3 children dead in private Christian elementary school shooting in TN

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Anonymous wrote:Next they'll post stats about Switzerland which, yes, has high gun ownership and ALSO regulates gun ownership way more than the US and requires everyone to take a gun class and pass a test, for which all of age men are required to join the military, so 1/4 guns are owned specifically because of being in the military rather than to simply have a showy Christmas card, and simply having a possible violent attitude can exempt you from owning a gun, gun sellers can consult psychiatrists if they have a concern before selling, and on and on....

Then that shows that mental health needs to be taken care of.

I am a left leaning independent and FULLY support mental health assessments before gun purchases. The GOP will froth about mental health, but will never support that, so..... .

Wonder if the left would froth if we started putting the mentally ill away - those that the state declared mentally ill (no room for abuse there….)

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Anonymous wrote:Locked doors and attending private school will bot protect your kids from gun violence. Sorry private school parents.

But they can hire their own armed security.

Imagine a church with armed security. Couldn’t they just pray for God’s protection? Or maybe they don’t really believe deep down that God will save them?

I think you might be surprised at how many churches have parishioners who conceal carry.
And, clergy who do the same.
My church does. And, we have a local Sheriff who makes visits to 3 churches in our area every Sunday. In uniform. For security.

Surprised that christians are hypocrites? Yeah right!

Hypocrites? How?
Because they know that "gun free zones" are ripe for being targets?
Because they take measures to protect their congregation?
Please elaborate.

Yeah, armed church patrol just screams trust in God's plan

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Anonymous wrote:Children die for the 2nd Amendment. The GOP has decided to sacrifice our young for men to pretend to be the punisher.

We have their thoughts and prayers. Doesn't that stop bullets or do they just call fake news when children actually die?

Idiot. Blame the shooter, please.

I blame the shooter and the easy access to weapons.

I blame the shooter and the easy access to weapons, especially assault-style rifles which make it even easier to shoot more people efficiently.

This past week in my hometown, I saw a man with a gun on his hip coming out of a restaurant. No problems, peaceful. Same week, another man robbed a local grocery store at gunpoint and took the police on a chase with girlfriend and baby in the car. Care to guess who'd more likely to own the legal gun? I wonder what would have happened if peaceful gun-owner was in the store at the same time that robber was there. He surely would have noticed the gun on peaceful man's hip. Would he have committed the crime as a result?

This is complete BS. Gun ownership has done absolutely nothing to curb crime in America. IMAGINE whatever you like but the fact remains that despite our much higher gun ownership rates, our per capita crime rates are higher than in most of the parts of the civilized world that has much tougher gun restrictions than the US.

It actually has. I posted an article earlier in the thread

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Anonymous wrote:I'm not going to respond to posts about the shooter was transgender because there previous 2000 shooters were not transgender and it's completely irrelevant.

This.

I think any medications taken by ANY AND ALL shooters are relevant and should be public knowledge.

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Anonymous wrote:Nothing to see here. Probably had too many doors and too little God at that Christian school.

Thoughts and prayers, but certainly no actionable changes needed.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/crime/nashville-school-shooting-green-hills-b2308856.html

Just stop.

Such a hateful statement.
Thankfully, the shooter is dead. Pray for the children and the families.

OP here. I am a mother of two elementary school students and I am fed up with "thoughts and prayers" and no action every time I see another school shooting.

So unless you have something more productive to offer than "pray" (FYI, I'm an atheist, so no, I won't), you stop please. Stop and offer potential solutions that aren't prayers and more doors.

That is evident from your first sentence.

I am a Christian and you can honestly STFU.

RWNJ so-called "Christians" with their gun worship are the problem here. They put guns before children. And then they have the audacity to talk about the personal relationships with Jesus and whatnot. They would shoot Jesus and call him a socialist b*stard.

So save your BS.

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Anonymous wrote:Gun control does not work.

Hardening the schools is a better, and more feasible measure.

This is the dumbest take.

We’ve never tried gun control; the mouth breathers are opposed. So maybe let’s try gun control first.

This is on you, evidently, as a reliable Republican voter. It’s not just the six dead; it’s all the other students left traumatized. Alllll the staff. All the surviving family members. It’s massive, massive trauma and you seem content to see it:

Your take is stupid.

- DC banned guns for decades (until the S.Ct. slapped down their constitutional violation) and crime was way higher back then (gun control doesn’t work).

- California and NY have extremely strict gun control and crime is only going up in both states.

Gun control doesn’t work (and is not constitutionally feasible anyway).

The smart move is to harden our schools, now.

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All it takes is leadership. Period. The GOP is beholden to the NRA. That is pretty much the difference between the US and everywhere else.

It’s important to note that the NRA is funded via Russia. The GOP is beholden to Russia via the NRA.

