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Anonymous wrote:47 pages seems to indicate a lot of unhappy parents but of course with 10,000 teams, there will be good and bad,,,seems like a LOT of bad tho

We get it. You don't love your experience with Valor. Move on to a different club if you're child is able to make any other clubs' teams instead of sitting in a Valor thread dumping on the whole club.

I don't even have a kid at Valor. I am just marveling at how many people seem to loathe it. They really do a good job pissing people off. No other club has this many complaints on here.

Why are you sitting in here 'marveling' then? You trolls are so unimaginative these days. The mass m same haters troll around revolution and valor conversations and I find that telling that they'd rather crap all over her clubs than focus on, let's be honest it's almost always LS, they own club and players.

You think parents from Loudoun soccer are posting fake stories on here about other clubs? Why? So even more kids try out for Loudoun and compete for their kid's spot?

LS parents and staff are notoriously vindictive and Petty. LOL.

Why do make questions? Work so slow for you today, eh? 🧌🧌🧌

they would have to be complete morons to try to get more competition trying out for their kids spot. your theory is nonsensical.

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Anonymous wrote:47 pages seems to indicate a lot of unhappy parents but of course with 10,000 teams, there will be good and bad,,,seems like a LOT of bad tho

We get it. You don't love your experience with Valor. Move on to a different club if you're child is able to make any other clubs' teams instead of sitting in a Valor thread dumping on the whole club.

I don't even have a kid at Valor. I am just marveling at how many people seem to loathe it. They really do a good job pissing people off. No other club has this many complaints on here.

Why are you sitting in here 'marveling' then? You trolls are so unimaginative these days. The mass m same haters troll around revolution and valor conversations and I find that telling that they'd rather crap all over her clubs than focus on, let's be honest it's almost always LS, they own club and players.

You think parents from Loudoun soccer are posting fake stories on here about other clubs? Why? So even more kids try out for Loudoun and compete for their kid's spot?

LS parents and staff are notoriously vindictive and Petty. LOL.

Why do make questions? Work so slow for you today, eh? 🧌🧌🧌

Don't mean man to trolls. This person is a sea lion. Just ignore them and they'll go harass another topic.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sealioning

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Anonymous wrote:How many of the 2011 Valor Gold girls are following their coach to SYC?

3

Heard 6, and there beat girl is likely going to an ECNL club

This board is clueless.

Until next season no one will know how many are leaving. We can only go off of what we hear from other players and some dont share what they are going to do next season.

Only 1-2 players from there lowest 4th team went on to U10 last year. No one else returned. Going to 9x9 next year, there is little confidence in anyone moving up in that club. Today, they only have two teams in U11 which are in the 2nd and 6th Div. That means they will need to create the 9x9, 3rd and 4th teams which will likely be in the lowest division because they will try to fill those seats with last years U10, 7x7 roster from 4th/5th teams if they choose to stay. I would bet the performance would be next to none. Not much of a good outlook IMO.

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Anonymous wrote:Because the coaches will stop coaching kids who are leaving (play time, at practice, etc) and people paid for the spring season.

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We had a coach tell us that is makes it hard for him to play kids knowing they are leaving the club.

We have also seen it with other kids that announced they were leaving. Less play time. These coaches are petty AF.

It "makes it hard for him"? What a dipwad.

His pride makes it hard for him not to be a petty AH and hurt the time to make sure parents know it's not okay to leave. NM that you paid for 10 months of soccer...

Very true. The coaches have a-lot of ego.

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Anonymous wrote:How many of the 2011 Valor Gold girls are following their coach to SYC?

3

Heard 6, and there beat girl is likely going to an ECNL club

This board is clueless.

Until next season no one will know how many are leaving. We can only go off of what we hear from other players and some dont share what they are going to do next season.

Only 1-2 players from there lowest 4th team went on to U10 last year. No one else returned. Going to 9x9 next year, there is little confidence in anyone moving up in that club. Today, they only have two teams in U11 which are in the 2nd and 6th Div. That means they will need to create the 9x9, 3rd and 4th teams which will likely be in the lowest division because they will try to fill those seats with last years U10, 7x7 roster from 4th/5th teams if they choose to stay. I would bet the performance would be next to none. Not much of a good outlook IMO.

