What exactly is the democratic party going to stand for in 2026 and 2028?

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Anonymous wrote:All this crowing about Biden and other Democrats. If people are honest (but they aren’t) they will admit it was stable. No insanity with breaking down agencies like the FAA, state department, FDA, CDC just to start with, not throwing birthday parades for himself, no insane tweeting, not sending the military in against folks exercising their first amendment rights.

This just shows why the red states are at the bottom with education.

Sure. But people don't want stasis either. And that's all that Democrats are offering. Schumer and Jeffries - the leaders of the Democratic Party - aren't exactly change agents. It's more like the corruption goes in slightly different directions with the current crop of Democratic leaders.

Take a look at Pelosi"s wealth. She's never earned more than $180,000 in her life. She's presently worth $115 million because of her insider trading. Don't think for a moment that Democrats are less corrupt than this generation of Republicans. And the Biden corruption - while not on Trump levels, was profound too. Hunter Biden made nearly $2 million from his "paintings," which doesn't compare to what Donald jr and Eric Trump are making from their crypto scams. But still.

Republicans suck. But so too Democrats.

No idea if what any of you said is true. But who do you want in charge if some widespread disease broke out? If something happened to our water supply? Power grid? Do you have confidence in the FAA? Trump is not only a person you can’t take seriously, he is dangerous. Just take a look at his cabinet. Would you rather have those folks running the show or the people from Biden‘s cabinet?

DP. With all due respect, it literally does not matter at all what you or I want. Your wishes are entirely irrelevant to winning the presidency in 2028. DCUM blue bubble voters are as relevant to winning the presidency as a garden slug is.

You need to convince swing state voters to agree with you if you want Democrats to win in 2028. And in particular you need to convince the voters that completely distrust the Democrats to vote for a Democratic candidate and not stay home or vote Republican.

That’s a tall order right now. The Democrats aren’t trusted on being honest about their leadership, education and school closures, trans, the COVID vaccine, border/immigration issues, money to Ukraine, or Gaza. That’s a lot of broken trust to make up.

By the way, none of this group trusts the Republicans (and it will be worse if their healthcare is gutted and the random kidnappings continue), but they distrust the Democrats more. I don’t think you understand just how tarnished the Democratic brand is outside of the DCUM blue bubble.

Exactly. The swing voters will vote for change again in 2028. Yawn. We've seen this before. Unfit elderly people aren't popular presidents in swing voter world. Go figure.

I don’t think they will vote for the Democrats at this point, though. Barring a generational talent, Vance will be our next president. There is too much lost trust.

You sound like the fruitcakes who thought Pence, Mondale, and Harris were destined to be the next POTUS.

I’m the PP who has correctly predicted every election since 2008, including Trump 2016.

And truth be told, it’s too early to predict outcome now. But I’m pessimistic for the Democrats today. It’s not that I think Vance is a very good politician. It’s that the Democrats are just so, so bad now. Bad enough that I don’t think they’ll get the normal lift of an unpopular president.

Mandami is lifting my spirits a bit, at least.

Why is mandami lifting your spirits?

Because it shows the Democrats have a pulse and can find a populist candidate. I thought the party was entirely dead for 2028, but Mamdani’s win is giving me some hope.

I don’t know if Mamdani will win overall. I don’t pay enough attention to local races to understand the dynamics, so I don’t want to predict that one. But the emergence of a charismatic populist is a breath of fresh air.

He will win

Yes he will!!

Yep. He'll drive out the wealthy which pay 50% of NYC's taxes. Jobs will disappear. He will freeze rents and owners will sell the properties, and then there will be housing shortages because it will take forever to get funding as the tax base leaves, like happened in Flint, MI. Lower invome workers won't be able to find housing, so they'll leave.

Brilliant.

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Anonymous wrote:All this crowing about Biden and other Democrats. If people are honest (but they aren’t) they will admit it was stable. No insanity with breaking down agencies like the FAA, state department, FDA, CDC just to start with, not throwing birthday parades for himself, no insane tweeting, not sending the military in against folks exercising their first amendment rights.

This just shows why the red states are at the bottom with education.

