What exactly is on the CES test for third graders?

[Anonymous]

What is the content of the test? Does it include the following?
Reading short passages and answering questions
Verbal analogies
Number sequences / number patterns
Simple math equations
Shape pattern recognition
Other kinds of math like content-based questions about, say, units of measurement
Something else?

Thanks.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What is the content of the test? Does it include the following?
Reading short passages and answering questions
Verbal analogies
Number sequences / number patterns
Simple math equations
Shape pattern recognition
Other kinds of math like content-based questions about, say, units of measurement
Something else?

Thanks.

OMG no one is going to tell you.

[Anonymous]

LOL! I’m sure people are bigger than that. It’s not like my kid can rapidly cram all topics in one day and jump up reading and math levels by tomorrow.

[Anonymous]

Cogat. AEI director told the parents explicitly on the parent meeting. No need to hide. Unless you prep at least half a year before, it wouldn’t help since it’s more leaning toward testing the aptitude but meanwhile your kids’ vocabulary. Do a mock test might help make the kid less stressed.

[Anonymous]

We got some ‘gifted’ test workbooks online and had the kid do some of them before 3rd grade.

Figure they can’t hurt (analogies, logic, etc) and they were cheap and easy to go through.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What is the content of the test? Does it include the following?
Reading short passages and answering questions
Verbal analogies
Number sequences / number patterns
Simple math equations
Shape pattern recognition
Other kinds of math like content-based questions about, say, units of measurement
Something else?

Thanks.

I'd tell you but you'll have to pay me!

Signed,
Dr. Li

[Anonymous]

Last year it was a mini - Cogat, not the full battery, so 1 section each of Verbal, Quantitative and Non-Verbal. (The full test is 3 of each.) There are several question types in the full battery. Not sure if it was a sprinkle of each question type, or just 1 complete section.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Last year it was a mini - Cogat, not the full battery, so 1 section each of Verbal, Quantitative and Non-Verbal. (The full test is 3 of each.) There are several question types in the full battery. Not sure if it was a sprinkle of each question type, or just 1 complete section.

Any math?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Cogat. AEI director told the parents explicitly on the parent meeting. No need to hide. Unless you prep at least half a year before, it wouldn’t help since it’s more leaning toward testing the aptitude but meanwhile your kids’ vocabulary. Do a mock test might help make the kid less stressed.

I went to both meetings, no one mentioned Cogat, unless you stayed afterwards and got some special knowledge anyone else didn't.

[Anonymous]

It's some version of the cogat, OP, and has been for years. It would be best to buy a cogat prep book and do a bit of every section with your child, to boost their confidence. That way you eliminate any loss of points due to panic! Many years ago, I found the books in HMart, the asian supermarket. Perhaps there are some on Amazon?

And it's not cheating. Your kid isn't going to magically boist their scores by a significant percentile.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Cogat. AEI director told the parents explicitly on the parent meeting. No need to hide. Unless you prep at least half a year before, it wouldn’t help since it’s more leaning toward testing the aptitude but meanwhile your kids’ vocabulary. Do a mock test might help make the kid less stressed.

I went to both meetings, no one mentioned Cogat, unless you stayed afterwards and got some special knowledge anyone else didn't.

That's because you didn't pay enough attention. Ms. Casper mentioned that in answering one parent's question during the 1/24 meeting. Apparently she is not worried that this information is going to be leaked out or not, because even CoGAT, as the 3rd party administrates the test for years, change the format from year to year to accommodate MCPS's need/request. So it's not a standardized CoGAT.

Amazon has some books that you can conduct a mock test. I don't think that would help much as I said in my previous post, but that would at least familiarize your child if he/she easily get stressed or tend to not listen to instructions. I tried two mock tests, and found the results are amazingly agreeable with my DC's 2nd grade inview test, so I know what score range he/she will get if he/she performed normally during the test.

[Anonymous]

Do we know if it is on paper/Scantron or computerized? Does this vary by school?

[Anonymous]

Somewhere in the non-scoring survey portion, teach your kid to write " diversity is great" if the goal is to get in.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Do we know if it is on paper/Scantron or computerized? Does this vary by school?

On computer and 1.5 hours. Not sure how many restroom breaks they can get. Not sure if there would be "survey" questions but told my DC to make sure to write "politically correct" answer.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Somewhere in the non-scoring survey portion, teach your kid to write " diversity is great" if the goal is to get in.

What is the survey portion?