Charlie Kirk shot at Utah Valley University

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The update this morning is even more damning. This kid was of the right. The statements make it clear they have no credible link to the left in this kid’s note or in the statements of those they’ve spoken to.

If the outcome of this is that Laura Loomer is detained on a mental health hold (again) pending investigation for incitement of terror, that would be a silver lining in an otherwise tragic situation.


I'm fine if Loomer gets detained, but the kid's a lefty. Just accept that and move on. All your wishing and hoping can't make it go away.


Maybe. Can you provide some evidence?


Nothing exists! We’re all specks of dust!

You didn’t say that. You didn’t see that. You didn’t write that. You don’t remember. Nothing exists.

Gawd is this thread lame the last 100 pages. Really took a turn into the toilet.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So the shooter had a boyfriend who was transitioning M->F.

Do I have that correct? It's all over the news.


It looks like there's not actually proof that it's his boyfriend or that he's MtF. But if there's actual evidence out there, I would honestly like to see it.


All MAGA has is a blurry instragram post of the roommate donning an anime costume begetting a furrie, which would put them in the AltRight, not the left.


The FBI has confirmed it. They have questioned/are questioning the roommate. So I’m pretty sure they aren’t wrong.


The FBI is being run by partisan hacks now who have a vested interest in stocking the misinformation, so take it all with a grain of salt.


Their neighbors confirmed it. Saw the boy boy couple holding hands and kissing in their walks.


Who cares.

A person killed another person. If the killer is not declares mentally ill, he will go to jail. If he is, he will go to an insane asylum. The end. Nothing else me to care about. In the meanwhile I don't need to care about any of it, the justice system has its job and I will focus on my own life.

Agree. Who cares. A trans woman being Lance and Tyler could have been working for Kirk. They may have even been a couple. Or this is all false. It doesn’t mean Robinson killed Kirk.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:


This is an odd takeaway. No one I know thinks he deserves to die. But there were other people who died that day, like those shot in Colorado, who we will mourn more.

There’s a whole website calling a database full of people “murderers” and most of them simply posted his views online.


You mean the website run by the gay trans pro-maga darling of the GOP?

https://www.advocate.com/politics/who-is-scott-presler


Do you think this is a gotcha? It's not. The fact that he's gay doesn't change the fact that MAGA is raring to have a witch hunt for people having a rational reaction to the death of someone who hated most Americans.


Earlier this morning, someone posted on this thread that because the shooter was gay, he was a liberal. Are you saying that is false?


There are lots of gay republicans. Milo Yianapolis was to the right of Charlie Kirk. He’s gay. They even have a group called GOP Proud and they were the first to endorse Trump. Caitlyn Jenner is trans and also a Republican


The secretary of treasury is a cisgender gay man. He’s 5th in line to be President. Are people actually arguing that no queer people are Republicans?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Tyler Robinson is a radicalized leftist and yet another violent, pro-trans, assassin:

https://www.ngocomment.com/p/unmasking-luna-charlie-kirk-assassin


Think of what could have been if he hadn’t been twisted and abused by far right extremism. If only he had been allowed to become who he was.

We need to investigate all of the these religious cults.


Are you claiming he did not live up to his full extreme left potential? Maybe could have murdered more innocents for their right wing beliefs?


Nick Fuentes has repeatedly attacked Charlie Kirk—called him a neocon, globalist, and fascist. MAGA needs to accept there's a decent likelihood the shooter was influenced by that, or by Loomer's attacks, and not some made-up pro-trans ideology they've concocted.


Lol

You’re still hoping your Alt Right killing Alt Right for not being Alt Right enough for you to gloat over, is still a thing.

What a waste of space.


Seems more relevant than ever. Investigators are pointing to gaming and internet subculture for source of radicalization. Cox and Patel have loosely called that leftwing. We’ve seen no real evidence yet.


R u a bot?

You’re still hoping your Alt Right killing Alt Right for not being Alt Right enough for you to gloat over, is still a thing.

What a waste of space.


"Still, investigators have pointed to gaming and “dark internet” culture as potential factors that allegedly radicalized him based on information from family, friends, and acquaintances.

