FCPS Boundary Review Updates

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I found this article to be helpful https://www.ffxnow.com/2025/06/16/fcps-surprises-with-purchase-of-discontinuing-herndon-private-school/?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR40IEEW6qtDtnYPEmLUIxeui85A-tpLpeP9Nz2xXcRCkv9lwMrmsa4w_0Ab-g_aem_Oyu5dxcm5Hn4xYndvoKmNA

Also I had no idea there were two great falls citizens groups and that the one who wrote this letter was ousted for not being transparent about financial information. Y’all have left that part out!!

Ha, you get caught red-handed lying and then mischaracterize an unrelated issue. What a buffoon.

Can you explain why you lied about GF being against the school? Does your ex live happily in the area?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I found this article to be helpful https://www.ffxnow.com/2025/06/16/fcps-surprises-with-purchase-of-discontinuing-herndon-private-school/?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR40IEEW6qtDtnYPEmLUIxeui85A-tpLpeP9Nz2xXcRCkv9lwMrmsa4w_0Ab-g_aem_Oyu5dxcm5Hn4xYndvoKmNA

Also I had no idea there were two great falls citizens groups and that the one who wrote this letter was ousted for not being transparent about financial information. Y’all have left that part out!!

Ha, you get caught red-handed lying and then mischaracterize an unrelated issue. What a buffoon.

Can you explain why you lied about GF being against the school? Does your ex live happily in the area?

Wow. You do know that there are likely many posters on here?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I found this article to be helpful https://www.ffxnow.com/2025/06/16/fcps-surprises-with-purchase-of-discontinuing-herndon-private-school/?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR40IEEW6qtDtnYPEmLUIxeui85A-tpLpeP9Nz2xXcRCkv9lwMrmsa4w_0Ab-g_aem_Oyu5dxcm5Hn4xYndvoKmNA

Also I had no idea there were two great falls citizens groups and that the one who wrote this letter was ousted for not being transparent about financial information. Y’all have left that part out!!

Ha, you get caught red-handed lying and then mischaracterize an unrelated issue. What a buffoon.

Can you explain why you lied about GF being against the school? Does your ex live happily in the area?

What? That was the first post I’ve made about great falls but reading the post linked in that Fairfax now post helped me to understand why they would even issue a press release - it sounds like a few people were very much opposed to the boundary study but the rest of the group wasn’t so they discovered the lack of financial transparency from these people and used it to kick them out. Now those people who got kicked out are complaining about the lack of financial transparency from FCPS. I find that interesting.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Just as an fyi that Nextdoor post was made by 2 individuals. It doesn’t represent Langleys view or great fall’s view as a whole. I think what everyone wants, Langley or not, is transparency. This school may be a great deal. But to purchase it when nothing but 25 million was applied for a western school means another school isn’t getting their renovation or expansion. Centreville? Also they were in a big deficit for the operating budget so how are they staffing a whole new school? There has been no mention of this sale at any BRAC meeting. Or boundary review meeting.

This site is adjacent to the community that needs it. The likelihood of finding a better site--or anything close to it is very low.
This requires fast action. The school only announced its closure in February.

Please do not begrudge your neighbors the right to have a school that suits the needs of the community because you do not want to move. The poster claimed "transparency" but never mentioned that she lived on the Herndon side of Rte 7--very near Herndon High.

I'm glad for Langley people to stay put--but be honest about it. This is not about transparency. While I would also desire transparency, it would be foolish to pass this up. They've promised this school for years.

Here is the post from Nextdoor:

"I am so disheartened by this decision by FCPS. I have no way to weigh in on the actual decision to purchase this school because they made no effort to announce their intent (not even in the agenda for the meeting or the vote was held) or give enough details to understand the decision. I have no information about how they are going to afford the $150 million they are approving to spend on this project. I have no way of understanding how they are going to staff such a school when they were not even able to get the full 7% raise for the staff they have this year and have struggled to fully staff the schools we have. They continue to misunderstand my and those that think like myself's upset as not liking the decision. My problem however is that FCPS continues to fail to provide meaningful community engagement and transparency when making major decisions that impact our community. They frequently state they're transparent and engage with the community, but but as this post mentions they created the BRAC to represent the community and provide scenarios for boundary changes, but so far the BRAC is racing to catch up. When speaking to members of the BRAC, they don't know what their exact role is as so far they have just been presented scenarios and given minimal ability to evaluate them or give feedback. We were told that the recent community meetings the BRAC would have more time in June to do so. We will have to see what this approved purchase does to those scenarios. But it certainly brings into question any feedback the community was asked to give when they had no idea this was even a possibility."

