Who do you think is going to win and why?

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Anonymous wrote:If Trump wins, we have to realize that the problem is much more serious than Trump himself. We have a truly diseased society, and it's not like this hasn't happened anywhere before in current times or past history. He could only pull this off if people were capable of being this deluded. So, this election is a referenfum on our American culture, actually.


The fact that he’s still a viable candidate for the 3rd time, after everything, is just unfathomable.


Disgusting.


Find better democratic candidates then.


Even the worst Democratic candidate is objectively a better choice than Trump. He is a rapist, convicted felon, racist, pathological liar. All of these are facts—not opinion. I cannot believe how selfish, delusional and hateful his supporters are masquerading as normal people.


I am horrified that 3 out of my 4 good friends are voting Trump.


Sounds like you have 3 intelligent friends.
Anonymous
Kamala will win.

And she will be terrible.

It's a lose-lose situation for US so just flip a coin.

They both suck. How anyone can support either of them is the real tragedy. He is a convicted felon who has made a mockery of the US in every way. She is a hot mess out of her depth and couldn't lead a horse to water.

I mean neither of them have legit policies that will impact more positively than negatively. We are screwed the next 4 years. Take your energy and figure out how to get through a tough 4 years financially.
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Anonymous wrote:If Trump wins, we have to realize that the problem is much more serious than Trump himself. We have a truly diseased society, and it's not like this hasn't happened anywhere before in current times or past history. He could only pull this off if people were capable of being this deluded. So, this election is a referenfum on our American culture, actually.


The fact that he’s still a viable candidate for the 3rd time, after everything, is just unfathomable.


Disgusting.


Find better democratic candidates then.


Even the worst Democratic candidate is objectively a better choice than Trump. He is a rapist, convicted felon, racist, pathological liar. All of these are facts—not opinion. I cannot believe how selfish, delusional and hateful his supporters are masquerading as normal people.


I am horrified that 3 out of my 4 good friends are voting Trump.


Sounds like you have 3 intelligent friends.


Oh, honey, "one" is the number that looks like a stick.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Kamala will win.

And she will be terrible.

It's a lose-lose situation for US so just flip a coin.

They both suck. How anyone can support either of them is the real tragedy. He is a convicted felon who has made a mockery of the US in every way. She is a hot mess out of her depth and couldn't lead a horse to water.

I mean neither of them have legit policies that will impact more positively than negatively. We are screwed the next 4 years. Take your energy and figure out how to get through a tough 4 years financially.


Some of what you say is true but only one of them have had the job previously and while he was on the job, he cowered in a corner of The White House for 3 hours and refused to respond to pleas for help and guidance while a mob of hundreds stormed our nation's Capitol and roamed the halls looking for prominent leaders to "hang". A Commander-in-Chief's number one priority is to act immediately to protect the country in that situation and Trump did nothing for three hours. For me, that's a disqualifying factor that is unique to Trump because no other POTUS in our history has ever come close to abandoning the country in a moment like that. Not saying I'm voting for Harris but there is no way in heck I can stoop to the level of voting for Trump considering that type of failure when he had the job previously.
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Anonymous wrote:Kamala will win.

And she will be terrible.

It's a lose-lose situation for US so just flip a coin.

They both suck. How anyone can support either of them is the real tragedy. He is a convicted felon who has made a mockery of the US in every way. She is a hot mess out of her depth and couldn't lead a horse to water.

I mean neither of them have legit policies that will impact more positively than negatively. We are screwed the next 4 years. Take your energy and figure out how to get through a tough 4 years financially.


Some of what you say is true but only one of them have had the job previously and while he was on the job, he cowered in a corner of The White House for 3 hours and refused to respond to pleas for help and guidance while a mob of hundreds stormed our nation's Capitol and roamed the halls looking for prominent leaders to "hang". A Commander-in-Chief's number one priority is to act immediately to protect the country in that situation and Trump did nothing for three hours. For me, that's a disqualifying factor that is unique to Trump because no other POTUS in our history has ever come close to abandoning the country in a moment like that. Not saying I'm voting for Harris but there is no way in heck I can stoop to the level of voting for Trump considering that type of failure when he had the job previously.