Sure. But people don't want stasis either. And that's all that Democrats are offering. Schumer and Jeffries - the leaders of the Democratic Party - aren't exactly change agents. It's more like the corruption goes in slightly different directions with the current crop of Democratic leaders.

Take a look at Pelosi"s wealth. She's never earned more than $180,000 in her life. She's presently worth $115 million because of her insider trading. Don't think for a moment that Democrats are less corrupt than this generation of Republicans. And the Biden corruption - while not on Trump levels, was profound too. Hunter Biden made nearly $2 million from his "paintings," which doesn't compare to what Donald jr and Eric Trump are making from their crypto scams. But still.

Republicans suck. But so too Democrats.

No idea if what any of you said is true. But who do you want in charge if some widespread disease broke out? If something happened to our water supply? Power grid? Do you have confidence in the FAA? Trump is not only a person you can’t take seriously, he is dangerous. Just take a look at his cabinet. Would you rather have those folks running the show or the people from Biden‘s cabinet?

DP. With all due respect, it literally does not matter at all what you or I want. Your wishes are entirely irrelevant to winning the presidency in 2028. DCUM blue bubble voters are as relevant to winning the presidency as a garden slug is.

You need to convince swing state voters to agree with you if you want Democrats to win in 2028. And in particular you need to convince the voters that completely distrust the Democrats to vote for a Democratic candidate and not stay home or vote Republican.

That’s a tall order right now. The Democrats aren’t trusted on being honest about their leadership, education and school closures, trans, the COVID vaccine, border/immigration issues, money to Ukraine, or Gaza. That’s a lot of broken trust to make up.

By the way, none of this group trusts the Republicans (and it will be worse if their healthcare is gutted and the random kidnappings continue), but they distrust the Democrats more. I don’t think you understand just how tarnished the Democratic brand is outside of the DCUM blue bubble.

Exactly. The swing voters will vote for change again in 2028. Yawn. We've seen this before. Unfit elderly people aren't popular presidents in swing voter world. Go figure.

I don’t think they will vote for the Democrats at this point, though. Barring a generational talent, Vance will be our next president. There is too much lost trust.

You sound like the fruitcakes who thought Pence, Mondale, and Harris were destined to be the next POTUS.

I’m the PP who has correctly predicted every election since 2008, including Trump 2016.

And truth be told, it’s too early to predict outcome now. But I’m pessimistic for the Democrats today. It’s not that I think Vance is a very good politician. It’s that the Democrats are just so, so bad now. Bad enough that I don’t think they’ll get the normal lift of an unpopular president.

Mandami is lifting my spirits a bit, at least.

Why is mandami lifting your spirits?

Because it shows the Democrats have a pulse and can find a populist candidate. I thought the party was entirely dead for 2028, but Mamdani’s win is giving me some hope.

I don’t know if Mamdani will win overall. I don’t pay enough attention to local races to understand the dynamics, so I don’t want to predict that one. But the emergence of a charismatic populist is a breath of fresh air.

He will win

Whether Mamdani wins in NYC or not, he does not help Democrats nationally. At all. But if establishment Democrats choose to run washed up serial sexual harrasers and Covid extremists like Andrew Cuomo, primary voters are going to vote differently. As long as the Democratic establishment continues to put forth shit candidates, voters will go elsewhere. Candidates matter. And the DNC and the Democratic establishment don't seem to understand that. So primary voters will go to far left progressives, who are much more likely to lose in the general. And the disaster perpetuates itself.

I think the current primary system with closed primaries excludes the more moderate independents, driving both parties away from the center, which in turn alienates the more moderate portions of the parties. It’s a toxic self-perpetuating cycle and to have a healthy system, we really need open primaries and ranked choice voting.

However, before we can worry about the health of our democracy, we need to ensure its survival. I think there is a critical lesson to be learned from the last lesson. When voters tried to express their concerns (inflation, immigration, Biden’s age, etc.), the two parties responded very differently. Trump claimed to care about their problems and promised to fix them. Meanwhile, the Democrats told the voters that the problems the voters were experiencing weren’t really problems, that the Democrats knew better than the voters themselves what the real issues were, and if a voter disagreed, it was because they were either evil or stupid. Now I don’t think for one minute that Trump actually cared about the voters’ problems (or anything besides his own self-interest), nor do I think him capable of fixing anything, even if he did care, but at least he acknowledged their problems. The Democrats, on the other hand, tried to gaslight them and openly expressed their contempt for large segments of voters.