So the poster claiming that GF is against the school based on this post is just a straight up liar.

Zero credibility for the Great Falls-hater and her agenda. Laid bare for all to see.

All I see is one Forestville mama who lives right on the border of the Herndon boundary trying her best on Nextdoor to derail anything that might see her neighborhood end up at Herndon in the future. While I don't blame her, I don't blame anyone else for calling her out on her altruistic motive. Protecting her property value from potential future impacts (even though Langley isn't even overcrowded and isn't projected to have anyone moved) at the expense of so many others is a little disgusting.

Tell us that your reading comprehension skills are abysmal without telling us that they are.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They could change ES boundaries and do that without grandfathering, since people won’t feel as strongly about that, and say they are pausing MS and HS boundary changes until they are ready to open the new HS out near Carson. That would maximize the credit they get to take from buying the KAA and reduce angst over boundary changes.

If they give one part of the county a new HS no one was expecting and give everyone else boundary changes few want, they are jeopardizing their political futures.

There might be some instances where this is viable, but in many cases the ES changes are happening across HS pyramid lines, such that if you make ES boundary changes without corresponding MS/HS changes, you actually end up exacerbating the split feeder issue rather than mitigating it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They could change ES boundaries and do that without grandfathering, since people won’t feel as strongly about that, and say they are pausing MS and HS boundary changes until they are ready to open the new HS out near Carson. That would maximize the credit they get to take from buying the KAA and reduce angst over boundary changes.

If they give one part of the county a new HS no one was expecting and give everyone else boundary changes few want, they are jeopardizing their political futures.

This makes sense.

By the way, on Nextdoor, there is a concerted effort by Great Falls/Langley parents to stop the KAA purchase.

I have been sympathetic to these Langley families in the past, because I agree with having kids stay where they are. I, too, wanted my neighborhood to stay put. But THRU was picking my neighborhood to go to a journey comparable to the Langley one. Except, we like our nearby school.

Carson is split between Oakton, South Lakes, and Westfield. The kids that go to Westfield are separated from it by commercial and industrial developments. This is not conducive to building a "community."
Oakton is a ridiculous commute for Carson students.

The KAA site would have a "community" around it which is a good thing. The boundary would easily be reasonable and compact--not gerrymandered. It would alleviate "overcrowding" at Chantilly which is cited frequently by the SB members. It would eliminate an extremely long and hard commute for many students.

I was disturbed when the site was given to KAA years ago with no community input. I do believe that the BOS put political pressure on them because of the protest by the Burke area. Here is a chance to make it right.

Of course the Great Falls families are behind an effort to stop the purchase. Anything that might negatively impact their kids is bad even if it 1) makes sense and 2) is good for other kids. God forbid that something happens that might decrease the student numbers at Herndon and lead to kids being shifted to Herndon from Langley. Far better to keep a massive split feeder out of Carson and shift kids all over the place between SLHS, Westfield, Oakton, Chantilly, Centerville, and Herndon. All that matters is that the kids at Langley stay put.

DP. You are truly ignorant if this is what your narrative is. I've seen the NextDoor discussion and it has NOTHING to do with moving kids around at all. It's about the lack of transparency in making this purchase with zero community input. I think it's a great purchase and makes perfect sense, but I can still understand the point being made about lack of transparency.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Nuance is hard for feeble minds, but being critical of a process is different than being against the school.

Show us the post that has got you riled up, or are you just a neighbor hater?

No. I've thought the county wide boundary move was ridiculous from the beginning.

But, I can also see that getting a very good purchase that would solve a lot of issues is wise. Even the School Board, like a broken clock, can sometimes do the right thing.

And, FWIW, the person raising this issue on Nextdoor lives very close to Herndon High--on the Herndon side of Rte 7.

And, yes, I live near the KAA site. But, it is an opportunity that is likely now or never. Remember, they've told us that they couldn't find a good site for a Western High School. This is a good site. It is adjacent to the communities that have the need. It provides community, proximity, and solves a need frequently expressed by the School Board: relief for Chantilly.

The Great Falls people may have a point about the process, but there is not time to discuss it further.

And, again, I would be happy for them to stay put. But, to keep another neighborhood for having what it has needed for a long time is just sour grapes.

Okay, but questioning the process is different than advocating against the school, and we’ve seen nothing that gf residents are against the school.

The gf-hater is just making controversies up to suit her anti-Langley agenda.

