Why are people more sympathetic to Lindsay Clancy than Andrea Yates? (Child death mentioned)

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How do you know that? She could just be a narcissist who had kids for attention and to use as social media props without realizing how much work having 3 kids back to back is. When things got too overwhelming, she decided to kill them and blame her meds. What else can explain her murdering her children one by one in the most painful way possible and her halfhearted suicide attempt? She clearly knew she wasn’t going to die and she wouldn’t have suffered even a tenth of the pain her kids did.

How do you know that, either? Ultimately we can guess at what she was feeling and thinking but none of us will know more until the trial.

No one thinks they will die jumping two stories.

She slashed her wrists before she jumped.

She slashed her kids wrists to bleed them out because they weren't dying fast enough.

She cut her wrists most likely shallow to feign taking her own life. If she really wanted to kill herself she would have done it. She clearly knows how to kill.

+1. It’s obvious she didn’t want to suffer the same pain she chose to inflict on her kids, which is very narcissistic.

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How do you know that? She could just be a narcissist who had kids for attention and to use as social media props without realizing how much work having 3 kids back to back is. When things got too overwhelming, she decided to kill them and blame her meds. What else can explain her murdering her children one by one in the most painful way possible and her halfhearted suicide attempt? She clearly knew she wasn’t going to die and she wouldn’t have suffered even a tenth of the pain her kids did.

How do you know that, either? Ultimately we can guess at what she was feeling and thinking but none of us will know more until the trial.

No one thinks they will die jumping two stories.

She slashed her wrists before she jumped.

She slashed her kids wrists to bleed them out because they weren't dying fast enough.

She cut her wrists most likely shallow to feign taking her own life. If she really wanted to kill herself she would have done it. She clearly knows how to kill.

Omg where was this posted?

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Hindsight is 20/20. She doesn’t deserve freedom.

Agreed. Nonetheless, I feel empathy for her because her illness and the medication to no doubt played a role in the murders.

How do you know that? She could just be a narcissist who had kids for attention and to use as social media props without realizing how much work having 3 kids back to back is. When things got too overwhelming, she decided to kill them and blame her meds. What else can explain her murdering her children one by one in the most painful way possible and her halfhearted suicide attempt? She clearly knew she wasn’t going to die and she wouldn’t have suffered even a tenth of the pain her kids did.

This! Her social media posts make me question who she is as a person. Besides the fact she murdered her kids. I think she was always desperate for attention.

Which is exactly what most people on social media are after. She’s not unique in this aspect. It’s disgusting how narcissistic and attention seeking we have become, it’s shameful. I believe social media contributed in some way to her deteriorating mental state, it happens frequently with nonpregnant people. Everything has become a competition, even having babies is now a competition. It’s a vicious cycle, people see others on social media, want what they have, feel like they aren’t as good or as perfect as these poseur a$$holes, then they lose themselves trying to attain the unattainable, then they go to their physician because they feel inadequate and anxious and depressed, then they go on social media to discuss their deteriorating mental state, and on and on and on….

I think she is way worse than your average social media mom.

Probably. But I’m 42 (so a bit older) and I give a very wide berth to anyone I meet with an active SM presence. I’m too old for that BS.

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Anonymous wrote:Some of these responses are strait ignorance. What are you supposed to learn? Maybe more awareness of post partum depression? Post- partum psychosis? You should be grateful that you never had to experience this. It is a tragedy all around, for the entire family. The husband did not start the go fund me. I wouldn’t be surprised if he used the money to bring more awareness to PPP,PPD. I’m sure money is the last thing on his mind after he has lost his 3 children and the woman he married. Back off people, don’t put ignorant comments out there, just be thankful you’re not in this position.

You are not the board monitor. No one has to “back off” or “stop” because you demand they do so.

And we have no idea if she had PPP/PPD, and neither do you, and if she did, whether that’s an excuse for killing three children in the eyes of the law, so stuff it.

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According to her new lawyer, she was on a dozen medications at the time of the incident and the husband had told doctors she was “turning into a zombie.” You all still think he should have gone out?

Post partum depression leading to psychotic symptoms and homicide/suicide is exceedingly rare. Nobody ever thinks in advance it will be them or their loved one. The Andrea Yates case was so extreme precisely because she had suffered from it previously, was hospitalized repeatedly and warned to never have another pregnancy. The red flags were abundant that she would kill her children and Rusty should really have been prosecuted and imprisoned for the child endangering he engaged in by leaving Andrea alone with their kids.