“Clearly, there was a lot of gaming going on, friends that have confirmed that there was kind of that deep, dark internet, Reddit culture and these other dark places of the internet where this person was going deep. You saw that on the casings … the meme-ification that is happening in our society today,” the Republican governor told NBC News, referencing the messages engraved on bullet casings in a rifle found near the deadly shooting.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/09/15/politics/investigation-charlie-kirk-killing-wwk


I guess the right is going to call the "dark internet" as a leftist thing rather than what it is.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Welcome to Trump’s America, where they fire Karen Attiah and Matthew Dowd for pointing out Charlie Kirk’s right-wing extremism and applaud Brian Kilmeade for suggesting we murder the homeless.


And demands the medical records of transgender youth...

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Tyler Robinson is a radicalized leftist and yet another violent, pro-trans, assassin:

https://www.ngocomment.com/p/unmasking-luna-charlie-kirk-assassin


Think of what could have been if he hadn’t been twisted and abused by far right extremism. If only he had been allowed to become who he was.

We need to investigate all of the these religious cults.


Are you claiming he did not live up to his full extreme left potential? Maybe could have murdered more innocents for their right wing beliefs?


Nick Fuentes has repeatedly attacked Charlie Kirk—called him a neocon, globalist, and fascist. MAGA needs to accept there's a decent likelihood the shooter was influenced by that, or by Loomer's attacks, and not some made-up pro-trans ideology they've concocted.


Lol

You’re still hoping your Alt Right killing Alt Right for not being Alt Right enough for you to gloat over, is still a thing.

What a waste of space.


Seems more relevant than ever. Investigators are pointing to gaming and internet subculture for source of radicalization. Cox and Patel have loosely called that leftwing. We’ve seen no real evidence yet.


R u a bot?

You’re still hoping your Alt Right killing Alt Right for not being Alt Right enough for you to gloat over, is still a thing.

What a waste of space.


"Still, investigators have pointed to gaming and “dark internet” culture as potential factors that allegedly radicalized him based on information from family, friends, and acquaintances.

“Clearly, there was a lot of gaming going on, friends that have confirmed that there was kind of that deep, dark internet, Reddit culture and these other dark places of the internet where this person was going deep. You saw that on the casings … the meme-ification that is happening in our society today,” the Republican governor told NBC News, referencing the messages engraved on bullet casings in a rifle found near the deadly shooting.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/09/15/politics/investigation-charlie-kirk-killing-wwk


I use Reddit. I’m in the deep dark bowls of the internet.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Tyler Robinson is a radicalized leftist and yet another violent, pro-trans, assassin:

https://www.ngocomment.com/p/unmasking-luna-charlie-kirk-assassin


Think of what could have been if he hadn’t been twisted and abused by far right extremism. If only he had been allowed to become who he was.

We need to investigate all of the these religious cults.


Are you claiming he did not live up to his full extreme left potential? Maybe could have murdered more innocents for their right wing beliefs?


Nick Fuentes has repeatedly attacked Charlie Kirk—called him a neocon, globalist, and fascist. MAGA needs to accept there's a decent likelihood the shooter was influenced by that, or by Loomer's attacks, and not some made-up pro-trans ideology they've concocted.


Lol

You’re still hoping your Alt Right killing Alt Right for not being Alt Right enough for you to gloat over, is still a thing.

What a waste of space.


Seems more relevant than ever. Investigators are pointing to gaming and internet subculture for source of radicalization. Cox and Patel have loosely called that leftwing. We’ve seen no real evidence yet.


R u a bot?

You’re still hoping your Alt Right killing Alt Right for not being Alt Right enough for you to gloat over, is still a thing.

What a waste of space.


"Still, investigators have pointed to gaming and “dark internet” culture as potential factors that allegedly radicalized him based on information from family, friends, and acquaintances.

