2023 Boys HS lacrosse outlook

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Anonymous wrote:"Have fun playing St. James, St. Albans, Episcopal and Landon. 🥴"

I'd rather play the teams listed above than play Bishop McNamara, Ireton, O'Connell, Good Counsel, and Saint Mary's Ryken (the bottom half of the WCAC is just bad lacrosse), Wes knows he doesn't have nearly the same squad as he did last year and it shows in their schedule this Spring. Where is McDonogh or Saint Mary's?

Unfortunately those are league teams. I’d say 3 of the 5 would smoke any IAC team in football and 4 of the 5 in basketball. You got to take the good with the bad. What other sports is the IAC good in? Boys field hockey?

This is hilarious. Do better next time. Which three of those WCAC teams would smoke any IAC team in football? Remember, they often play each other and scores are easily found. Nice try though. It certainly sounded like a great post when you were typing it, I'm sure.

Didn’t even know IAC played FB. Lol Have they ever had a team recognized on the national level? Last time I remember seeing any WCAC team playing them was a few years back. Gonzaga destroyed Prep that year. Probably why the WCAC teams don’t waste their time. Little sisters of the poor.

Look, I was responding to a PP who claimed BI, Oconnell, St. Mary's Ryken, McNamara and one other bottom feeder WCAC school would smoke the IAC in football and basketball. The stats don't back that up. Nobody was trying to put the IAC on the same pedestal as the WCAC football powerhouses that have more than 2x the number of boys in the high school. Some IAC schools have less than 300 boys. They still do pretty well against the WCAC second tier. Relax, Gonzaga dad. Relax.

Alrighty mouthy IAC dad. Prove it.

Go look at the scores from last year. And the year(s) before. Surely you can use the internet. Don't be dense.

The days of trying to compare conferences ended years ago. The WCAC allows for athletic scholarships which are not need based and the IAC doesn't (largely upheld now that Bullis has a new president). SJC lacrosse has jumped on that over the last 3 years and created a competition gap. The IAC has stopped scheduling them in general bc of the imbalance and the aggressive nature of their recruiting current students. The WCAC is a National sports conference with compensated athletes and the IAC isn’t. It’s not going to get any better.

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Bullis is playing SJC this year.

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Yes, I believe this is the last year of the former president’s recruiting. They still have some kids who were given scholarships as freshman and the school kept those agreements in place. Take a look at Bullis football and basketball to a lesser degree. They are not the same from 4 years ago. There will be times when the schools match up but not nearly what it was 10 years ago. Tough to swallow for the older IAC crowd. Easy to point out to the WCAC guys.

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SJC remains #1, Bullis @2, Prep 3, Gonzaga 4, DeMatha 5

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Why would SJC remain #1 when they lost the majority of their team last year?

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, I believe this is the last year of the former president’s recruiting. They still have some kids who were given scholarships as freshman and the school kept those agreements in place. Take a look at Bullis football and basketball to a lesser degree. They are not the same from 4 years ago. There will be times when the schools match up but not nearly what it was 10 years ago. Tough to swallow for the older IAC crowd. Easy to point out to the WCAC guys.

Bullis has one of the best basketball teams in the area and the President has been gone for 3 years. Bullis football has taken a step back, but Bullis basketball has taken 2 steps forward. Currently ranked 3rd by the Washinton Post.

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The equity rankings of the post have become a joke. Bullis still has some scholarship players and that seems to be the private school way. Bullis losing to Landon should change the ranking or at least show they sent that great.

For some reason, the privates love to bring in a bunch of basketball players and coaches and call it diversity instead of entertainment. I find it weird to see mostly aa teams at mostly affluent schools and pretend it’s nothing than paid entertainment.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, I believe this is the last year of the former president’s recruiting. They still have some kids who were given scholarships as freshman and the school kept those agreements in place. Take a look at Bullis football and basketball to a lesser degree. They are not the same from 4 years ago. There will be times when the schools match up but not nearly what it was 10 years ago. Tough to swallow for the older IAC crowd. Easy to point out to the WCAC guys.

Bullis still recruits.

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The days of trying to compare conferences ended years ago. The WCAC allows for athletic scholarships which are not need based and the IAC doesn't (largely upheld now that Bullis has a new president). SJC lacrosse has jumped on that over the last 3 years and created a competition gap. The IAC has stopped scheduling them in general bc of the imbalance and the aggressive nature of their recruiting current students. The WCAC is a National sports conference with compensated athletes and the IAC isn’t. It’s not going to get any better.
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This post does have some degree of truth and merit but the WCAC teams put a much bigger emphasis on football and basketball before lacrosse.

I graduated from Gonzaga over 20 years ago, and while lacrosse is obviously a very popular sport at the school, I can assure you the greater Gonzaga community cares much more about the overall performance of their football and basketball teams. Don't get me wrong, I root for the lacrosse team, but football coaches and basketball coaches have more influence with administration and Head Priest. I suspect this manta is very similar at football powers DeMatha and St Johns - their budgets dwarf the lacrosse budgets.

In my opinion, the IAC schools, traditionally appear to put more of a focus on lacrosse. It kinda makes sense as these schools generally are 2x the tuition as the WCAC schools and as a result attract a more affluent crowd. The WCAC schools are generally 2 - 4x larger than the IAC schools and thus pull more families from a wider socio-economic background.

As it relates to lacrosse, I think everyone is going to be surprised this Spring as there is going to be a ton of parity this Spring. Don't think SJC will have nearly the season they had last spring and will come back down to reality.

When you step back and look at the landscape, it's pretty amazing to see how far this area has come for HS lacrosse through. In the 90's it was really only Landon, then St Albans, Georgetown Prep, and DeMatha started to come along. We had a varsity team at Gonzaga but it was mainly football kids playing to stay in shape and have fun. St Johns to my recollection didn't even field a team and neither did Paul VI.

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Anonymous wrote:"Have fun playing St. James, St. Albans, Episcopal and Landon. 🥴"

I'd rather play the teams listed above than play Bishop McNamara, Ireton, O'Connell, Good Counsel, and Saint Mary's Ryken (the bottom half of the WCAC is just bad lacrosse), Wes knows he doesn't have nearly the same squad as he did last year and it shows in their schedule this Spring. Where is McDonogh or Saint Mary's?

Unfortunately those are league teams. I’d say 3 of the 5 would smoke any IAC team in football and 4 of the 5 in basketball. You got to take the good with the bad. What other sports is the IAC good in? Boys field hockey?

This is hilarious. Do better next time. Which three of those WCAC teams would smoke any IAC team in football? Remember, they often play each other and scores are easily found. Nice try though. It certainly sounded like a great post when you were typing it, I'm sure.

Didn’t even know IAC played FB. Lol Have they ever had a team recognized on the national level? Last time I remember seeing any WCAC team playing them was a few years back. Gonzaga destroyed Prep that year. Probably why the WCAC teams don’t waste their time. Little sisters of the poor.

Look, I was responding to a PP who claimed BI, Oconnell, St. Mary's Ryken, McNamara and one other bottom feeder WCAC school would smoke the IAC in football and basketball. The stats don't back that up. Nobody was trying to put the IAC on the same pedestal as the WCAC football powerhouses that have more than 2x the number of boys in the high school. Some IAC schools have less than 300 boys. They still do pretty well against the WCAC second tier. Relax, Gonzaga dad. Relax.

Alrighty mouthy IAC dad. Prove it.

Go look at the scores from last year. And the year(s) before. Surely you can use the internet. Don't be dense.

The days of trying to compare conferences ended years ago. The WCAC allows for athletic scholarships which are not need based and the IAC doesn't (largely upheld now that Bullis has a new president). SJC lacrosse has jumped on that over the last 3 years and created a competition gap. The IAC has stopped scheduling them in general bc of the imbalance and the aggressive nature of their recruiting current students. The WCAC is a National sports conference with compensated athletes and the IAC isn’t. It’s not going to get any better.

Sorry to burst your bubble but the only lacrosse scholarship money being handed out at SJC and Gonzaga is need based. If you are well off your paying full boat unless you get an academic scholarship or you qualify for aid due to a lower economic status. You need to play football or basketball to get non need based aid.

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Anonymous wrote:"Have fun playing St. James, St. Albans, Episcopal and Landon. 🥴"

I'd rather play the teams listed above than play Bishop McNamara, Ireton, O'Connell, Good Counsel, and Saint Mary's Ryken (the bottom half of the WCAC is just bad lacrosse), Wes knows he doesn't have nearly the same squad as he did last year and it shows in their schedule this Spring. Where is McDonogh or Saint Mary's?

Unfortunately those are league teams. I’d say 3 of the 5 would smoke any IAC team in football and 4 of the 5 in basketball. You got to take the good with the bad. What other sports is the IAC good in? Boys field hockey?

This is hilarious. Do better next time. Which three of those WCAC teams would smoke any IAC team in football? Remember, they often play each other and scores are easily found. Nice try though. It certainly sounded like a great post when you were typing it, I'm sure.

Didn’t even know IAC played FB. Lol Have they ever had a team recognized on the national level? Last time I remember seeing any WCAC team playing them was a few years back. Gonzaga destroyed Prep that year. Probably why the WCAC teams don’t waste their time. Little sisters of the poor.

Look, I was responding to a PP who claimed BI, Oconnell, St. Mary's Ryken, McNamara and one other bottom feeder WCAC school would smoke the IAC in football and basketball. The stats don't back that up. Nobody was trying to put the IAC on the same pedestal as the WCAC football powerhouses that have more than 2x the number of boys in the high school. Some IAC schools have less than 300 boys. They still do pretty well against the WCAC second tier. Relax, Gonzaga dad. Relax.

Alrighty mouthy IAC dad. Prove it.

Go look at the scores from last year. And the year(s) before. Surely you can use the internet. Don't be dense.

The days of trying to compare conferences ended years ago. The WCAC allows for athletic scholarships which are not need based and the IAC doesn't (largely upheld now that Bullis has a new president). SJC lacrosse has jumped on that over the last 3 years and created a competition gap. The IAC has stopped scheduling them in general bc of the imbalance and the aggressive nature of their recruiting current students. The WCAC is a National sports conference with compensated athletes and the IAC isn’t. It’s not going to get any better.

Sorry to burst your bubble but the only lacrosse scholarship money being handed out at SJC and Gonzaga is need based. If you are well off your paying full boat unless you get an academic scholarship or you qualify for aid due to a lower economic status. You need to play football or basketball to get non need based aid.

Just have to laugh at posts like this. Just because the school's call it need based aid, doesn't mean that its not majority merit.

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Bullis offers the best “merit” in the area. Prep, St. John’s and Gonzaga are a distant second when it comes to aid.
If you are lucky you can live in an assistant coach’s house at Bullis or Prep.

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The days of trying to compare conferences ended years ago. The WCAC allows for athletic scholarships which are not need based and the IAC doesn't (largely upheld now that Bullis has a new president). SJC lacrosse has jumped on that over the last 3 years and created a competition gap. The IAC has stopped scheduling them in general bc of the imbalance and the aggressive nature of their recruiting current students. The WCAC is a National sports conference with compensated athletes and the IAC isn’t. It’s not going to get any better.
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This post does have some degree of truth and merit but the WCAC teams put a much bigger emphasis on football and basketball before lacrosse.

I graduated from Gonzaga over 20 years ago, and while lacrosse is obviously a very popular sport at the school, I can assure you the greater Gonzaga community cares much more about the overall performance of their football and basketball teams. Don't get me wrong, I root for the lacrosse team, but football coaches and basketball coaches have more influence with administration and Head Priest. I suspect this manta is very similar at football powers DeMatha and St Johns - their budgets dwarf the lacrosse budgets.

In my opinion, the IAC schools, traditionally appear to put more of a focus on lacrosse. It kinda makes sense as these schools generally are 2x the tuition as the WCAC schools and as a result attract a more affluent crowd. The WCAC schools are generally 2 - 4x larger than the IAC schools and thus pull more families from a wider socio-economic background.

As it relates to lacrosse, I think everyone is going to be surprised this Spring as there is going to be a ton of parity this Spring. Don't think SJC will have nearly the season they had last spring and will come back down to reality.

When you step back and look at the landscape, it's pretty amazing to see how far this area has come for HS lacrosse through. In the 90's it was really only Landon, then St Albans, Georgetown Prep, and DeMatha started to come along. We had a varsity team at Gonzaga but it was mainly football kids playing to stay in shape and have fun. St Johns to my recollection didn't even field a team and neither did Paul VI.

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Both SJC and PVI had teams in the late 80’s early 90’s. It was not like today people did not attend because of the team players just played in the spring.

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Good Counsel had a team in the 90's and they were solid, they and DeMatha were one of the few teams who could compete with Landon at the team and even a few teams from the MSA (what is known as the MIAA today)

I'll take DC area lacrosse any day over the Baltimore area.

Better football, better basketball, and now better lacrosse.

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Anonymous wrote:"Have fun playing St. James, St. Albans, Episcopal and Landon. 🥴"

I'd rather play the teams listed above than play Bishop McNamara, Ireton, O'Connell, Good Counsel, and Saint Mary's Ryken (the bottom half of the WCAC is just bad lacrosse), Wes knows he doesn't have nearly the same squad as he did last year and it shows in their schedule this Spring. Where is McDonogh or Saint Mary's?

Unfortunately those are league teams. I’d say 3 of the 5 would smoke any IAC team in football and 4 of the 5 in basketball. You got to take the good with the bad. What other sports is the IAC good in? Boys field hockey?

This is hilarious. Do better next time. Which three of those WCAC teams would smoke any IAC team in football? Remember, they often play each other and scores are easily found. Nice try though. It certainly sounded like a great post when you were typing it, I'm sure.

Didn’t even know IAC played FB. Lol Have they ever had a team recognized on the national level? Last time I remember seeing any WCAC team playing them was a few years back. Gonzaga destroyed Prep that year. Probably why the WCAC teams don’t waste their time. Little sisters of the poor.

Look, I was responding to a PP who claimed BI, Oconnell, St. Mary's Ryken, McNamara and one other bottom feeder WCAC school would smoke the IAC in football and basketball. The stats don't back that up. Nobody was trying to put the IAC on the same pedestal as the WCAC football powerhouses that have more than 2x the number of boys in the high school. Some IAC schools have less than 300 boys. They still do pretty well against the WCAC second tier. Relax, Gonzaga dad. Relax.

Alrighty mouthy IAC dad. Prove it.

Go look at the scores from last year. And the year(s) before. Surely you can use the internet. Don't be dense.

The days of trying to compare conferences ended years ago. The WCAC allows for athletic scholarships which are not need based and the IAC doesn't (largely upheld now that Bullis has a new president). SJC lacrosse has jumped on that over the last 3 years and created a competition gap. The IAC has stopped scheduling them in general bc of the imbalance and the aggressive nature of their recruiting current students. The WCAC is a National sports conference with compensated athletes and the IAC isn’t. It’s not going to get any better.

Sorry to burst your bubble but the only lacrosse scholarship money being handed out at SJC and Gonzaga is need based. If you are well off your paying full boat unless you get an academic scholarship or you qualify for aid due to a lower economic status. You need to play football or basketball to get non need based aid.

Just have to laugh at posts like this. Just because the school's call it need based aid, doesn't mean that its not majority merit.

Sorry but you obviously didn’t go through a recent recruiting cycle.