If the Democrats are to win, they need to take up the issues of the voters and show them how the Democrats can offer real solutions. Stop playing politics and just solve problems. Don’t ignore reality — we’ve been barreling towards disaster for decades with the debt, it was reaching a critical point even before Trump came in and decided to give it a great, big, push. Yes, we absolutely need to “tax the rich”, but that won’t begin to cover the debt. Cuts will also be necessary. Start in whatever areas you want - defense, etc., but also start going after pork, corruption (especially on the Democratic side) and other areas that can be cut. I know the idea of cutting anything from departments whose goals are admirable, hurts, but any bureaucracy this large that has had 250 years to evolve will absolutely have inefficiencies, and if we don’t cut what we can now, we put it all at risk when the system collapses.

We need to look at solutions beyond throwing money at people. It doesn’t get to the roots of the problems and can sometimes make things worse. Corporate greed is out of control, and while taxing the rich more is necessary, it won’t really get at the underlying problems. You need to start breaking up these monopolies and deal with the problems of private equity. Deal with high medical costs. (why do other countries pay more for medicine than we do? If we funded the research, we should be getting a discount.) Instead of forgiving college loan debt, find a way to make college cheaper and/or provide alternatives. Take some (any) kind of action to block illegal immigration, but then expand the quotas for legal immigration and simplify/streamline the process.

Instead of a grand political Build Back Better Bill (vs. Trump’s Big, Beautiful Bill - Did some pollster convince politicians that voters liked the letter B?), start with streamlined bills (ex. Here’s a straightforward bill that just funds road and bridge maintenance, no pork - the Republicans can either get on board or explain to the voters why they’re risking a bridge collapse). It would be lovely if we could do everything for everyone, but we can no longer afford that. The order of priority has to be:
1. America as a country
2. American citizens as individuals
1000. Party

The Democrats need to show how they will support the voters’ wishes if they want to win. If they continue to approach elections as if it is the voters’ role to support the party’s wishes then the electorate will continue to turn away from them and toward any party that is willing to at least pretend to listen.

I couldn't agree more. It's politics 101. It should be so basic to validate and empathize with people's concerns and fears, acknowledge mistakes (we all make them!) and come up with a plan that most can support or tolerate. It shouldn't be some monumental task to meet people where they are.

The challenge is that to do this requires introspection and ability to criticize past policies that are no longer working. For example: healthcare. Sure Obamacare had some great provisions like coverage for preexisting conditions, allowing children to stay on a parent’s plan longer etc. but its premise that it would lower healthcare costs bc more coverage would mean fewer expensive ER visitors is a flop. Healthcare costs when combining what people pay for coverage with out of pocket expensive has only gone up the last 20 years. Dems needs to face up that Obamacare was a handout to the insurance companies and actually come up with a solution to fix the problem instead of pushing for expanding subsidies.

You forget that key parts of Obamacare were not allowed to be implemented. The same way we can’t get folks to move to universal healthcare or a model much much closer. Which most Democrats would freely agree to do.

We can’t have nice things because we won’t embrace community and instead have too many people that worship at the alter of greed and riches.

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You’d think that they’d be able to run on a platform of not being Nazis, child rapists, or conmen, but apparently a lot of voters are into that kind of stuff.

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Anonymous wrote:All this crowing about Biden and other Democrats. If people are honest (but they aren’t) they will admit it was stable. No insanity with breaking down agencies like the FAA, state department, FDA, CDC just to start with, not throwing birthday parades for himself, no insane tweeting, not sending the military in against folks exercising their first amendment rights.

This just shows why the red states are at the bottom with education.

Sure. But people don't want stasis either. And that's all that Democrats are offering. Schumer and Jeffries - the leaders of the Democratic Party - aren't exactly change agents. It's more like the corruption goes in slightly different directions with the current crop of Democratic leaders.

