FCPS Skyview Boundary Revised Scenario 1 / 2

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Anonymous wrote:This is how the June Newsletter that Moon just sent out describes Crossfield:

Originally opened in 1988, Crossfield Elementary has long served generations of students and families in the Herndon and Reston communities.

So why again are they still going to high school in Oakton, the 5th closest high school to them?

Quoted from their website, which describes why 🤦🏻‍♀️

“Our kids are not just numbers.
They are future graduates, athletes, artists, and leaders whose success depends on stability and support.
They are part of a living, growing community — one that deserves consistency, care, and a voice in decisions that shape their future.”

They are so full of shit. -Crossfield parent who would rather go to the closer school.

Regardless of language on websites, let's be honest with ourselves: Proximity does not ALWAYS equal quality.

As a parent of an 8th grader at Carson, let me give you a preview of what Skyview will be like. It's going to look similar to the direction that Carson has been moving in for the past year. You'll have about a third of the kids there who are really committed to their studies and want to excel academically and participate in extracurriculars. Wonderful! The remaining student body will be bringing knives to school and reselling things they stole from Walmart. (No, these are not hypothetical happenings: These are two very real occurrences that happen at least once a month now at Carson. And this kind of activity has only gotten worse in the past 2 years.)

So ... sure. If that's the environment you want your child in for HS, go for it. Yes, ALL schools have unique challenges and none are immune from problems. And I have no doubt that Skyview will hire great staff. But be careful what you wish for when your top priority is attending the "closer school."

The hyperbole in this post is sickening but perhaps inadvertently makes a strong case that Crossfield should be assigned to Skyview to provide these people with a reality check. I’m sure they think it’s fine to post such garbage because the Great Falls folks have been doing it for years, but enough is enough.

DP. Yeah, let’s upset the apple cart because somebody on an anonymous forum was slightly mean.

You gotta touch grass, karen. Devoting your time to actually trying to improve the school would pay more dividends, than just pearl clutching on DCUM.

Being slightly mean is one thing. Being totally full of crap is another.

No one in their right mind thinks that 2/3 of the kids at Carson are even misbehaving, much less coming to school with weapons or stolen goods. But that's how you freaks from Oakton and Langley routinely talk about kids that don't fit your preferred demographics.

You need a change of scenery, courtesy of the School Board.

Ah yes, from your rhetoric, we can see that you love your neighbor. No anger issues at all.

You get more flies with sugar than with vinegar, especially when your vinegar would diminish FCPS as a whole. You should just admit that a pure equity play is out of touch with most Fairfax constituents.

Why don’t you just ask those Oakton “freaks” to nicely move away from their own community so that you can selfishly benefit?

We can all see that your sympathies lie with people who'd falsely claim that 2/3 of Carson students are coming to school with weapons or stolen goods. Just like your neighbors routinely claimed Herndon HS was a gang-ridden hellhole.

You have no standing to lecture anyone about being selfish.

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Anonymous wrote:Most importantly, rather than squabbling back and forth about who is right or wrong, how can we best advocate? For example, I’m in the small section of Oak Hill that just got cut off from the rest. We live in Franklin Farm and in Scenario 2, we no longer go to middle school or high school with anyone else from Oak Hill. They froze us because of our distance to Franklin and redistricted the rest of Oak Hill to Carson and Skyview. What legs do we have to stand on to try to get moved with the rest of our friends if we’re in the frozen area? None of us mind Franklin or Chantilly; we just want to remain together. How do we best advocate for that?

There's a Franklin Farm community guide circulating on this issue, with background, maps, and suggested comment language for the boundary tool, before the June 9 deadline. [/url]https://docs.google.com/document/d/1M0YRFvcrqJGlvu0g4dS2GzWpeUhQYqNNBmJxHEemib8[url]

What do they want?

Keeping the Oak Hill section of Franklin Farm together (western Franklin Farm) through MS and HS. Scenario 2 has them split the HOA in half (per the comments above). Move the boundary line to Lees Corner Rd/Thompson Rd. to keep those neighbors together in their HOA.

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Anonymous wrote:Most importantly, rather than squabbling back and forth about who is right or wrong, how can we best advocate? For example, I’m in the small section of Oak Hill that just got cut off from the rest. We live in Franklin Farm and in Scenario 2, we no longer go to middle school or high school with anyone else from Oak Hill. They froze us because of our distance to Franklin and redistricted the rest of Oak Hill to Carson and Skyview. What legs do we have to stand on to try to get moved with the rest of our friends if we’re in the frozen area? None of us mind Franklin or Chantilly; we just want to remain together. How do we best advocate for that?

There's a Franklin Farm community guide circulating on this issue, with background, maps, and suggested comment language for the boundary tool, before the June 9 deadline. [/url]https://docs.google.com/document/d/1M0YRFvcrqJGlvu0g4dS2GzWpeUhQYqNNBmJxHEemib8[url]

What do they want?

Keeping the Oak Hill section of Franklin Farm together (western Franklin Farm) through MS and HS. Scenario 2 has them split the HOA in half (per the comments above). Move the boundary line to Lees Corner Rd/Thompson Rd. to keep those neighbors together in their HOA.

I see a theme here: people want to keep their elementary school communities together! It shouldn’t be that difficult to do so, and frankly it just makes sense.

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Anonymous wrote:Most importantly, rather than squabbling back and forth about who is right or wrong, how can we best advocate? For example, I’m in the small section of Oak Hill that just got cut off from the rest. We live in Franklin Farm and in Scenario 2, we no longer go to middle school or high school with anyone else from Oak Hill. They froze us because of our distance to Franklin and redistricted the rest of Oak Hill to Carson and Skyview. What legs do we have to stand on to try to get moved with the rest of our friends if we’re in the frozen area? None of us mind Franklin or Chantilly; we just want to remain together. How do we best advocate for that?

There's a Franklin Farm community guide circulating on this issue, with background, maps, and suggested comment language for the boundary tool, before the June 9 deadline. [/url]https://docs.google.com/document/d/1M0YRFvcrqJGlvu0g4dS2GzWpeUhQYqNNBmJxHEemib8[url]

What do they want?

Keeping the Oak Hill section of Franklin Farm together (western Franklin Farm) through MS and HS. Scenario 2 has them split the HOA in half (per the comments above). Move the boundary line to Lees Corner Rd/Thompson Rd. to keep those neighbors together in their HOA.

Just curious, are they together now?

Everyone wants a cohesive pyramid for their kids, but its not doable for everyone.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Most importantly, rather than squabbling back and forth about who is right or wrong, how can we best advocate? For example, I’m in the small section of Oak Hill that just got cut off from the rest. We live in Franklin Farm and in Scenario 2, we no longer go to middle school or high school with anyone else from Oak Hill. They froze us because of our distance to Franklin and redistricted the rest of Oak Hill to Carson and Skyview. What legs do we have to stand on to try to get moved with the rest of our friends if we’re in the frozen area? None of us mind Franklin or Chantilly; we just want to remain together. How do we best advocate for that?

There's a Franklin Farm community guide circulating on this issue, with background, maps, and suggested comment language for the boundary tool, before the June 9 deadline. [/url]https://docs.google.com/document/d/1M0YRFvcrqJGlvu0g4dS2GzWpeUhQYqNNBmJxHEemib8[url]

What do they want?

Keeping the Oak Hill section of Franklin Farm together (western Franklin Farm) through MS and HS. Scenario 2 has them split the HOA in half (per the comments above). Move the boundary line to Lees Corner Rd/Thompson Rd. to keep those neighbors together in their HOA.

Just curious, are they together now?

Everyone wants a cohesive pyramid for their kids, but its not doable for everyone.

Yes, they’re currently all together at Oak Hill, but it’s probably related to how they were told to “freeze walkers,” so the neighborhood that’s close to Franklin MS, south of Franklin farm dr. is moved away from the rest of Oak Hill ES for MS and HS in scenario 2. In Scenario 1 they stay with the rest of Oak Hill for MS and HS. You can look at the google map doc someone posted if you’re curious.

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Anonymous wrote:Most importantly, rather than squabbling back and forth about who is right or wrong, how can we best advocate? For example, I’m in the small section of Oak Hill that just got cut off from the rest. We live in Franklin Farm and in Scenario 2, we no longer go to middle school or high school with anyone else from Oak Hill. They froze us because of our distance to Franklin and redistricted the rest of Oak Hill to Carson and Skyview. What legs do we have to stand on to try to get moved with the rest of our friends if we’re in the frozen area? None of us mind Franklin or Chantilly; we just want to remain together. How do we best advocate for that?

There's a Franklin Farm community guide circulating on this issue, with background, maps, and suggested comment language for the boundary tool, before the June 9 deadline. [/url]https://docs.google.com/document/d/1M0YRFvcrqJGlvu0g4dS2GzWpeUhQYqNNBmJxHEemib8[url]

What do they want?

Keeping the Oak Hill section of Franklin Farm together (western Franklin Farm) through MS and HS. Scenario 2 has them split the HOA in half (per the comments above). Move the boundary line to Lees Corner Rd/Thompson Rd. to keep those neighbors together in their HOA.

Just curious, are they together now?

Everyone wants a cohesive pyramid for their kids, but its not doable for everyone.

Oak Hill ES all go to the same Ms and HS now, accept for the kids who choose Carson for AAP. The latest scenarios are the first time the school was split up on any scenario.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Most importantly, rather than squabbling back and forth about who is right or wrong, how can we best advocate? For example, I’m in the small section of Oak Hill that just got cut off from the rest. We live in Franklin Farm and in Scenario 2, we no longer go to middle school or high school with anyone else from Oak Hill. They froze us because of our distance to Franklin and redistricted the rest of Oak Hill to Carson and Skyview. What legs do we have to stand on to try to get moved with the rest of our friends if we’re in the frozen area? None of us mind Franklin or Chantilly; we just want to remain together. How do we best advocate for that?

There's a Franklin Farm community guide circulating on this issue, with background, maps, and suggested comment language for the boundary tool, before the June 9 deadline. [/url]https://docs.google.com/document/d/1M0YRFvcrqJGlvu0g4dS2GzWpeUhQYqNNBmJxHEemib8[url]

What do they want?

Keeping the Oak Hill section of Franklin Farm together (western Franklin Farm) through MS and HS. Scenario 2 has them split the HOA in half (per the comments above). Move the boundary line to Lees Corner Rd/Thompson Rd. to keep those neighbors together in their HOA.

Just curious, are they together now?

Everyone wants a cohesive pyramid for their kids, but its not doable for everyone.

Oak Hill ES all go to the same Ms and HS now, accept for the kids who choose Carson for AAP. The latest scenarios are the first time the school was split up on any scenario.

This is what happened with Crossfield as well. A handful of small neighborhoods who are currently Crossfield/Carson/Oakton communities were intentionally plucked away in scenario 2 and rezoned to Skyview. Similar to what is happening with Oak Hill/Franklin Farm, it’s nonsensical that FCPS would cherry pick a small segment of a current ES community and rezone them.

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Anonymous wrote:Most importantly, rather than squabbling back and forth about who is right or wrong, how can we best advocate? For example, I’m in the small section of Oak Hill that just got cut off from the rest. We live in Franklin Farm and in Scenario 2, we no longer go to middle school or high school with anyone else from Oak Hill. They froze us because of our distance to Franklin and redistricted the rest of Oak Hill to Carson and Skyview. What legs do we have to stand on to try to get moved with the rest of our friends if we’re in the frozen area? None of us mind Franklin or Chantilly; we just want to remain together. How do we best advocate for that?

There's a Franklin Farm community guide circulating on this issue, with background, maps, and suggested comment language for the boundary tool, before the June 9 deadline. [/url]https://docs.google.com/document/d/1M0YRFvcrqJGlvu0g4dS2GzWpeUhQYqNNBmJxHEemib8[url]

What do they want?

Keeping the Oak Hill section of Franklin Farm together (western Franklin Farm) through MS and HS. Scenario 2 has them split the HOA in half (per the comments above). Move the boundary line to Lees Corner Rd/Thompson Rd. to keep those neighbors together in their HOA.

Just curious, are they together now?

Everyone wants a cohesive pyramid for their kids, but its not doable for everyone.

Oak Hill ES all go to the same Ms and HS now, accept for the kids who choose Carson for AAP. The latest scenarios are the first time the school was split up on any scenario.

This is what happened with Crossfield as well. A handful of small neighborhoods who are currently Crossfield/Carson/Oakton communities were intentionally plucked away in scenario 2 and rezoned to Skyview. Similar to what is happening with Oak Hill/Franklin Farm, it’s nonsensical that FCPS would cherry pick a small segment of a current ES community and rezone them.

They did that with a section of Brookfield and a section of Bull Run for the various scenarios. Its not nonsensical. Someone has to get moved. There are many non-cohesive FCPS pyramids.

[Anonymous]

I asked at one boundary meeting (not Skyview) why they couldn’t create and then adhere to a rule of thumb that they would not release to the public any boundary proposal that would solve one “problem” by creating another one, such as a new, lopsided split feeder.

It was met with a curt response that I could suggest that on a feedback form. But they continue to do this, and it always creates a lot of anxiety.

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Anonymous wrote:Most importantly, rather than squabbling back and forth about who is right or wrong, how can we best advocate? For example, I’m in the small section of Oak Hill that just got cut off from the rest. We live in Franklin Farm and in Scenario 2, we no longer go to middle school or high school with anyone else from Oak Hill. They froze us because of our distance to Franklin and redistricted the rest of Oak Hill to Carson and Skyview. What legs do we have to stand on to try to get moved with the rest of our friends if we’re in the frozen area? None of us mind Franklin or Chantilly; we just want to remain together. How do we best advocate for that?

There's a Franklin Farm community guide circulating on this issue, with background, maps, and suggested comment language for the boundary tool, before the June 9 deadline. [/url]https://docs.google.com/document/d/1M0YRFvcrqJGlvu0g4dS2GzWpeUhQYqNNBmJxHEemib8[url]

What do they want?

Keeping the Oak Hill section of Franklin Farm together (western Franklin Farm) through MS and HS. Scenario 2 has them split the HOA in half (per the comments above). Move the boundary line to Lees Corner Rd/Thompson Rd. to keep those neighbors together in their HOA.

Just curious, are they together now?

Everyone wants a cohesive pyramid for their kids, but its not doable for everyone.

Oak Hill ES all go to the same Ms and HS now, accept for the kids who choose Carson for AAP. The latest scenarios are the first time the school was split up on any scenario.

This is what happened with Crossfield as well. A handful of small neighborhoods who are currently Crossfield/Carson/Oakton communities were intentionally plucked away in scenario 2 and rezoned to Skyview. Similar to what is happening with Oak Hill/Franklin Farm, it’s nonsensical that FCPS would cherry pick a small segment of a current ES community and rezone them.

They did that with a section of Brookfield and a section of Bull Run for the various scenarios. It’s not nonsensical. Someone has to get moved. There are many non-cohesive FCPS pyramids.

They may need split feeders but they should at least look to avoid creating new split feeders that are lopsided (under 20% of the kids feeding to a school).

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Most importantly, rather than squabbling back and forth about who is right or wrong, how can we best advocate? For example, I’m in the small section of Oak Hill that just got cut off from the rest. We live in Franklin Farm and in Scenario 2, we no longer go to middle school or high school with anyone else from Oak Hill. They froze us because of our distance to Franklin and redistricted the rest of Oak Hill to Carson and Skyview. What legs do we have to stand on to try to get moved with the rest of our friends if we’re in the frozen area? None of us mind Franklin or Chantilly; we just want to remain together. How do we best advocate for that?

There's a Franklin Farm community guide circulating on this issue, with background, maps, and suggested comment language for the boundary tool, before the June 9 deadline. [/url]https://docs.google.com/document/d/1M0YRFvcrqJGlvu0g4dS2GzWpeUhQYqNNBmJxHEemib8[url]

What do they want?

Just an FYI for those unfamiliar with the area. This is NOT the Crossfield people. This is regarding the NEW suggestion of separating these kids from the rest of Oak Hill.

FWIW: This part of Franklin Farm has been with Chantilly Highlands at Oak Hill for well over thirty years. This proposal not only separates them from Oak Hill cohort, but also the part of Franklin Farm that is across Franklin Farm Rd. This has nothing to do with Franklin Farm/Crossfield which is on the other side of the parkway. They have been separated ever since Crossfield opened--maybe even before that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I asked at one boundary meeting (not Skyview) why they couldn’t create and then adhere to a rule of thumb that they would not release to the public any boundary proposal that would solve one “problem” by creating another one, such as a new, lopsided split feeder.

It was met with a curt response that I could suggest that on a feedback form. But they continue to do this, and it always creates a lot of anxiety.

That’s a great proposed rule, and I totally agree it should be followed, but the problem is there are no ways to solve these problems without creating problems that are similar in scale. The school board should’ve recognized this long ago, but they were too busy patting themselves on the back for the purchase.

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Anonymous wrote:Most importantly, rather than squabbling back and forth about who is right or wrong, how can we best advocate? For example, I’m in the small section of Oak Hill that just got cut off from the rest. We live in Franklin Farm and in Scenario 2, we no longer go to middle school or high school with anyone else from Oak Hill. They froze us because of our distance to Franklin and redistricted the rest of Oak Hill to Carson and Skyview. What legs do we have to stand on to try to get moved with the rest of our friends if we’re in the frozen area? None of us mind Franklin or Chantilly; we just want to remain together. How do we best advocate for that?

There's a Franklin Farm community guide circulating on this issue, with background, maps, and suggested comment language for the boundary tool, before the June 9 deadline. [/url]https://docs.google.com/document/d/1M0YRFvcrqJGlvu0g4dS2GzWpeUhQYqNNBmJxHEemib8[url]

What do they want?

Keeping the Oak Hill section of Franklin Farm together (western Franklin Farm) through MS and HS. Scenario 2 has them split the HOA in half (per the comments above). Move the boundary line to Lees Corner Rd/Thompson Rd. to keep those neighbors together in their HOA.

Just curious, are they together now?

Everyone wants a cohesive pyramid for their kids, but its not doable for everyone.

Oak Hill ES all go to the same Ms and HS now, accept for the kids who choose Carson for AAP. The latest scenarios are the first time the school was split up on any scenario.

This is what happened with Crossfield as well. A handful of small neighborhoods who are currently Crossfield/Carson/Oakton communities were intentionally plucked away in scenario 2 and rezoned to Skyview. Similar to what is happening with Oak Hill/Franklin Farm, it’s nonsensical that FCPS would cherry pick a small segment of a current ES community and rezone them.

They did that with a section of Brookfield and a section of Bull Run for the various scenarios. It’s not nonsensical. Someone has to get moved. There are many non-cohesive FCPS pyramids.

They may need split feeders but they should at least look to avoid creating new split feeders that are lopsided (under 20% of the kids feeding to a school).

Solution: split Crossfield into equal Carson/Skyview and Hughes/SLHS groups.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Most importantly, rather than squabbling back and forth about who is right or wrong, how can we best advocate? For example, I’m in the small section of Oak Hill that just got cut off from the rest. We live in Franklin Farm and in Scenario 2, we no longer go to middle school or high school with anyone else from Oak Hill. They froze us because of our distance to Franklin and redistricted the rest of Oak Hill to Carson and Skyview. What legs do we have to stand on to try to get moved with the rest of our friends if we’re in the frozen area? None of us mind Franklin or Chantilly; we just want to remain together. How do we best advocate for that?

There's a Franklin Farm community guide circulating on this issue, with background, maps, and suggested comment language for the boundary tool, before the June 9 deadline. [/url]https://docs.google.com/document/d/1M0YRFvcrqJGlvu0g4dS2GzWpeUhQYqNNBmJxHEemib8[url]

What do they want?

Keeping the Oak Hill section of Franklin Farm together (western Franklin Farm) through MS and HS. Scenario 2 has them split the HOA in half (per the comments above). Move the boundary line to Lees Corner Rd/Thompson Rd. to keep those neighbors together in their HOA.

Just curious, are they together now?

Everyone wants a cohesive pyramid for their kids, but its not doable for everyone.

Oak Hill ES all go to the same Ms and HS now, accept for the kids who choose Carson for AAP. The latest scenarios are the first time the school was split up on any scenario.

This is what happened with Crossfield as well. A handful of small neighborhoods who are currently Crossfield/Carson/Oakton communities were intentionally plucked away in scenario 2 and rezoned to Skyview. Similar to what is happening with Oak Hill/Franklin Farm, it’s nonsensical that FCPS would cherry pick a small segment of a current ES community and rezone them.

They did that with a section of Brookfield and a section of Bull Run for the various scenarios. Its not nonsensical. Someone has to get moved. There are many non-cohesive FCPS pyramids.

So, easy answer. Keep Chantilly Mews at Chantilly and let western Franklin Farm go to Skyview with their Oak Hill friends. Done.

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Anonymous wrote:There are inherent issues presented by the makeup and location of Crossfield. Basically three areas: the parts located west and south of West Ox that have higher population density and more of a community feel (and are also located closer to Chantilly and/or Skyview) and the parts on the other wide that are houses on large lots where they have to drive everywhere anyway so Oakton feels more reasonable. And the third part that is adjacent to Reston and goes to South Lakes.
A three way split does seem pretty insane, so why not simplify it by making it 2 way with the western part going to Carson/Skyview and the rest going to Hughes/SLHS?

No one wants to move to IB. No one. OK, so maybe a few people but it is a small percentage of people.

Replace IB with AP at SLHS. That lifts all SLHS boats.