ECNL moving to school year not calendar

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Anonymous wrote:They need to put a statement out that says no changes for 25-26 so we can stop going in circles and they focus on roll out plan for 26.

If ECNL tries to bring on SY earlier it will likely push players to BY leagues if MLSN + GA stays BY.

💯 this!
With this development ECNL has to now also retain a BY option (and stay aligned to national & international standards) or they will lose their top players & teams.
Or maybe the breakdown in youth soccer will now be be ECNL (SY) becomes largely the REC level league and MSLN-GA (BY) is where the highly competitive players go (as already occurring on the boys side).

All the bickering over ECNL vs MLSN/GA aside, wouldn't it work better if each metro area had just one funded academy arranged by BY, and the rest of the youth system was arranged by SY? They could still play each other in whatever league or tournaments, with the cutoff being SY to allow a slight (4 month) advantage for the non-academy teams to challenge them. Only the BY academy teams need to travel around the country all the time - the masses of SY teams can stay regional. That would keep our very best arranged by BY for youth national teams, and ensure that they had local competition that was given a slight advantage to challenge them. And that's still probably 10x the number of kids in the BY academies compared to the amount that will actually go pro.

What about metro areas with no pro teams to fund an academy? In many areas there aren't enough players to only have regional teams. They need to travel far to find good competition. Then there is the whole thing about college recruiting which is the primary reason these national leagues exist in the first place - to provide a centralized place where college coaches can go and see all the players. Organizing the system around going pro and fielding national teams comes at the expense of the majority, and the majority is where the money comes from. Youth soccer in the US is first and foremost a business because it isn't popular enough in the US to have pro teams with lucrative TV contracts to fund academies.

MLS should align themselves with USL teams, like the MLB with their farm clubs.

They did, it ended.

MLSN Pro killed the partnership it seems. Do you think promotion and relegation would work in the US?

Here's a 1665 page thread to consider: https://www.bigsoccer.com/threads/the-all-encompassing-pro-rel-thread-on-soccer-in-the-usa.2029961/

Short answer - NO

Haha thanks

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Anonymous wrote:someone help me understand the issue

Issues are being manufactured on every page.
Starting with the massive trapped player catastrophe

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ECNL silence is deafening

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Anonymous wrote:ECNL silence is deafening

It is much quieter compared to before 11/22. Wait for March.

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And we’re so close to 500

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It essentially schisms the soccer season into two seasons, spring and fall rather than one long spring summer fall season.

I rather liked the winter cutoffs; IMO the schools should do a better job of accommodating summertime activities. Like why baseball is only a spring activity.

I really don't like the school year cutoffs in AAU basketball. Red shirting and what not.

The problem is you go to a tournament. The tournament says 3rd/4th grade, but you end up playing 3rd/4th/5th...6th. 6th graders playing in 3rd grade tournaments, early maturers going through puberty already. Aye caramba! No one cares about the score at that age group but losing 60 to 0 isn't a very good learning experience. I thought this was one area where soccer was ahead of the curve.

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Anonymous wrote:It essentially schisms the soccer season into two seasons, spring and fall rather than one long spring summer fall season.

I rather liked the winter cutoffs; IMO the schools should do a better job of accommodating summertime activities. Like why baseball is only a spring activity.

I really don't like the school year cutoffs in AAU basketball. Red shirting and what not.

The problem is you go to a tournament. The tournament says 3rd/4th grade, but you end up playing 3rd/4th/5th...6th. 6th graders playing in 3rd grade tournaments, early maturers going through puberty already. Aye caramba! No one cares about the score at that age group but losing 60 to 0 isn't a very good learning experience. I thought this was one area where soccer was ahead of the curve.

Huh?

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Anonymous wrote:You will hear more in our next podcast…psych!

Yeah podcast, just trying to start PR campaign to block international players in college soccer and nothing on age cutoff.

Might be waiting for word from USSF in a week or so.

It’s like one of the hosts has a kid that didn’t do so hot in recruiting…and they’re seeking excuses…trapped…internationals stealing his roster spot, etc…. God help us if his kid decides he wants to be on the national team or go pro…or maybe the girl he likes doesn’t want to date him…maybe we can change the rules then too. It is absurd that we are doing activism by anecdotes at this point.

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Anonymous wrote:Why do we think they did not mention this?

I think because there is no Ecnl position yet and Ecnl told them not to discuss.

Don't know but 2 weeks ago they said a developmental guest was, they thought suppose to be on next podcast, and going to discuss BY vs SY and that guest clearly wasn't on.

USSF said they were communicating their final decision by the end of the year. Would be odd for ECNL to announce anything before that I guess.

Maybe the did the interview but couldn’t use it…because SURPRISE!!!…the guest couldn’t
back up the BS they’ve been spouting as “educated opinions” (that are more like dorm room drunk debates)

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Anonymous wrote:someone help me understand the issue

Issues are being manufactured on every page.
Starting with the massive trapped player catastrophe

100%

Luckily nobody has discovered the internment camps USSF has been sending the q4 players to. Once they discovered those, it will be all over for Q1 players.

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What happened on the podcast? 8/1 or 9/1?

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Anonymous wrote:What happened on the podcast? 8/1 or 9/1?

lol - what a great comment.

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I didn’t see where US Soccer said they would release any info by the end of the year. The update statement sent out says late Feb/March. So it looks like we will not get anything till then

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Anonymous wrote:What happened on the podcast? 8/1 or 9/1?

Official statements be dammed...what did the podcast say????

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They said nothing on the subject, which makes everyone wonder why. Are they just going to do what US Soccer says? Did they work out a deal with them? Are they cooking up their own plan to move forward?
Let the conspiracy rumors fly!!