Insurrection Hearings 6/28 and beyond

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Anonymous wrote:And if CH is "big", you try standing next to KM. And if the facts are too much for you, attack what a woman looks like.

You guys REALLY need some new material.

When Tucker gives you your talking points, come back so we can rip them apart with the truth.

She looked pretty good today. Like she had lost weight.

You would never even think about weight in a man.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:More about the fact, the majority of Americans just don’t care.

https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/3528682-american-apathy-weak-ratings-for-jan-6-hearings-reveal-voter-priorities/amp/

Instead, what we’re seeing is just more political theater at a time when Americans are concerned about more important things: 40-year-high inflation, record-high gas prices, skyrocketing crime, a porous border bringing in millions of illegal immigrants and record numbers dying of fentanyl. And a war in Ukraine that isn’t ending anytime soon.

There’s a “been there, done that” feel to all of this. Donald Trump was already impeached over his rhetoric that helped fuel the Capitol riot 17 months ago. More importantly, unlike President Nixon during the Watergate hearings nearly 50 years ago, which 71 percent of the country tuned in for, Trump is no longer in office.

Most of the people here breathlessly commenting on every aspect of the Kangaroo Kourt just do no represent the majority of the American people.

I disagree. I think EVERYONE is talking about it. DCUM isn't some microcosm.

Didn’t vote for Trump either time, so even your assumptions about the GOP are dead wrong!

No one in my extended circle is discussing it. Nothing about yesterday changed it. In fact, most did not see it.

And that is why trump supporters hang on - the refuse to even look at the evidence. It’s sad but understandable from a psychological perspective: their self-worth and identity were wrapped up
In trumpian concepts and they do have egos strong enough to admit they were wrong (or worse, conned).

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:More about the fact, the majority of Americans just don’t care.

https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/3528682-american-apathy-weak-ratings-for-jan-6-hearings-reveal-voter-priorities/amp/

Instead, what we’re seeing is just more political theater at a time when Americans are concerned about more important things: 40-year-high inflation, record-high gas prices, skyrocketing crime, a porous border bringing in millions of illegal immigrants and record numbers dying of fentanyl. And a war in Ukraine that isn’t ending anytime soon.

There’s a “been there, done that” feel to all of this. Donald Trump was already impeached over his rhetoric that helped fuel the Capitol riot 17 months ago. More importantly, unlike President Nixon during the Watergate hearings nearly 50 years ago, which 71 percent of the country tuned in for, Trump is no longer in office.

Most of the people here breathlessly commenting on every aspect of the Kangaroo Kourt just do no represent the majority of the American people.

I disagree. I think EVERYONE is talking about it. DCUM isn't some microcosm.

No one in my extended circle is discussing it. Nothing about yesterday changed it. In fact, most did not see it.

And that is why trump supporters hang on - the refuse to even look at the evidence. It’s sad but understandable from a psychological perspective: their self-worth and identity were wrapped up
In trumpian concepts and they do have egos strong enough to admit they were wrong (or worse, conned).

Didn’t vote for Trump. This is where you LWNJ got it all wrong. You think all GOP supports Trump.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Witness credibility has been called into question.

Why this committee would hold a hearing with a witness with 2nd hand information that has not been verified proves that this committee is purely political and not terribly credible.

Federal Rules of Evidence 801 (d). Look it up Trumper.

I suspect it has been verified.

You give this committee too much credibility.

Sour grapes!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:More about the fact, the majority of Americans just don’t care.

https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/3528682-american-apathy-weak-ratings-for-jan-6-hearings-reveal-voter-priorities/amp/

Instead, what we’re seeing is just more political theater at a time when Americans are concerned about more important things: 40-year-high inflation, record-high gas prices, skyrocketing crime, a porous border bringing in millions of illegal immigrants and record numbers dying of fentanyl. And a war in Ukraine that isn’t ending anytime soon.

There’s a “been there, done that” feel to all of this. Donald Trump was already impeached over his rhetoric that helped fuel the Capitol riot 17 months ago. More importantly, unlike President Nixon during the Watergate hearings nearly 50 years ago, which 71 percent of the country tuned in for, Trump is no longer in office.

Most of the people here breathlessly commenting on every aspect of the Kangaroo Kourt just do no represent the majority of the American people.

