ECNL moving to school year not calendar

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When US Club is ready to put a period on the conversation around 2025 they will update their website with the final answer. Hasn't happened yet....and don't tell me it's an IT or software issue. Just let us know division my 2011 is playing in next season. They aren't ready to give you the answer to that yet. Be patient.

They hired US Soccer's compliance person the day after the Nov 22 meeting. They are working on a rollout but these things take time, they are dotting I's and crossing T's.

Many ECNL clubs have already indicated to their membership that there is no change next year, but beyond next year there might be change, the details of which are still TBD.

Yes my clubs director told us the same. No change for next year. Unless ecnl have something up their sleeve no changes will be happening. So if your kid is a 2012 Q3/4 congratulations they never have to be trapped.

My kid is 2012 Q4. How do you mean? She was trapped in 2024. Unfortunately looks like she'll be trapped in 2025. And MAYBE by 8th grade she'll actually get to play with her own grade and avoid some of the real issues with being trapped. Are you just referencing the 8th grade situation or am I missing something? 2025 would be ideal because its the first year of ECNL for 7th graders and she can align with a team that'll hopefully stay together for a while.

On paper, unless she played up on a team that had/has HS freshmen OR skipped a grade(s), she wouldn't be trapped until 26-27. Or, please enlighten us on how she was trapped this year AND next year? I guess it wouldn't surprise that there are even more scenarios with the US having so many different schooling choices/systems.

It's my self definition of trapped. I see trapped as she can't play with her grade. And it's almost worse knowing she WILL be playing with her grade but not yet! For the 6-8th grade group this issue is urgent. Its been a broken system and the sooner its fixed the more likely to ensure we don't get early dropout.

There is an actual definition for a trapped player. You don't get to self define.

You must have a better dictionary than I do because it was nowhere to be found in my websters. Regardless, the implications for my daughter getting established this year vs next at this age are huge. The ECNL teams are already established for 2012. We did GA this year (a mistake I'd rather not repeat). I'd like to get her into the ECNL ecosystem sooner than later but one, it'll be hard to disrupt a current team as a November bday if they are all older and in the system. Two, that's alot of effort for one year and we are there are tons of competitive teams so getting this figured out would likely change her development path. Not the end of the world but obviously better to do this asap.

I wouldnt worry too much. The competivive balance will make sure your daughter has the options you want. 50% of ECNL Rosters in 24 months will be September to December.

Good point and she's lucky it'll be her 8th grade year in 2026.

Clubs who refuse to adapt won't win.... Just keep your daughter healthy and she will get her spot if she can play. Check out the 2013's if you want to see what she has to compete with. I know you will be happy after you do.

Nope, maybe in 6 years when all thr youngers come up but not immediately.

I've seen some seriously taleted kids try playing a year up and not sniff the field at a top 5 ECNL program in the country. I think people will be really shocked when RAE is layed out for all to see. This might be the best thing to ever happen to US youth soccer.

I haven't read this whole thread, so maybe it's already been said. But this has zero effect on RAE other than to e the line.

Don't worry. There's a guy that hangs around to remind us of just that anytime we mention BY going away. We get it. We know. We don't care. Nobody wants SY because it eliminates RAE. It's all about the trapped players and this stupid system we've created to try and get around them.

They remind you that RAE is the same under BY and SY because you keep trying to justify SY by saying that it will minimize RAE which is blatantly false.

We get that you're trying every angle you can to give your kid an advantage. But just take them to the park and work on shooting it will help them way more than tilting the rules in their favor.

Why would anyone bother justifying SY at this point? Done deal.

It's up to the leagues. If some likes BY, they should push/advocate that, especially if their kid is born earlier in the year. That's what parents of kids who were trapped did and they were able to get where we are now. It actually would benefit the whole system if it ends up that way.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When US Club is ready to put a period on the conversation around 2025 they will update their website with the final answer. Hasn't happened yet....and don't tell me it's an IT or software issue. Just let us know division my 2011 is playing in next season. They aren't ready to give you the answer to that yet. Be patient.

They hired US Soccer's compliance person the day after the Nov 22 meeting. They are working on a rollout but these things take time, they are dotting I's and crossing T's.

Many ECNL clubs have already indicated to their membership that there is no change next year, but beyond next year there might be change, the details of which are still TBD.

Yes my clubs director told us the same. No change for next year. Unless ecnl have something up their sleeve no changes will be happening. So if your kid is a 2012 Q3/4 congratulations they never have to be trapped.

My kid is 2012 Q4. How do you mean? She was trapped in 2024. Unfortunately looks like she'll be trapped in 2025. And MAYBE by 8th grade she'll actually get to play with her own grade and avoid some of the real issues with being trapped. Are you just referencing the 8th grade situation or am I missing something? 2025 would be ideal because its the first year of ECNL for 7th graders and she can align with a team that'll hopefully stay together for a while.

