Physicians Assistant yelling “HELP ME” while stealing a CitiBike ?

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Anonymous wrote:Looks like her employer put her on leave. I'm sure they are doing their own deep analysis of the situation/video. Luckily, they, not DCUM, get to decide her fate!

I'm one of the people defending her on here and one reason I have done so is because I want to create some kind of record of people being rational about what actually happens in the video (not what people think happened based on some incendiary caption of the video in a tweet or in a local news story, but what actually happens) in the hopes that this will in some way help her, because I think she is innocent and I think it would be really awful for her to lose her job midway through her pregnancy because some kids bullied her off a bike share and then an internet mob got involved and ruined her reputation.

Like that would just be a really dumb outcome for this situation and I hope it doesn't happen.

She’ll move to a red state where they will be happy to have her. So NYV will lose a well-trained medical professional who has dedicated her career to working in one of the highest need safety net hospitals in the country (Bellevue). Contrast that to Roxane Gay who has literally done nothing real to help anyone, ever. This woman has likely done more to help poor BIPOC in one day than the salivating keyboard warriors calling her a racist Karen have done in their entire lives.

I don’t necessarily agree with the first sentence but otherwise I do agree, Bellevue is a high-needs provider and at least some of the professionals on staff are really making some significant sacrifices and are helping underserved BIPOC for sure. There’s an internal medicine specialist there that is renowned and helped spearhead some city initiatives to improve diet and lifestyle that I’ve long admired. Who knows what her actual job performance is? The presumption that it must be bad and racist is so absurd. On topic, I do think this woman was wiped out and just mad as hell at the end of her shift and it was a stroke of catastrophically bad luck that she encountered this small group who were at the ready to record her and get their way.

I don’t think any of the people here villainizing her would have done much better in these circs. Who knows.

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It is actually pretty easy for me to imagine that this scenario would play out in almost the exact same way even if all the people in the video were black (including the woman and the bystander) or they were all white. People are imposing racial dynamics on it that sound plausible if you just describe the scenario, but don't really seem to be present in the video itself. And I say that after having been primed to view the video as evidence of racial bias. It's just not there.

If you can't see the white woman's appeal to authority/feigned helplessness as racially charged, then I just don't know what to tell you.

We live in a world in which racist white women can level all sorts of claims against Black men and boys, and be believed inherently. White women are taught that tears solve everything, that society will protect them, and that "big Black men (boys)" are scary. She could get someone killed behaving like that.

MAYBE if the black boys here didn’t want to make someone upset to the extend they cslled for help, they shouldn’t have surrounded a pregnant woman, tried to physically block her from the unrented bike she was sitting on, called her fetus the r-word, all while filming it for the internet.

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Anonymous wrote:JFC people. You don't rent the bike by sitting on it. You rent it through the app. It wasn't her bike, he rented it first fair and square. Was he gallant, sweeping his hat off and saying "why of course, milady, the bike is yours, may I lay my riding cape down on this puddle that you might not soil the tires as you leave?" No. But he was in the right and she was throwing a hissy fit. It was on her to deal with her frustration, recognize that he legitimately rented the bike first, and move on like a grown-ass adult.

He rents it 20 seconds into the video, after she'd already sat on the bike. You might not rent a bike by sitting on it, but it's weird to rent a bike that someone else is sitting on. She had a right to be upset.

Renting a bike someone has sat down on and is preparing to rent is obviously antagonistic. She should have, though, recognized these guys were messing with her because they are immature teens.

Also I think a lot of people still don’t understand how these bikes work and are still convinced she sat down on a bike he had already rented.

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Anonymous wrote:JFC people. You don't rent the bike by sitting on it. You rent it through the app. It wasn't her bike, he rented it first fair and square. Was he gallant, sweeping his hat off and saying "why of course, milady, the bike is yours, may I lay my riding cape down on this puddle that you might not soil the tires as you leave?" No. But he was in the right and she was throwing a hissy fit. It was on her to deal with her frustration, recognize that he legitimately rented the bike first, and move on like a grown-ass adult.

