Antizionism is not antisemitism/the current conflict

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Anonymous wrote:If Ivanka Trump divorced and then married a nonjew, had more kids, these news kids would be Jews and have rights to Israel?

Yes, but Palestinians have no right of return. So go figure, it’s all about being an only-Jewish country.

Her kids with a gentile wouldn’t be ethically jewish, she’s not even ethically jewish. You can’t change ethnicity. Can one become Native American or Inuit?

No one is saying you have to be ethnically Jewish to be an Israeli citizen (would you prefer if that were the case? I’m not understanding your point). You don’t even have to be Jewish at all to be an Israeli citizen. Again, 20% of Israeli citizens are not Jewish.

It’s absurd to me that one day, one of Ivanka Trump’s descendants could become the leader of Israel.

It’s absurd to you because you completely pulled it out of your a$$.

Not for nothing but there’s about a zero percent chance of a Jew becoming President in America because of deep, ingrained antisemitism. When leftists caught even the slightest whiff of the fact that Josh Shapiro might be the VP pick, they threw a fit and screamed “Zionist!!” At anyone who would listen

The equivalent of Ivanka Trump could potentially become leader of the Jewish Holy Land. So much for having ancestral ties to Israel. If Ivanka Trump is a Jew anyone is a jew.

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Anonymous wrote:If Ivanka Trump divorced and then married a nonjew, had more kids, these news kids would be Jews and have rights to Israel?

Yes, but Palestinians have no right of return. So go figure, it’s all about being an only-Jewish country.

Her kids with a gentile wouldn’t be ethically jewish, she’s not even ethically jewish. You can’t change ethnicity. Can one become Native American or Inuit?

No one is saying you have to be ethnically Jewish to be an Israeli citizen (would you prefer if that were the case? I’m not understanding your point). You don’t even have to be Jewish at all to be an Israeli citizen. Again, 20% of Israeli citizens are not Jewish.

It’s absurd to me that one day, one of Ivanka Trump’s descendants could become the leader of Israel.

It’s absurd to you because you completely pulled it out of your a$$.

Not for nothing but there’s about a zero percent chance of a Jew becoming President in America because of deep, ingrained antisemitism. When leftists caught even the slightest whiff of the fact that Josh Shapiro might be the VP pick, they threw a fit and screamed “Zionist!!” At anyone who would listen

I mean Josh Shapiro could transition to becoming a gentile and become POTUS.

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Anonymous wrote:If Ivanka Trump divorced and then married a nonjew, had more kids, these news kids would be Jews and have rights to Israel?

Yes, but Palestinians have no right of return. So go figure, it’s all about being an only-Jewish country.

Her kids with a gentile wouldn’t be ethically jewish, she’s not even ethically jewish. You can’t change ethnicity. Can one become Native American or Inuit?

No one is saying you have to be ethnically Jewish to be an Israeli citizen (would you prefer if that were the case? I’m not understanding your point). You don’t even have to be Jewish at all to be an Israeli citizen. Again, 20% of Israeli citizens are not Jewish.

It’s absurd to me that one day, one of Ivanka Trump’s descendants could become the leader of Israel.

It’s absurd to you because you completely pulled it out of your a$$.

Not for nothing but there’s about a zero percent chance of a Jew becoming President in America because of deep, ingrained antisemitism. When leftists caught even the slightest whiff of the fact that Josh Shapiro might be the VP pick, they threw a fit and screamed “Zionist!!” At anyone who would listen

The equivalent of Ivanka Trump could potentially become leader of the Jewish Holy Land. So much for having ancestral ties to Israel. If Ivanka Trump is a Jew anyone is a jew.

I’m not getting why you’re so butthurt about the fact that a convert to Judaism can live (or speculatively serve in a leadership position) in Israel lol.

If Israel said “you have to be ethnically Jewish to immigrate to Israel or hold office” you’d accuse them of being racist. Israel says “you don’t have to ethnically Jewish to immigrate to Israel or hold office” so you…also accuse them of being racist? Which is it. Sort yourself out.