On paper, unless she played up on a team that had/has HS freshmen OR skipped a grade(s), she wouldn't be trapped until 26-27. Or, please enlighten us on how she was trapped this year AND next year? I guess it wouldn't surprise that there are even more scenarios with the US having so many different schooling choices/systems.

It's my self definition of trapped. I see trapped as she can't play with her grade. And it's almost worse knowing she WILL be playing with her grade but not yet! For the 6-8th grade group this issue is urgent. Its been a broken system and the sooner its fixed the more likely to ensure we don't get early dropout.

There is an actual definition for a trapped player. You don't get to self define.

You must have a better dictionary than I do because it was nowhere to be found in my websters. Regardless, the implications for my daughter getting established this year vs next at this age are huge. The ECNL teams are already established for 2012. We did GA this year (a mistake I'd rather not repeat). I'd like to get her into the ECNL ecosystem sooner than later but one, it'll be hard to disrupt a current team as a November bday if they are all older and in the system. Two, that's alot of effort for one year and we are there are tons of competitive teams so getting this figured out would likely change her development path. Not the end of the world but obviously better to do this asap.

I wouldnt worry too much. The competivive balance will make sure your daughter has the options you want. 50% of ECNL Rosters in 24 months will be September to December.

Good point and she's lucky it'll be her 8th grade year in 2026.

Clubs who refuse to adapt won't win.... Just keep your daughter healthy and she will get her spot if she can play. Check out the 2013's if you want to see what she has to compete with. I know you will be happy after you do.

Nope, maybe in 6 years when all thr youngers come up but not immediately.

I've seen some seriously taleted kids try playing a year up and not sniff the field at a top 5 ECNL program in the country. I think people will be really shocked when RAE is layed out for all to see. This might be the best thing to ever happen to US youth soccer.

I haven't read this whole thread, so maybe it's already been said. But this has zero effect on RAE other than to e the line.

Don't worry. There's a guy that hangs around to remind us of just that anytime we mention BY going away. We get it. We know. We don't care. Nobody wants SY because it eliminates RAE. It's all about the trapped players and this stupid system we've created to try and get around them.

They remind you that RAE is the same under BY and SY because you keep trying to justify SY by saying that it will minimize RAE which is blatantly false.

We get that you're trying every angle you can to give your kid an advantage. But just take them to the park and work on shooting it will help them way more than tilting the rules in their favor.

Why would anyone bother justifying SY at this point? Done deal.

It's up to the leagues. If some likes BY, they should push/advocate that, especially if their kid is born earlier in the year. That's what parents of kids who were trapped did and they were able to get where we are now. It actually would benefit the whole system if it ends up that way.

Leagues didn't fight for the right to change to keep the status quo. No need to justify SY at this point.

Q4 kids who are about in say 6 grade or younger just had their chances of playing college soccer in rise quite a bit making the increased synergy of playing extra soccer in the park now worth it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When US Club is ready to put a period on the conversation around 2025 they will update their website with the final answer. Hasn't happened yet....and don't tell me it's an IT or software issue. Just let us know division my 2011 is playing in next season. They aren't ready to give you the answer to that yet. Be patient.

They hired US Soccer's compliance person the day after the Nov 22 meeting. They are working on a rollout but these things take time, they are dotting I's and crossing T's.

Many ECNL clubs have already indicated to their membership that there is no change next year, but beyond next year there might be change, the details of which are still TBD.

Yes my clubs director told us the same. No change for next year. Unless ecnl have something up their sleeve no changes will be happening. So if your kid is a 2012 Q3/4 congratulations they never have to be trapped.

My kid is 2012 Q4. How do you mean? She was trapped in 2024. Unfortunately looks like she'll be trapped in 2025. And MAYBE by 8th grade she'll actually get to play with her own grade and avoid some of the real issues with being trapped. Are you just referencing the 8th grade situation or am I missing something? 2025 would be ideal because its the first year of ECNL for 7th graders and she can align with a team that'll hopefully stay together for a while.

On paper, unless she played up on a team that had/has HS freshmen OR skipped a grade(s), she wouldn't be trapped until 26-27. Or, please enlighten us on how she was trapped this year AND next year? I guess it wouldn't surprise that there are even more scenarios with the US having so many different schooling choices/systems.

It's my self definition of trapped. I see trapped as she can't play with her grade. And it's almost worse knowing she WILL be playing with her grade but not yet! For the 6-8th grade group this issue is urgent. Its been a broken system and the sooner its fixed the more likely to ensure we don't get early dropout.

There is an actual definition for a trapped player. You don't get to self define.