I disagree. I think EVERYONE is talking about it. DCUM isn't some microcosm.

You are right. DCUM isn't some microcosm. It is a far left bubble.

I think you don't know the meaning of microcosm.

Everyone ISN'T talking about this. They are working on taking care of their families with far less money in their pockets.
And, trying to keep them safe.

Are they trying to count ballots, or something, with a killer mob at your door?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:More about the fact, the majority of Americans just don’t care.

https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/3528682-american-apathy-weak-ratings-for-jan-6-hearings-reveal-voter-priorities/amp/

Instead, what we’re seeing is just more political theater at a time when Americans are concerned about more important things: 40-year-high inflation, record-high gas prices, skyrocketing crime, a porous border bringing in millions of illegal immigrants and record numbers dying of fentanyl. And a war in Ukraine that isn’t ending anytime soon.

There’s a “been there, done that” feel to all of this. Donald Trump was already impeached over his rhetoric that helped fuel the Capitol riot 17 months ago. More importantly, unlike President Nixon during the Watergate hearings nearly 50 years ago, which 71 percent of the country tuned in for, Trump is no longer in office.

Most of the people here breathlessly commenting on every aspect of the Kangaroo Kourt just do no represent the majority of the American people.

I disagree. I think EVERYONE is talking about it. DCUM isn't some microcosm.

No one in my extended circle is discussing it. Nothing about yesterday changed it. In fact, most did not see it.

And that is why trump supporters hang on - the refuse to even look at the evidence. It’s sad but understandable from a psychological perspective: their self-worth and identity were wrapped up
In trumpian concepts and they do have egos strong enough to admit they were wrong (or worse, conned).

Didn’t vote for Trump. This is where you LWNJ got it all wrong. You think all GOP supports Trump.

RINO? you have no power

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:More about the fact, the majority of Americans just don’t care.

https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/3528682-american-apathy-weak-ratings-for-jan-6-hearings-reveal-voter-priorities/amp/

Instead, what we’re seeing is just more political theater at a time when Americans are concerned about more important things: 40-year-high inflation, record-high gas prices, skyrocketing crime, a porous border bringing in millions of illegal immigrants and record numbers dying of fentanyl. And a war in Ukraine that isn’t ending anytime soon.

There’s a “been there, done that” feel to all of this. Donald Trump was already impeached over his rhetoric that helped fuel the Capitol riot 17 months ago. More importantly, unlike President Nixon during the Watergate hearings nearly 50 years ago, which 71 percent of the country tuned in for, Trump is no longer in office.

Most of the people here breathlessly commenting on every aspect of the Kangaroo Kourt just do no represent the majority of the American people.

I disagree. I think EVERYONE is talking about it. DCUM isn't some microcosm.

No one in my extended circle is discussing it. Nothing about yesterday changed it. In fact, most did not see it.

And that is why trump supporters hang on - the refuse to even look at the evidence. It’s sad but understandable from a psychological perspective: their self-worth and identity were wrapped up
In trumpian concepts and they do have egos strong enough to admit they were wrong (or worse, conned).

Didn’t vote for Trump. This is where you LWNJ got it all wrong. You think all GOP supports Trump.

If you don't support Trump, you're no longer Republican. The party is his now.

And if you're deliberately ignoring the commission, you're just afraid of the truth.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So the GOP in the House and Senate who knew all of this was planned, and were part of the planning and still didn't vote to impeach Trump....go figure.

THEY SHOULD ALL BE IN JAIL.

I don’t think jail is enough. They conspired to overthrow the government.

A firing squad is the punishment for sedition or treason.

+1 Trump endorsed too. SC has added it to the menu for death row prisoners.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Never ever in the history of testimony has someone ever given false testimony!

The ratings of these hearings are deplorable. The vast majority of the country has moved on. This grandstanding non both sides is wasting time and money. The country has moved on and is worried about inflation, crumbling infrastructure, and high gas prices. They really do not care as much as the small minority of posters here seem to think they do or should.

Completely false. Millions are watching. Millions want accountability.

MILLIONS are not watching. The ratings do not reflect.

They are watching. They are watching streaming which isn’t recorded by the ratings.