But even if he didn't know she would kill them, he thought it was cool to leave them with a "zombie" (his words)? We are talking about a crawling baby and a 3 year old boy, in addition to the 5 year old daughter. Do you remember what its like to have a 3 year old?

And all for some stupid takeout.

He didn't kill his children by getting takeout.

No ****, Sherlock. He left his defenseless BABY and small children with a mother who he knew was unstable, in (failed) treatment on an entire pharmacy’s worth of psych meds for some stupid takeout.

But then, you already knew that.

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So, if they’d had a firearm in the house and she had successfully killed herself, would all the hateful posters here believe she was seriously mentally ill?

She was in treatment for severe post partum depression. She was on over a dozen psych meds. I cannot fathom the comments here questioning her diagnosis. Do you think it was all an elaborate six month long ruse to set up a defense for intentionally murdering her children and destroying her life?


I believe the nasty posts here are just reflecting fear. You folks are terrified by the reality of mental illness. You are terrified by the truth that brains can break just like bones and sometimes the breaking results in horror. You’re worried you’ll end up in a Dateline episode when something horrifying happens to you. Hope your kids don’t join the millions of American children struggling with mental illness. But maybe then you’d develop compassion.

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Anonymous wrote:So, if they’d had a firearm in the house and she had successfully killed herself, would all the hateful posters here believe she was seriously mentally ill?

She was in treatment for severe post partum depression. She was on over a dozen psych meds. I cannot fathom the comments here questioning her diagnosis. Do you think it was all an elaborate six month long ruse to set up a defense for intentionally murdering her children and destroying her life?


I believe the nasty posts here are just reflecting fear. You folks are terrified by the reality of mental illness. You are terrified by the truth that brains can break just like bones and sometimes the breaking results in horror. You’re worried you’ll end up in a Dateline episode when something horrifying happens to you. Hope your kids don’t join the millions of American children struggling with mental illness. But maybe then you’d develop compassion.

Possibly, yes. I think she’s just as terrible as a school shooter. I think she’s a monster, narcissist and might even possibly like the media attention.

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Anonymous wrote:So, if they’d had a firearm in the house and she had successfully killed herself, would all the hateful posters here believe she was seriously mentally ill?

She was in treatment for severe post partum depression. She was on over a dozen psych meds. I cannot fathom the comments here questioning her diagnosis. Do you think it was all an elaborate six month long ruse to set up a defense for intentionally murdering her children and destroying her life?


I believe the nasty posts here are just reflecting fear. You folks are terrified by the reality of mental illness. You are terrified by the truth that brains can break just like bones and sometimes the breaking results in horror. You’re worried you’ll end up in a Dateline episode when something horrifying happens to you. Hope your kids don’t join the millions of American children struggling with mental illness. But maybe then you’d develop compassion.

The majority of people with mental illness don’t murder their own kids. Stop trying to make this about mental illness. She’s an evil murdered. She’s not any more or less mentally ill than other murderers.

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Anonymous wrote:So, if they’d had a firearm in the house and she had successfully killed herself, would all the hateful posters here believe she was seriously mentally ill?

She was in treatment for severe post partum depression. She was on over a dozen psych meds. I cannot fathom the comments here questioning her diagnosis. Do you think it was all an elaborate six month long ruse to set up a defense for intentionally murdering her children and destroying her life?


I believe the nasty posts here are just reflecting fear. You folks are terrified by the reality of mental illness. You are terrified by the truth that brains can break just like bones and sometimes the breaking results in horror. You’re worried you’ll end up in a Dateline episode when something horrifying happens to you. Hope your kids don’t join the millions of American children struggling with mental illness. But maybe then you’d develop compassion.

Time for you to catch up her defense team isn't even going with ppp. They are instead relying on an outlandish defense

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.patriotledger.com/story/news/2023/02/03/duxburys-lindsay-clancy-to-appear-via-video-in-plymouth-court-tuesday/69870830007/

According to her new lawyer, she was on a dozen medications at the time of the incident and the husband had told doctors she was “turning into a zombie.” You all still think he should have gone out?

Post partum depression leading to psychotic symptoms and homicide/suicide is exceedingly rare. Nobody ever thinks in advance it will be them or their loved one. The Andrea Yates case was so extreme precisely because she had suffered from it previously, was hospitalized repeatedly and warned to never have another pregnancy. The red flags were abundant that she would kill her children and Rusty should really have been prosecuted and imprisoned for the child endangering he engaged in by leaving Andrea alone with their kids.