+100
It's clearly time to start reporting the poster who makes up BS about the Langley community because she didn't get her way in the boundary decisions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Just as an fyi that Nextdoor post was made by 2 individuals. It doesn’t represent Langleys view or great fall’s view as a whole. I think what everyone wants, Langley or not, is transparency. This school may be a great deal. But to purchase it when nothing but 25 million was applied for a western school means another school isn’t getting their renovation or expansion. Centreville? Also they were in a big deficit for the operating budget so how are they staffing a whole new school? There has been no mention of this sale at any BRAC meeting. Or boundary review meeting.

This site is adjacent to the community that needs it. The likelihood of finding a better site--or anything close to it is very low.
This requires fast action. The school only announced its closure in February.

Please do not begrudge your neighbors the right to have a school that suits the needs of the community because you do not want to move. The poster claimed "transparency" but never mentioned that she lived on the Herndon side of Rte 7--very near Herndon High.

I'm glad for Langley people to stay put--but be honest about it. This is not about transparency. While I would also desire transparency, it would be foolish to pass this up. They've promised this school for years.

Here is the post from Nextdoor:

"I am so disheartened by this decision by FCPS. I have no way to weigh in on the actual decision to purchase this school because they made no effort to announce their intent (not even in the agenda for the meeting or the vote was held) or give enough details to understand the decision. I have no information about how they are going to afford the $150 million they are approving to spend on this project. I have no way of understanding how they are going to staff such a school when they were not even able to get the full 7% raise for the staff they have this year and have struggled to fully staff the schools we have. They continue to misunderstand my and those that think like myself's upset as not liking the decision. My problem however is that FCPS continues to fail to provide meaningful community engagement and transparency when making major decisions that impact our community. They frequently state they're transparent and engage with the community, but but as this post mentions they created the BRAC to represent the community and provide scenarios for boundary changes, but so far the BRAC is racing to catch up. When speaking to members of the BRAC, they don't know what their exact role is as so far they have just been presented scenarios and given minimal ability to evaluate them or give feedback. We were told that the recent community meetings the BRAC would have more time in June to do so. We will have to see what this approved purchase does to those scenarios. But it certainly brings into question any feedback the community was asked to give when they had no idea this was even a possibility."

So the poster claiming that GF is against the school based on this post is just a straight up liar.

Zero credibility for the Great Falls-hater and her agenda. Laid bare for all to see.

+1
And the quoted post from NextDoor made a good point about FCPS not even being able to give staff a full 7% raise - yet they're somehow able to afford this school. Again, I think the school purchase is a great idea and incredibly fortuitous. But it does beg the question - how are they affording it?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They could change ES boundaries and do that without grandfathering, since people won’t feel as strongly about that, and say they are pausing MS and HS boundary changes until they are ready to open the new HS out near Carson. That would maximize the credit they get to take from buying the KAA and reduce angst over boundary changes.

If they give one part of the county a new HS no one was expecting and give everyone else boundary changes few want, they are jeopardizing their political futures.

There might be some instances where this is viable, but in many cases the ES changes are happening across HS pyramid lines, such that if you make ES boundary changes without corresponding MS/HS changes, you actually end up exacerbating the split feeder issue rather than mitigating it.

In those situations, they presumably could decide not to change the ES boundaries.

It just strikes me as a really bad idea to change MS/HS boundaries until they’ve worked through all the implications of the KAA acquisition.

[Anonymous]

My small neighborhood's boundary rezone opposition at https://www.chantillykids.com

I hope FCPS will make the logical decision to pause and rethink Thru's rezone proposal due to the recent acquisition of KAA.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They could change ES boundaries and do that without grandfathering, since people won’t feel as strongly about that, and say they are pausing MS and HS boundary changes until they are ready to open the new HS out near Carson. That would maximize the credit they get to take from buying the KAA and reduce angst over boundary changes.

If they give one part of the county a new HS no one was expecting and give everyone else boundary changes few want, they are jeopardizing their political futures.

This makes sense.

By the way, on Nextdoor, there is a concerted effort by Great Falls/Langley parents to stop the KAA purchase.

I have been sympathetic to these Langley families in the past, because I agree with having kids stay where they are. I, too, wanted my neighborhood to stay put. But THRU was picking my neighborhood to go to a journey comparable to the Langley one. Except, we like our nearby school.

Carson is split between Oakton, South Lakes, and Westfield. The kids that go to Westfield are separated from it by commercial and industrial developments. This is not conducive to building a "community."
Oakton is a ridiculous commute for Carson students.

The KAA site would have a "community" around it which is a good thing. The boundary would easily be reasonable and compact--not gerrymandered. It would alleviate "overcrowding" at Chantilly which is cited frequently by the SB members. It would eliminate an extremely long and hard commute for many students.

