Western High School Boundary Map options (A/B/C/D)

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Are you from SLHS, Westfield, or are you from Chantilly. Which one of the school is better than Oakton?

One thing for sure is that your kids is going to KAA and you are upset to hear that KAA can not be better than Oakton.

I think you are expecting a KAA to be the only top tier school in west part of fcps. The only way KAA can be the top tier is to become a magnet school.

I was asked why people have a problem with the Oakton families pitch, and the issue is you sound like elitists who think that the other kids being moved to the new school are going to be beneath you.

You do realize that there are people with kids at SLHS who wouldn't want to be moved to Oakton, right? Different people value different things. SLHS has a strong community and lots of kids have had a great experience there. The families are not worried about the rating and there are plenty of kids going to strong colleges. There are even people who love IB. The SLHS families I know worried about being moved are concerned about the lack of programs in the first bunch of years but mainly feel like they are a part of a strong community. They know that will build over time but the genuinely love their school.

The difference is when they talk about their school, they don't sound like elitists who are hoping and praying that their kids are not moved from the school to a school that is beneath them. Oakton families that don't want to move sound like they are going to be punished by having to go to a HS with kids from Oak Hill, Floris, and Coates. Great Falls families have the same problem. They sound like snobs. The argument that your kids should be at a school that is a 30-40 minute bus drive when there is a school 10 minutes away is kind of ridiculous. And your logic for why you should stay there is that the other schools aren't as good and you don't want to go there.

If you can't understand why that sounds bad, then I don't know what to tell you.

People want what they feel is best for their kids and that may require a longer bus ride.

Building resilience is awesome 👌

Way to grossly misuse the term resilience. Maybe talk to some people who grew up taking a long bus ride to Oakton. Many do not speak of the experience fondly. What parents want and what kids value are not always the same. I bet you don't even ask your kids what they would prefer. Grown adults of parents like this have some interesting things to say about their parents.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are you from SLHS, Westfield, or are you from Chantilly. Which one of the school is better than Oakton?

One thing for sure is that your kids is going to KAA and you are upset to hear that KAA can not be better than Oakton.

I think you are expecting a KAA to be the only top tier school in west part of fcps. The only way KAA can be the top tier is to become a magnet school.

I was asked why people have a problem with the Oakton families pitch, and the issue is you sound like elitists who think that the other kids being moved to the new school are going to be beneath you.

You do realize that there are people with kids at SLHS who wouldn't want to be moved to Oakton, right? Different people value different things. SLHS has a strong community and lots of kids have had a great experience there. The families are not worried about the rating and there are plenty of kids going to strong colleges. There are even people who love IB. The SLHS families I know worried about being moved are concerned about the lack of programs in the first bunch of years but mainly feel like they are a part of a strong community. They know that will build over time but the genuinely love their school.

The difference is when they talk about their school, they don't sound like elitists who are hoping and praying that their kids are not moved from the school to a school that is beneath them. Oakton families that don't want to move sound like they are going to be punished by having to go to a HS with kids from Oak Hill, Floris, and Coates. Great Falls families have the same problem. They sound like snobs. The argument that your kids should be at a school that is a 30-40 minute bus drive when there is a school 10 minutes away is kind of ridiculous. And your logic for why you should stay there is that the other schools aren't as good and you don't want to go there.

If you can't understand why that sounds bad, then I don't know what to tell you.

Great Falls families sound like snobs because they don’t want their kids to go to Herndon High which had a student recently murdered in a drive-by after receiving death threats at Herndon High from fellow students?

Call me crazy, but that doesn’t sound snobby to me. Sounds like great falls families want their kids to be safe from violence.

Franklin Farm families and neighborhoos families that want to leave Oakton:

Please also reconsider what is best for your kids: convenience for adults. Vs. Safety for kids

Sigh, if they want to move our kids around like pawns without regard to their mental health, they’ll at least have to get a handle on the safety issues that are a real concern at many of the high schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are you from SLHS, Westfield, or are you from Chantilly. Which one of the school is better than Oakton?

One thing for sure is that your kids is going to KAA and you are upset to hear that KAA can not be better than Oakton.

I think you are expecting a KAA to be the only top tier school in west part of fcps. The only way KAA can be the top tier is to become a magnet school.

