Speak for yourself. Something your mother should have taught you. |
+1 As someone who fled the South, I would rather have someone without "manners" talk to me frankly and honestly than someone with "manners" being polite then stabbing me in the back. |
| Ah ducks, brings back memories of my debutant days in Baltimore. Married the first boy I kissed and then retired to a farmette in Glyndon. DD attended Garrison Forest, summers in Rehoboth. If I had the chance to do it all again I wouldn’t change a thing. |
| Cotillion is something white upper middle class parents send their cisgender kids to. Anyone who doesn’t fit this dynamic will feel out of place. That’s the problem. |
Isn’t the purpose of cotillion that your mother doesn’t need to teach you stuff like this, the manners teacher does instead? |
Et tu. |
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"Cisgender."
XX/XY but you do you. See you on the other side of reality. |
Except all the black cotillions, which have been around since the 40s. Other than that, erm yes, you are still not knowledgeable. Perhaps you should be less judgey and learn from a quick Google search? |
XX/XY refers to sex chromosomes, not gender. That is reality, one side fits all. When my kids were younger, some of their friends did cotillion, but my spouse (from the South) and I figured our children learn proper etiquette from us and their grandparents. |
There were black kids at my cotillion in middle school and today there is a significant number of children of color (all colors)and several of my black friends who live there send their kids to that same cotillion which still is in existence. And I am from, are you ready for this....Richmond. |
Do you even know what "woke" means? There is nothing woke about cotillion. |
| I used to threaten my kids with cotillion any time they showed particularly crappy manners. It worked great. |
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I find it entertaining that so many of those criticizing cotillion as something parents should be teaching, probably also worked with their kids in the pool while also signing them up for swim lessons.
What's the big deal? Outside reinforcements can be helpful. |
Well, learning to swim is fairly straightforward and universal. Learning "manners" is far more specific to a family culture/values. The cotillion near me is all about ladies and gentlemen in a country club setting and is not what I think is important to emphasize. Hence, it's a lot harder to successfully outsource the teaching of manners than swimming. |
| It's not for us. My son has a lot of activities, between sports and band and clubs at school. He's not interested in dancing or going on dates at this point, so this is not something we'd try to squeeze in with his other obligations. If it works for some other family, good for them. |