“Clearly, there was a lot of gaming going on, friends that have confirmed that there was kind of that deep, dark internet, Reddit culture and these other dark places of the internet where this person was going deep. You saw that on the casings … the meme-ification that is happening in our society today,” the Republican governor told NBC News, referencing the messages engraved on bullet casings in a rifle found near the deadly shooting.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/09/15/politics/investigation-charlie-kirk-killing-wwk


Yes we know he was radicalized by leftist gaming goons online and possibly in person friend groups.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Tyler Robinson is a radicalized leftist and yet another violent, pro-trans, assassin:

https://www.ngocomment.com/p/unmasking-luna-charlie-kirk-assassin


Think of what could have been if he hadn’t been twisted and abused by far right extremism. If only he had been allowed to become who he was.

We need to investigate all of the these religious cults.


Are you claiming he did not live up to his full extreme left potential? Maybe could have murdered more innocents for their right wing beliefs?


Nick Fuentes has repeatedly attacked Charlie Kirk—called him a neocon, globalist, and fascist. MAGA needs to accept there's a decent likelihood the shooter was influenced by that, or by Loomer's attacks, and not some made-up pro-trans ideology they've concocted.


Lol

You’re still hoping your Alt Right killing Alt Right for not being Alt Right enough for you to gloat over, is still a thing.

What a waste of space.


Seems more relevant than ever. Investigators are pointing to gaming and internet subculture for source of radicalization. Cox and Patel have loosely called that leftwing. We’ve seen no real evidence yet.


R u a bot?

You’re still hoping your Alt Right killing Alt Right for not being Alt Right enough for you to gloat over, is still a thing.

What a waste of space.


"Still, investigators have pointed to gaming and “dark internet” culture as potential factors that allegedly radicalized him based on information from family, friends, and acquaintances.

“Clearly, there was a lot of gaming going on, friends that have confirmed that there was kind of that deep, dark internet, Reddit culture and these other dark places of the internet where this person was going deep. You saw that on the casings … the meme-ification that is happening in our society today,” the Republican governor told NBC News, referencing the messages engraved on bullet casings in a rifle found near the deadly shooting.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/09/15/politics/investigation-charlie-kirk-killing-wwk


I use Reddit. I’m in the deep dark bowls of the internet.


That is the point, there are some trashy sub-reddits, but that isn't what investigators are talking about, and the governor and talking heads are not sophisticated enough in this space to articulate it properly.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Tyler Robinson is a radicalized leftist and yet another violent, pro-trans, assassin:

https://www.ngocomment.com/p/unmasking-luna-charlie-kirk-assassin


Think of what could have been if he hadn’t been twisted and abused by far right extremism. If only he had been allowed to become who he was.

We need to investigate all of the these religious cults.


Are you claiming he did not live up to his full extreme left potential? Maybe could have murdered more innocents for their right wing beliefs?


Nick Fuentes has repeatedly attacked Charlie Kirk—called him a neocon, globalist, and fascist. MAGA needs to accept there's a decent likelihood the shooter was influenced by that, or by Loomer's attacks, and not some made-up pro-trans ideology they've concocted.


Lol

You’re still hoping your Alt Right killing Alt Right for not being Alt Right enough for you to gloat over, is still a thing.

What a waste of space.


Seems more relevant than ever. Investigators are pointing to gaming and internet subculture for source of radicalization. Cox and Patel have loosely called that leftwing. We’ve seen no real evidence yet.


R u a bot?

You’re still hoping your Alt Right killing Alt Right for not being Alt Right enough for you to gloat over, is still a thing.

What a waste of space.


"Still, investigators have pointed to gaming and “dark internet” culture as potential factors that allegedly radicalized him based on information from family, friends, and acquaintances.

“Clearly, there was a lot of gaming going on, friends that have confirmed that there was kind of that deep, dark internet, Reddit culture and these other dark places of the internet where this person was going deep. You saw that on the casings … the meme-ification that is happening in our society today,” the Republican governor told NBC News, referencing the messages engraved on bullet casings in a rifle found near the deadly shooting.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/09/15/politics/investigation-charlie-kirk-killing-wwk


I use Reddit. I’m in the deep dark bowls of the internet.


Reddit, I think maybe used to have that reputation 12+ years ago. But now it’s mainstream and people use it for fantasy football and parenting advice. The age of the user base has grown up and some of the worst sub-Reddit’s have been permanently banned. (Which of course means that they’ve found homes elsewhere, but Reddit is fairly normal these days).
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So the shooter had a boyfriend who was transitioning M->F.

