Duggar son allegedly molested girls including sisters

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I read a lot of stuff from conservative Christians who are "encouraging" people to forgive Josh because "we're all sinners." Can someone please explain this line of thinking to me? He molested 5 young girls. He didn't make a "mistake", and he is far worse than just a sinner. Would they be crying for forgiveness if it was their 9 year old daughter and a 14 year old boy from up the street? I hope not.

Sin is sin there is no worse or better and forgiveness is forgiveness.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I read a lot of stuff from conservative Christians who are "encouraging" people to forgive Josh because "we're all sinners." Can someone please explain this line of thinking to me? He molested 5 young girls. He didn't make a "mistake", and he is far worse than just a sinner. Would they be crying for forgiveness if it was their 9 year old daughter and a 14 year old boy from up the street? I hope not.

What would you be crying for if your son did this?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:https://youtu.be/JVjRiQw9KLw



Why has CPS not investigated this filthy peverted animal? All those kids in his home as well as the grandkids are at risk!

Michelle seemed pretty uncomfortable in that clip.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I read a lot of stuff from conservative Christians who are "encouraging" people to forgive Josh because "we're all sinners." Can someone please explain this line of thinking to me? He molested 5 young girls. He didn't make a "mistake", and he is far worse than just a sinner. Would they be crying for forgiveness if it was their 9 year old daughter and a 14 year old boy from up the street? I hope not.

What would you be crying for if your son did this?

If my son did this I would seek immediate psychological help. If anyone did this to my daughter (or son)...if anyone molested my 10 year old daughter or son while they were sleeping...I would seek justice.
This is not an issue of morality but illegality. Thank (not God but the SEPARATION OF STATE AND CHURCH) that the United States protects the rights of minors above the religious beliefs of fanatics.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I read a lot of stuff from conservative Christians who are "encouraging" people to forgive Josh because "we're all sinners." Can someone please explain this line of thinking to me? He molested 5 young girls. He didn't make a "mistake", and he is far worse than just a sinner. Would they be crying for forgiveness if it was their 9 year old daughter and a 14 year old boy from up the street? I hope not.

What would you be crying for if your son did this?

If my son did this I would seek immediate psychological help. If anyone did this to my daughter (or son)...if anyone molested my 10 year old daughter or son while they were sleeping...I would seek justice.
This is not an issue of morality but illegality. Thank (not God but the SEPARATION OF STATE AND CHURCH) that the United States protects the rights of minors above the religious beliefs of fanatics.

PP here who you asked what I'd be crying for if my son did this. First and foremost I would be seeking pyschological help for my son and the victims. I certainly wouldn't be praying about it.

And if my son who'd committed such an act ever spoke out and discriminated against a single group of people for their lifestyle choices...well, I'd tell him to sit down and remember that people in glass houses shouldn't cast stones.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I read a lot of stuff from conservative Christians who are "encouraging" people to forgive Josh because "we're all sinners." Can someone please explain this line of thinking to me? He molested 5 young girls. He didn't make a "mistake", and he is far worse than just a sinner. Would they be crying for forgiveness if it was their 9 year old daughter and a 14 year old boy from up the street? I hope not.

What would you be crying for if your son did this?

If my son did this I would seek immediate psychological help. If anyone did this to my daughter (or son)...if anyone molested my 10 year old daughter or son while they were sleeping...I would seek justice.
This is not an issue of morality but illegality. Thank (not God but the SEPARATION OF STATE AND CHURCH) that the United States protects the rights of minors above the religious beliefs of fanatics.

+1, I'd also stop birthing potential victims

[Anonymous]

Do you think the Duggars would have handled the situation differently had Josh been caught molesting his brothers instead of his sisters?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Do you think the Duggars would have handled the situation differently had Josh been caught molesting his brothers instead of his sisters?

Maybe. That would be g-g-g-gay!

[Anonymous]

This is a textbook study in how the rape culture works, how entire communities conspire to abet and protect sexual predators while silencing and retraumatizing victims.

Josh Duggar did not make "mistakes." He sexually preyed on multiple girls while they slept. And then he got away with it, because virtually everyone else around him was invested in making sure that he would.

An entire community, that grew bigger year by year, rallied behind a sexual predator to protect him. And now they stand behind him still, talking about his repeated predation as "mistakes."

Sexual assault is not "a mistake."

But certainly that's the way it must be framed for parents, church leaders, police, members of the community, in-laws, a wife, television executives, and now fans to speak in grave tones about the redemptive forgiveness of god and to convince themselves that it was just a blip in an otherwise exemplary life—while diligently ignoring the profound trauma of Josh Duggar's victims and the secondary trauma caused by a lack of justice lingering under the heavy shadow of his carefully maintained public image as a model of virtue.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is a textbook study in how the rape culture works, how entire communities conspire to abet and protect sexual predators while silencing and retraumatizing victims.

Josh Duggar did not make "mistakes." He sexually preyed on multiple girls while they slept. And then he got away with it, because virtually everyone else around him was invested in making sure that he would.

An entire community, that grew bigger year by year, rallied behind a sexual predator to protect him. And now they stand behind him still, talking about his repeated predation as "mistakes."

Sexual assault is not "a mistake."

But certainly that's the way it must be framed for parents, church leaders, police, members of the community, in-laws, a wife, television executives, and now fans to speak in grave tones about the redemptive forgiveness of god and to convince themselves that it was just a blip in an otherwise exemplary life—while diligently ignoring the profound trauma of Josh Duggar's victims and the secondary trauma caused by a lack of justice lingering under the heavy shadow of his carefully maintained public image as a model of virtue.

I think I love you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is a textbook study in how the rape culture works, how entire communities conspire to abet and protect sexual predators while silencing and retraumatizing victims.

Josh Duggar did not make "mistakes." He sexually preyed on multiple girls while they slept. And then he got away with it, because virtually everyone else around him was invested in making sure that he would.

An entire community, that grew bigger year by year, rallied behind a sexual predator to protect him. And now they stand behind him still, talking about his repeated predation as "mistakes."

Sexual assault is not "a mistake."

But certainly that's the way it must be framed for parents, church leaders, police, members of the community, in-laws, a wife, television executives, and now fans to speak in grave tones about the redemptive forgiveness of god and to convince themselves that it was just a blip in an otherwise exemplary life—while diligently ignoring the profound trauma of Josh Duggar's victims and the secondary trauma caused by a lack of justice lingering under the heavy shadow of his carefully maintained public image as a model of virtue.

Well said!

[Anonymous]

Two interesting articles:

http://defamer.gawker.com/tell-your-duggar-tales-did-michelle-duggar-get-a-gay-c-1706502185

http://defamer.gawker.com/mama-june-to-tlc-no-fair-you-support-duggar-molestati-1706257860

I feel badly for Michelle, she's been on the brink of a nervous breakdown for years, I hope this doesn't push her over the edge.

[Anonymous]

I am 14:10 and I would like to add that I am a devout catholic and middle of the road republican. This is not about religion or politics it is about human decency and how we choose the society we want to live in. I do not want to live in a society where sisters who are sexual assaulted by their brother have to continue living with him and worse live submissive to him. I do want to live in a society where all people have an equal opportunity to love and cannot wait for the day that the US wakes up and passes marriage equality for everyone. I also want to live in a society where I can choose not to have an abortion and my neighbor can choose to have one, because we all have the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness - not just people who look and think like me.

So the Duggars can kiss my grits.

[Anonymous]

What choice does a 10 or 11 year old girl have in a family like that? Did we expect they were not highly encouraged to forgive Josh? Do we really think these little girls had any ability to request justice/protection?

How about we forget about justice altogether? How about the police/prosecutors start to respond to rape cases by encouraging the victims to forgive the perpetrator so we can put this all behind us? Shouldn't we do this as good Christians?

IT WAS A CRIME.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am 14:10 and I would like to add that I am a devout catholic and middle of the road republican. This is not about religion or politics it is about human decency and how we choose the society we want to live in. I do not want to live in a society where sisters who are sexual assaulted by their brother have to continue living with him and worse live submissive to him. I do want to live in a society where all people have an equal opportunity to love and cannot wait for the day that the US wakes up and passes marriage equality for everyone. I also want to live in a society where I can choose not to have an abortion and my neighbor can choose to have one, because we all have the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness - not just people who look and think like me.

So the Duggars can kiss my grits.

A reasonable Republican - thank you for existing

I kid - I was one of the few Dems at my college in the south. Most of my friends there were R and at least considered themselves religious. This is why Congress pisses me off - I know it is possible to get along and find compromise. Why can't they? It's kind of their job.