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Anonymous wrote:If Ivanka Trump divorced and then married a nonjew, had more kids, these news kids would be Jews and have rights to Israel?

Yes, but Palestinians have no right of return. So go figure, it’s all about being an only-Jewish country.

Her kids with a gentile wouldn’t be ethically jewish, she’s not even ethically jewish. You can’t change ethnicity. Can one become Native American or Inuit?

No one is saying you have to be ethnically Jewish to be an Israeli citizen (would you prefer if that were the case? I’m not understanding your point). You don’t even have to be Jewish at all to be an Israeli citizen. Again, 20% of Israeli citizens are not Jewish.

It’s absurd to me that one day, one of Ivanka Trump’s descendants could become the leader of Israel.

It’s absurd to you because you completely pulled it out of your a$$.

Not for nothing but there’s about a zero percent chance of a Jew becoming President in America because of deep, ingrained antisemitism. When leftists caught even the slightest whiff of the fact that Josh Shapiro might be the VP pick, they threw a fit and screamed “Zionist!!” At anyone who would listen

The equivalent of Ivanka Trump could potentially become leader of the Jewish Holy Land. So much for having ancestral ties to Israel. If Ivanka Trump is a Jew anyone is a jew.

I’m not getting why you’re so butthurt about the fact that a convert to Judaism can live (or speculatively serve in a leadership position) in Israel lol.

If Israel said “you have to be ethnically Jewish to immigrate to Israel or hold office” you’d accuse them of being racist. Israel says “you don’t have to ethnically Jewish to immigrate to Israel or hold office” so you…also accuse them of being racist? Which is it. Sort yourself out.

The selling point of Israel is that it’s the ancestral home of the Jews and also somewhat of a safe haven for Holocaust survivors/families. Ivanka Trump is as Jewish as Josh Shapiro is gentile. I don’t care what arbitrary rules you are following.

[Anonymous]

Either Israel is the ancestral home of the Jews or it isn’t. Or only for a few? For the actual ethnic jews it is, but who are these people in reality? Ivanka for sure ain’t one.

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Anonymous wrote:If Ivanka Trump divorced and then married a nonjew, had more kids, these news kids would be Jews and have rights to Israel?

Yes, but Palestinians have no right of return. So go figure, it’s all about being an only-Jewish country.

Her kids with a gentile wouldn’t be ethically jewish, she’s not even ethically jewish. You can’t change ethnicity. Can one become Native American or Inuit?

No one is saying you have to be ethnically Jewish to be an Israeli citizen (would you prefer if that were the case? I’m not understanding your point). You don’t even have to be Jewish at all to be an Israeli citizen. Again, 20% of Israeli citizens are not Jewish.

It’s absurd to me that one day, one of Ivanka Trump’s descendants could become the leader of Israel.

It’s absurd to you because you completely pulled it out of your a$$.

Not for nothing but there’s about a zero percent chance of a Jew becoming President in America because of deep, ingrained antisemitism. When leftists caught even the slightest whiff of the fact that Josh Shapiro might be the VP pick, they threw a fit and screamed “Zionist!!” At anyone who would listen

The equivalent of Ivanka Trump could potentially become leader of the Jewish Holy Land. So much for having ancestral ties to Israel. If Ivanka Trump is a Jew anyone is a jew.

I’m not getting why you’re so butthurt about the fact that a convert to Judaism can live (or speculatively serve in a leadership position) in Israel lol.

If Israel said “you have to be ethnically Jewish to immigrate to Israel or hold office” you’d accuse them of being racist. Israel says “you don’t have to ethnically Jewish to immigrate to Israel or hold office” so you…also accuse them of being racist? Which is it. Sort yourself out.

Just admit that this is nonsense.