I was disturbed when the site was given to KAA years ago with no community input. I do believe that the BOS put political pressure on them because of the protest by the Burke area. Here is a chance to make it right.

Of course the Great Falls families are behind an effort to stop the purchase. Anything that might negatively impact their kids is bad even if it 1) makes sense and 2) is good for other kids. God forbid that something happens that might decrease the student numbers at Herndon and lead to kids being shifted to Herndon from Langley. Far better to keep a massive split feeder out of Carson and shift kids all over the place between SLHS, Westfield, Oakton, Chantilly, Centerville, and Herndon. All that matters is that the kids at Langley stay put.

DP. You are truly ignorant if this is what your narrative is. I've seen the NextDoor discussion and it has NOTHING to do with moving kids around at all. It's about the lack of transparency in making this purchase with zero community input. I think it's a great purchase and makes perfect sense, but I can still understand the point being made about lack of transparency.

A week ago you had Thru proposals out there that would move kids out of Westfield, Chantilly, Centreville, and South Lakes and in many instances families weren’t happy.

Thru wasn’t proposing to move anyone out of Langley, but there were no people more willing to help others articulate their concerns with the processes being followed than the FairFACTS Matters and BRAC members from Langley.

Then when the SB announced the KAA purchase, that was all forgotten, and the people who stood to benefit from a new school attacked the same folks who’d been helping them because they continued to raise questions about some of FCPS’s less than transparent processes.

Don’t get played, people.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They could change ES boundaries and do that without grandfathering, since people won’t feel as strongly about that, and say they are pausing MS and HS boundary changes until they are ready to open the new HS out near Carson. That would maximize the credit they get to take from buying the KAA and reduce angst over boundary changes.

If they give one part of the county a new HS no one was expecting and give everyone else boundary changes few want, they are jeopardizing their political futures.

This makes sense.

By the way, on Nextdoor, there is a concerted effort by Great Falls/Langley parents to stop the KAA purchase.

I have been sympathetic to these Langley families in the past, because I agree with having kids stay where they are. I, too, wanted my neighborhood to stay put. But THRU was picking my neighborhood to go to a journey comparable to the Langley one. Except, we like our nearby school.

Carson is split between Oakton, South Lakes, and Westfield. The kids that go to Westfield are separated from it by commercial and industrial developments. This is not conducive to building a "community."
Oakton is a ridiculous commute for Carson students.

The KAA site would have a "community" around it which is a good thing. The boundary would easily be reasonable and compact--not gerrymandered. It would alleviate "overcrowding" at Chantilly which is cited frequently by the SB members. It would eliminate an extremely long and hard commute for many students.

I was disturbed when the site was given to KAA years ago with no community input. I do believe that the BOS put political pressure on them because of the protest by the Burke area. Here is a chance to make it right.

Of course the Great Falls families are behind an effort to stop the purchase. Anything that might negatively impact their kids is bad even if it 1) makes sense and 2) is good for other kids. God forbid that something happens that might decrease the student numbers at Herndon and lead to kids being shifted to Herndon from Langley. Far better to keep a massive split feeder out of Carson and shift kids all over the place between SLHS, Westfield, Oakton, Chantilly, Centerville, and Herndon. All that matters is that the kids at Langley stay put.

DP. You are truly ignorant if this is what your narrative is. I've seen the NextDoor discussion and it has NOTHING to do with moving kids around at all. It's about the lack of transparency in making this purchase with zero community input. I think it's a great purchase and makes perfect sense, but I can still understand the point being made about lack of transparency.

A week ago you had Thru proposals out there that would move kids out of Westfield, Chantilly, Centreville, and South Lakes and in many instances families weren’t happy.

Thru wasn’t proposing to move anyone out of Langley, but there were no people more willing to help others articulate their concerns with the processes being followed than the FairFACTS Matters and BRAC members from Langley.

Then when the SB announced the KAA purchase, that was all forgotten, and the people who stood to benefit from a new school attacked the same folks who’d been helping them because they continued to raise questions about some of FCPS’s less than transparent processes.

Don’t get played, people.

A little common sense goes a long way.

This school announced closure in February. BRAC was well underway. I have no love lost for the SB and Reid, but do you really think they should have said: "Good news! We hope to purchase the KAA facility for a new Western High School. So, we are going to stop BRAC."

What could go wrong with a statement like that? What could go wrong with showing your cards in a competitive process like this purchase?

Yes, I appreciate that the Great Falls people tried to stop the boundary process, but with the THRU proposals, they were the only ones untouched.
My neighborhood stands to be split with the THRU proposals and many of the students will be sent on a long, long haul away. So, I really don't see what they have done for us.