He rents it 20 seconds into the video, after she'd already sat on the bike. You might not rent a bike by sitting on it, but it's weird to rent a bike that someone else is sitting on. She had a right to be upset.

She had a right to be upset. She did not have a right to sit on the bike screaming "help me!" and fake crying (I've seen the video and to me, that was 100% fake). Be annoyed, sure, but sometimes things in life annoy you. He rented it before she did, in an annoying way. Move on, like a grown up.

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Anonymous wrote:JFC people. You don't rent the bike by sitting on it. You rent it through the app. It wasn't her bike, he rented it first fair and square. Was he gallant, sweeping his hat off and saying "why of course, milady, the bike is yours, may I lay my riding cape down on this puddle that you might not soil the tires as you leave?" No. But he was in the right and she was throwing a hissy fit. It was on her to deal with her frustration, recognize that he legitimately rented the bike first, and move on like a grown-ass adult.

So you think it’s OK to physically lean over someone *already sitting on the unrented bike* to rent it? I’ve been using Citibikes a long time and I would be shocked and upset if someone did that.

It's kind of a dick move, but if she wanted it, she should've scanned it first. And her reaction to that dick move was way out of line.

It’s not a “dick move.” It’s extremely anti-social and bound to make the person sitting on the bike really pissed off. I agree with the PP upthread who said the kid would *never* have tried that on a big man (of any race). Some 6-4 dude would have physically pushed him away at a minimum. She yelled.

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Anonymous wrote:Looks like her employer put her on leave. I'm sure they are doing their own deep analysis of the situation/video. Luckily, they, not DCUM, get to decide her fate!

I'm one of the people defending her on here and one reason I have done so is because I want to create some kind of record of people being rational about what actually happens in the video (not what people think happened based on some incendiary caption of the video in a tweet or in a local news story, but what actually happens) in the hopes that this will in some way help her, because I think she is innocent and I think it would be really awful for her to lose her job midway through her pregnancy because some kids bullied her off a bike share and then an internet mob got involved and ruined her reputation.

Like that would just be a really dumb outcome for this situation and I hope it doesn't happen.

She’ll move to a red state where they will be happy to have her. So NYV will lose a well-trained medical professional who has dedicated her career to working in one of the highest need safety net hospitals in the country (Bellevue). Contrast that to Roxane Gay who has literally done nothing real to help anyone, ever. This woman has likely done more to help poor BIPOC in one day than the salivating keyboard warriors calling her a racist Karen have done in their entire lives.

I don’t necessarily agree with the first sentence but otherwise I do agree, Bellevue is a high-needs provider and at least some of the professionals on staff are really making some significant sacrifices and are helping underserved BIPOC for sure. There’s an internal medicine specialist there that is renowned and helped spearhead some city initiatives to improve diet and lifestyle that I’ve long admired. Who knows what her actual job performance is? The presumption that it must be bad and racist is so absurd. On topic, I do think this woman was wiped out and just mad as hell at the end of her shift and it was a stroke of catastrophically bad luck that she encountered this small group who were at the ready to record her and get their way.

I don’t think any of the people here villainizing her would have done much better in these circs. Who knows.

+1

It is actually pretty easy for me to imagine that this scenario would play out in almost the exact same way even if all the people in the video were black (including the woman and the bystander) or they were all white. People are imposing racial dynamics on it that sound plausible if you just describe the scenario, but don't really seem to be present in the video itself. And I say that after having been primed to view the video as evidence of racial bias. It's just not there.

If you can't see the white woman's appeal to authority/feigned helplessness as racially charged, then I just don't know what to tell you.

We live in a world in which racist white women can level all sorts of claims against Black men and boys, and be believed inherently. White women are taught that tears solve everything, that society will protect them, and that "big Black men (boys)" are scary. She could get someone killed behaving like that.

MAYBE if the black boys here didn’t want to make someone upset to the extend they cslled for help, they shouldn’t have surrounded a pregnant woman, tried to physically block her from the unrented bike she was sitting on, called her fetus the r-word, all while filming it for the internet.