I was asked why people have a problem with the Oakton families pitch, and the issue is you sound like elitists who think that the other kids being moved to the new school are going to be beneath you.

You do realize that there are people with kids at SLHS who wouldn't want to be moved to Oakton, right? Different people value different things. SLHS has a strong community and lots of kids have had a great experience there. The families are not worried about the rating and there are plenty of kids going to strong colleges. There are even people who love IB. The SLHS families I know worried about being moved are concerned about the lack of programs in the first bunch of years but mainly feel like they are a part of a strong community. They know that will build over time but the genuinely love their school.

The difference is when they talk about their school, they don't sound like elitists who are hoping and praying that their kids are not moved from the school to a school that is beneath them. Oakton families that don't want to move sound like they are going to be punished by having to go to a HS with kids from Oak Hill, Floris, and Coates. Great Falls families have the same problem. They sound like snobs. The argument that your kids should be at a school that is a 30-40 minute bus drive when there is a school 10 minutes away is kind of ridiculous. And your logic for why you should stay there is that the other schools aren't as good and you don't want to go there.

If you can't understand why that sounds bad, then I don't know what to tell you.

People want what they feel is best for their kids and that may require a longer bus ride.

Building resilience is awesome 👌

Way to grossly misuse the term resilience. Maybe talk to some people who grew up taking a long bus ride to Oakton. Many do not speak of the experience fondly. What parents want and what kids value are not always the same. I bet you don't even ask your kids what they would prefer. Grown adults of parents like this have some interesting things to say about their parents.

DP, my kids prefer to eat candy for dinner, so I’m not quite sure I see your point.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are you from SLHS, Westfield, or are you from Chantilly. Which one of the school is better than Oakton?

One thing for sure is that your kids is going to KAA and you are upset to hear that KAA can not be better than Oakton.

I think you are expecting a KAA to be the only top tier school in west part of fcps. The only way KAA can be the top tier is to become a magnet school.

I was asked why people have a problem with the Oakton families pitch, and the issue is you sound like elitists who think that the other kids being moved to the new school are going to be beneath you.

You do realize that there are people with kids at SLHS who wouldn't want to be moved to Oakton, right? Different people value different things. SLHS has a strong community and lots of kids have had a great experience there. The families are not worried about the rating and there are plenty of kids going to strong colleges. There are even people who love IB. The SLHS families I know worried about being moved are concerned about the lack of programs in the first bunch of years but mainly feel like they are a part of a strong community. They know that will build over time but the genuinely love their school.

The difference is when they talk about their school, they don't sound like elitists who are hoping and praying that their kids are not moved from the school to a school that is beneath them. Oakton families that don't want to move sound like they are going to be punished by having to go to a HS with kids from Oak Hill, Floris, and Coates. Great Falls families have the same problem. They sound like snobs. The argument that your kids should be at a school that is a 30-40 minute bus drive when there is a school 10 minutes away is kind of ridiculous. And your logic for why you should stay there is that the other schools aren't as good and you don't want to go there.

If you can't understand why that sounds bad, then I don't know what to tell you.

People want what they feel is best for their kids and that may require a longer bus ride.

Building resilience is awesome 👌

Way to grossly misuse the term resilience. Maybe talk to some people who grew up taking a long bus ride to Oakton. Many do not speak of the experience fondly. What parents want and what kids value are not always the same. I bet you don't even ask your kids what they would prefer. Grown adults of parents like this have some interesting things to say about their parents.

My kids like long bus ride because they can play video games

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are you from SLHS, Westfield, or are you from Chantilly. Which one of the school is better than Oakton?

One thing for sure is that your kids is going to KAA and you are upset to hear that KAA can not be better than Oakton.

I think you are expecting a KAA to be the only top tier school in west part of fcps. The only way KAA can be the top tier is to become a magnet school.

I was asked why people have a problem with the Oakton families pitch, and the issue is you sound like elitists who think that the other kids being moved to the new school are going to be beneath you.