For every 1 person watching tv I know 20 who watch later via streaming.

Wrong. Nielsen +7 accounts for streaming.

No one I know on the left or right is watching nor do they care one bit!

You can keep telling yourself that until the cows come home but it simply is not true. I and everyone I know cares deeply and is following the hearings. Polls prove you wrong.

We are the suburban mothers who catch up on news when we can. We are also a major voting block.

Even the note she said she wrote and identified as her own handwriting is NOT true.

It's not? It's false? Have you read the thread?

I have. And this is my summation:

Trump tried to carjack the beast from way way in the back seat (stretch limo) and to do so, turned into elastic man to grab the driver’s clavicle. The men who have served four different presidents without an infraction are now lying sacks of crap (though clearly good enough to serve Obama) and this young woman is a hero. Did I sum that up right?

If you are talking about the Secret Service they have a history of being drunk “lying sacks of crap”. The SS personal involve are all trump loyalists and were replaced as soon as trump was forced from office. These same SS agents were not trusted by Pence. Pence refused to get into the car controlled by SS agents. He was tipped out. It is interesting the no one has come out on record from the secret service? Also why are you lying about the vehicle. It was an SUV. There is video of it.

Now if you want to throw shade we should question the SS agents who disobeyed a direct order from the president. He wanted to go to the Capitol. The SS has no authority to over rule the president. Too bad for you and your fail insurrection. Would have been a lot more killed if trump had made it to the Capitol.

These same SS agents served Obama as well. And two other Presidents besides Trump.

Ornato is a Trump political operative.

"Trump installed Tony Ornato -- his former lead US Secret Service agent --- as deputy chief of staff for operations in part bc FLOTUS --- then chief preferred him over Max Miller. But the move unnerved West Wing aides who knew the Secret Service was supposed to be non-political."
https://twitter.com/hugolowell/status/1518329760547540995

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"[S]enior Secret Service official Anthony Ornato was detailed to White House as a Trump political adviser. He's now back at USSS."
https://twitter.com/jkuhnhenn/status/1518321475173994498

We don’t know what Ornato’s angle is because he has not made any public statements yet. It’s best not to assume anything. He’s obviously testified. So if she said anything that contradicted his testimony he’d be defending himself from perjury. He’s not. Who knows show these “sources” are?

All these guys are going to understate what Trump did and said because they all want to stay tight with the Republican patronage network. The truth doesn’t get you sweet high-paying gigs.

They aren’t going to lie under oath though.

They don’t have to lie, tell the truth that Trump was upset about not going to the Capitol but not offering details. The under oath version would be flat and bland but it’s the same story about Trump’s intent and state of mind. Only MAGA dupes think the steering wheel is a smoking gun.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:More about the fact, the majority of Americans just don’t care.

https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/3528682-american-apathy-weak-ratings-for-jan-6-hearings-reveal-voter-priorities/amp/

Instead, what we’re seeing is just more political theater at a time when Americans are concerned about more important things: 40-year-high inflation, record-high gas prices, skyrocketing crime, a porous border bringing in millions of illegal immigrants and record numbers dying of fentanyl. And a war in Ukraine that isn’t ending anytime soon.

There’s a “been there, done that” feel to all of this. Donald Trump was already impeached over his rhetoric that helped fuel the Capitol riot 17 months ago. More importantly, unlike President Nixon during the Watergate hearings nearly 50 years ago, which 71 percent of the country tuned in for, Trump is no longer in office.

Most of the people here breathlessly commenting on every aspect of the Kangaroo Kourt just do no represent the majority of the American people.

I disagree. I think EVERYONE is talking about it. DCUM isn't some microcosm.

No one in my extended circle is discussing it. Nothing about yesterday changed it. In fact, most did not see it.

And that is why trump supporters hang on - the refuse to even look at the evidence. It’s sad but understandable from a psychological perspective: their self-worth and identity were wrapped up
In trumpian concepts and they do have egos strong enough to admit they were wrong (or worse, conned).

Didn’t vote for Trump. This is where you LWNJ got it all wrong. You think all GOP supports Trump.

If you don't support Trump, you're no longer Republican. The party is his now.

And if you're deliberately ignoring the commission, you're just afraid of the truth.