[Anonymous]

DP. I don’t buy for one second that Great Falls people are advocating on behalf of everyone in the county when it comes to boundary stuff. Please! Do you think we are all stupid? We know you just don’t want to be sent to Herndon and everything you do and say is with that goal on mind. Which is fine — we are all looking out for ourselves here. But enough with the fake indignation about your motives being attacked. Your fake concern for others in the county is super obvious. Great Falls people aren’t exactly known for being altruistic, LOL.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:DP. I don’t buy for one second that Great Falls people are advocating on behalf of everyone in the county when it comes to boundary stuff. Please! Do you think we are all stupid? We know you just don’t want to be sent to Herndon and everything you do and say is with that goal on mind. Which is fine — we are all looking out for ourselves here. But enough with the fake indignation about your motives being attacked. Your fake concern for others in the county is super obvious. Great Falls people aren’t exactly known for being altruistic, LOL.

Actually, I’ve found them to be incredibly great. It’s people who want to divide their neighbors who are truly repugnant. Got a mirror nearby?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They could change ES boundaries and do that without grandfathering, since people won’t feel as strongly about that, and say they are pausing MS and HS boundary changes until they are ready to open the new HS out near Carson. That would maximize the credit they get to take from buying the KAA and reduce angst over boundary changes.

If they give one part of the county a new HS no one was expecting and give everyone else boundary changes few want, they are jeopardizing their political futures.

This makes sense.

By the way, on Nextdoor, there is a concerted effort by Great Falls/Langley parents to stop the KAA purchase.

I have been sympathetic to these Langley families in the past, because I agree with having kids stay where they are. I, too, wanted my neighborhood to stay put. But THRU was picking my neighborhood to go to a journey comparable to the Langley one. Except, we like our nearby school.

Carson is split between Oakton, South Lakes, and Westfield. The kids that go to Westfield are separated from it by commercial and industrial developments. This is not conducive to building a "community."
Oakton is a ridiculous commute for Carson students.

The KAA site would have a "community" around it which is a good thing. The boundary would easily be reasonable and compact--not gerrymandered. It would alleviate "overcrowding" at Chantilly which is cited frequently by the SB members. It would eliminate an extremely long and hard commute for many students.

I was disturbed when the site was given to KAA years ago with no community input. I do believe that the BOS put political pressure on them because of the protest by the Burke area. Here is a chance to make it right.

Of course the Great Falls families are behind an effort to stop the purchase. Anything that might negatively impact their kids is bad even if it 1) makes sense and 2) is good for other kids. God forbid that something happens that might decrease the student numbers at Herndon and lead to kids being shifted to Herndon from Langley. Far better to keep a massive split feeder out of Carson and shift kids all over the place between SLHS, Westfield, Oakton, Chantilly, Centerville, and Herndon. All that matters is that the kids at Langley stay put.

DP. You are truly ignorant if this is what your narrative is. I've seen the NextDoor discussion and it has NOTHING to do with moving kids around at all. It's about the lack of transparency in making this purchase with zero community input. I think it's a great purchase and makes perfect sense, but I can still understand the point being made about lack of transparency.

A week ago you had Thru proposals out there that would move kids out of Westfield, Chantilly, Centreville, and South Lakes and in many instances families weren’t happy.

Thru wasn’t proposing to move anyone out of Langley, but there were no people more willing to help others articulate their concerns with the processes being followed than the FairFACTS Matters and BRAC members from Langley.

Then when the SB announced the KAA purchase, that was all forgotten, and the people who stood to benefit from a new school attacked the same folks who’d been helping them because they continued to raise questions about some of FCPS’s less than transparent processes.

Don’t get played, people.

A little common sense goes a long way.

This school announced closure in February. BRAC was well underway. I have no love lost for the SB and Reid, but do you really think they should have said: "Good news! We hope to purchase the KAA facility for a new Western High School. So, we are going to stop BRAC."

What could go wrong with a statement like that? What could go wrong with showing your cards in a competitive process like this purchase?

Yes, I appreciate that the Great Falls people tried to stop the boundary process, but with the THRU proposals, they were the only ones untouched.
My neighborhood stands to be split with the THRU proposals and many of the students will be sent on a long, long haul away. So, I really don't see what they have done for us.

Your last sentence is so amazing that it’s worth calling out.

The school board is trying to jam you with boundary changes. A community group is pushing back on your behalf. Literally fighting your fight.

And you have the gall to complain about the community group. Could you be any more pathetic?