unit centered around a theme). As for books in the library, you can ask your kid what they are checking out or have them pull up their library account.

Oh my God. What school does your child attend that you actually received or had access to a SYLLABUS??? And then had to sign it???

Chantilly HS. AP Lit

King Lear
Interpreter of Maladies
Posionwood Bible
Hamlet
Othello
Medea
Oedipus Rex (which I know you want banned)

Etc.

“An alternate assignment will be provided if parent or student object to the content, etc, etc”

We had a similar list last year in AP Lang.


Better question, what HS class doesn’t have a syllabus. All my kids’ do. Go to Schoology under “Start Here”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Karl Frisch is disgusting. He wasn't a good Board member before this, but now he has his own Omeish-like moment of blatant stupidity.

Well, I also checked out Fairfax Pride's tweet.

Neither Mr. Frisch or Fairfax Pride are helping their cause. They are playing into the stereotype of gays being about porn. That is not helpful. For a group that has worked so hard to be accepted and made such progress, this is troubling.

I guess he thinks the way to progress is San Francisco Gay Men's Choir "We're Coming for Your Children" style. This is an especially bad look considering he isn't even a parent.

We went from "love is love" and "who cares what consenting adults do" to.... this.

Troubling indeed, for society generally, for gay people and for those of us who are straight with gay family we want to see safe, accepted and thriving. Let's not go backwards please.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I feel terrible that school librarians are now going to be targets of this insane witch hunt. It is all for politics and all for show and yet it is going to create enormous stress, interfere with the important work that they do, and cause real harm to people.

It is so clear that these people don’t actually believe anything that they say and they don’t care what harm they cause. They know children are in the audience and yet read passages that they know are intended for a young adult audience. Elementary schoolers are not highschoolers. Those passages are not in any books in an elementary school library. But they don’t care, because it’s all just a big stunt. Conflating high school readers with kindergarten readers is precisely what they do. And they don’t care that I kindergarten or is actually listening, because actually caring about children is not the point. Ginning up political outrage is the point. They disgust me.

DP. Start by assuming that parents do care about their children. That their actions are not purely political or performative.

It'll help you to understand them and will lower your blood pressure.

+1

Clearly, the School Board was offended by the language. Some are saying there were no young children there last night. It doesn't matter. I was listening and I was offended. And, to those discussing "book banning" this is not the same.

It's up to the publisher whether or not to purchase the book. Choosing not to purchase a book that is in the library of minors is not "book banning." It is using good judgment.

It seems not everyone on the School Board was offended by the language. At least one Board member seems to think it's not only appropriate, but necessary, reading.

He must be into pedophilia.

There is a very dark underbelly to this type of literature. There is a sick movement to “normalize” pedophilia. This isn’t a gay rights issue. And this is a very slippery slope.

[Anonymous]

They took the video of last nights session down off YouTube?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's in a Secondary School library. Are the middle school books kept separately from the high school ones?

And, I am a defender of free speech--but this is a school library where the readers are minors.

They also have choice to NOT check the book out. I feel no need to protect my HS from the word di*k. The kids are watching porn on the bus.

This is not a good thing.

+1. Technically not allowed and forces kids around to be exposed whether they want to or not.

I can’t believe some PPs are all “a slight majority of high school kids have had sex, NBD!” What about kids who haven’t and don’t want to read smut in their literary fiction? That was me all through HS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All books that are used in English classes go through a review process that includes a committee with parents of students at the school. Additionally, all books are listed on the syllabus at the beginning of the year and parents have to sign that they have read the syllabus. You can opt your kid out of reading any of the books. Generally NBD as most schools have moved to kids reading books in literature circles (a few book chioces each unit centered around a theme). As for books in the library, you can ask your kid what they are checking out or have them pull up their library account.

Oh my God. What school does your child attend that you actually received or had access to a SYLLABUS??? And then had to sign it???

Chantilly HS. AP Lit

King Lear
Interpreter of Maladies
Posionwood Bible
Hamlet
Othello
Medea
Oedipus Rex (which I know you want banned)

Etc.

“An alternate assignment will be provided if parent or student object to the content, etc, etc”

We had a similar list last year in AP Lang.


Better question, what HS class doesn’t have a syllabus. All my kids’ do. Go to Schoology under “Start Here”

LCPS didn’t have any sort of syllabus sent home. Where did I state that I wanted “Oedipus Rex” banned? I was expressing shock that you claimed you actually saw your child’s course syllabus that required your signature. Ease up! IME, LCPS sends nothing home and requires no signatures for anything.

[Anonymous]

Well this is an FCPS board, so you can understand why PP thought you were referring to an FCPS school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:And now we have regular wannabe right wing media viral star, Asra Nomani. Again.

Is she gunning for a job on Newsmax or something?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And now we have regular wannabe right wing media viral star, Asra Nomani. Again.

Is she gunning for a job on Newsmax or something?

Maybe she just sees egregious actions on the part of our School Board. After all, she is a journalist. You have a problem with that?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And now we have regular wannabe right wing media viral star, Asra Nomani. Again.

Is she gunning for a job on Newsmax or something?

Maybe she just sees egregious actions on the part of our School Board. After all, she is a journalist. You have a problem with that?

She's a shill for the GOP.

[Anonymous]

Parents aren't supposed to have opinions about schools.

They are supposed to be subjects, not citizens!

Send your kid and shut up about the decisions made by your betters.