Source?

https://www.npr.org/2019/09/27/764879242/nra-was-foreign-asset-to-russia-ahead-of-2016-new-senate-report-reveals
https://www.politico.com/amp/story/2018/04/11/nra-russia-money-guns-516804
https://about.bgov.com/news/russia-meddling-uproar-worsens-as-probe-of-nras-role-is-dropped/
https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-campaigns-gun-politics-election-2020-lawsuits-949361ea529ea37139f401a64c7fa362

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It's not just the f-ing schools people. Mass shootings are everywhere. Ugh, how many times must we point this out?

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Anonymous wrote:Gun control does not work.

Hardening the schools is a better, and more feasible measure.

This is the dumbest take.

We’ve never tried gun control; the mouth breathers are opposed. So maybe let’s try gun control first.

This is on you, evidently, as a reliable Republican voter. It’s not just the six dead; it’s all the other students left traumatized. Alllll the staff. All the surviving family members. It’s massive, massive trauma and you seem content to see it:

Your take is stupid.

- DC banned guns for decades (until the S.Ct. slapped down their constitutional violation) and crime was way higher back then (gun control doesn’t work).

- California and NY have extremely strict gun control and crime is only going up in both states.

Gun control doesn’t work (and is not constitutionally feasible anyway).

The smart move is to harden our schools, now.

Hi!

1) it's not just schools
2) look, research from the BMJ! See the difference between those two lines and the direction they are going in at the end?

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This is so dumb. I went to MSD post-columbine. We had a police officer LIVING ON SCHOOL GROUNDS. To the left of the front of the school was a portable trailer where a designated police officer lived. LIVED! It was his house. He had a pick up truck parked in front! We all know how well that worked out.

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Anonymous wrote:Children die for the 2nd Amendment. The GOP has decided to sacrifice our young for men to pretend to be the punisher.

We have their thoughts and prayers. Doesn't that stop bullets or do they just call fake news when children actually die?

Per the perusal of Foxnews comments every time something like this happens, it's:

-That we don't have enough armed guards at schools ("lots of retired veterans would be happy to guard schools!") ignoring that we have mass shootings with armed guards anyways, and at other locations besides schools including concerts, malls, movie theaters, workplaces, churches, and on and on
-That we don't arm teachers (most teachers don't want to be armed, I know many of them and they have enough to worry about let alone carrying a loaded gun that kids could easily get ahold of)
-That it's our lack of family values as a country/society in the USA that is to blame (specifically democratic erosion of traditional family values)... basically a "shrug, can't do nothing about that till we have better morals!" response that is useless
-We have enough gun laws, more won't do anything

blah blah blah. Conservatives have absolutely nothing helpful to say and it keeps happening and rinse and repeat.

Tbh I just pray it happens at schools filled with the kids of Republican elites. Then only way they change their tune is when it happens to them. They don’t give a f#ck about anyone else.

That said, I wish for a world with strong gun control and an absence of school shootings.

Wow. Just wow.

Yes, I am also shocked at how ghoulish the Republican elites conduct themselves. Democrats have been begging for 20 years for sensible gun reforms and the Republicans just grow more extreme, egged on by our lunatic Supreme Court.

If we are going to have a country with mass shootings, I’m going to pray that it mostly affects those who enable it to happen and block good-faith reforms. Reap what you sow, and all that.

Multiple posters on this thread have literally said they hope the dead children have Republican parents, and you're calling Republicans "ghoulish?" I've never seen/heard Republicans hoping for dead children.

They do if they are immigrant children.

You really need to shut up. The GOP has facilitated the ownership and WORSHIP of guns. They won't support gun control. They never want to support anything that costs money, so they'll never help with mental health service. They are responsible for this as much as the shooters.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm not going to respond to posts about the shooter was transgender because there previous 2000 shooters were not transgender and it's completely irrelevant.

The Colorado Springs shooter identified as non binary.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/colorado-springs-suspect-identifies-nonbinary-uses-pronounces-defense-rcna58499

The Denver shooter identified as trans.
https://www.npr.org/2021/09/17/1038339826/denver-colorado-school-shooting-life-sentence-devon-erickson

The Aberdeen shooter identified as trans.
https://www.baltimoresun.com/news/crime/bs-fe-female-shooters-trans-men-aberdeen-20180920-story.html

The Nashville shooter identified as trans.

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Was this guy born after Uvalde?

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This is so dumb. I went to MSD post-columbine. We had a police officer LIVING ON SCHOOL GROUNDS. To the left of the front of the school was a portable trailer where a designated police officer lived. LIVED! It was his house. He had a pick up truck parked in front! We all know how well that worked out.

Oh, and don't forget Florida where the armed school resource officer did jack.

They literally keep saying things over and over that don't work! Lock the doors! Armed guards!

But those failed repeatedly!

Well, shrug, guess we can't do anything! Thoughts and prayers!