You do realize that there are people with kids at SLHS who wouldn't want to be moved to Oakton, right? Different people value different things. SLHS has a strong community and lots of kids have had a great experience there. The families are not worried about the rating and there are plenty of kids going to strong colleges. There are even people who love IB. The SLHS families I know worried about being moved are concerned about the lack of programs in the first bunch of years but mainly feel like they are a part of a strong community. They know that will build over time but the genuinely love their school.

The difference is when they talk about their school, they don't sound like elitists who are hoping and praying that their kids are not moved from the school to a school that is beneath them. Oakton families that don't want to move sound like they are going to be punished by having to go to a HS with kids from Oak Hill, Floris, and Coates. Great Falls families have the same problem. They sound like snobs. The argument that your kids should be at a school that is a 30-40 minute bus drive when there is a school 10 minutes away is kind of ridiculous. And your logic for why you should stay there is that the other schools aren't as good and you don't want to go there.

If you can't understand why that sounds bad, then I don't know what to tell you.

People want what they feel is best for their kids and that may require a longer bus ride.

Building resilience is awesome 👌

Way to grossly misuse the term resilience. Maybe talk to some people who grew up taking a long bus ride to Oakton. Many do not speak of the experience fondly. What parents want and what kids value are not always the same. I bet you don't even ask your kids what they would prefer. Grown adults of parents like this have some interesting things to say about their parents.

DP, my kids prefer to eat candy for dinner, so I’m not quite sure I see your point.

I am sad for your kids that you would equate these two things.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are you from SLHS, Westfield, or are you from Chantilly. Which one of the school is better than Oakton?

One thing for sure is that your kids is going to KAA and you are upset to hear that KAA can not be better than Oakton.

I think you are expecting a KAA to be the only top tier school in west part of fcps. The only way KAA can be the top tier is to become a magnet school.

I was asked why people have a problem with the Oakton families pitch, and the issue is you sound like elitists who think that the other kids being moved to the new school are going to be beneath you.

You do realize that there are people with kids at SLHS who wouldn't want to be moved to Oakton, right? Different people value different things. SLHS has a strong community and lots of kids have had a great experience there. The families are not worried about the rating and there are plenty of kids going to strong colleges. There are even people who love IB. The SLHS families I know worried about being moved are concerned about the lack of programs in the first bunch of years but mainly feel like they are a part of a strong community. They know that will build over time but the genuinely love their school.

The difference is when they talk about their school, they don't sound like elitists who are hoping and praying that their kids are not moved from the school to a school that is beneath them. Oakton families that don't want to move sound like they are going to be punished by having to go to a HS with kids from Oak Hill, Floris, and Coates. Great Falls families have the same problem. They sound like snobs. The argument that your kids should be at a school that is a 30-40 minute bus drive when there is a school 10 minutes away is kind of ridiculous. And your logic for why you should stay there is that the other schools aren't as good and you don't want to go there.

If you can't understand why that sounds bad, then I don't know what to tell you.

People want what they feel is best for their kids and that may require a longer bus ride.

Building resilience is awesome 👌

Way to grossly misuse the term resilience. Maybe talk to some people who grew up taking a long bus ride to Oakton. Many do not speak of the experience fondly. What parents want and what kids value are not always the same. I bet you don't even ask your kids what they would prefer. Grown adults of parents like this have some interesting things to say about their parents.

DP, my kids prefer to eat candy for dinner, so I’m not quite sure I see your point.

I am sad for your kids that you would equate these two things.

Someone failed the marshmallow test, perhaps?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are you from SLHS, Westfield, or are you from Chantilly. Which one of the school is better than Oakton?

One thing for sure is that your kids is going to KAA and you are upset to hear that KAA can not be better than Oakton.

I think you are expecting a KAA to be the only top tier school in west part of fcps. The only way KAA can be the top tier is to become a magnet school.

I was asked why people have a problem with the Oakton families pitch, and the issue is you sound like elitists who think that the other kids being moved to the new school are going to be beneath you.

You do realize that there are people with kids at SLHS who wouldn't want to be moved to Oakton, right? Different people value different things. SLHS has a strong community and lots of kids have had a great experience there. The families are not worried about the rating and there are plenty of kids going to strong colleges. There are even people who love IB. The SLHS families I know worried about being moved are concerned about the lack of programs in the first bunch of years but mainly feel like they are a part of a strong community. They know that will build over time but the genuinely love their school.