Do I have that correct? It's all over the news.


It looks like there's not actually proof that it's his boyfriend or that he's MtF. But if there's actual evidence out there, I would honestly like to see it.


All MAGA has is a blurry instragram post of the roommate donning an anime costume begetting a furrie, which would put them in the AltRight, not the left.


The FBI has confirmed it. They have questioned/are questioning the roommate. So I’m pretty sure they aren’t wrong.


The FBI is being run by partisan hacks now who have a vested interest in stocking the misinformation, so take it all with a grain of salt.


Their neighbors confirmed it. Saw the boy boy couple holding hands and kissing in their walks.


Who cares.

A person killed another person. If the killer is not declares mentally ill, he will go to jail. If he is, he will go to an insane asylum. The end. Nothing else me to care about. In the meanwhile I don't need to care about any of it, the justice system has its job and I will focus on my own life.

Agree. Who cares. A trans woman being Lance and Tyler could have been working for Kirk. They may have even been a couple. Or this is all false. It doesn’t mean Robinson killed Kirk.


And they’re from Mars!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Tyler Robinson is a radicalized leftist and yet another violent, pro-trans, assassin:

https://www.ngocomment.com/p/unmasking-luna-charlie-kirk-assassin


Think of what could have been if he hadn’t been twisted and abused by far right extremism. If only he had been allowed to become who he was.

We need to investigate all of the these religious cults.


Are you claiming he did not live up to his full extreme left potential? Maybe could have murdered more innocents for their right wing beliefs?


Nick Fuentes has repeatedly attacked Charlie Kirk—called him a neocon, globalist, and fascist. MAGA needs to accept there's a decent likelihood the shooter was influenced by that, or by Loomer's attacks, and not some made-up pro-trans ideology they've concocted.


Lol

You’re still hoping your Alt Right killing Alt Right for not being Alt Right enough for you to gloat over, is still a thing.

What a waste of space.


Seems more relevant than ever. Investigators are pointing to gaming and internet subculture for source of radicalization. Cox and Patel have loosely called that leftwing. We’ve seen no real evidence yet.


R u a bot?

You’re still hoping your Alt Right killing Alt Right for not being Alt Right enough for you to gloat over, is still a thing.

What a waste of space.


"Still, investigators have pointed to gaming and “dark internet” culture as potential factors that allegedly radicalized him based on information from family, friends, and acquaintances.

“Clearly, there was a lot of gaming going on, friends that have confirmed that there was kind of that deep, dark internet, Reddit culture and these other dark places of the internet where this person was going deep. You saw that on the casings … the meme-ification that is happening in our society today,” the Republican governor told NBC News, referencing the messages engraved on bullet casings in a rifle found near the deadly shooting.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/09/15/politics/investigation-charlie-kirk-killing-wwk


I use Reddit. I’m in the deep dark bowls of the internet.


That is the point, there are some trashy sub-reddits, but that isn't what investigators are talking about, and the governor and talking heads are not sophisticated enough in this space to articulate it properly.


Patel has botched everything and fired field workers, so not a shock.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Tyler Robinson is a radicalized leftist and yet another violent, pro-trans, assassin:

https://www.ngocomment.com/p/unmasking-luna-charlie-kirk-assassin


Think of what could have been if he hadn’t been twisted and abused by far right extremism. If only he had been allowed to become who he was.

We need to investigate all of the these religious cults.


Are you claiming he did not live up to his full extreme left potential? Maybe could have murdered more innocents for their right wing beliefs?


Nick Fuentes has repeatedly attacked Charlie Kirk—called him a neocon, globalist, and fascist. MAGA needs to accept there's a decent likelihood the shooter was influenced by that, or by Loomer's attacks, and not some made-up pro-trans ideology they've concocted.


Lol

You’re still hoping your Alt Right killing Alt Right for not being Alt Right enough for you to gloat over, is still a thing.

What a waste of space.