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Anonymous wrote:If Ivanka Trump divorced and then married a nonjew, had more kids, these news kids would be Jews and have rights to Israel?

Yes, but Palestinians have no right of return. So go figure, it’s all about being an only-Jewish country.

Her kids with a gentile wouldn’t be ethically jewish, she’s not even ethically jewish. You can’t change ethnicity. Can one become Native American or Inuit?

No one is saying you have to be ethnically Jewish to be an Israeli citizen (would you prefer if that were the case? I’m not understanding your point). You don’t even have to be Jewish at all to be an Israeli citizen. Again, 20% of Israeli citizens are not Jewish.

It’s absurd to me that one day, one of Ivanka Trump’s descendants could become the leader of Israel.

It’s absurd to you because you completely pulled it out of your a$$.

Not for nothing but there’s about a zero percent chance of a Jew becoming President in America because of deep, ingrained antisemitism. When leftists caught even the slightest whiff of the fact that Josh Shapiro might be the VP pick, they threw a fit and screamed “Zionist!!” At anyone who would listen

The equivalent of Ivanka Trump could potentially become leader of the Jewish Holy Land. So much for having ancestral ties to Israel. If Ivanka Trump is a Jew anyone is a jew.

I’m not getting why you’re so butthurt about the fact that a convert to Judaism can live (or speculatively serve in a leadership position) in Israel lol.

If Israel said “you have to be ethnically Jewish to immigrate to Israel or hold office” you’d accuse them of being racist. Israel says “you don’t have to ethnically Jewish to immigrate to Israel or hold office” so you…also accuse them of being racist? Which is it. Sort yourself out.

Just admit that this is nonsense.

It’s The Emperor’s New Clothes

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Anonymous wrote:If Ivanka Trump divorced and then married a nonjew, had more kids, these news kids would be Jews and have rights to Israel?

Yes, but Palestinians have no right of return. So go figure, it’s all about being an only-Jewish country.

Her kids with a gentile wouldn’t be ethically jewish, she’s not even ethically jewish. You can’t change ethnicity. Can one become Native American or Inuit?

No one is saying you have to be ethnically Jewish to be an Israeli citizen (would you prefer if that were the case? I’m not understanding your point). You don’t even have to be Jewish at all to be an Israeli citizen. Again, 20% of Israeli citizens are not Jewish.

It’s absurd to me that one day, one of Ivanka Trump’s descendants could become the leader of Israel.

It’s absurd to you because you completely pulled it out of your a$$.

Not for nothing but there’s about a zero percent chance of a Jew becoming President in America because of deep, ingrained antisemitism. When leftists caught even the slightest whiff of the fact that Josh Shapiro might be the VP pick, they threw a fit and screamed “Zionist!!” At anyone who would listen

The equivalent of Ivanka Trump could potentially become leader of the Jewish Holy Land. So much for having ancestral ties to Israel. If Ivanka Trump is a Jew anyone is a jew.

I’m not getting why you’re so butthurt about the fact that a convert to Judaism can live (or speculatively serve in a leadership position) in Israel lol.

If Israel said “you have to be ethnically Jewish to immigrate to Israel or hold office” you’d accuse them of being racist. Israel says “you don’t have to ethnically Jewish to immigrate to Israel or hold office” so you…also accuse them of being racist? Which is it. Sort yourself out.

Just admit that this is nonsense.

Just admit you can’t actually respond to my argument.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If Ivanka Trump divorced and then married a nonjew, had more kids, these news kids would be Jews and have rights to Israel?

Yes, but Palestinians have no right of return. So go figure, it’s all about being an only-Jewish country.

Her kids with a gentile wouldn’t be ethically jewish, she’s not even ethically jewish. You can’t change ethnicity. Can one become Native American or Inuit?

No one is saying you have to be ethnically Jewish to be an Israeli citizen (would you prefer if that were the case? I’m not understanding your point). You don’t even have to be Jewish at all to be an Israeli citizen. Again, 20% of Israeli citizens are not Jewish.