Take a look at Pelosi"s wealth. She's never earned more than $180,000 in her life. She's presently worth $115 million because of her insider trading. Don't think for a moment that Democrats are less corrupt than this generation of Republicans. And the Biden corruption - while not on Trump levels, was profound too. Hunter Biden made nearly $2 million from his "paintings," which doesn't compare to what Donald jr and Eric Trump are making from their crypto scams. But still.

Republicans suck. But so too Democrats.

No idea if what any of you said is true. But who do you want in charge if some widespread disease broke out? If something happened to our water supply? Power grid? Do you have confidence in the FAA? Trump is not only a person you can’t take seriously, he is dangerous. Just take a look at his cabinet. Would you rather have those folks running the show or the people from Biden‘s cabinet?

DP. With all due respect, it literally does not matter at all what you or I want. Your wishes are entirely irrelevant to winning the presidency in 2028. DCUM blue bubble voters are as relevant to winning the presidency as a garden slug is.

You need to convince swing state voters to agree with you if you want Democrats to win in 2028. And in particular you need to convince the voters that completely distrust the Democrats to vote for a Democratic candidate and not stay home or vote Republican.

That’s a tall order right now. The Democrats aren’t trusted on being honest about their leadership, education and school closures, trans, the COVID vaccine, border/immigration issues, money to Ukraine, or Gaza. That’s a lot of broken trust to make up.

By the way, none of this group trusts the Republicans (and it will be worse if their healthcare is gutted and the random kidnappings continue), but they distrust the Democrats more. I don’t think you understand just how tarnished the Democratic brand is outside of the DCUM blue bubble.

Exactly. The swing voters will vote for change again in 2028. Yawn. We've seen this before. Unfit elderly people aren't popular presidents in swing voter world. Go figure.

I don’t think they will vote for the Democrats at this point, though. Barring a generational talent, Vance will be our next president. There is too much lost trust.

You sound like the fruitcakes who thought Pence, Mondale, and Harris were destined to be the next POTUS.

I’m the PP who has correctly predicted every election since 2008, including Trump 2016.

And truth be told, it’s too early to predict outcome now. But I’m pessimistic for the Democrats today. It’s not that I think Vance is a very good politician. It’s that the Democrats are just so, so bad now. Bad enough that I don’t think they’ll get the normal lift of an unpopular president.

Mandami is lifting my spirits a bit, at least.

Why is mandami lifting your spirits?

Because it shows the Democrats have a pulse and can find a populist candidate. I thought the party was entirely dead for 2028, but Mamdani’s win is giving me some hope.

I don’t know if Mamdani will win overall. I don’t pay enough attention to local races to understand the dynamics, so I don’t want to predict that one. But the emergence of a charismatic populist is a breath of fresh air.

He will win

Yes he will!!

Yep. He'll drive out the wealthy which pay 50% of NYC's taxes. Jobs will disappear. He will freeze rents and owners will sell the properties, and then there will be housing shortages because it will take forever to get funding as the tax base leaves, like happened in Flint, MI. Lower invome workers won't be able to find housing, so they'll leave.

Brilliant.

Care you share your analysis?

Hahahaha.

Lmao.

Losers making stuff up again.

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Anonymous wrote:All this crowing about Biden and other Democrats. If people are honest (but they aren’t) they will admit it was stable. No insanity with breaking down agencies like the FAA, state department, FDA, CDC just to start with, not throwing birthday parades for himself, no insane tweeting, not sending the military in against folks exercising their first amendment rights.

This just shows why the red states are at the bottom with education.

Sure. But people don't want stasis either. And that's all that Democrats are offering. Schumer and Jeffries - the leaders of the Democratic Party - aren't exactly change agents. It's more like the corruption goes in slightly different directions with the current crop of Democratic leaders.

Take a look at Pelosi"s wealth. She's never earned more than $180,000 in her life. She's presently worth $115 million because of her insider trading. Don't think for a moment that Democrats are less corrupt than this generation of Republicans. And the Biden corruption - while not on Trump levels, was profound too. Hunter Biden made nearly $2 million from his "paintings," which doesn't compare to what Donald jr and Eric Trump are making from their crypto scams. But still.