The difference is when they talk about their school, they don't sound like elitists who are hoping and praying that their kids are not moved from the school to a school that is beneath them. Oakton families that don't want to move sound like they are going to be punished by having to go to a HS with kids from Oak Hill, Floris, and Coates. Great Falls families have the same problem. They sound like snobs. The argument that your kids should be at a school that is a 30-40 minute bus drive when there is a school 10 minutes away is kind of ridiculous. And your logic for why you should stay there is that the other schools aren't as good and you don't want to go there.

If you can't understand why that sounds bad, then I don't know what to tell you.

Great Falls families sound like snobs because they don’t want their kids to go to Herndon High which had a student recently murdered in a drive-by after receiving death threats at Herndon High from fellow students?

Call me crazy, but that doesn’t sound snobby to me. Sounds like great falls families want their kids to be safe from violence.

Franklin Farm families and neighborhoos families that want to leave Oakton:

Please also reconsider what is best for your kids: convenience for adults. Vs. Safety for kids

Sigh, if they want to move our kids around like pawns without regard to their mental health, they’ll at least have to get a handle on the safety issues that are a real concern at many of the high schools.

It seems like there is so much grandfathering/phasing and opting in/out going on that the "move our kids around like pawns" argument falls flat anymore. Seems like most changes are reassignments of where kids will go in the future at this point. And seriously, what magic place do you come from where no schools change boundaries ever? How do you expect adjustments to ever be made without moving anyone?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are you from SLHS, Westfield, or are you from Chantilly. Which one of the school is better than Oakton?

One thing for sure is that your kids is going to KAA and you are upset to hear that KAA can not be better than Oakton.

I think you are expecting a KAA to be the only top tier school in west part of fcps. The only way KAA can be the top tier is to become a magnet school.

I was asked why people have a problem with the Oakton families pitch, and the issue is you sound like elitists who think that the other kids being moved to the new school are going to be beneath you.

You do realize that there are people with kids at SLHS who wouldn't want to be moved to Oakton, right? Different people value different things. SLHS has a strong community and lots of kids have had a great experience there. The families are not worried about the rating and there are plenty of kids going to strong colleges. There are even people who love IB. The SLHS families I know worried about being moved are concerned about the lack of programs in the first bunch of years but mainly feel like they are a part of a strong community. They know that will build over time but the genuinely love their school.

The difference is when they talk about their school, they don't sound like elitists who are hoping and praying that their kids are not moved from the school to a school that is beneath them. Oakton families that don't want to move sound like they are going to be punished by having to go to a HS with kids from Oak Hill, Floris, and Coates. Great Falls families have the same problem. They sound like snobs. The argument that your kids should be at a school that is a 30-40 minute bus drive when there is a school 10 minutes away is kind of ridiculous. And your logic for why you should stay there is that the other schools aren't as good and you don't want to go there.

If you can't understand why that sounds bad, then I don't know what to tell you.

Great Falls families sound like snobs because they don’t want their kids to go to Herndon High which had a student recently murdered in a drive-by after receiving death threats at Herndon High from fellow students?

Call me crazy, but that doesn’t sound snobby to me. Sounds like great falls families want their kids to be safe from violence.

Franklin Farm families and neighborhoos families that want to leave Oakton:

Please also reconsider what is best for your kids: convenience for adults. Vs. Safety for kids

Sigh, if they want to move our kids around like pawns without regard to their mental health, they’ll at least have to get a handle on the safety issues that are a real concern at many of the high schools.

It seems like there is so much grandfathering/phasing and opting in/out going on that the "move our kids around like pawns" argument falls flat anymore. Seems like most changes are reassignments of where kids will go in the future at this point. And seriously, what magic place do you come from where no schools change boundaries ever? How do you expect adjustments to ever be made without moving anyone?

Please volunteer your kid to go to a school with recent death threats and a drive-by. We’ll pass, thank you, even if it’ll only be in the future that kids will be forced to go there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are you from SLHS, Westfield, or are you from Chantilly. Which one of the school is better than Oakton?

One thing for sure is that your kids is going to KAA and you are upset to hear that KAA can not be better than Oakton.