But even if he didn't know she would kill them, he thought it was cool to leave them with a "zombie" (his words)? We are talking about a crawling baby and a 3 year old boy, in addition to the 5 year old daughter. Do you remember what its like to have a 3 year old?

And all for some stupid takeout.

He didn't kill his children by getting takeout.

No ****, Sherlock. He left his defenseless BABY and small children with a mother who he knew was unstable, in (failed) treatment on an entire pharmacy’s worth of psych meds for some stupid takeout.

But then, you already knew that.

Anything to excuse the white lady always someone else

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So, if they’d had a firearm in the house and she had successfully killed herself, would all the hateful posters here believe she was seriously mentally ill?

She was in treatment for severe post partum depression. She was on over a dozen psych meds. I cannot fathom the comments here questioning her diagnosis. Do you think it was all an elaborate six month long ruse to set up a defense for intentionally murdering her children and destroying her life?


I believe the nasty posts here are just reflecting fear. You folks are terrified by the reality of mental illness. You are terrified by the truth that brains can break just like bones and sometimes the breaking results in horror. You’re worried you’ll end up in a Dateline episode when something horrifying happens to you. Hope your kids don’t join the millions of American children struggling with mental illness. But maybe then you’d develop compassion.

The majority of people with mental illness don’t murder their own kids. Stop trying to make this about mental illness. She’s an evil murdered. She’s not any more or less mentally ill than other murderers.

Nobody is “evil.“

[Anonymous]

She wasn’t on a dozen medications. She had been prescribed that amount since October. Not the same thing.

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How do you know that? She could just be a narcissist who had kids for attention and to use as social media props without realizing how much work having 3 kids back to back is. When things got too overwhelming, she decided to kill them and blame her meds. What else can explain her murdering her children one by one in the most painful way possible and her halfhearted suicide attempt? She clearly knew she wasn’t going to die and she wouldn’t have suffered even a tenth of the pain her kids did.

How do you know that, either? Ultimately we can guess at what she was feeling and thinking but none of us will know more until the trial.

No one thinks they will die jumping two stories.

This. It’s performative. She’s a coward, just like the many other people who claim they “meant” to commit murder/suicide, but somehow conveniently manage to succeed on the baby killing part and oopsie, didn’t actually manage to kill themselves.

This is deplorable posting and needs to stop.

I don't agree with the PP you're responding to but the comment is far from "deplorable." I think that term more accurately reflects the Lindsay supporters who jumped on the "Army of Love" bandwagon even before any actual facts started trickling out.

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Anonymous wrote:So, if they’d had a firearm in the house and she had successfully killed herself, would all the hateful posters here believe she was seriously mentally ill?

She was in treatment for severe post partum depression. She was on over a dozen psych meds. I cannot fathom the comments here questioning her diagnosis. Do you think it was all an elaborate six month long ruse to set up a defense for intentionally murdering her children and destroying her life?


I believe the nasty posts here are just reflecting fear. You folks are terrified by the reality of mental illness. You are terrified by the truth that brains can break just like bones and sometimes the breaking results in horror. You’re worried you’ll end up in a Dateline episode when something horrifying happens to you. Hope your kids don’t join the millions of American children struggling with mental illness. But maybe then you’d develop compassion.

The majority of people with mental illness don’t murder their own kids. Stop trying to make this about mental illness. She’s an evil murdered. She’s not any more or less mentally ill than other murderers.

Nobody is “evil.“

Except Donald Trump

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Clancy has my sympathy. She is a Labor & Delivery RN now midwife in 5 days a week outpatient treatment for postpartum depression—she was trying mightily to help herself as was her husband. Sounds like crossover to postpartum psychosis—she will be heartbroken at what she did under SEVERE mental illness. My sympathies to her children deceased, her infant, her husband and yes to her. A nightmare.

I have sympathy and she tried to off herself as well. I think Yates killed her kids and didn’t do anything to herself. But..I believe this post partum psychosis is real. She is going to have to live with this forever. The sad thing is I think a lot of this is tied to lack of sleep and so many people judge if a new mom wants help. I remember I got a lot of judgement for having a night nanny. Luckily I have a great husband who basically told me to put myself first and I did. Without sleep and without an opportunity to exercise or meet with a friend then a severe depression and can develop. It seems like her husband tried and maybe things went sideways with all the meds. Seraqual is a really powerful drug and cannot believe she was on that with others. Maybe the best thing in retrospect would have been inpatient treatment. Anyway new parents should really prioritize sleep and well being. The best thing you can do for a new mom is offer to watch the baby’s so they can nap or offer to take their other kids (if they have them) out so less chaos in the house.