Republicans suck. But so too Democrats.

No idea if what any of you said is true. But who do you want in charge if some widespread disease broke out? If something happened to our water supply? Power grid? Do you have confidence in the FAA? Trump is not only a person you can’t take seriously, he is dangerous. Just take a look at his cabinet. Would you rather have those folks running the show or the people from Biden‘s cabinet?

DP. With all due respect, it literally does not matter at all what you or I want. Your wishes are entirely irrelevant to winning the presidency in 2028. DCUM blue bubble voters are as relevant to winning the presidency as a garden slug is.

You need to convince swing state voters to agree with you if you want Democrats to win in 2028. And in particular you need to convince the voters that completely distrust the Democrats to vote for a Democratic candidate and not stay home or vote Republican.

That’s a tall order right now. The Democrats aren’t trusted on being honest about their leadership, education and school closures, trans, the COVID vaccine, border/immigration issues, money to Ukraine, or Gaza. That’s a lot of broken trust to make up.

By the way, none of this group trusts the Republicans (and it will be worse if their healthcare is gutted and the random kidnappings continue), but they distrust the Democrats more. I don’t think you understand just how tarnished the Democratic brand is outside of the DCUM blue bubble.

Exactly. The swing voters will vote for change again in 2028. Yawn. We've seen this before. Unfit elderly people aren't popular presidents in swing voter world. Go figure.

I don’t think they will vote for the Democrats at this point, though. Barring a generational talent, Vance will be our next president. There is too much lost trust.

You sound like the fruitcakes who thought Pence, Mondale, and Harris were destined to be the next POTUS.

The issue is folks want the Democrats to stand for a bunch of things and be the adults in the room but the Republicans are not held to the same standard. So you have Independents actually looking alto see who has the best policies, people who don’t vote, and then Dems expecting more and potentially not voting or voting third party. Meanwhile the Republicans are just repeating the same lies over and over and pointing fingers and fearmongering.

Dems are trying to hold the line on a rigged game and white frankly need to flip the table over and start aiming at people. Everyone’s so worried about what happens to democracy when that occurs, when the reality is democracy is dying because this isn’t taking place.

It’s long past time for radical action and change and new norms to be formed.

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Anonymous wrote:All this crowing about Biden and other Democrats. If people are honest (but they aren’t) they will admit it was stable. No insanity with breaking down agencies like the FAA, state department, FDA, CDC just to start with, not throwing birthday parades for himself, no insane tweeting, not sending the military in against folks exercising their first amendment rights.

This just shows why the red states are at the bottom with education.

Sure. But people don't want stasis either. And that's all that Democrats are offering. Schumer and Jeffries - the leaders of the Democratic Party - aren't exactly change agents. It's more like the corruption goes in slightly different directions with the current crop of Democratic leaders.

Take a look at Pelosi"s wealth. She's never earned more than $180,000 in her life. She's presently worth $115 million because of her insider trading. Don't think for a moment that Democrats are less corrupt than this generation of Republicans. And the Biden corruption - while not on Trump levels, was profound too. Hunter Biden made nearly $2 million from his "paintings," which doesn't compare to what Donald jr and Eric Trump are making from their crypto scams. But still.

Republicans suck. But so too Democrats.

No idea if what any of you said is true. But who do you want in charge if some widespread disease broke out? If something happened to our water supply? Power grid? Do you have confidence in the FAA? Trump is not only a person you can’t take seriously, he is dangerous. Just take a look at his cabinet. Would you rather have those folks running the show or the people from Biden‘s cabinet?

DP. With all due respect, it literally does not matter at all what you or I want. Your wishes are entirely irrelevant to winning the presidency in 2028. DCUM blue bubble voters are as relevant to winning the presidency as a garden slug is.

You need to convince swing state voters to agree with you if you want Democrats to win in 2028. And in particular you need to convince the voters that completely distrust the Democrats to vote for a Democratic candidate and not stay home or vote Republican.

