Travel Soccer teams around NOVA let's discuss

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Now Gunston announced its partnered with DC United.

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VDA and Ellicott city as well. Before long everyone will have some kind of agreement with everyone else and it will be meaningless. Kids will play wherever they (or parents) think is best, regardless of some agreement. It would be one thing if the clubs owned the rights to our kids but they don't.


Yep. It means absolutely nothing now. Every club has some "affiliation".

It's driven me to take my kids a different route completely because they are still young.

No league play next year for us.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Now Gunston announced its partnered with DC United.

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VDA and Ellicott city as well. Before long everyone will have some kind of agreement with everyone else and it will be meaningless. Kids will play wherever they (or parents) think is best, regardless of some agreement. It would be one thing if the clubs owned the rights to our kids but they don't.


Yep. It means absolutely nothing now. Every club has some "affiliation".

It's driven me to take my kids a different route completely because they are still young.

No league play next year for us.


I see no problem with avoiding leagues under 12, as long as you get good training. All of the best players I have seen recently are on year round futsal teams or do tons of private training.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Now Gunston announced its partnered with DC United.

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What does this mean for Gunston?


It means the same that it did for Annandale NOTHING! All marketing.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Now Gunston announced its partnered with DC United.

P


VDA and Ellicott city as well. Before long everyone will have some kind of agreement with everyone else and it will be meaningless. Kids will play wherever they (or parents) think is best, regardless of some agreement. It would be one thing if the clubs owned the rights to our kids but they don't.


Yep. It means absolutely nothing now. Every club has some "affiliation".

It's driven me to take my kids a different route completely because they are still young.

No league play next year for us.


I see no problem with avoiding leagues under 12, as long as you get good training. All of the best players I have seen recently are on year round futsal teams or do tons of private training.


That sounds like a lot of fun for the kids . . . not. Playing matches and especially tournaments is one of the best parts of the experience for the kids. The training is paramount and futsal and private training can be a valuable component. But ask any of my kids who play and they will tell you that what they live for is putting on the kit and playing in a match. I know some of the kids that you speak of and it never seems like they are enjoying it. I question how long they can stay in the sport if they aren't enjoying it, no matter how good they are.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So any bets on who will be Spirit VA's technical director? Does Diane Drake leave McLean? Does Eddie Lima seize his chance to head up a program again? Does Terry Foley have a non-compete clause? It's been almost a year so it's about time for Ken Krieger to change jobs. Is Kephern back from Europe?

My bet, another Spirit coach takes the job that no one seems to want, for a DA that will be combined into the Spirit MD Academy in two years.


I hope Diane Drake leaves McLean! She plays favorites way too much, we have not been impressed with her or her team.


+1


Your wishes came true. She apparently already checked out.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Diane Drake is leaving McLean for US Soccer. Wonder what's happening with her old teams.


coaching list out for some teams and you are correct on Drake. no longer on ECNL coaching lineup


Peace out


Peace out yourself. How about posting the U9-U12 coaching staff lineup that you oversee before you leave? Parents want to know your coaching picks before girls try out in 24 hrs.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Now Gunston announced its partnered with DC United.

P


VDA and Ellicott city as well. Before long everyone will have some kind of agreement with everyone else and it will be meaningless. Kids will play wherever they (or parents) think is best, regardless of some agreement. It would be one thing if the clubs owned the rights to our kids but they don't.


Yep. It means absolutely nothing now. Every club has some "affiliation".

It's driven me to take my kids a different route completely because they are still young.

No league play next year for us.


I see no problem with avoiding leagues under 12, as long as you get good training. All of the best players I have seen recently are on year round futsal teams or do tons of private training.


That sounds like a lot of fun for the kids . . . not. Playing matches and especially tournaments is one of the best parts of the experience for the kids. The training is paramount and futsal and private training can be a valuable component. But ask any of my kids who play and they will tell you that what they live for is putting on the kit and playing in a match. I know some of the kids that you speak of and it never seems like they are enjoying it. I question how long they can stay in the sport if they aren't enjoying it, no matter how good they are.


+1

If you're able to convince your kid to do nothing but train with the expectation that he/she will be a world-beater at U13, bully for you. But 99.99% of soccer players aren't going pro or even college, and being part of a team in games is an essential part of the team sports experience.