It’s absurd to me that one day, one of Ivanka Trump’s descendants could become the leader of Israel.

It’s absurd to you because you completely pulled it out of your a$$.

Not for nothing but there’s about a zero percent chance of a Jew becoming President in America because of deep, ingrained antisemitism. When leftists caught even the slightest whiff of the fact that Josh Shapiro might be the VP pick, they threw a fit and screamed “Zionist!!” At anyone who would listen

The equivalent of Ivanka Trump could potentially become leader of the Jewish Holy Land. So much for having ancestral ties to Israel. If Ivanka Trump is a Jew anyone is a jew.

I’m not getting why you’re so butthurt about the fact that a convert to Judaism can live (or speculatively serve in a leadership position) in Israel lol.

If Israel said “you have to be ethnically Jewish to immigrate to Israel or hold office” you’d accuse them of being racist. Israel says “you don’t have to ethnically Jewish to immigrate to Israel or hold office” so you…also accuse them of being racist? Which is it. Sort yourself out.

I am not accusing Israel of being racist, I am accusing them of selling themselves as the Ancestral Home of the Jews, when people like Ivanka Trump are jews. I’m not even sure what this is. I don’t care if the Jewish religion calls converts real Jews, ethnically they are not and will never be same as Jews will never be gentiles. It is an ethnicity or it isn’t, both can’t be true.

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Anonymous wrote:If Ivanka Trump divorced and then married a nonjew, had more kids, these news kids would be Jews and have rights to Israel?

Yes, but Palestinians have no right of return. So go figure, it’s all about being an only-Jewish country.

Her kids with a gentile wouldn’t be ethically jewish, she’s not even ethically jewish. You can’t change ethnicity. Can one become Native American or Inuit?

No one is saying you have to be ethnically Jewish to be an Israeli citizen (would you prefer if that were the case? I’m not understanding your point). You don’t even have to be Jewish at all to be an Israeli citizen. Again, 20% of Israeli citizens are not Jewish.

It’s absurd to me that one day, one of Ivanka Trump’s descendants could become the leader of Israel.

It’s absurd to you because you completely pulled it out of your a$$.

Not for nothing but there’s about a zero percent chance of a Jew becoming President in America because of deep, ingrained antisemitism. When leftists caught even the slightest whiff of the fact that Josh Shapiro might be the VP pick, they threw a fit and screamed “Zionist!!” At anyone who would listen

The equivalent of Ivanka Trump could potentially become leader of the Jewish Holy Land. So much for having ancestral ties to Israel. If Ivanka Trump is a Jew anyone is a jew.

I’m not getting why you’re so butthurt about the fact that a convert to Judaism can live (or speculatively serve in a leadership position) in Israel lol.

If Israel said “you have to be ethnically Jewish to immigrate to Israel or hold office” you’d accuse them of being racist. Israel says “you don’t have to ethnically Jewish to immigrate to Israel or hold office” so you…also accuse them of being racist? Which is it. Sort yourself out.

The selling point of Israel is that it’s the ancestral home of the Jews and also somewhat of a safe haven for Holocaust survivors/families. Ivanka Trump is as Jewish as Josh Shapiro is gentile. I don’t care what arbitrary rules you are following.

You are conflating two ideas and confusing yourself.

Israel is where Judaism originated. Because Judaism is not a proselytizing religion and conversion INTO Judaism has been historically quite rare, most Jews have distant ancestral ties to Israel. That’s just an indisputable historical fact. It’s also one of the reasons why, when early zionists were searching for a place to call home, they thought Israel made sense.

Separately, the modern state of Israel is intended to be a safe haven for Jews fleeing/seeking to avoid persecution. All kinds of Jews and all kinds persecution. A convert to Judaism cannot travel freely or exist safely in many countries, including most Muslim-majority countries. Therefore, Israel exists as a refuge for them as well.