I think you are expecting a KAA to be the only top tier school in west part of fcps. The only way KAA can be the top tier is to become a magnet school.

I was asked why people have a problem with the Oakton families pitch, and the issue is you sound like elitists who think that the other kids being moved to the new school are going to be beneath you.

You do realize that there are people with kids at SLHS who wouldn't want to be moved to Oakton, right? Different people value different things. SLHS has a strong community and lots of kids have had a great experience there. The families are not worried about the rating and there are plenty of kids going to strong colleges. There are even people who love IB. The SLHS families I know worried about being moved are concerned about the lack of programs in the first bunch of years but mainly feel like they are a part of a strong community. They know that will build over time but the genuinely love their school.

The difference is when they talk about their school, they don't sound like elitists who are hoping and praying that their kids are not moved from the school to a school that is beneath them. Oakton families that don't want to move sound like they are going to be punished by having to go to a HS with kids from Oak Hill, Floris, and Coates. Great Falls families have the same problem. They sound like snobs. The argument that your kids should be at a school that is a 30-40 minute bus drive when there is a school 10 minutes away is kind of ridiculous. And your logic for why you should stay there is that the other schools aren't as good and you don't want to go there.

If you can't understand why that sounds bad, then I don't know what to tell you.

People want what they feel is best for their kids and that may require a longer bus ride.

Building resilience is awesome 👌

Way to grossly misuse the term resilience. Maybe talk to some people who grew up taking a long bus ride to Oakton. Many do not speak of the experience fondly. What parents want and what kids value are not always the same. I bet you don't even ask your kids what they would prefer. Grown adults of parents like this have some interesting things to say about their parents.

DP, my kids prefer to eat candy for dinner, so I’m not quite sure I see your point.

I am sad for your kids that you would equate these two things.

Someone failed the marshmallow test, perhaps?

Oh the irony that you are mentioning that test. I might know a thing or two about it. Vastly more than you. A long bus ride every day that cuts into a child's sleep, family, and homework time is in no way some sort of exercise in delayed gratification predicting later executive functioning skills.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are you from SLHS, Westfield, or are you from Chantilly. Which one of the school is better than Oakton?

One thing for sure is that your kids is going to KAA and you are upset to hear that KAA can not be better than Oakton.

I think you are expecting a KAA to be the only top tier school in west part of fcps. The only way KAA can be the top tier is to become a magnet school.

I was asked why people have a problem with the Oakton families pitch, and the issue is you sound like elitists who think that the other kids being moved to the new school are going to be beneath you.

You do realize that there are people with kids at SLHS who wouldn't want to be moved to Oakton, right? Different people value different things. SLHS has a strong community and lots of kids have had a great experience there. The families are not worried about the rating and there are plenty of kids going to strong colleges. There are even people who love IB. The SLHS families I know worried about being moved are concerned about the lack of programs in the first bunch of years but mainly feel like they are a part of a strong community. They know that will build over time but the genuinely love their school.

The difference is when they talk about their school, they don't sound like elitists who are hoping and praying that their kids are not moved from the school to a school that is beneath them. Oakton families that don't want to move sound like they are going to be punished by having to go to a HS with kids from Oak Hill, Floris, and Coates. Great Falls families have the same problem. They sound like snobs. The argument that your kids should be at a school that is a 30-40 minute bus drive when there is a school 10 minutes away is kind of ridiculous. And your logic for why you should stay there is that the other schools aren't as good and you don't want to go there.

If you can't understand why that sounds bad, then I don't know what to tell you.

People want what they feel is best for their kids and that may require a longer bus ride.

Building resilience is awesome 👌

Way to grossly misuse the term resilience. Maybe talk to some people who grew up taking a long bus ride to Oakton. Many do not speak of the experience fondly. What parents want and what kids value are not always the same. I bet you don't even ask your kids what they would prefer. Grown adults of parents like this have some interesting things to say about their parents.

DP, my kids prefer to eat candy for dinner, so I’m not quite sure I see your point.

I am sad for your kids that you would equate these two things.

Someone failed the marshmallow test, perhaps?

Oh the irony that you are mentioning that test. I might know a thing or two about it. Vastly more than you. A long bus ride every day that cuts into a child's sleep, family, and homework time is in no way some sort of exercise in delayed gratification predicting later executive functioning skills.