That’s a tall order right now. The Democrats aren’t trusted on being honest about their leadership, education and school closures, trans, the COVID vaccine, border/immigration issues, money to Ukraine, or Gaza. That’s a lot of broken trust to make up.

By the way, none of this group trusts the Republicans (and it will be worse if their healthcare is gutted and the random kidnappings continue), but they distrust the Democrats more. I don’t think you understand just how tarnished the Democratic brand is outside of the DCUM blue bubble.

Exactly. The swing voters will vote for change again in 2028. Yawn. We've seen this before. Unfit elderly people aren't popular presidents in swing voter world. Go figure.

I don’t think they will vote for the Democrats at this point, though. Barring a generational talent, Vance will be our next president. There is too much lost trust.

You sound like the fruitcakes who thought Pence, Mondale, and Harris were destined to be the next POTUS.

I’m the PP who has correctly predicted every election since 2008, including Trump 2016.

And truth be told, it’s too early to predict outcome now. But I’m pessimistic for the Democrats today. It’s not that I think Vance is a very good politician. It’s that the Democrats are just so, so bad now. Bad enough that I don’t think they’ll get the normal lift of an unpopular president.

Mandami is lifting my spirits a bit, at least.

Why is mandami lifting your spirits?

Because it shows the Democrats have a pulse and can find a populist candidate. I thought the party was entirely dead for 2028, but Mamdani’s win is giving me some hope.

I don’t know if Mamdani will win overall. I don’t pay enough attention to local races to understand the dynamics, so I don’t want to predict that one. But the emergence of a charismatic populist is a breath of fresh air.

He will win

Yes he will!!

Yep. He'll drive out the wealthy which pay 50% of NYC's taxes. Jobs will disappear. He will freeze rents and owners will sell the properties, and then there will be housing shortages because it will take forever to get funding as the tax base leaves, like happened in Flint, MI. Lower invome workers won't be able to find housing, so they'll leave.

Brilliant.

NYC can stand to have fewer wealthy people.

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Anonymous wrote:1. Sensible gun regulation
2. Bodily autonomy
3. Basic human rights first all
4. Ending the destruction of our environment

Affordability needs to be at the top of the list.

This. All of the other stuff can be in the platform but sadly those aren’t really going to motivate voters.

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Anonymous wrote:All this crowing about Biden and other Democrats. If people are honest (but they aren’t) they will admit it was stable. No insanity with breaking down agencies like the FAA, state department, FDA, CDC just to start with, not throwing birthday parades for himself, no insane tweeting, not sending the military in against folks exercising their first amendment rights.

This just shows why the red states are at the bottom with education.

Sure. But people don't want stasis either. And that's all that Democrats are offering. Schumer and Jeffries - the leaders of the Democratic Party - aren't exactly change agents. It's more like the corruption goes in slightly different directions with the current crop of Democratic leaders.

Take a look at Pelosi"s wealth. She's never earned more than $180,000 in her life. She's presently worth $115 million because of her insider trading. Don't think for a moment that Democrats are less corrupt than this generation of Republicans. And the Biden corruption - while not on Trump levels, was profound too. Hunter Biden made nearly $2 million from his "paintings," which doesn't compare to what Donald jr and Eric Trump are making from their crypto scams. But still.

Republicans suck. But so too Democrats.

No idea if what any of you said is true. But who do you want in charge if some widespread disease broke out? If something happened to our water supply? Power grid? Do you have confidence in the FAA? Trump is not only a person you can’t take seriously, he is dangerous. Just take a look at his cabinet. Would you rather have those folks running the show or the people from Biden‘s cabinet?

DP. With all due respect, it literally does not matter at all what you or I want. Your wishes are entirely irrelevant to winning the presidency in 2028. DCUM blue bubble voters are as relevant to winning the presidency as a garden slug is.

You need to convince swing state voters to agree with you if you want Democrats to win in 2028. And in particular you need to convince the voters that completely distrust the Democrats to vote for a Democratic candidate and not stay home or vote Republican.