Why are you replying to a comment about 2011 Girls, who are U13, with what looks to be information on U10 girls?

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Anonymous wrote:Because the coaches will stop coaching kids who are leaving (play time, at practice, etc) and people paid for the spring season.

Agree, the coaches in evil. Lots of nepotism already regardless of clear player improvement. Lots of talk and no action.

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Anonymous wrote:How many of the 2011 Valor Gold girls are following their coach to SYC?

3

Heard 6, and there beat girl is likely going to an ECNL club

Confirm 6? Not a chance. 3 I believe. 6 is wishful thinking of parents looking to have their kids replace players on the team.

It sounds like the standard Valor practice is to add players from outside of the club to the open gold slots, so the white and black parents shouldn't get their hopes up.

They do this for there two top teams or keep they're 4th/5th team rosters full as feeders.

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Anonymous wrote:How many of the 2011 Valor Gold girls are following their coach to SYC?

3

Heard 6, and there beat girl is likely going to an ECNL club

This board is clueless.

Until next season no one will know how many are leaving. We can only go off of what we hear from other players and some dont share what they are going to do next season.

Only 1-2 players from there lowest 4th team went on to U10 last year. No one else returned. Going to 9x9 next year, there is little confidence in anyone moving up in that club. Today, they only have two teams in U11 which are in the 2nd and 6th Div. That means they will need to create the 9x9, 3rd and 4th teams which will likely be in the lowest division because they will try to fill those seats with last years U10, 7x7 roster from 4th/5th teams if they choose to stay. I would bet the performance would be next to none. Not much of a good outlook IMO.

You must be talking about Boys rising U11. Girls will have 3 teams for 9v9, which will be confirmed when coaches are announced shortly. I anticipate many of the Gold and White players are returning, not sure about Black or Silver. For this current year, most of the u9s Girls stayed with the team into U10s. I believe there were more new players than Girls who left. I anticipate it will be the same for this year.

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Anonymous wrote:We are at a nearby club and have had multiple Valor kids show up and practice with our ds's team this year. Two in the fall, two different kids this spring. That seems like a lot from the same place.

What team did they play for? Silver? Blue? The team matters; maybe there isn’t any movement to a higher team.

If they are all gold players from same team….

IDing is smart and free... especially if you're trying to get on a higher team.

A few kids looking is standard. Loudoun and fcv hemorrhaged players this winter to the point of pulling rec kids up to fill spots. That's not happening at Valor.

It's a money grab at low level teams for sure; Valor coaching style is much better than other local programs. As someone said already you can plow through competition with a couple really good players when they are young. Very few clubs are working on actual field play moving into 9v9 and 11v11, which at least I've seen happening at Valor.

There isn't any movement from 4th and 5th teams even if you kids is better than 2nd or 3rd level team players. Looking at last years teams that were not first, second or third teams, only 2 moved up and the rest of the parents left. Doesn't say much for opportunity. Valor will even sub players from higher level teams to win games.

This is the case at every club in the area. I've heard of two kids moving up to first and second team from 4th teams and they are amazing and threatened to go to other clubs before being moved up that high. This isn't just a valor problem. 90% of the time you have to leave your club to make higher teams no matter how good they are.

I agree. Seems to be the direction needed in order to look out for your kids equity. It’s unfortunate you have defend, poke or attempt to open any dialog with no resolve. I think for all parents here its best to hold on tightly to the purse strings even after the season before committing to any team that doesn't fit neatly into your kids level of play. They always have openings.

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Anonymous wrote:47 pages seems to indicate a lot of unhappy parents but of course with 10,000 teams, there will be good and bad,,,seems like a LOT of bad tho

Well you have to factor in that a couple of people may be posting repeatedly because they're really unhappy. This isn't like Yelp where you can see reviewers' usernames.

The unhappy parents I know at Valor are parents of kids on the lowest teams. They're in a bit of denial that maybe their kid doesn't have the athletic ability or work ethic for a higher team. Some of them are at another club that has played Valor's lowest team, and they have tied that team at least once. That tells me the kids who left Valor were in fact on the correct team.