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Anonymous wrote:If Ivanka Trump divorced and then married a nonjew, had more kids, these news kids would be Jews and have rights to Israel?

Yes, but Palestinians have no right of return. So go figure, it’s all about being an only-Jewish country.

Her kids with a gentile wouldn’t be ethically jewish, she’s not even ethically jewish. You can’t change ethnicity. Can one become Native American or Inuit?

No one is saying you have to be ethnically Jewish to be an Israeli citizen (would you prefer if that were the case? I’m not understanding your point). You don’t even have to be Jewish at all to be an Israeli citizen. Again, 20% of Israeli citizens are not Jewish.

It’s absurd to me that one day, one of Ivanka Trump’s descendants could become the leader of Israel.

It’s absurd to you because you completely pulled it out of your a$$.

Not for nothing but there’s about a zero percent chance of a Jew becoming President in America because of deep, ingrained antisemitism. When leftists caught even the slightest whiff of the fact that Josh Shapiro might be the VP pick, they threw a fit and screamed “Zionist!!” At anyone who would listen

The equivalent of Ivanka Trump could potentially become leader of the Jewish Holy Land. So much for having ancestral ties to Israel. If Ivanka Trump is a Jew anyone is a jew.

I’m not getting why you’re so butthurt about the fact that a convert to Judaism can live (or speculatively serve in a leadership position) in Israel lol.

If Israel said “you have to be ethnically Jewish to immigrate to Israel or hold office” you’d accuse them of being racist. Israel says “you don’t have to ethnically Jewish to immigrate to Israel or hold office” so you…also accuse them of being racist? Which is it. Sort yourself out.

I am not accusing Israel of being racist, I am accusing them of selling themselves as the Ancestral Home of the Jews, when people like Ivanka Trump are jews. I’m not even sure what this is. I don’t care if the Jewish religion calls converts real Jews, ethnically they are not and will never be same as Jews will never be gentiles. It is an ethnicity or it isn’t, both can’t be true.

“ethnically they are not and will never be same as Jews.” Ok, so we agree that Jews are an ethnoreligion. What’s the problem here. That Israel is also accepting of converts despite their ethnicity?

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Anonymous wrote:If Ivanka Trump divorced and then married a nonjew, had more kids, these news kids would be Jews and have rights to Israel?

Yes, but Palestinians have no right of return. So go figure, it’s all about being an only-Jewish country.

Her kids with a gentile wouldn’t be ethically jewish, she’s not even ethically jewish. You can’t change ethnicity. Can one become Native American or Inuit?

No one is saying you have to be ethnically Jewish to be an Israeli citizen (would you prefer if that were the case? I’m not understanding your point). You don’t even have to be Jewish at all to be an Israeli citizen. Again, 20% of Israeli citizens are not Jewish.

It’s absurd to me that one day, one of Ivanka Trump’s descendants could become the leader of Israel.

It’s absurd to you because you completely pulled it out of your a$$.

Not for nothing but there’s about a zero percent chance of a Jew becoming President in America because of deep, ingrained antisemitism. When leftists caught even the slightest whiff of the fact that Josh Shapiro might be the VP pick, they threw a fit and screamed “Zionist!!” At anyone who would listen

The equivalent of Ivanka Trump could potentially become leader of the Jewish Holy Land. So much for having ancestral ties to Israel. If Ivanka Trump is a Jew anyone is a jew.

I’m not getting why you’re so butthurt about the fact that a convert to Judaism can live (or speculatively serve in a leadership position) in Israel lol.

If Israel said “you have to be ethnically Jewish to immigrate to Israel or hold office” you’d accuse them of being racist. Israel says “you don’t have to ethnically Jewish to immigrate to Israel or hold office” so you…also accuse them of being racist? Which is it. Sort yourself out.