That’s a tall order right now. The Democrats aren’t trusted on being honest about their leadership, education and school closures, trans, the COVID vaccine, border/immigration issues, money to Ukraine, or Gaza. That’s a lot of broken trust to make up.

By the way, none of this group trusts the Republicans (and it will be worse if their healthcare is gutted and the random kidnappings continue), but they distrust the Democrats more. I don’t think you understand just how tarnished the Democratic brand is outside of the DCUM blue bubble.

Exactly. The swing voters will vote for change again in 2028. Yawn. We've seen this before. Unfit elderly people aren't popular presidents in swing voter world. Go figure.

I don’t think they will vote for the Democrats at this point, though. Barring a generational talent, Vance will be our next president. There is too much lost trust.

You sound like the fruitcakes who thought Pence, Mondale, and Harris were destined to be the next POTUS.

I’m the PP who has correctly predicted every election since 2008, including Trump 2016.

And truth be told, it’s too early to predict outcome now. But I’m pessimistic for the Democrats today. It’s not that I think Vance is a very good politician. It’s that the Democrats are just so, so bad now. Bad enough that I don’t think they’ll get the normal lift of an unpopular president.

Mandami is lifting my spirits a bit, at least.

Why is mandami lifting your spirits?

Because it shows the Democrats have a pulse and can find a populist candidate. I thought the party was entirely dead for 2028, but Mamdani’s win is giving me some hope.

I don’t know if Mamdani will win overall. I don’t pay enough attention to local races to understand the dynamics, so I don’t want to predict that one. But the emergence of a charismatic populist is a breath of fresh air.

He will win

Yes he will!!

Yep. He'll drive out the wealthy which pay 50% of NYC's taxes. Jobs will disappear. He will freeze rents and owners will sell the properties, and then there will be housing shortages because it will take forever to get funding as the tax base leaves, like happened in Flint, MI. Lower invome workers won't be able to find housing, so they'll leave.

Brilliant.

Care you share your analysis?

Hahahaha.

Lmao.

Losers making stuff up again.

Cause and effect.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:1. Sensible gun regulation
2. Bodily autonomy
3. Basic human rights first all
4. Ending the destruction of our environment

Affordability needs to be at the top of the list.

This. All of the other stuff can be in the platform but sadly those aren’t really going to motivate voters.

We have too much demand and too little supply. Democrats don't have a serious plan for addressing either side of the equation. (No, Republicans also won't fix either, but this thread is about Dems.)

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I want endless investigations into Trump and any of his cronies involvement with Epstein, no matter how tenuous.

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Anonymous wrote:Are the Ds out to sea? I LOATHE trump. But where are we in 2024?

The Border?
Tariffs?
Taxes and Spending?
Social Justice?
DEI?
Russia / Ukraine?
Energy?
EV policy?

How about just standing for DECENCY and HONESTY.

[Anonymous]

Lately in left parts of the internet, I've noticed people talking about legalizing prostitution, expanding government housing projects, having state-run grocery stores, polyamory, and wanting the rich to be taxed more heavily. So I tend to think this will be campaign issues.

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What will the Republicans stand for in 2026?

This is what I see as the GOP Platform in 2026:

Erosion of Democracy and Authoritarian Drift
Undermining elections, empowering autocrats, and dismantling democratic norms — the GOP has embraced power over principle.

Weaponizing Government Against Political Opponents
From threats to prosecute rivals to purging civil servants, Republicans are turning the state into a partisan weapon.

Attacks on Reproductive Rights
The party has led the rollback of abortion access and bodily autonomy, even in cases of rape or medical emergency.

Promotion of Conspiracy Theories and Misinformation
From QAnon to COVID to election denial, the GOP has become a breeding ground for dangerous falsehoods.

Undermining Press Freedom
Labeling journalists as “enemies of the people” and spreading disinformation to discredit factual reporting.

Climate Denial and Environmental Rollbacks
Blocking clean energy, gutting environmental protections from known carcinogens and harmful pollution, and denying science while the planet burns.

Suppression of Voting Rights
Gerrymandering, voter ID laws, and purges designed to silence opposition and rig outcomes.