You are really a fool if you believe the Republican Party is his now. Step away from the LWNJ websites and get to know some actual republicans. You think we are all pro life gun carrying nutcases. You don’t want discussions you are the ones who want anarchy!

[Anonymous]

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No, it's not. They are two different vehicles.

Your fixation on what model vehicle he was using is weird. If Trump was being peddled around on a tandem bike, that wouldn't make this situation any better.

It makes a difference because the 'beast' has a shield that would have prevented him from reaching the driver

Evidently, you have never been in a chauffered limo. There is a partition and a button that that the passenger can push and, viola, the partition rolls down!!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:More about the fact, the majority of Americans just don’t care.

https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/3528682-american-apathy-weak-ratings-for-jan-6-hearings-reveal-voter-priorities/amp/

Instead, what we’re seeing is just more political theater at a time when Americans are concerned about more important things: 40-year-high inflation, record-high gas prices, skyrocketing crime, a porous border bringing in millions of illegal immigrants and record numbers dying of fentanyl. And a war in Ukraine that isn’t ending anytime soon.

There’s a “been there, done that” feel to all of this. Donald Trump was already impeached over his rhetoric that helped fuel the Capitol riot 17 months ago. More importantly, unlike President Nixon during the Watergate hearings nearly 50 years ago, which 71 percent of the country tuned in for, Trump is no longer in office.

Most of the people here breathlessly commenting on every aspect of the Kangaroo Kourt just do no represent the majority of the American people.

I disagree. I think EVERYONE is talking about it. DCUM isn't some microcosm.

No one in my extended circle is discussing it. Nothing about yesterday changed it. In fact, most did not see it.

And that is why trump supporters hang on - the refuse to even look at the evidence. It’s sad but understandable from a psychological perspective: their self-worth and identity were wrapped up
In trumpian concepts and they do have egos strong enough to admit they were wrong (or worse, conned).

Didn’t vote for Trump. This is where you LWNJ got it all wrong. You think all GOP supports Trump.

If you don't support Trump, you're no longer Republican. The party is his now.

And if you're deliberately ignoring the commission, you're just afraid of the truth.

You are really a fool if you believe the Republican Party is his now. Step away from the LWNJ websites and get to know some actual republicans. You think we are all pro life gun carrying nutcases. You don’t want discussions you are the ones who want anarchy!

Oh goodness, the rats are leaving the sinking ship. Even Murdoch papers were on a roll.

[Anonymous]

French person here.
Our news reporters were certainly talking about this hearing the next day!

I believe BBC News still makes it a big thing on their website.

When the media does this, it trickles down in one form or another to the large swathe of the population that did not watch the live hearing. The media is instrumental in shaping information. For good or ill, it WILL change people's opinions on Jan 6th.

[Anonymous]

The Jan. 6 committee didn’t reach out to the Secret Service in the days before it aired explosive testimony about an alleged physical altercation between Donald Trump and his security detail on the day of the riot, according to an agency spokesperson.

Anthony Guglielmi, the service’s chief of communications, told POLITICO that select committee investigators did not ask Secret Service personnel to reappear or answer questions in writing in the 10 days before asking Hutchinson about the matter at the hearing.

“[W]e were not asked to reappear before the Committee in response to yesterday’s new information and we plan on formally responding on the record,” he wrote in an email. “We have and will continue to make any member of the Secret Service available.”

The Secret Service statement comes amid questions about two aspects of Hutchinson’s testimony: the story about Trump’s behavior in his presidential vehicle, which Hutchinson said was relayed to her by top White House security aide Tony Ornato; and her claim to have written a note about a potential Trump statement that would’ve aimed to quell the Jan. 6 violence.

And the committee’s lack of outreach in the days before Hutchinson’s hearing is notable because the Secret Service has said Jan. 6 investigators can access any documents or witnesses they deem relevant.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What was such an emergency about Hutchinson's testimony that it had to be rushed for a special session?

She had already said a lot of things on tape and some of it had been aired in snippets on previous days.

Why not just wait a few days until August, as the committee had previously planned?

Her testimony of secondhand gossip has already fallen apart. The agents who were actually in the car said she’s lying. Oops.

What is it that y'all like to say? "I love your tears"?

Your desperation is showing, dear.