DP, were you the author of the middle eastern college student transportation study that FCPS shared with BRAC at its first meeting? You know, the one that directly contradicted the premise that long bus rides led to worse outcomes?

You can’t honestly sit there with a straight face and claim that a child’s life will be worse with a longer bus ride then pretend that switching schools and communities will have no effect whatsoever on the kids’ mental health.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are you from SLHS, Westfield, or are you from Chantilly. Which one of the school is better than Oakton?

One thing for sure is that your kids is going to KAA and you are upset to hear that KAA can not be better than Oakton.

I think you are expecting a KAA to be the only top tier school in west part of fcps. The only way KAA can be the top tier is to become a magnet school.

I was asked why people have a problem with the Oakton families pitch, and the issue is you sound like elitists who think that the other kids being moved to the new school are going to be beneath you.

You do realize that there are people with kids at SLHS who wouldn't want to be moved to Oakton, right? Different people value different things. SLHS has a strong community and lots of kids have had a great experience there. The families are not worried about the rating and there are plenty of kids going to strong colleges. There are even people who love IB. The SLHS families I know worried about being moved are concerned about the lack of programs in the first bunch of years but mainly feel like they are a part of a strong community. They know that will build over time but the genuinely love their school.

The difference is when they talk about their school, they don't sound like elitists who are hoping and praying that their kids are not moved from the school to a school that is beneath them. Oakton families that don't want to move sound like they are going to be punished by having to go to a HS with kids from Oak Hill, Floris, and Coates. Great Falls families have the same problem. They sound like snobs. The argument that your kids should be at a school that is a 30-40 minute bus drive when there is a school 10 minutes away is kind of ridiculous. And your logic for why you should stay there is that the other schools aren't as good and you don't want to go there.

If you can't understand why that sounds bad, then I don't know what to tell you.

Great Falls families sound like snobs because they don’t want their kids to go to Herndon High which had a student recently murdered in a drive-by after receiving death threats at Herndon High from fellow students?

Call me crazy, but that doesn’t sound snobby to me. Sounds like great falls families want their kids to be safe from violence.

Franklin Farm families and neighborhoos families that want to leave Oakton:

Please also reconsider what is best for your kids: convenience for adults. Vs. Safety for kids

Sigh, if they want to move our kids around like pawns without regard to their mental health, they’ll at least have to get a handle on the safety issues that are a real concern at many of the high schools.

It seems like there is so much grandfathering/phasing and opting in/out going on that the "move our kids around like pawns" argument falls flat anymore. Seems like most changes are reassignments of where kids will go in the future at this point. And seriously, what magic place do you come from where no schools change boundaries ever? How do you expect adjustments to ever be made without moving anyone?

Please volunteer your kid to go to a school with recent death threats and a drive-by. We’ll pass, thank you, even if it’ll only be in the future that kids will be forced to go there.

Good thing for you that you have at least 5 years until the next review to move away from such a dangerous place so you won't be assigned to go to school there.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are you from SLHS, Westfield, or are you from Chantilly. Which one of the school is better than Oakton?

One thing for sure is that your kids is going to KAA and you are upset to hear that KAA can not be better than Oakton.

I think you are expecting a KAA to be the only top tier school in west part of fcps. The only way KAA can be the top tier is to become a magnet school.

I was asked why people have a problem with the Oakton families pitch, and the issue is you sound like elitists who think that the other kids being moved to the new school are going to be beneath you.

You do realize that there are people with kids at SLHS who wouldn't want to be moved to Oakton, right? Different people value different things. SLHS has a strong community and lots of kids have had a great experience there. The families are not worried about the rating and there are plenty of kids going to strong colleges. There are even people who love IB. The SLHS families I know worried about being moved are concerned about the lack of programs in the first bunch of years but mainly feel like they are a part of a strong community. They know that will build over time but the genuinely love their school.

The difference is when they talk about their school, they don't sound like elitists who are hoping and praying that their kids are not moved from the school to a school that is beneath them. Oakton families that don't want to move sound like they are going to be punished by having to go to a HS with kids from Oak Hill, Floris, and Coates. Great Falls families have the same problem. They sound like snobs. The argument that your kids should be at a school that is a 30-40 minute bus drive when there is a school 10 minutes away is kind of ridiculous. And your logic for why you should stay there is that the other schools aren't as good and you don't want to go there.