We know you think this because you repeat it every other post in this thread.
Anonymous
Even the rats are jumping off the Kamala ship. It’s truly epic watching a disasterous campaign end for her, I had no idea she was this stupid
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Anonymous wrote:Even the rats are jumping off the Kamala ship. It’s truly epic watching a disasterous campaign end for her, I had no idea she was this stupid

Enjoy your tariffs and surging inflation, comrade.
Anonymous
I think Harris will win and we will have a string of women as president. Women get sh*t done. Men focus on themselves. Women are far more community minded. I think America will excel under Harris.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Kamala will win.

And she will be terrible.

It's a lose-lose situation for US so just flip a coin.

They both suck. How anyone can support either of them is the real tragedy. He is a convicted felon who has made a mockery of the US in every way. She is a hot mess out of her depth and couldn't lead a horse to water.

I mean neither of them have legit policies that will impact more positively than negatively. We are screwed the next 4 years. Take your energy and figure out how to get through a tough 4 years financially.


The “convicted felon” gave it away as a neutral they both suck type post. Anyone that doesn’t religiously watch msnbc knows they were bullshit charges and convictions. If you went without it, the post may have achieved its intended purpose.
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Anonymous wrote:Even the rats are jumping off the Kamala ship. It’s truly epic watching a disasterous campaign end for her, I had no idea she was this stupid

Enjoy your tariffs and surging inflation, comrade.


The inflation is what you 2020 Biden voters gave us and 2024 Harris voters want to entrench in the economy.
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Anonymous wrote:Even the rats are jumping off the Kamala ship. It’s truly epic watching a disasterous campaign end for her, I had no idea she was this stupid

Enjoy your tariffs and surging inflation, comrade.


The inflation is what you 2020 Biden voters gave us and 2024 Harris voters want to entrench in the economy.


Trump is outright telling us he plans to raise inflation. It's one of the fundamental components of his policy and the one he talks about most frequently. You should probably be saving as much as you can right now to get ahead of this.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I think Harris will win and we will have a string of women as president. Women get sh*t done. Men focus on themselves. Women are far more community minded. I think America will excel under Harris.


I hope you are right, as someone who thinks Trump is going to win, but really hopes he doesn’t.
Anonymous
Newspapers not endorsing her, polls showing her crash, Dem ads down the ballot showing how a candidate would work with Trump, deranged Hilary. It’s ugly for Kamala, and getting worse by the day. She’s been reduced to screaming Hitler, she’s flailing
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Anonymous wrote:I think Trump, and I think because voters have a sense of being gaslit by Democrats:

Crime is not down, as anyone who has been robbed in the past four years (after never having been robbed before) and been told that the cops don’t even want to take a report knows. This is also known by all the people who can’t walk into their local drugstore to shop since so many of the goods are under lock and key.

Immigration is not an untrammeled good, as anyone who lives in a mostly lower-income community, especially with kids in public schools, knows.

Inflation is not mostly under control, as anyone who has to watch a grocery budget closely knows.

Boys who want to take the spot of girls and have access to girls’ private and safe spaces are not the victims and are not more important than those girls, as anyone with a minimal amount of common sense and respect for girls knows.

Spreading US military resources out around the world makes the US more vulnerable, not less vulnerable, as anyone who has studied military history knows.

Leaning in hard on identity as being the single most important aspect of a person is just an effective and corporate-backed anti-labor move, as anyone who has noticed that all the corporations with their millions spent on DEI somehow neglect to support the creation of a “Lower Class” internal affinity group.

And so on.

The Republicans lie all the time too, but they don’t make their lies out to be fundamental truths the same way. The Democrats have adopted all these positions with the fervor of evangelicals. It is a demand for belief, not just a policy statement. And people don’t like being ordered to believe truths they feel in their bones aren’t true.


Disagree. Republicans DO make their lies out to be fundamental truths.

They lie and say Trump won in 2020 and that it was stolen from him. That's one of their fundamental truths anymore.
They lie and say Trump never did anything wrong, committed no crimes or malfeasances and that the government is "weaponized" against conservatives. False, but they've made it a paranoid, fundamental truth.
They lie and say Democrats will confiscate everyone's guns if they get elected.
They lie and call Democrats "Marxists" and "Communists"
They lie and call Democrats "Satanic"
They lied and claimed the vaccines were more dangerous than COVID itself
They lied and claimed COVID was a hoax

A stunning amount of Republicans say they believe these things in polling. That makes them fundamental truths.

The Republicans tell lie after lie after lie, all intended to divide and demonize, and without any real solutions either. Yet here your big overwhelming issue is that Democrats play the optimists and downplay inflation or crime - with the irony being that Trump's economic policies would worsen inflation which would likely drive crime back up as well. So even as your "feeling of something being off" may have some limited merits to it, your response to it is to get nasty and vicious and support a guy who will pursue the exactly wrong policies rather than actually pursuing solutions and having meaningful dialogs.


Yes, a lot of Republicans believe this. But not anyone who isn’t Republican, although I think a lot of people are suspicious about the court cases against Trump, so that one might spread to independents and moderate Democrats.

But the difference with these beliefs is that the Republicans tend to present them as political opinions. The issues up above (crime, etc) are presented by the Democrats as facts, not political opinions. I mean, who cares that some Republicans call all Democrats Marxists, most voters don’t see that as a demand that they now believe all Democrats are Marxists. The issue the Democrats have is that they’ve taken beliefs and turned them into facts, and are then telling everyone that their facts (which are just beliefs) are representative of reality. People in general hate being told to believe something that they know is not true in their day-to-day reality. And that’s what the Democrats are doing. In the end, people don’t like being gaslit.
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Anonymous wrote:Even the rats are jumping off the Kamala ship. It’s truly epic watching a disasterous campaign end for her, I had no idea she was this stupid

Enjoy your tariffs and surging inflation, comrade.


The inflation is what you 2020 Biden voters gave us and 2024 Harris voters want to entrench in the economy.


If Trump wins, and then implements his tarriff plan which will exponentially increase inflation, I wonder if any of the people who regularly repeat the above now will ever take the time to learn that the inflation Biden has had to deal with (pretty well!) during his administration, was driven by things that occurred under the Trump administration and specifically by Trump policy.

Remember the multiple rounds of Covid relief checks in 2020? They were distributed by Trump and wound up being a big driver of inflation -- that's what happens when you pump money into the economy. I think these checks were likely needed but inflation was one of the side effects.

The corporate tax cuts Trump put into place greatly incentivized corporations to raise prices to realize extra profits immediately while those tax cuts were in place. Combined with the extra cash Trump had pumped into the economy which corporations found helped consumers tolerate higher prices without changing habits (at least for a while), this also contributed to inflation.

Inflation also had other causes beyond Trump policy-- the pandemic caused disruptions to supply chains that created scarcity in certain consumer goods (including cars and electronics) which drove up prices. Russia's aggression in Ukraine caused energy prices to go up which had inflationary effects globally.

People sit around blaming Biden for inflation because it got so bad during his presidency, but the trajectory was created under Trump and by the time Biden took over he was mostly just reacting to it (you can argue that he contributed to it with some of the Covid relief he passed early in his administration, but you can also argue this was necessary for recovery just as you can with the relief Trump passed. Inflation was a foregone conclusion at that point.

Had Trump won in 2020 he would have had to deal with the exact same inflationary problem. I doubt he would have made it better because of his obsession with tariffs which always result in higher prices for consumers (they are effectively a sales tax).

A part of me almost wants Trump to win to people cam see how bad his policies are and it kills his popularity once and for all. But since he'd be a one term president, probably he'd just set us back in motion for problems that will plague the next president (unless he refuses to leave office). The next person will again be blamed for the impacts of Trump's policies and Trump's MAGA successor will use that to get elected the next time.
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