Walz vs. Vance: VP Debate Oct 1 2024

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Anonymous wrote:Only vance is getting fact checked from the mods. Yet another "fair" debate. I dont care what side you're on no one should support this crap. Its not ok. Again dont care who you vote for this is unacceptable.

what lies has walz told that need to be fact checked?

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Anonymous wrote:Vance can't even say Trump lost. Wow.

It's a yes/no question and he filibustered. Sad!

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Anonymous wrote:The slickest thing the pro-immigration globalist have done is to convince people that being against immigration is "racism".

America is a nation of immigrants. So yeah, opposing it is racist.

Do try to keep up.

Your first two sentences do not go together, so the "so" does not make sense.

America is not a nation of immigrants. Immigrants have decided to come to an established nation. This is a nuance but important. Not all Americans are descendant from immigrants. Does our history not matter?[/quote

I'm not sure what you consider history. Before immigration from Europe, the Americas were many nations, not one established nation, and everyone else is either a descendant of people who came here in the last 532 years or came more recently than that.

Okay, what about all the people who emigrated to the US after that, e.g., the Ellis Island masses of immigrants? Were they not immigrants who became citizens regardless of who was here before that? There were huge waves of immigration to the US (as there still is) which caused problems and who were discriminated against yet who assimilated.

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Anonymous wrote:Sorry, I'm leftist, and despise Trump. But Vance is doing a great (lying) job tonight. He's very smooth, very slick and photogenic on TV. People won't realize exactly how badly he lied. They just won't.

Sorry, Vance comes across as slick as in slimy and unauthentic. And angry underneath the surface. Scary.

Vance is slimy but I have a terrible bias and I know that there are plenty of Republicans who want to latch onto anything that seems reasonable about Trump. Vance is giving them that opening tonight by lying through his teeth and talking about how much he loves his human wife.

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Anonymous wrote:The slickest thing the pro-immigration globalist have done is to convince people that being against immigration is "racism".

America is a nation of immigrants. So yeah, opposing it is racist.

Do try to keep up.

Your first two sentences do not go together, so the "so" does not make sense.

America is not a nation of immigrants. Immigrants have decided to come to an established nation. This is a nuance but important. Not all Americans are descendant from immigrants. Does our history not matter?[/quote

I'm not sure what you consider history. Before immigration from Europe, the Americas were many nations, not one established nation, and everyone else is either a descendant of people who came here in the last 532 years or came more recently than that.

I am not talking about the land. I am talking about the nation. Before the establishment of the United States of America, the USA did not exist. If you limit the discussion to land, Arizona is not really part of the U.S. because it wasn't part of the country in the 1780s.

So? It is now, so dry up about it.

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All Vance is doing is trying to gear up for '28. Eyeliner boy doesn't give shit about that orangehead.

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Walz wins with the ultimate zinger. that is why Pence isn't on this stage.

He wins wins wins.

Bam.

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I love how transparent the mods are only asking Vance about trump bs nothing to walk about harris. It's laughable how one sided this debate is.

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Anonymous wrote:The slickest thing the pro-immigration globalist have done is to convince people that being against immigration is "racism".

America is a nation of immigrants. So yeah, opposing it is racist.

Do try to keep up.

Your first two sentences do not go together, so the "so" does not make sense.

America is not a nation of immigrants. Immigrants have decided to come to an established nation. This is a nuance but important. Not all Americans are descendant from immigrants. Does our history not matter?

Holy cow.

You want to send the Europeans back to Europe, Chief Big Horse?
Sure, do it.

A set of Europeans (mostly if not all Englishmen) established the nation. Oh and they brought over some in the hullls of ships to build the economy. None of the descendants of these two groups are immigrant. You can't be an immigrant in a country you literally built from scratch on paper and with your hands.

I think this poster wants to send back the Irish, Italians, Eastern Europeans, Japanese, etc etc….

No, just understand that there is a history before mass immigration and many of us do not feel any connection to the concept of "nation of immigrants".

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Anonymous wrote:The slickest thing the pro-immigration globalist have done is to convince people that being against immigration is "racism".

America is a nation of immigrants. So yeah, opposing it is racist.

Do try to keep up.

Your first two sentences do not go together, so the "so" does not make sense.

America is not a nation of immigrants. Immigrants have decided to come to an established nation. This is a nuance but important. Not all Americans are descendant from immigrants. Does our history not matter?

You're Native American? Of course your history matters.

Those of us who are not Native American are descendants of immigrants.

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Anonymous wrote:Wow, Vance closing on "Elect me so America is safe for the worst people saying the worst things".

Nope.

I do remember people being kicked off Facebook for saying Covid came from a lab.

Then 3 years later Fauci admits it probably did and the govt was wrong claiming it came from a market.

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I love that on preserving democracy Walz said I think you can see here pointing to himself “who’s gonna honor democracy” then ponying toward Vance and saying and “who’s gonna honor Donald Trump?”

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Anonymous wrote:Vance can't even say Trump lost. Wow.

It's a yes/no question and he filibustered. Sad!

I wish Walz had put an even bigger emphasis on that. “You heard it, folks, Senator Vance can’t admit who won the election even now.”

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Anonymous wrote:Let's get this right. Settlers came to America and built something. Immigrants came to something that was already built.

Invaders came to America.

There was already something it here.

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Anonymous wrote:Let's get this right. Settlers came to America and built something. Immigrants came to something that was already built.

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