I doubt she said "ok, I understand that you have technically rented this bike before me, I will now leave calmly" and they surrounded her and started shouting out of nowhere. She was frustrated and acted like a child, refusing to get off the bike that SHE HAD NOT RENTED.

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Anonymous wrote:JFC people. You don't rent the bike by sitting on it. You rent it through the app. It wasn't her bike, he rented it first fair and square. Was he gallant, sweeping his hat off and saying "why of course, milady, the bike is yours, may I lay my riding cape down on this puddle that you might not soil the tires as you leave?" No. But he was in the right and she was throwing a hissy fit. It was on her to deal with her frustration, recognize that he legitimately rented the bike first, and move on like a grown-ass adult.

He rents it 20 seconds into the video, after she'd already sat on the bike. You might not rent a bike by sitting on it, but it's weird to rent a bike that someone else is sitting on. She had a right to be upset.

She had a right to be upset. She did not have a right to sit on the bike screaming "help me!" and fake crying (I've seen the video and to me, that was 100% fake). Be annoyed, sure, but sometimes things in life annoy you. He rented it before she did, in an annoying way. Move on, like a grown up.

So she deserves to get fired because you subjectively perceive her emotion to be fake?

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Anonymous wrote:JFC people. You don't rent the bike by sitting on it. You rent it through the app. It wasn't her bike, he rented it first fair and square. Was he gallant, sweeping his hat off and saying "why of course, milady, the bike is yours, may I lay my riding cape down on this puddle that you might not soil the tires as you leave?" No. But he was in the right and she was throwing a hissy fit. It was on her to deal with her frustration, recognize that he legitimately rented the bike first, and move on like a grown-ass adult.

He rents it 20 seconds into the video, after she'd already sat on the bike. You might not rent a bike by sitting on it, but it's weird to rent a bike that someone else is sitting on. She had a right to be upset.

Renting a bike someone has sat down on and is preparing to rent is obviously antagonistic. She should have, though, recognized these guys were messing with her because they are immature teens.

The video is 90 second long, and at the end she gets of the bike. So she does, ultimately realize that she is dealign with immature teens and moves on with her life.

What if the thousands of people online who have since called this woman a white supremacist and a liar, claimed she's faking her pregnancy, accused her of bias in her medical practice, and dozens of other absolute insane and unsupported accusations ALSO recognized that these guys are immature teens who were messing with a tired pregnant woman?

Like it took her about a minute to figure out what was going on and walk away from the situation. The internet is still trying to get her fired several days later. Who needs to wise up here, exactly?

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Anonymous wrote:Looks like her employer put her on leave. I'm sure they are doing their own deep analysis of the situation/video. Luckily, they, not DCUM, get to decide her fate!

I'm one of the people defending her on here and one reason I have done so is because I want to create some kind of record of people being rational about what actually happens in the video (not what people think happened based on some incendiary caption of the video in a tweet or in a local news story, but what actually happens) in the hopes that this will in some way help her, because I think she is innocent and I think it would be really awful for her to lose her job midway through her pregnancy because some kids bullied her off a bike share and then an internet mob got involved and ruined her reputation.

Like that would just be a really dumb outcome for this situation and I hope it doesn't happen.

She’ll move to a red state where they will be happy to have her. So NYV will lose a well-trained medical professional who has dedicated her career to working in one of the highest need safety net hospitals in the country (Bellevue). Contrast that to Roxane Gay who has literally done nothing real to help anyone, ever. This woman has likely done more to help poor BIPOC in one day than the salivating keyboard warriors calling her a racist Karen have done in their entire lives.

I don’t necessarily agree with the first sentence but otherwise I do agree, Bellevue is a high-needs provider and at least some of the professionals on staff are really making some significant sacrifices and are helping underserved BIPOC for sure. There’s an internal medicine specialist there that is renowned and helped spearhead some city initiatives to improve diet and lifestyle that I’ve long admired. Who knows what her actual job performance is? The presumption that it must be bad and racist is so absurd. On topic, I do think this woman was wiped out and just mad as hell at the end of her shift and it was a stroke of catastrophically bad luck that she encountered this small group who were at the ready to record her and get their way.

I don’t think any of the people here villainizing her would have done much better in these circs. Who knows.

+1

It is actually pretty easy for me to imagine that this scenario would play out in almost the exact same way even if all the people in the video were black (including the woman and the bystander) or they were all white. People are imposing racial dynamics on it that sound plausible if you just describe the scenario, but don't really seem to be present in the video itself. And I say that after having been primed to view the video as evidence of racial bias. It's just not there.

If you can't see the white woman's appeal to authority/feigned helplessness as racially charged, then I just don't know what to tell you.

We live in a world in which racist white women can level all sorts of claims against Black men and boys, and be believed inherently. White women are taught that tears solve everything, that society will protect them, and that "big Black men (boys)" are scary. She could get someone killed behaving like that.

MAYBE if the black boys here didn’t want to make someone upset to the extend they cslled for help, they shouldn’t have surrounded a pregnant woman, tried to physically block her from the unrented bike she was sitting on, called her fetus the r-word, all while filming it for the internet.

I doubt she said "ok, I understand that you have technically rented this bike before me, I will now leave calmly" and they surrounded her and started shouting out of nowhere. She was frustrated and acted like a child, refusing to get off the bike that SHE HAD NOT RENTED.

They surrounded at her and started jeering and filming while she was sitting on the bike, before he had rented it.

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Anonymous wrote:JFC people. You don't rent the bike by sitting on it. You rent it through the app. It wasn't her bike, he rented it first fair and square. Was he gallant, sweeping his hat off and saying "why of course, milady, the bike is yours, may I lay my riding cape down on this puddle that you might not soil the tires as you leave?" No. But he was in the right and she was throwing a hissy fit. It was on her to deal with her frustration, recognize that he legitimately rented the bike first, and move on like a grown-ass adult.

He had not rented the bike. The video is clear. You hear the “chunk” and chime of it unlocking 20 seconds in.

You’re editorializing with your sarcasm and presenting that as factual. The actual recorded facts invalidate what you claim in your post.

She hadn't rented it either. So what if he rented it 20 seconds into the video? He still rented it first. She just sat on it, which gains her nothing, because that's not how you rent things.

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Anonymous wrote:Looks like her employer put her on leave. I'm sure they are doing their own deep analysis of the situation/video. Luckily, they, not DCUM, get to decide her fate!

I'm one of the people defending her on here and one reason I have done so is because I want to create some kind of record of people being rational about what actually happens in the video (not what people think happened based on some incendiary caption of the video in a tweet or in a local news story, but what actually happens) in the hopes that this will in some way help her, because I think she is innocent and I think it would be really awful for her to lose her job midway through her pregnancy because some kids bullied her off a bike share and then an internet mob got involved and ruined her reputation.

Like that would just be a really dumb outcome for this situation and I hope it doesn't happen.

She’ll move to a red state where they will be happy to have her. So NYV will lose a well-trained medical professional who has dedicated her career to working in one of the highest need safety net hospitals in the country (Bellevue). Contrast that to Roxane Gay who has literally done nothing real to help anyone, ever. This woman has likely done more to help poor BIPOC in one day than the salivating keyboard warriors calling her a racist Karen have done in their entire lives.

I don’t necessarily agree with the first sentence but otherwise I do agree, Bellevue is a high-needs provider and at least some of the professionals on staff are really making some significant sacrifices and are helping underserved BIPOC for sure. There’s an internal medicine specialist there that is renowned and helped spearhead some city initiatives to improve diet and lifestyle that I’ve long admired. Who knows what her actual job performance is? The presumption that it must be bad and racist is so absurd. On topic, I do think this woman was wiped out and just mad as hell at the end of her shift and it was a stroke of catastrophically bad luck that she encountered this small group who were at the ready to record her and get their way.