Multiple people have posted here saying they switched clubs or bailed on tryouts and their kid made a much higher team than what they were offered at Valor.

Yes, both things can be true. It sounds like there is almost 100% turnover on their lower (3rd, 4th, 5th) teams every year due to bad coaching, bad teammates, bad training, lack of attention from the club, etc. Or just plain losing every game-that's no fun for kids. Then they fill up the lower teams with a fresh round of kids from rec programs or outside orgs. Then those teams have another year of bad coaching etc etc, then everyone leave again. If they have paying customers on the black team, and no space on the higher teams, they will gamble that those parents will pay for the black team again, and not move a kid up even if he is good enough to bump out a current higher player. That kid's family gets disgruntled, and goes and tries out and makes a higher team.

I agree whole heartedly on every-word. Just bumping this up for you again to the top.

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Anonymous wrote:They are a good regional club and as with most clubs you will find positive/negatives. They are a result of CYA and SYA merging a few years ago. If you live in the Chantilly, Centreville, Fairfax, or Dulles (Loudoun) area this is a good medium size club. They do feed into NVA with Loudoun so there is a pathway to national league for the younger kids. Older kids, NVA teams are mostly established so they may add 1-2 players a season.

Its a huge club, not medium sized, what crack are you smoking? They have age groups with 5 teams. Teams 3-Teams 5 are just money grabs. Those kids should be playing rec.

Agree, mostly recreation. They're are 2-3 players that are always arguably pretty good out of the litter that demonstrate some promise however Valor wouldn’t now because they don't perform any real evaluation. More subjective comments.

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Anonymous wrote:47 pages seems to indicate a lot of unhappy parents but of course with 10,000 teams, there will be good and bad,,,seems like a LOT of bad tho

Well you have to factor in that a couple of people may be posting repeatedly because they're really unhappy. This isn't like Yelp where you can see reviewers' usernames.

The unhappy parents I know at Valor are parents of kids on the lowest teams. They're in a bit of denial that maybe their kid doesn't have the athletic ability or work ethic for a higher team. Some of them are at another club that has played Valor's lowest team, and they have tied that team at least once. That tells me the kids who left Valor were in fact on the correct team.

All of the people posting on here?? Thats not my interpretation at all from the comments. Seems very informative with some incite.

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Anonymous wrote:One of our kids does valor and is on the 2nd tier team. A few of the kids from our team moved up to the first tier team (the gold). It seems that all you need to do is ask and they will give your kid a shot at it. We like the 2nd tier team. Our coach is really nice and knowledgeable and our kid plays other sports so we are not interested in gold. If you kid if on gold then you pretty much have to make soccer the top priority. Gold is intense. The cost is 3k per year. It's steep but that is pretty much the cost of a travel sport. The coache,s seem professional and we haven't had any issues. There are a few parents that may be delusional that think their kid is the next Ronaldo and have left but overall our experience has been positive. I will also add that we are pretty experienced with multiple travel sports and this is our youngest kid. Some of the parents we encountered in travel sports are jerks and are delusional about their kids abilities.

I understand your comfortable, but do you think your kid is good enough to be on gold or playing for that higher level team? If yes, whats your rationale? Whats the difference in terms of commitment from level 1 and 2 teams?

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My daughter is currently playing for a DI college, but she was on the 5th team of a local cup in U9. She moved up to 2nd at U10 and stayed there until U12. The point of the story is for all of you to stop worrying about how many teams a club carries because there will always be a few players that are late bloomers that if they had not been given a spot on a lower team they may never have played or been motivated to grind.

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Anonymous wrote:47 pages seems to indicate a lot of unhappy parents but of course with 10,000 teams, there will be good and bad,,,seems like a LOT of bad tho

We get it. You don't love your experience with Valor. Move on to a different club if you're child is able to make any other clubs' teams instead of sitting in a Valor thread dumping on the whole club.

It must be the overall leadership and over promising of the club. This is supposed to be travel soccer (best of the best type s***) but has become expensive recreation in the end. Result of no standards or expectations set in place. I think the comments in this thread speak to that and its easy to dismiss the issue when you may have never experienced it. JMO