I am not accusing Israel of being racist, I am accusing them of selling themselves as the Ancestral Home of the Jews, when people like Ivanka Trump are jews. I’m not even sure what this is. I don’t care if the Jewish religion calls converts real Jews, ethnically they are not and will never be same as Jews will never be gentiles. It is an ethnicity or it isn’t, both can’t be true.

“ethnically they are not and will never be same as Jews.” Ok, so we agree that Jews are an ethnoreligion. What’s the problem here. That Israel is also accepting of converts despite their ethnicity?

I guess yes, I have an issue with an Ivanka Trump claiming that she is the same as an ethnic jew. I have a problem with her claiming Israel as her homeland. It minimizes true ethnic jews experience and history. It seems dismissive or dishonest. It’s like becoming Native American, like you either are or you’re not, you can’t become any other ethnicity as far as I know. There’s no gray area.

[Anonymous]

The Jewish ethnicity seems so tied into the religion that I don’t see how anyone could possibly convert. I would feel like such a fraud.

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Anonymous wrote:If Ivanka Trump divorced and then married a nonjew, had more kids, these news kids would be Jews and have rights to Israel?

Yes, but Palestinians have no right of return. So go figure, it’s all about being an only-Jewish country.

Her kids with a gentile wouldn’t be ethically jewish, she’s not even ethically jewish. You can’t change ethnicity. Can one become Native American or Inuit?

No one is saying you have to be ethnically Jewish to be an Israeli citizen (would you prefer if that were the case? I’m not understanding your point). You don’t even have to be Jewish at all to be an Israeli citizen. Again, 20% of Israeli citizens are not Jewish.

It’s absurd to me that one day, one of Ivanka Trump’s descendants could become the leader of Israel.

It’s absurd to you because you completely pulled it out of your a$$.

Not for nothing but there’s about a zero percent chance of a Jew becoming President in America because of deep, ingrained antisemitism. When leftists caught even the slightest whiff of the fact that Josh Shapiro might be the VP pick, they threw a fit and screamed “Zionist!!” At anyone who would listen

The equivalent of Ivanka Trump could potentially become leader of the Jewish Holy Land. So much for having ancestral ties to Israel. If Ivanka Trump is a Jew anyone is a jew.

I’m not getting why you’re so butthurt about the fact that a convert to Judaism can live (or speculatively serve in a leadership position) in Israel lol.

If Israel said “you have to be ethnically Jewish to immigrate to Israel or hold office” you’d accuse them of being racist. Israel says “you don’t have to ethnically Jewish to immigrate to Israel or hold office” so you…also accuse them of being racist? Which is it. Sort yourself out.

I am not accusing Israel of being racist, I am accusing them of selling themselves as the Ancestral Home of the Jews, when people like Ivanka Trump are jews. I’m not even sure what this is. I don’t care if the Jewish religion calls converts real Jews, ethnically they are not and will never be same as Jews will never be gentiles. It is an ethnicity or it isn’t, both can’t be true.

“ethnically they are not and will never be same as Jews.” Ok, so we agree that Jews are an ethnoreligion. What’s the problem here. That Israel is also accepting of converts despite their ethnicity?

I guess yes, I have an issue with an Ivanka Trump claiming that she is the same as an ethnic jew. I have a problem with her claiming Israel as her homeland. It minimizes true ethnic jews experience and history. It seems dismissive or dishonest. It’s like becoming Native American, like you either are or you’re not, you can’t become any other ethnicity as far as I know. There’s no gray area.

I don’t think she has ever claimed she is the same as an ethnic Jew or claimed Israel is her homeland. Pretty sure you invented that in your head because you want to have something to attack Israel for.

The concept of a Jewish homeland is so triggering to antisemites/antizionists for some reason. Palestinians also claim it is their homeland and I don’t question that. Both things can be true.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The Jewish ethnicity seems so tied into the religion that I don’t see how anyone could possibly convert. I would feel like such a fraud.

Ok so don’t convert? I can assure you if you did convert, though, my community would be very welcoming and treat you with nothing but warmth and respect.