Seems more relevant than ever. Investigators are pointing to gaming and internet subculture for source of radicalization. Cox and Patel have loosely called that leftwing. We’ve seen no real evidence yet.


R u a bot?

You’re still hoping your Alt Right killing Alt Right for not being Alt Right enough for you to gloat over, is still a thing.

What a waste of space.


"Still, investigators have pointed to gaming and “dark internet” culture as potential factors that allegedly radicalized him based on information from family, friends, and acquaintances.

“Clearly, there was a lot of gaming going on, friends that have confirmed that there was kind of that deep, dark internet, Reddit culture and these other dark places of the internet where this person was going deep. You saw that on the casings … the meme-ification that is happening in our society today,” the Republican governor told NBC News, referencing the messages engraved on bullet casings in a rifle found near the deadly shooting.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/09/15/politics/investigation-charlie-kirk-killing-wwk


I use Reddit. I’m in the deep dark bowls of the internet.


Someone on another thread posted this and I think it’s a good read if you really want to know what the deep parts of the internet look like.

https://www.propublica.org/series/the-rise-and-fall-of-terrorgram
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Tyler Robinson is a radicalized leftist and yet another violent, pro-trans, assassin:

https://www.ngocomment.com/p/unmasking-luna-charlie-kirk-assassin


Think of what could have been if he hadn’t been twisted and abused by far right extremism. If only he had been allowed to become who he was.

We need to investigate all of the these religious cults.


Are you claiming he did not live up to his full extreme left potential? Maybe could have murdered more innocents for their right wing beliefs?


Nick Fuentes has repeatedly attacked Charlie Kirk—called him a neocon, globalist, and fascist. MAGA needs to accept there's a decent likelihood the shooter was influenced by that, or by Loomer's attacks, and not some made-up pro-trans ideology they've concocted.


Lol

You’re still hoping your Alt Right killing Alt Right for not being Alt Right enough for you to gloat over, is still a thing.

What a waste of space.


Seems more relevant than ever. Investigators are pointing to gaming and internet subculture for source of radicalization. Cox and Patel have loosely called that leftwing. We’ve seen no real evidence yet.


R u a bot?

You’re still hoping your Alt Right killing Alt Right for not being Alt Right enough for you to gloat over, is still a thing.

What a waste of space.


"Still, investigators have pointed to gaming and “dark internet” culture as potential factors that allegedly radicalized him based on information from family, friends, and acquaintances.

“Clearly, there was a lot of gaming going on, friends that have confirmed that there was kind of that deep, dark internet, Reddit culture and these other dark places of the internet where this person was going deep. You saw that on the casings … the meme-ification that is happening in our society today,” the Republican governor told NBC News, referencing the messages engraved on bullet casings in a rifle found near the deadly shooting.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/09/15/politics/investigation-charlie-kirk-killing-wwk


Yes we know he was radicalized by leftist gaming goons online and possibly in person friend groups.


may want to check facts, friend:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/feb/14/how-far-right-uses-video-games-tech-lure-radicalise-teenage-recruits-white-supremacists

https://www.npr.org/2018/11/05/660642531/right-wing-hate-groups-are-recruiting-video-gamers

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-07-15/alt-right-groups-video-games-radicalising-young-men-extremism/101212494

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2025/jul/31/far-right-extremists-games-platforms-radicalise-teenagers-report

https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/gaming-violence-white-nationalists-online-b2051956.html

these are tip of the iceberg. There are mountains of academic journals documenting the phenomenon. Ask me how I know.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Welcome to Trump’s America, where they fire Karen Attiah and Matthew Dowd for pointing out Charlie Kirk’s right-wing extremism and applaud Brian Kilmeade for suggesting we murder the homeless.


And demands the medical records of transgender youth...



Too bad the parents of minors still can’t access their own gender dysphoria kid’s mental and medical records.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Tucker Carlson just took a jab at Bibi exploiting Kirk’s death.



Oh the irony saying that to JD Palantir while JD is quite literally hosting Kirk’s show and using government assets so he and his grifter wife Usha could get some photo ops with Kirk’s casket and his grieving widow. Ghouls.
post reply Forum Index » Political Discussion
Message Quick Reply
Go to: