Canadian Universities - What's the value?

[Anonymous]

I see that some of the Canadian U's are ranked higher that some of the prestigious US Universities.

https://www.usnews.com/education/best-global-universities/rankings

For instance, University of Toronto is #20 (22); British Columbia #27 (34) ; McGill #49 (42)

Duke is #21 (17)
Northwestern is #24 (20)
NYU is #28 (27)

UVA is #107 (113)

Rankings in parentheses are from Timeshighereducation.com

Question is do employers and higher ed (MBA, Law, med School) consider them to be at the same level as a similar US school? For instance, would an employer in NYC consider a Toronto or BC grad to be better than someone from NYU? I'm looking for anectodal evidence or data based on placements, etc. and not just opinions.. Thanks!

I get that some of you don't subscribe to these rankings. Just using those as a starting point for the discussion.

[Anonymous]

Nobody cares about the difference in going to a #27 school v a #28 school.

The Canadian schools are known well by those who need to know about them. Doing well is what matters (here or there).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Nobody cares about the difference in going to a #27 school v a #28 school.

The Canadian schools are known well by those who need to know about them. Doing well is what matters (here or there).

Such as? I'm interested in how they are perceived in the US once the kid decides to come back for Grad school or look for work..

[Anonymous]

The question is why are you going to pay about the same tuition for a subpar univertisty.
Alternative you can send you child to European Universities that are better cheaper and/or free.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The question is why are you going to pay about the same tuition for a subpar univertisty.
Alternative you can send you child to European Universities that are better cheaper and/or free.

Actually Canadian universities are much less expensive than American ones. And many have better ratings and high quality professors. McGill University, for example.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The question is why are you going to pay about the same tuition for a subpar univertisty.
Alternative you can send you child to European Universities that are better cheaper and/or free.

Actually Canadian universities are much less expensive than American ones. And many have better ratings and high quality professors. McGill University, for example.

OP. yes, I keep hearing that though McGill doesn't seem to be ranked as high as the other two. However, my question is after someone is done at those schools how are they perceived back in the US when it comes to jobs and post grad? Do employers even know about their relative rankings or are they just treated at the same level as say Kansas State University or some such backwater school..

[Anonymous]

Canadian here. My McGill undergrad degree cost me $3k/yr in tuition and about $900/m in living expenses--that's in CAD, about 12 years ago. Foreign student tuition is higher, but not anywhere close to US levels. American friends who were in my cohort were paying about $10k/yr in tuition, same living expenses, still in CAD.

I had absolutely zero issues finding a job in the US--my degree is viewed as very prestigious. I also had zero issues getting a (top) Ivy grad degree.

It's a big school, but it really is great. A lot less coddling. Challenging courses, very bright peers (Canada has one of the top public school systems in the world). Montreal is a fantastic city.

[Anonymous]

^PP here.

I wouldn't put too much stock in the rankings between U of T and McGill. They're constantly competing for the best school spot in the country. In the 2000s, McGill usually bested UofT, now UofT is on top. UBC is far and away the best west coast school, but has been playing catch up for decades relative to McG/UofT. But really, all three are excellent. You could split hairs over departments, but unless your kid knows exactly what they want to major in, it's not going to be that big of a difference.

If you want comprehensive Canadian rankings, look at McLeans magazine.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Canadian here. My McGill undergrad degree cost me $3k/yr in tuition and about $900/m in living expenses--that's in CAD, about 12 years ago. Foreign student tuition is higher, but not anywhere close to US levels. American friends who were in my cohort were paying about $10k/yr in tuition, same living expenses, still in CAD.

I had absolutely zero issues finding a job in the US--my degree is viewed as very prestigious. I also had zero issues getting a (top) Ivy grad degree.

It's a big school, but it really is great. A lot less coddling. Challenging courses, very bright peers (Canada has one of the top public school systems in the world). Montreal is a fantastic city.

Thank you! This is the kind of feedback i was looking for.

The costs for non-Canadians is not that cheap anymore but still way cheaper than some of the US Privates. McGill's tuition - Quebec residents - $2,391; Other canadians - $7402; Foreigners: $16,373 - $42,027 (B. Arts - Engineering/comp.sci)

[Anonymous]

My brother never came back (and at this point, who could blame him .

[Anonymous]

i was in two prestigious phd programs. but had several students from canadian universities. the main ones - Toronto, McGill and UBC - are considered excellent.

[Anonymous]

^^
both instead of but

[Anonymous]

Is it really that much cheaper than the US? $40 McGill for Internationals and $45-50K at U Toronto?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My brother never came back (and at this point, who could blame him .

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My brother never came back (and at this point, who could blame him .

This is one of the main advantages IMO of getting a degree in CA or UK. Options.