I don’t think any of the people here villainizing her would have done much better in these circs. Who knows.

+1

It is actually pretty easy for me to imagine that this scenario would play out in almost the exact same way even if all the people in the video were black (including the woman and the bystander) or they were all white. People are imposing racial dynamics on it that sound plausible if you just describe the scenario, but don't really seem to be present in the video itself. And I say that after having been primed to view the video as evidence of racial bias. It's just not there.

If you can't see the white woman's appeal to authority/feigned helplessness as racially charged, then I just don't know what to tell you.

We live in a world in which racist white women can level all sorts of claims against Black men and boys, and be believed inherently. White women are taught that tears solve everything, that society will protect them, and that "big Black men (boys)" are scary. She could get someone killed behaving like that.

MAYBE if the black boys here didn’t want to make someone upset to the extend they cslled for help, they shouldn’t have surrounded a pregnant woman, tried to physically block her from the unrented bike she was sitting on, called her fetus the r-word, all while filming it for the internet.

I doubt she said "ok, I understand that you have technically rented this bike before me, I will now leave calmly" and they surrounded her and started shouting out of nowhere. She was frustrated and acted like a child, refusing to get off the bike that SHE HAD NOT RENTED.

They surrounded at her and started jeering and filming while she was sitting on the bike, before he had rented it.

She hadn't rented it either. Why not?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:JFC people. You don't rent the bike by sitting on it. You rent it through the app. It wasn't her bike, he rented it first fair and square. Was he gallant, sweeping his hat off and saying "why of course, milady, the bike is yours, may I lay my riding cape down on this puddle that you might not soil the tires as you leave?" No. But he was in the right and she was throwing a hissy fit. It was on her to deal with her frustration, recognize that he legitimately rented the bike first, and move on like a grown-ass adult.

He rents it 20 seconds into the video, after she'd already sat on the bike. You might not rent a bike by sitting on it, but it's weird to rent a bike that someone else is sitting on. She had a right to be upset.

Renting a bike someone has sat down on and is preparing to rent is obviously antagonistic. She should have, though, recognized these guys were messing with her because they are immature teens.

The video is 90 second long, and at the end she gets of the bike. So she does, ultimately realize that she is dealign with immature teens and moves on with her life.

What if the thousands of people online who have since called this woman a white supremacist and a liar, claimed she's faking her pregnancy, accused her of bias in her medical practice, and dozens of other absolute insane and unsupported accusations ALSO recognized that these guys are immature teens who were messing with a tired pregnant woman?

Like it took her about a minute to figure out what was going on and walk away from the situation. The internet is still trying to get her fired several days later. Who needs to wise up here, exactly?

The internet is the a$$hole here, definitely. But she is not the wronged party, nor is she a victim.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:JFC people. You don't rent the bike by sitting on it. You rent it through the app. It wasn't her bike, he rented it first fair and square. Was he gallant, sweeping his hat off and saying "why of course, milady, the bike is yours, may I lay my riding cape down on this puddle that you might not soil the tires as you leave?" No. But he was in the right and she was throwing a hissy fit. It was on her to deal with her frustration, recognize that he legitimately rented the bike first, and move on like a grown-ass adult.

He rents it 20 seconds into the video, after she'd already sat on the bike. You might not rent a bike by sitting on it, but it's weird to rent a bike that someone else is sitting on. She had a right to be upset.

She had a right to be upset. She did not have a right to sit on the bike screaming "help me!" and fake crying (I've seen the video and to me, that was 100% fake). Be annoyed, sure, but sometimes things in life annoy you. He rented it before she did, in an annoying way. Move on, like a grown up.

What does "100% fake" even mean in this context? She's annoyed, she calls for help and looks upset. Where is the fake? What is she faking?

In order for her to be faking it, she needs to be pretending something is happening that is not happening. But what's happening is this kid is pushing her off a bike she was about to rent while his friends laugh and film her, and she is responding to that with upset and frustration.