You must have a better dictionary than I do because it was nowhere to be found in my websters. Regardless, the implications for my daughter getting established this year vs next at this age are huge. The ECNL teams are already established for 2012. We did GA this year (a mistake I'd rather not repeat). I'd like to get her into the ECNL ecosystem sooner than later but one, it'll be hard to disrupt a current team as a November bday if they are all older and in the system. Two, that's alot of effort for one year and we are there are tons of competitive teams so getting this figured out would likely change her development path. Not the end of the world but obviously better to do this asap.

I wouldnt worry too much. The competivive balance will make sure your daughter has the options you want. 50% of ECNL Rosters in 24 months will be September to December.

Good point and she's lucky it'll be her 8th grade year in 2026.

Clubs who refuse to adapt won't win.... Just keep your daughter healthy and she will get her spot if she can play. Check out the 2013's if you want to see what she has to compete with. I know you will be happy after you do.

Nope, maybe in 6 years when all thr youngers come up but not immediately.

I've seen some seriously taleted kids try playing a year up and not sniff the field at a top 5 ECNL program in the country. I think people will be really shocked when RAE is layed out for all to see. This might be the best thing to ever happen to US youth soccer.

I haven't read this whole thread, so maybe it's already been said. But this has zero effect on RAE other than to e the line.

Don't worry. There's a guy that hangs around to remind us of just that anytime we mention BY going away. We get it. We know. We don't care. Nobody wants SY because it eliminates RAE. It's all about the trapped players and this stupid system we've created to try and get around them.

They remind you that RAE is the same under BY and SY because you keep trying to justify SY by saying that it will minimize RAE which is blatantly false.

We get that you're trying every angle you can to give your kid an advantage. But just take them to the park and work on shooting it will help them way more than tilting the rules in their favor.

lol! Are you sure you're not that guy?! If not, you guys should meet. You'd be fast friends. So even when I say 'Nobody wants SY because it eliminates RAE', you somehow misread that as 'you keep trying to justify SY by saying it will minimize RAE'??? Oh, to live in your head for just a day.

Not sure how else to help you here. I know you're scared of what's coming. Deep breathes...you'll be okay.

You must be the fun parent that everyone enjoys being around.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When US Club is ready to put a period on the conversation around 2025 they will update their website with the final answer. Hasn't happened yet....and don't tell me it's an IT or software issue. Just let us know division my 2011 is playing in next season. They aren't ready to give you the answer to that yet. Be patient.

They hired US Soccer's compliance person the day after the Nov 22 meeting. They are working on a rollout but these things take time, they are dotting I's and crossing T's.

Many ECNL clubs have already indicated to their membership that there is no change next year, but beyond next year there might be change, the details of which are still TBD.

Yes my clubs director told us the same. No change for next year. Unless ecnl have something up their sleeve no changes will be happening. So if your kid is a 2012 Q3/4 congratulations they never have to be trapped.

My kid is 2012 Q4. How do you mean? She was trapped in 2024. Unfortunately looks like she'll be trapped in 2025. And MAYBE by 8th grade she'll actually get to play with her own grade and avoid some of the real issues with being trapped. Are you just referencing the 8th grade situation or am I missing something? 2025 would be ideal because its the first year of ECNL for 7th graders and she can align with a team that'll hopefully stay together for a while.

On paper, unless she played up on a team that had/has HS freshmen OR skipped a grade(s), she wouldn't be trapped until 26-27. Or, please enlighten us on how she was trapped this year AND next year? I guess it wouldn't surprise that there are even more scenarios with the US having so many different schooling choices/systems.

It's my self definition of trapped. I see trapped as she can't play with her grade. And it's almost worse knowing she WILL be playing with her grade but not yet! For the 6-8th grade group this issue is urgent. Its been a broken system and the sooner its fixed the more likely to ensure we don't get early dropout.

There is an actual definition for a trapped player. You don't get to self define.

You must have a better dictionary than I do because it was nowhere to be found in my websters. Regardless, the implications for my daughter getting established this year vs next at this age are huge. The ECNL teams are already established for 2012. We did GA this year (a mistake I'd rather not repeat). I'd like to get her into the ECNL ecosystem sooner than later but one, it'll be hard to disrupt a current team as a November bday if they are all older and in the system. Two, that's alot of effort for one year and we are there are tons of competitive teams so getting this figured out would likely change her development path. Not the end of the world but obviously better to do this asap.

I wouldnt worry too much. The competivive balance will make sure your daughter has the options you want. 50% of ECNL Rosters in 24 months will be September to December.

Good point and she's lucky it'll be her 8th grade year in 2026.

Clubs who refuse to adapt won't win.... Just keep your daughter healthy and she will get her spot if she can play. Check out the 2013's if you want to see what she has to compete with. I know you will be happy after you do.

Nope, maybe in 6 years when all thr youngers come up but not immediately.