If you can't understand why that sounds bad, then I don't know what to tell you.

People want what they feel is best for their kids and that may require a longer bus ride.

Building resilience is awesome 👌

Way to grossly misuse the term resilience. Maybe talk to some people who grew up taking a long bus ride to Oakton. Many do not speak of the experience fondly. What parents want and what kids value are not always the same. I bet you don't even ask your kids what they would prefer. Grown adults of parents like this have some interesting things to say about their parents.

DP, my kids prefer to eat candy for dinner, so I’m not quite sure I see your point.

I am sad for your kids that you would equate these two things.

Someone failed the marshmallow test, perhaps?

Oh the irony that you are mentioning that test. I might know a thing or two about it. Vastly more than you. A long bus ride every day that cuts into a child's sleep, family, and homework time is in no way some sort of exercise in delayed gratification predicting later executive functioning skills.

DP, were you the author of the middle eastern college student transportation study that FCPS shared with BRAC at its first meeting? You know, the one that directly contradicted the premise that long bus rides led to worse outcomes?

You can’t honestly sit there with a straight face and claim that a child’s life will be worse with a longer bus ride then pretend that switching schools and communities will have no effect whatsoever on the kids’ mental health.

I have no idea what you are talking about, but it is generally not a good idea to rely on a single study to make any conclusions. Sounds like that study wasn't the same population anyway, which limits generalizability to high schoolers and younger. Regarding your second point, it doesn't sound like anyone will have to switch schools to go to Western HS. If the school is close to home, and you attend it with elementary school peers, it's by definition in your community. You can't decide Waples Mill is your community but Oak Hill is not when you live right in between the two and know darn well your kids do activities with kids from both schools.

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Anonymous wrote:Serious question…why do people with kids already in Oakton HS care?

I don't have any high schoolers but perhaps property value concerns?

It’s impossible to account for siblings forever - I had a kid in elementary when others were in college. If they follow through with the AI sub school (robotics, computer vision, machine learning) Western will be THE coveted school, full stop. God knows leaving that in FCPS hands is risky but if it happens it will be national news. The demographics are always mixed in this area - we have lots of immigrant families - by the same token there are lots of parents who are serious about academics. Personally I’d like to see Fox Mill in there since they send the kids to Carson with the Oak Hill AAP kids - it’s be nice to keep them together. I also feel bad for Emerald Chase who is at Oak Hill then cast off elsewhere. The neighborhood is often visited by Chantilly Highlands kids via the woods and basketball courts. That said if I were in charge I’d draw a demographic radius circle around neighborhoods and that is who would be going. Forget agendas- public high school are intended to be primarily proximity. The lobbying to stay or go is next level. We go in all scenarios so Let’s go Western! Stop spending time on personal agendas and property value woes and get the AI and AE programs going.

Thank you. Too many people forgetting this. It's one thing to argue that you don't want your kids attending a school that won't have access to the same programming as others while it's still very new. It's another thing to say your neighborhood should always get to be zoned for a school far away when several others are closer, just because you like that school better.

That is part of the wacky county model we have down south.

If you go to the north east, schools are town based so people just move to whatever town's high schools they want to go to.

And there are towns with great schools, because of a wealthier population, and towns with poor schools, because of an impoverished population. And there are parents looking for the least expensive house or apartment that gets them into the town with the better school because it is important to them. Kind of like parents moving into the pyramids that they want their kids to attend. The people most likely affected by the boundary changes are the people who bought at the edges of the pyramid they wanted to attend because that is where the houses were more affordable. It is the fight over being moved from Langley to Herndon or WSHS to Lewis.

The issue here is that many people at Oakton, SLHS, Chantilly, Westfield, and Centerville are not sure what the new school is going to be like because it is new, that causes concern for folks. It makes sense.

That's not quite right. The issue is that the new school is going to be perceived as comparable to something similar to Fairfax HS and a tad shy of Chantilly HS, because of the lower-income kids from Coates and McNair, and that's not good enough for some Oakton HS parents.