Where is the "fake"? What is she faking?

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Anonymous wrote:JFC people. You don't rent the bike by sitting on it. You rent it through the app. It wasn't her bike, he rented it first fair and square. Was he gallant, sweeping his hat off and saying "why of course, milady, the bike is yours, may I lay my riding cape down on this puddle that you might not soil the tires as you leave?" No. But he was in the right and she was throwing a hissy fit. It was on her to deal with her frustration, recognize that he legitimately rented the bike first, and move on like a grown-ass adult.

He had not rented the bike. The video is clear. You hear the “chunk” and chime of it unlocking 20 seconds in.

You’re editorializing with your sarcasm and presenting that as factual. The actual recorded facts invalidate what you claim in your post.

She hadn't rented it either. So what if he rented it 20 seconds into the video? He still rented it first. She just sat on it, which gains her nothing, because that's not how you rent things.

True, we do not know how she came to be sitting on the bike. We do know she was sitting on it before it was rented, and he somehow rented it while she was on it.

If you’re trying to claim it is normal and acceptable to rent a citibike *while someone else is sitting on it* I don’t know what to tell you.

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Anonymous wrote:JFC people. You don't rent the bike by sitting on it. You rent it through the app. It wasn't her bike, he rented it first fair and square. Was he gallant, sweeping his hat off and saying "why of course, milady, the bike is yours, may I lay my riding cape down on this puddle that you might not soil the tires as you leave?" No. But he was in the right and she was throwing a hissy fit. It was on her to deal with her frustration, recognize that he legitimately rented the bike first, and move on like a grown-ass adult.

He rents it 20 seconds into the video, after she'd already sat on the bike. You might not rent a bike by sitting on it, but it's weird to rent a bike that someone else is sitting on. She had a right to be upset.

Renting a bike someone has sat down on and is preparing to rent is obviously antagonistic. She should have, though, recognized these guys were messing with her because they are immature teens.

The video is 90 second long, and at the end she gets of the bike. So she does, ultimately realize that she is dealign with immature teens and moves on with her life.

What if the thousands of people online who have since called this woman a white supremacist and a liar, claimed she's faking her pregnancy, accused her of bias in her medical practice, and dozens of other absolute insane and unsupported accusations ALSO recognized that these guys are immature teens who were messing with a tired pregnant woman?

Like it took her about a minute to figure out what was going on and walk away from the situation. The internet is still trying to get her fired several days later. Who needs to wise up here, exactly?

The internet is the a$$hole here, definitely. But she is not the wronged party, nor is she a victim.

She's been doxxed, placed on administrative review, and the internet is calling for her to be investigated for racial bias in her work and/or fired.

She is absolutely a wronged party and victim.

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Anonymous wrote:JFC people. You don't rent the bike by sitting on it. You rent it through the app. It wasn't her bike, he rented it first fair and square. Was he gallant, sweeping his hat off and saying "why of course, milady, the bike is yours, may I lay my riding cape down on this puddle that you might not soil the tires as you leave?" No. But he was in the right and she was throwing a hissy fit. It was on her to deal with her frustration, recognize that he legitimately rented the bike first, and move on like a grown-ass adult.

He rents it 20 seconds into the video, after she'd already sat on the bike. You might not rent a bike by sitting on it, but it's weird to rent a bike that someone else is sitting on. She had a right to be upset.

She had a right to be upset. She did not have a right to sit on the bike screaming "help me!" and fake crying (I've seen the video and to me, that was 100% fake). Be annoyed, sure, but sometimes things in life annoy you. He rented it before she did, in an annoying way. Move on, like a grown up.

So she deserves to get fired because you subjectively perceive her emotion to be fake?

Hey, you dropped your strawman.

No, I don't think she deserves to be fired. She acted immaturely and inappropriately, and was in the wrong, but I don't think that's a fire-able offense.

But don't fake cry, or real cry, for sympathy. Argue that doing so isn't racist all you want. It is, but even if it wasn't racist, it's gross.