If you just want individual accomplishment with no human competition, just play golf.
Anonymous
^^ that's your kid. My kids have parents that have done it. Both dropped out of Club from 11-15 and trained.
Anonymous
You can't explain it to a bunch of retards. How do they think Acadamies in Eurooectrain?!!! It's rite drills. A true competitor is constantly competing with himself. Every practice is this way. That is why they become world class. They aren't running around in fancy kits and playing 5 games a weekend. The twits in this country don't put the time into training.
Anonymous
Two cents: Have watched a couple groups of girls and boys players from early days into high school now and the players who are really excelling had most or all of these things going for them:

-A parent was the head coach of the player's team for as long as possible, giving the kid maximum playing time and positional roles that were advantageous for development.

-The player's back yard was basically a soccer-training pitch with a wall of some kind and an expensive goal.

-The player was also an stellar athlete in another, complementary sport (lacrosse usually; basketball in one case).

-The player did private training in soccer for years.

Note that large travel soccer clubs don't (necessarily) provide any of these things.
Anonymous
^^ you are 100% correct--and I've seen it play out over 3 decades.

If you don't have that parental protection and knowledge prepare to ha e your kid fucked over.

Big clubs are shit for the things on your list and they are filled with parents who only care what team color Johnny is on. They will stop at nothing-emailing Coach, harassing TD and putting down other kids. It is a toxic environment and all the while their kid is developing zero technique. They think the kids level equates to his development.

Guess who coached Christian for years ? Yep-dad. They are quoted as saying they protected his development. They put limits on what they would allow him to do in the early years and where and how they played him.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:^^ you are 100% correct--and I've seen it play out over 3 decades.

If you don't have that parental protection and knowledge prepare to ha e your kid fucked over.

Big clubs are shit for the things on your list and they are filled with parents who only care what team color Johnny is on. They will stop at nothing-emailing Coach, harassing TD and putting down other kids. It is a toxic environment and all the while their kid is developing zero technique. They think the kids level equates to his development.

Guess who coached Christian for years ? Yep-dad. They are quoted as saying they protected his development. They put limits on what they would allow him to do in the early years and where and how they played him.



Ok, so I've learned from this list these things in the last couple of days:

1. identifying soccer talent is so hard that almost no parent can do it
2. parents frequently have their kids in the sport for the wrong reasons
3. big club training blows

So if your parent isn't a soccer savant, its hopeless, is that right?
Most parents rely on clubs to provide a good soccer curriculum because they can't create it themselves. Please rank the best clubs in the area in terms of player development.


Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:^^ you are 100% correct--and I've seen it play out over 3 decades.

If you don't have that parental protection and knowledge prepare to ha e your kid fucked over.

Big clubs are shit for the things on your list and they are filled with parents who only care what team color Johnny is on. They will stop at nothing-emailing Coach, harassing TD and putting down other kids. It is a toxic environment and all the while their kid is developing zero technique. They think the kids level equates to his development.

Guess who coached Christian for years ? Yep-dad. They are quoted as saying they protected his development. They put limits on what they would allow him to do in the early years and where and how they played him.



Ok, so I've learned from this list these things in the last couple of days:

1. identifying soccer talent is so hard that almost no parent can do it
2. parents frequently have their kids in the sport for the wrong reasons
3. big club training blows

So if your parent isn't a soccer savant, its hopeless, is that right?
Most parents rely on clubs to provide a good soccer curriculum because they can't create it themselves. Please rank the best clubs in the area in terms of player development.




The Clubs should have Yelp reviews. Once my doctor's office went this route somebody would actually pick up the phone to schedule appointments

In all seriousness, you just can't rank that type of thing unless you had a kid in every club in the area. You definitely can't go by results in the later years because many of the kids on those teams were developed somewhere else. You can't go by a bunch of fancy Coaching licenses--some of the Coach's with those absolutely suck as coaches and with interpersonal relationships. The only thing you can really do is read their webpages and philosophy and actually watch training sessions, get a feel for the environment of the Club. If you have friends or relatives who have been through it before that can be a big help as well.
Anonymous
http://www.brilliantclubs.com/ Not sure how accurate this site is, but the goal is to rate coaches and clubs across the country.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:http://www.brilliantclubs.com/ Not sure how accurate this site is, but the goal is to rate coaches and clubs across the country.



Thankfully, it's not being used much.

Word of mouth by people you trust is the best route. A lot of people are stuck in place just bitching and moaning, and think all clubs are like the one they start with. Once you step outside of your little (or big) bubble you will find the landscape is vastly different.

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