That will be the case when Western opens, and it will remain the case when Western is 100% full and operating on all cylinders. People would be happy if it it had the standing of Carson, but it won't because Carson is pumped up by all the AAP kids from Franklin, and without those AAP kids Carson will be an above-average school but not what it's been for the past several decades.

People from Floris and Oak Hill - the higher-income areas most likely to attend Western - find that grating because, while they can understand why Langley parents might chafe at moving to Herndon, they think it's weird that parents now at Oakton would subject themselves and their kids to longer trips to school when they might have a much closer and perfectly acceptable option closer to their homes. People from Fox Mill find it annoying as well, but some are happy that some of the Oakton parents are working overtime to avoid Western because they'd prefer a new AP school for their kids over South Lakes.

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Anonymous wrote:Are you from SLHS, Westfield, or are you from Chantilly. Which one of the school is better than Oakton?

One thing for sure is that your kids is going to KAA and you are upset to hear that KAA can not be better than Oakton.

I think you are expecting a KAA to be the only top tier school in west part of fcps. The only way KAA can be the top tier is to become a magnet school.

I was asked why people have a problem with the Oakton families pitch, and the issue is you sound like elitists who think that the other kids being moved to the new school are going to be beneath you.

You do realize that there are people with kids at SLHS who wouldn't want to be moved to Oakton, right? Different people value different things. SLHS has a strong community and lots of kids have had a great experience there. The families are not worried about the rating and there are plenty of kids going to strong colleges. There are even people who love IB. The SLHS families I know worried about being moved are concerned about the lack of programs in the first bunch of years but mainly feel like they are a part of a strong community. They know that will build over time but the genuinely love their school.

The difference is when they talk about their school, they don't sound like elitists who are hoping and praying that their kids are not moved from the school to a school that is beneath them. Oakton families that don't want to move sound like they are going to be punished by having to go to a HS with kids from Oak Hill, Floris, and Coates. Great Falls families have the same problem. They sound like snobs. The argument that your kids should be at a school that is a 30-40 minute bus drive when there is a school 10 minutes away is kind of ridiculous. And your logic for why you should stay there is that the other schools aren't as good and you don't want to go there.

If you can't understand why that sounds bad, then I don't know what to tell you.

Great Falls families sound like snobs because they don’t want their kids to go to Herndon High which had a student recently murdered in a drive-by after receiving death threats at Herndon High from fellow students?

Call me crazy, but that doesn’t sound snobby to me. Sounds like great falls families want their kids to be safe from violence.

Franklin Farm families and neighborhoos families that want to leave Oakton:

Please also reconsider what is best for your kids: convenience for adults. Vs. Safety for kids

Sigh, if they want to move our kids around like pawns without regard to their mental health, they’ll at least have to get a handle on the safety issues that are a real concern at many of the high schools.

It seems like there is so much grandfathering/phasing and opting in/out going on that the "move our kids around like pawns" argument falls flat anymore. Seems like most changes are reassignments of where kids will go in the future at this point. And seriously, what magic place do you come from where no schools change boundaries ever? How do you expect adjustments to ever be made without moving anyone?

Please volunteer your kid to go to a school with recent death threats and a drive-by. We’ll pass, thank you, even if it’ll only be in the future that kids will be forced to go there.

The drive by didn’t occur at the school you idiot.

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I get why some Crossfield parents want to stay at Oakton despite the long commute.

I also get why some other Crossfield parents who want to move are upset at them as they'd rather move to KAA and cut the long commute.

What I don’t understand is why some non Crossfield parents are upset at the Crossfield parents who fight to stay.

Is it because of some “equity” issue? Or is it because their kids are going to KAA and they want to make sure wealthy Crossfield kids join them?

Somebody mentioned tax dollars used for longer bus rides, but that just seems like a really weak reason.

I would venture to say that it's because there are a lot of Carson parents who've been around Crossfield and Navy parents for years. Their kids eventually won't have a choice - Western will be their assigned high school - yet the Crossfield and Navy parents are suggesting the future base schools for those kids isn't "good enough." It just feeds into the perception that the Crossfield and Navy parents always acted superior to everyone else at any school their kids attended.