Fiscal Hypocrisy and Exploding Deficits
Trillions added to the debt while claiming to be fiscally responsible — all to fund tax cuts for the rich.

Corporate Welfare and Tax Breaks for Billionaires
Massive giveaways to the ultra-wealthy while working families get crumbs and broken promises.

Encouraging Political Violence and Failing to Condemn It
From January 6 to threats against officials, silence or complicity has become the norm.

Cuts to Social Safety Nets
Slashing Medicaid, food aid, and disability support while claiming to defend “real Americans.”

Denial, Attack and Disregard for Scientific Expertise and Public Health
COVID denial, anti-vaccine rhetoric, and rejection of basic science have endangered lives.

Undermining Public Education and Promoting Censorship
Book bans, attacks on teachers, and politicized curricula threaten intellectual freedom.

Cult-Like Loyalty to Individual Leaders
Loyalty to Trump overrides law, ethics, and even longstanding conservative principles.

Sexual Misconduct and Exploitation
Repeated scandals involving underage women and failure to hold perpetrators accountable.

Isolationist Foreign Policy
Abandoning and maligning allies and cozying up to dictators weakens America’s global standing.

Masked Goon Squads
Using anonymous force against civilians during protests — a chilling abuse of power.

Destroying Consumer Safety and Financial Protections
Deregulation has left Americans vulnerable to scams, unsafe products, and corporate abuse.

Inflation Without Relief
Policies that worsen inflation while blocking efforts to ease the burden on working families.

I'm not wrong on any of these...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What will the Republicans stand for in 2026?

This is what I see as the GOP Platform in 2026:

Erosion of Democracy and Authoritarian Drift
Undermining elections, empowering autocrats, and dismantling democratic norms — the GOP has embraced power over principle.

Weaponizing Government Against Political Opponents
From threats to prosecute rivals to purging civil servants, Republicans are turning the state into a partisan weapon.

Attacks on Reproductive Rights
The party has led the rollback of abortion access and bodily autonomy, even in cases of rape or medical emergency.

Promotion of Conspiracy Theories and Misinformation
From QAnon to COVID to election denial, the GOP has become a breeding ground for dangerous falsehoods.

Undermining Press Freedom
Labeling journalists as “enemies of the people” and spreading disinformation to discredit factual reporting.

Climate Denial and Environmental Rollbacks
Blocking clean energy, gutting environmental protections from known carcinogens and harmful pollution, and denying science while the planet burns.

Suppression of Voting Rights
Gerrymandering, voter ID laws, and purges designed to silence opposition and rig outcomes.

Fiscal Hypocrisy and Exploding Deficits
Trillions added to the debt while claiming to be fiscally responsible — all to fund tax cuts for the rich.

Corporate Welfare and Tax Breaks for Billionaires
Massive giveaways to the ultra-wealthy while working families get crumbs and broken promises.

Encouraging Political Violence and Failing to Condemn It
From January 6 to threats against officials, silence or complicity has become the norm.

Cuts to Social Safety Nets
Slashing Medicaid, food aid, and disability support while claiming to defend “real Americans.”

Denial, Attack and Disregard for Scientific Expertise and Public Health
COVID denial, anti-vaccine rhetoric, and rejection of basic science have endangered lives.

Undermining Public Education and Promoting Censorship
Book bans, attacks on teachers, and politicized curricula threaten intellectual freedom.

Cult-Like Loyalty to Individual Leaders
Loyalty to Trump overrides law, ethics, and even longstanding conservative principles.

Sexual Misconduct and Exploitation
Repeated scandals involving underage women and failure to hold perpetrators accountable.

Isolationist Foreign Policy
Abandoning and maligning allies and cozying up to dictators weakens America’s global standing.

Masked Goon Squads
Using anonymous force against civilians during protests — a chilling abuse of power.

Destroying Consumer Safety and Financial Protections
Deregulation has left Americans vulnerable to scams, unsafe products, and corporate abuse.

Inflation Without Relief
Policies that worsen inflation while blocking efforts to ease the burden on working families.

I'm not wrong on any of these...

I will take all of these over losing my job because of Democrats immigration policies

Hierarchy of needs

I need to work to support my family.