I've seen some seriously taleted kids try playing a year up and not sniff the field at a top 5 ECNL program in the country. I think people will be really shocked when RAE is layed out for all to see. This might be the best thing to ever happen to US youth soccer.

I haven't read this whole thread, so maybe it's already been said. But this has zero effect on RAE other than to e the line.

Don't worry. There's a guy that hangs around to remind us of just that anytime we mention BY going away. We get it. We know. We don't care. Nobody wants SY because it eliminates RAE. It's all about the trapped players and this stupid system we've created to try and get around them.

They remind you that RAE is the same under BY and SY because you keep trying to justify SY by saying that it will minimize RAE which is blatantly false.

We get that you're trying every angle you can to give your kid an advantage. But just take them to the park and work on shooting it will help them way more than tilting the rules in their favor.

Why would anyone bother justifying SY at this point? Done deal.

It's up to the leagues. If some likes BY, they should push/advocate that, especially if their kid is born earlier in the year. That's what parents of kids who were trapped did and they were able to get where we are now. It actually would benefit the whole system if it ends up that way.

I think there's a very good chance that this is what happens.

The girl dad's don't understand that ECNL is 2nd tier to MLSN for boys.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When US Club is ready to put a period on the conversation around 2025 they will update their website with the final answer. Hasn't happened yet....and don't tell me it's an IT or software issue. Just let us know division my 2011 is playing in next season. They aren't ready to give you the answer to that yet. Be patient.

They hired US Soccer's compliance person the day after the Nov 22 meeting. They are working on a rollout but these things take time, they are dotting I's and crossing T's.

Many ECNL clubs have already indicated to their membership that there is no change next year, but beyond next year there might be change, the details of which are still TBD.

Yes my clubs director told us the same. No change for next year. Unless ecnl have something up their sleeve no changes will be happening. So if your kid is a 2012 Q3/4 congratulations they never have to be trapped.

My kid is 2012 Q4. How do you mean? She was trapped in 2024. Unfortunately looks like she'll be trapped in 2025. And MAYBE by 8th grade she'll actually get to play with her own grade and avoid some of the real issues with being trapped. Are you just referencing the 8th grade situation or am I missing something? 2025 would be ideal because its the first year of ECNL for 7th graders and she can align with a team that'll hopefully stay together for a while.

On paper, unless she played up on a team that had/has HS freshmen OR skipped a grade(s), she wouldn't be trapped until 26-27. Or, please enlighten us on how she was trapped this year AND next year? I guess it wouldn't surprise that there are even more scenarios with the US having so many different schooling choices/systems.

It's my self definition of trapped. I see trapped as she can't play with her grade. And it's almost worse knowing she WILL be playing with her grade but not yet! For the 6-8th grade group this issue is urgent. Its been a broken system and the sooner its fixed the more likely to ensure we don't get early dropout.

There is an actual definition for a trapped player. You don't get to self define.

You must have a better dictionary than I do because it was nowhere to be found in my websters. Regardless, the implications for my daughter getting established this year vs next at this age are huge. The ECNL teams are already established for 2012. We did GA this year (a mistake I'd rather not repeat). I'd like to get her into the ECNL ecosystem sooner than later but one, it'll be hard to disrupt a current team as a November bday if they are all older and in the system. Two, that's alot of effort for one year and we are there are tons of competitive teams so getting this figured out would likely change her development path. Not the end of the world but obviously better to do this asap.

I wouldnt worry too much. The competivive balance will make sure your daughter has the options you want. 50% of ECNL Rosters in 24 months will be September to December.

Good point and she's lucky it'll be her 8th grade year in 2026.

Clubs who refuse to adapt won't win.... Just keep your daughter healthy and she will get her spot if she can play. Check out the 2013's if you want to see what she has to compete with. I know you will be happy after you do.

Nope, maybe in 6 years when all thr youngers come up but not immediately.

I've seen some seriously taleted kids try playing a year up and not sniff the field at a top 5 ECNL program in the country. I think people will be really shocked when RAE is layed out for all to see. This might be the best thing to ever happen to US youth soccer.

I haven't read this whole thread, so maybe it's already been said. But this has zero effect on RAE other than to e the line.

Don't worry. There's a guy that hangs around to remind us of just that anytime we mention BY going away. We get it. We know. We don't care. Nobody wants SY because it eliminates RAE. It's all about the trapped players and this stupid system we've created to try and get around them.

They remind you that RAE is the same under BY and SY because you keep trying to justify SY by saying that it will minimize RAE which is blatantly false.

We get that you're trying every angle you can to give your kid an advantage. But just take them to the park and work on shooting it will help them way more than tilting the rules in their favor.

Why would anyone bother justifying SY at this point? Done deal.

It's up to the leagues. If some likes BY, they should push/advocate that, especially if their kid is born earlier in the year. That's what parents of kids who were trapped did and they were able to get where we are now. It actually would benefit the whole system if it ends up that way.

