What exactly is the democratic party going to stand for in 2026 and 2028?

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Are the Ds out to sea? I LOATHE trump. But where are we in 2024?

The Border?
Tariffs?
Taxes and Spending?
Social Justice?
DEI?
Russia / Ukraine?
Energy?
EV policy?


Border: sensible enforcement without cruel and unusual punishment, splitting families, or targeting political speech.

Tariffs: repeal and return to the negotiated rates from the Biden administration

Taxes: return to the rates we had under Clinton, when the budget was actually balanced. Sensible entitlement reductions (eg shifting full retirement age to 70). Adult budget process so Treasury auctions remain successful.

Social justice: this is a buzzword that doesn’t translate to national policy.

DEI: focus on equality of opportunity for all Americans rather than selectively persecuting minorities by firing them from Federal service. Restore the DOJ enforcement of civil rights

Russia/Ukraine: work with Europe to continue containing Russian aggression.

Energy: get out of the way of market-based decarbonization of energy supplies, by not artificially propping up coal and petroleum.

EVs: better infrastructure for charging and upgrades to the electrical grid so we can keep up with China and other 21st century economies, and not be stuck as a relic of the 20th century as desired by Republicans.



Sounds good to me. Pick a candidate and you have my vote.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Are the Ds out to sea? I LOATHE trump. But where are we in 2024?

The Border?
Tariffs?
Taxes and Spending?
Social Justice?
DEI?
Russia / Ukraine?
Energy?
EV policy?



They will double down on:

Tax and spend, social justice (boys in girls sports) DEI, Energy (wind and solar) and of course EVs.

Perhaps not the best strategies but the only ones they know.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:America dislikes Democrats more than Trump. That is incredibly damning.


2018: blue tsunami’s
2020: Dem Trifecta
2022: no red wave

Democrats are up 27 house seat and 3 senators since Trump first ran.


2024: Trump won by 1.6%

Democrats are fine. They just need stop pretending they can “work across the aisle” with fascists, stop ignoring R lies and misinformation and stop assuming the average person knows how damaging R policies are and what Dems have done that they take for granted.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Against Trump.
not going to work. We need more. The weekly show with Hohn Stewart had some nuggets. For example, on immigration - there is a certain about this country needs to help support social security and fill jobs Americans won’t do. Quantify that and don’t shy away from it. What Biden allowed on immigration was just dumb (we now know why) but Trump is overcorrecting.




I can't stand when someone who purports to be anti-Trump normalizes his actions like this. You call what he is doing overcorrecting. Overcorrecting?

Yes, Biden changed some of the policies and, for example, had to spend resources fixing some of Trump's atrocities like reuniting the families separated by the widely condemned and failed "zero tolerance" policy. But there was an increase in migrants during the Biden administration for reasons that had absolutely nothing to do with Biden:

1. The resumption of (accumulated) migration after a having come to grinding halt during the pandemic
2. Devastating natural disasters in countries byond the usual migrants' home countries and crisis after crisis in places like Venezuela and Haiti.
3. Post-pandemic misery throughout the world

Biden focused on a humane (does not violate human rites!) policy that focused on legal immigration. He also:

1. Detained more people at the border than Trump had (yes, of course, this is because more people were coming but it is such FAKE NEWS to say he had open door policy and even supposed anti-Trumpers repeat it)

2. Repaired and continued Trump's border wall (despite having said he would not!)

3. Started the MISGUIDED and totally erroneous policy of detaining Venezuelans at the border because of their tattoos. The initial intelligence and CBP policy started under Biden!!! Of course Biden, not being a dictator or a monster, respected the Constitution and required due process so when after months of detention, asylum seekers had hearings, a judge could look at the evidence and either deport or not.

Only Stephen Miller, Kristi Noem et al would send a gay make-up artist, with no criminal records but instead a history of constant persecution, to a mega-prison in a third country because he has tattoos of Mom and Dad with crowns on them.

THIS IS AN ATROCITY.

This is not overcorrection. You normalize an atrocity by calling it that. If there were only one Andry Hernandez Romero, it would be too many. It would be a shocking situation. But we know from multiple media sources and, more recently, the (conservative!) Cato Institute's reseaech that there are dozens of LEGAL immigrants with NO CRIMINAL RECORD.

Whatever flaws someone had before or will have after pale in comparison to what is happening now.
Anonymous
I have little confidence that the Democrat party has learned anything, or that they will really see where they’ve gone wrong and change. We need a third party.

Border and immigration control are very important and cannot go back to Biden era policies. Unfettered immigration is weighing down wages and job conditions for workers across the spectrum.

Stop allowing the massive taking of profits from healthcare and create a new system that gives everyone access to affordable basic healthcare, especially as white collar jobs are drying up, trades, retail, part time & gig economy is the reality for most, and fewer and fewer people able to have lifetime employment with companies that will keep them on until 65 or 70. Uncouple healthcare from employers altogether. This might not be universal national healthcare but maybe vouchers to keep a consumer driven element. Could be a lot of different things. But anything universal needs to stick with basic healthcare, be prevention not pill-focused, and not fund unproven benefits like a lot of gender “medicine” or long drawn out invasive end-of-life procedures.
Anonymous
They should run on anti corruption and how their policies will create a stable economy where the rich pay more taxes
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I have little confidence that the Democrat party has learned anything, or that they will really see where they’ve gone wrong and change. We need a third party.

Border and immigration control are very important and cannot go back to Biden era policies. Unfettered immigration is weighing down wages and job conditions for workers across the spectrum.

Stop allowing the massive taking of profits from healthcare and create a new system that gives everyone access to affordable basic healthcare, especially as white collar jobs are drying up, trades, retail, part time & gig economy is the reality for most, and fewer and fewer people able to have lifetime employment with companies that will keep them on until 65 or 70. Uncouple healthcare from employers altogether. This might not be universal national healthcare but maybe vouchers to keep a consumer driven element. Could be a lot of different things. But anything universal needs to stick with basic healthcare, be prevention not pill-focused, and not fund unproven benefits like a lot of gender “medicine” or long drawn out invasive end-of-life procedures.

It's the Democratic party. Nobody will take you seriously if you don't get the name of the party right.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Against Trump.
not going to work. We need more. The weekly show with Hohn Stewart had some nuggets. For example, on immigration - there is a certain about this country needs to help support social security and fill jobs Americans won’t do. Quantify that and don’t shy away from it. What Biden allowed on immigration was just dumb (we now know why) but Trump is overcorrecting.




I can't stand when someone who purports to be anti-Trump normalizes his actions like this. You call what he is doing overcorrecting. Overcorrecting?

Yes, Biden changed some of the policies and, for example, had to spend resources fixing some of Trump's atrocities like reuniting the families separated by the widely condemned and failed "zero tolerance" policy. But there was an increase in migrants during the Biden administration for reasons that had absolutely nothing to do with Biden:

1. The resumption of (accumulated) migration after a having come to grinding halt during the pandemic
2. Devastating natural disasters in countries byond the usual migrants' home countries and crisis after crisis in places like Venezuela and Haiti.
3. Post-pandemic misery throughout the world

Biden focused on a humane (does not violate human rites!) policy that focused on legal immigration. He also:

1. Detained more people at the border than Trump had (yes, of course, this is because more people were coming but it is such FAKE NEWS to say he had open door policy and even supposed anti-Trumpers repeat it)

2. Repaired and continued Trump's border wall (despite having said he would not!)

3. Started the MISGUIDED and totally erroneous policy of detaining Venezuelans at the border because of their tattoos. The initial intelligence and CBP policy started under Biden!!! Of course Biden, not being a dictator or a monster, respected the Constitution and required due process so when after months of detention, asylum seekers had hearings, a judge could look at the evidence and either deport or not.

Only Stephen Miller, Kristi Noem et al would send a gay make-up artist, with no criminal records but instead a history of constant persecution, to a mega-prison in a third country because he has tattoos of Mom and Dad with crowns on them.

THIS IS AN ATROCITY.

This is not overcorrection. You normalize an atrocity by calling it that. If there were only one Andry Hernandez Romero, it would be too many. It would be a shocking situation. But we know from multiple media sources and, more recently, the (conservative!) Cato Institute's reseaech that there are dozens of LEGAL immigrants with NO CRIMINAL RECORD.

Whatever flaws someone had before or will have after pale in comparison to what is happening now.


I think the point of the post you’re replying to is idealistic young staffers were making all the policy decisions. Some 25 year old wanted immigration to increase so it did.
Anonymous
People can debate all of the policy transformations we need to convince voters the party has undergone but if we don’t have a charismatic middle aged straight male to lead us we might as well focus on 2032.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Are the Ds out to sea? I LOATHE trump. But where are we in 2024?

The Border?
Tariffs?
Taxes and Spending?
Social Justice?
DEI?
Russia / Ukraine?
Energy?
EV policy?



How about the republic and democracy worldwide?
Anonymous
Democrats need their own cult leader. People want to be inspired.

People are tired of being scolded or corrected like school children.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Are the Ds out to sea? I LOATHE trump. But where are we in 2024?

The Border?
Tariffs?
Taxes and Spending?
Social Justice?
DEI?
Russia / Ukraine?
Energy?
EV policy?



The same things it always stands for:

Stable and growing economy
Job creation
Investments in our people and country through education, infrastructure and repatriating manufacturing from abroad
Rule of law for all.
Civil rights for all
A functioning government that works for all people.
FEMA
USAID and other soft power levers

Etc.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Are the Ds out to sea? I LOATHE trump. But where are we in 2024?

The Border?
Tariffs?
Taxes and Spending?
Social Justice?
DEI?
Russia / Ukraine?
Energy?
EV policy?



The same things it always stands for:

Stable and growing economy
Job creation
Investments in our people and country through education, infrastructure and repatriating manufacturing from abroad
Rule of law for all.
Civil rights for all
A functioning government that works for all people.
FEMA
USAID and other soft power levers

Etc.


You forgot boys in girls sports.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Are the Ds out to sea? I LOATHE trump. But where are we in 2024?

The Border?
Tariffs?
Taxes and Spending?
Social Justice?
DEI?
Russia / Ukraine?
Energy?
EV policy?



The same things it always stands for:

Stable and growing economy
Job creation
Investments in our people and country through education, infrastructure and repatriating manufacturing from abroad
Rule of law for all.
Civil rights for all
A functioning government that works for all people.
FEMA
USAID and other soft power levers

Etc.


You forgot boys in girls sports.


Oh have you encountered that?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Are the Ds out to sea? I LOATHE trump. But where are we in 2024?

The Border?
Tariffs?
Taxes and Spending?
Social Justice?
DEI?
Russia / Ukraine?
Energy?
EV policy?



How about the republic and democracy worldwide?



Are you going to support democracy by not holding a primary and trying get your political opponent jailed? Or will you do it differently this time?

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