Leagues didn't fight for the right to change to keep the status quo. No need to justify SY at this point.

Q4 kids who are about in say 6 grade or younger just had their chances of playing college soccer in rise quite a bit making the increased synergy of playing extra soccer in the park now worth it.

Not advocating for the status quo. Advocating for something even better. We should all be for that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When US Club is ready to put a period on the conversation around 2025 they will update their website with the final answer. Hasn't happened yet....and don't tell me it's an IT or software issue. Just let us know division my 2011 is playing in next season. They aren't ready to give you the answer to that yet. Be patient.

They hired US Soccer's compliance person the day after the Nov 22 meeting. They are working on a rollout but these things take time, they are dotting I's and crossing T's.

Many ECNL clubs have already indicated to their membership that there is no change next year, but beyond next year there might be change, the details of which are still TBD.

Yes my clubs director told us the same. No change for next year. Unless ecnl have something up their sleeve no changes will be happening. So if your kid is a 2012 Q3/4 congratulations they never have to be trapped.

My kid is 2012 Q4. How do you mean? She was trapped in 2024. Unfortunately looks like she'll be trapped in 2025. And MAYBE by 8th grade she'll actually get to play with her own grade and avoid some of the real issues with being trapped. Are you just referencing the 8th grade situation or am I missing something? 2025 would be ideal because its the first year of ECNL for 7th graders and she can align with a team that'll hopefully stay together for a while.

On paper, unless she played up on a team that had/has HS freshmen OR skipped a grade(s), she wouldn't be trapped until 26-27. Or, please enlighten us on how she was trapped this year AND next year? I guess it wouldn't surprise that there are even more scenarios with the US having so many different schooling choices/systems.

It's my self definition of trapped. I see trapped as she can't play with her grade. And it's almost worse knowing she WILL be playing with her grade but not yet! For the 6-8th grade group this issue is urgent. Its been a broken system and the sooner its fixed the more likely to ensure we don't get early dropout.

There is an actual definition for a trapped player. You don't get to self define.

You must have a better dictionary than I do because it was nowhere to be found in my websters. Regardless, the implications for my daughter getting established this year vs next at this age are huge. The ECNL teams are already established for 2012. We did GA this year (a mistake I'd rather not repeat). I'd like to get her into the ECNL ecosystem sooner than later but one, it'll be hard to disrupt a current team as a November bday if they are all older and in the system. Two, that's alot of effort for one year and we are there are tons of competitive teams so getting this figured out would likely change her development path. Not the end of the world but obviously better to do this asap.

I wouldnt worry too much. The competivive balance will make sure your daughter has the options you want. 50% of ECNL Rosters in 24 months will be September to December.

Good point and she's lucky it'll be her 8th grade year in 2026.

Clubs who refuse to adapt won't win.... Just keep your daughter healthy and she will get her spot if she can play. Check out the 2013's if you want to see what she has to compete with. I know you will be happy after you do.

Nope, maybe in 6 years when all thr youngers come up but not immediately.

I've seen some seriously taleted kids try playing a year up and not sniff the field at a top 5 ECNL program in the country. I think people will be really shocked when RAE is layed out for all to see. This might be the best thing to ever happen to US youth soccer.

I haven't read this whole thread, so maybe it's already been said. But this has zero effect on RAE other than to e the line.

Don't worry. There's a guy that hangs around to remind us of just that anytime we mention BY going away. We get it. We know. We don't care. Nobody wants SY because it eliminates RAE. It's all about the trapped players and this stupid system we've created to try and get around them.

They remind you that RAE is the same under BY and SY because you keep trying to justify SY by saying that it will minimize RAE which is blatantly false.

We get that you're trying every angle you can to give your kid an advantage. But just take them to the park and work on shooting it will help them way more than tilting the rules in their favor.

Why would anyone bother justifying SY at this point? Done deal.

It's up to the leagues. If some likes BY, they should push/advocate that, especially if their kid is born earlier in the year. That's what parents of kids who were trapped did and they were able to get where we are now. It actually would benefit the whole system if it ends up that way.

I think there's a very good chance that this is what happens.

The girl dad's don't understand that ECNL is 2nd tier to MLSN for boys.

Ha! I think you take a lack of caring as misunderstanding. If you're angry that your kid is second rate don't express your angry at those of with top tier kids. I hope your boy improves, then maybe you can join the MLSN thread and leave us champions alone. Good luck!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When US Club is ready to put a period on the conversation around 2025 they will update their website with the final answer. Hasn't happened yet....and don't tell me it's an IT or software issue. Just let us know division my 2011 is playing in next season. They aren't ready to give you the answer to that yet. Be patient.

They hired US Soccer's compliance person the day after the Nov 22 meeting. They are working on a rollout but these things take time, they are dotting I's and crossing T's.

Many ECNL clubs have already indicated to their membership that there is no change next year, but beyond next year there might be change, the details of which are still TBD.

Yes my clubs director told us the same. No change for next year. Unless ecnl have something up their sleeve no changes will be happening. So if your kid is a 2012 Q3/4 congratulations they never have to be trapped.

My kid is 2012 Q4. How do you mean? She was trapped in 2024. Unfortunately looks like she'll be trapped in 2025. And MAYBE by 8th grade she'll actually get to play with her own grade and avoid some of the real issues with being trapped. Are you just referencing the 8th grade situation or am I missing something? 2025 would be ideal because its the first year of ECNL for 7th graders and she can align with a team that'll hopefully stay together for a while.

On paper, unless she played up on a team that had/has HS freshmen OR skipped a grade(s), she wouldn't be trapped until 26-27. Or, please enlighten us on how she was trapped this year AND next year? I guess it wouldn't surprise that there are even more scenarios with the US having so many different schooling choices/systems.

It's my self definition of trapped. I see trapped as she can't play with her grade. And it's almost worse knowing she WILL be playing with her grade but not yet! For the 6-8th grade group this issue is urgent. Its been a broken system and the sooner its fixed the more likely to ensure we don't get early dropout.

There is an actual definition for a trapped player. You don't get to self define.

You must have a better dictionary than I do because it was nowhere to be found in my websters. Regardless, the implications for my daughter getting established this year vs next at this age are huge. The ECNL teams are already established for 2012. We did GA this year (a mistake I'd rather not repeat). I'd like to get her into the ECNL ecosystem sooner than later but one, it'll be hard to disrupt a current team as a November bday if they are all older and in the system. Two, that's alot of effort for one year and we are there are tons of competitive teams so getting this figured out would likely change her development path. Not the end of the world but obviously better to do this asap.

I wouldnt worry too much. The competivive balance will make sure your daughter has the options you want. 50% of ECNL Rosters in 24 months will be September to December.

Good point and she's lucky it'll be her 8th grade year in 2026.

Clubs who refuse to adapt won't win.... Just keep your daughter healthy and she will get her spot if she can play. Check out the 2013's if you want to see what she has to compete with. I know you will be happy after you do.

Nope, maybe in 6 years when all thr youngers come up but not immediately.

I've seen some seriously taleted kids try playing a year up and not sniff the field at a top 5 ECNL program in the country. I think people will be really shocked when RAE is layed out for all to see. This might be the best thing to ever happen to US youth soccer.

I haven't read this whole thread, so maybe it's already been said. But this has zero effect on RAE other than to e the line.

Don't worry. There's a guy that hangs around to remind us of just that anytime we mention BY going away. We get it. We know. We don't care. Nobody wants SY because it eliminates RAE. It's all about the trapped players and this stupid system we've created to try and get around them.

They remind you that RAE is the same under BY and SY because you keep trying to justify SY by saying that it will minimize RAE which is blatantly false.

We get that you're trying every angle you can to give your kid an advantage. But just take them to the park and work on shooting it will help them way more than tilting the rules in their favor.

Why would anyone bother justifying SY at this point? Done deal.

It's up to the leagues. If some likes BY, they should push/advocate that, especially if their kid is born earlier in the year. That's what parents of kids who were trapped did and they were able to get where we are now. It actually would benefit the whole system if it ends up that way.

I think there's a very good chance that this is what happens.

The girl dad's don't understand that ECNL is 2nd tier to MLSN for boys.

Ha! I think you take a lack of caring as misunderstanding. If you're angry that your kid is second rate don't express your angry at those of with top tier kids. I hope your boy improves, then maybe you can join the MLSN thread and leave us champions alone. Good luck!

If you didn't care, you wouldn't have reponded or wished the PP good luck! And good luck to you. Just no need to be such a jerk, ya know?

[Anonymous]

Keep it up! We'll make it to 500 before the next podcast drops.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When US Club is ready to put a period on the conversation around 2025 they will update their website with the final answer. Hasn't happened yet....and don't tell me it's an IT or software issue. Just let us know division my 2011 is playing in next season. They aren't ready to give you the answer to that yet. Be patient.

They hired US Soccer's compliance person the day after the Nov 22 meeting. They are working on a rollout but these things take time, they are dotting I's and crossing T's.

Many ECNL clubs have already indicated to their membership that there is no change next year, but beyond next year there might be change, the details of which are still TBD.

Yes my clubs director told us the same. No change for next year. Unless ecnl have something up their sleeve no changes will be happening. So if your kid is a 2012 Q3/4 congratulations they never have to be trapped.

My kid is 2012 Q4. How do you mean? She was trapped in 2024. Unfortunately looks like she'll be trapped in 2025. And MAYBE by 8th grade she'll actually get to play with her own grade and avoid some of the real issues with being trapped. Are you just referencing the 8th grade situation or am I missing something? 2025 would be ideal because its the first year of ECNL for 7th graders and she can align with a team that'll hopefully stay together for a while.

On paper, unless she played up on a team that had/has HS freshmen OR skipped a grade(s), she wouldn't be trapped until 26-27. Or, please enlighten us on how she was trapped this year AND next year? I guess it wouldn't surprise that there are even more scenarios with the US having so many different schooling choices/systems.

It's my self definition of trapped. I see trapped as she can't play with her grade. And it's almost worse knowing she WILL be playing with her grade but not yet! For the 6-8th grade group this issue is urgent. Its been a broken system and the sooner its fixed the more likely to ensure we don't get early dropout.

There is an actual definition for a trapped player. You don't get to self define.

You must have a better dictionary than I do because it was nowhere to be found in my websters. Regardless, the implications for my daughter getting established this year vs next at this age are huge. The ECNL teams are already established for 2012. We did GA this year (a mistake I'd rather not repeat). I'd like to get her into the ECNL ecosystem sooner than later but one, it'll be hard to disrupt a current team as a November bday if they are all older and in the system. Two, that's alot of effort for one year and we are there are tons of competitive teams so getting this figured out would likely change her development path. Not the end of the world but obviously better to do this asap.

I wouldnt worry too much. The competivive balance will make sure your daughter has the options you want. 50% of ECNL Rosters in 24 months will be September to December.

Good point and she's lucky it'll be her 8th grade year in 2026.

Clubs who refuse to adapt won't win.... Just keep your daughter healthy and she will get her spot if she can play. Check out the 2013's if you want to see what she has to compete with. I know you will be happy after you do.

Nope, maybe in 6 years when all thr youngers come up but not immediately.

I've seen some seriously taleted kids try playing a year up and not sniff the field at a top 5 ECNL program in the country. I think people will be really shocked when RAE is layed out for all to see. This might be the best thing to ever happen to US youth soccer.

I haven't read this whole thread, so maybe it's already been said. But this has zero effect on RAE other than to e the line.

Don't worry. There's a guy that hangs around to remind us of just that anytime we mention BY going away. We get it. We know. We don't care. Nobody wants SY because it eliminates RAE. It's all about the trapped players and this stupid system we've created to try and get around them.

They remind you that RAE is the same under BY and SY because you keep trying to justify SY by saying that it will minimize RAE which is blatantly false.

We get that you're trying every angle you can to give your kid an advantage. But just take them to the park and work on shooting it will help them way more than tilting the rules in their favor.

Why would anyone bother justifying SY at this point? Done deal.

It's up to the leagues. If some likes BY, they should push/advocate that, especially if their kid is born earlier in the year. That's what parents of kids who were trapped did and they were able to get where we are now. It actually would benefit the whole system if it ends up that way.

I think there's a very good chance that this is what happens.

The girl dad's don't understand that ECNL is 2nd tier to MLSN for boys.

Ha! I think you take a lack of caring as misunderstanding. If you're angry that your kid is second rate don't express your angry at those of with top tier kids. I hope your boy improves, then maybe you can join the MLSN thread and leave us champions alone. Good luck!

If you didn't care, you wouldn't have reponded or wished the PP good luck! And good luck to you. Just no need to be such a jerk, ya know?

Sorry, I'll try to respond better the next time somebody calls me a confused, second rate girl dad. lol. Not sure where you're from. Where Im from when we're poked....we poke back.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When US Club is ready to put a period on the conversation around 2025 they will update their website with the final answer. Hasn't happened yet....and don't tell me it's an IT or software issue. Just let us know division my 2011 is playing in next season. They aren't ready to give you the answer to that yet. Be patient.

They hired US Soccer's compliance person the day after the Nov 22 meeting. They are working on a rollout but these things take time, they are dotting I's and crossing T's.

Many ECNL clubs have already indicated to their membership that there is no change next year, but beyond next year there might be change, the details of which are still TBD.

Yes my clubs director told us the same. No change for next year. Unless ecnl have something up their sleeve no changes will be happening. So if your kid is a 2012 Q3/4 congratulations they never have to be trapped.

My kid is 2012 Q4. How do you mean? She was trapped in 2024. Unfortunately looks like she'll be trapped in 2025. And MAYBE by 8th grade she'll actually get to play with her own grade and avoid some of the real issues with being trapped. Are you just referencing the 8th grade situation or am I missing something? 2025 would be ideal because its the first year of ECNL for 7th graders and she can align with a team that'll hopefully stay together for a while.

On paper, unless she played up on a team that had/has HS freshmen OR skipped a grade(s), she wouldn't be trapped until 26-27. Or, please enlighten us on how she was trapped this year AND next year? I guess it wouldn't surprise that there are even more scenarios with the US having so many different schooling choices/systems.

It's my self definition of trapped. I see trapped as she can't play with her grade. And it's almost worse knowing she WILL be playing with her grade but not yet! For the 6-8th grade group this issue is urgent. Its been a broken system and the sooner its fixed the more likely to ensure we don't get early dropout.

There is an actual definition for a trapped player. You don't get to self define.

You must have a better dictionary than I do because it was nowhere to be found in my websters. Regardless, the implications for my daughter getting established this year vs next at this age are huge. The ECNL teams are already established for 2012. We did GA this year (a mistake I'd rather not repeat). I'd like to get her into the ECNL ecosystem sooner than later but one, it'll be hard to disrupt a current team as a November bday if they are all older and in the system. Two, that's alot of effort for one year and we are there are tons of competitive teams so getting this figured out would likely change her development path. Not the end of the world but obviously better to do this asap.

I wouldnt worry too much. The competivive balance will make sure your daughter has the options you want. 50% of ECNL Rosters in 24 months will be September to December.

Good point and she's lucky it'll be her 8th grade year in 2026.

Clubs who refuse to adapt won't win.... Just keep your daughter healthy and she will get her spot if she can play. Check out the 2013's if you want to see what she has to compete with. I know you will be happy after you do.

Nope, maybe in 6 years when all thr youngers come up but not immediately.

I've seen some seriously taleted kids try playing a year up and not sniff the field at a top 5 ECNL program in the country. I think people will be really shocked when RAE is layed out for all to see. This might be the best thing to ever happen to US youth soccer.

I haven't read this whole thread, so maybe it's already been said. But this has zero effect on RAE other than to e the line.

Don't worry. There's a guy that hangs around to remind us of just that anytime we mention BY going away. We get it. We know. We don't care. Nobody wants SY because it eliminates RAE. It's all about the trapped players and this stupid system we've created to try and get around them.

They remind you that RAE is the same under BY and SY because you keep trying to justify SY by saying that it will minimize RAE which is blatantly false.

We get that you're trying every angle you can to give your kid an advantage. But just take them to the park and work on shooting it will help them way more than tilting the rules in their favor.

Why would anyone bother justifying SY at this point? Done deal.

It's up to the leagues. If some likes BY, they should push/advocate that, especially if their kid is born earlier in the year. That's what parents of kids who were trapped did and they were able to get where we are now. It actually would benefit the whole system if it ends up that way.

I think there's a very good chance that this is what happens.

The girl dad's don't understand that ECNL is 2nd tier to MLSN for boys.

Ha! I think you take a lack of caring as misunderstanding. If you're angry that your kid is second rate don't express your angry at those of with top tier kids. I hope your boy improves, then maybe you can join the MLSN thread and leave us champions alone. Good luck!

If you didn't care, you wouldn't have reponded or wished the PP good luck! And good luck to you. Just no need to be such a jerk, ya know?

Sorry, I'll try to respond better the next time somebody calls me a confused, second rate girl dad. lol. Not sure where you're from. Where Im from when we're poked....we poke back.

Facts are facts boys do generally prefer MLSN over ECNL. It's unfortunate that you feel facts are some kind of "poke" at you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When US Club is ready to put a period on the conversation around 2025 they will update their website with the final answer. Hasn't happened yet....and don't tell me it's an IT or software issue. Just let us know division my 2011 is playing in next season. They aren't ready to give you the answer to that yet. Be patient.

They hired US Soccer's compliance person the day after the Nov 22 meeting. They are working on a rollout but these things take time, they are dotting I's and crossing T's.

Many ECNL clubs have already indicated to their membership that there is no change next year, but beyond next year there might be change, the details of which are still TBD.

Yes my clubs director told us the same. No change for next year. Unless ecnl have something up their sleeve no changes will be happening. So if your kid is a 2012 Q3/4 congratulations they never have to be trapped.

My kid is 2012 Q4. How do you mean? She was trapped in 2024. Unfortunately looks like she'll be trapped in 2025. And MAYBE by 8th grade she'll actually get to play with her own grade and avoid some of the real issues with being trapped. Are you just referencing the 8th grade situation or am I missing something? 2025 would be ideal because its the first year of ECNL for 7th graders and she can align with a team that'll hopefully stay together for a while.

On paper, unless she played up on a team that had/has HS freshmen OR skipped a grade(s), she wouldn't be trapped until 26-27. Or, please enlighten us on how she was trapped this year AND next year? I guess it wouldn't surprise that there are even more scenarios with the US having so many different schooling choices/systems.

It's my self definition of trapped. I see trapped as she can't play with her grade. And it's almost worse knowing she WILL be playing with her grade but not yet! For the 6-8th grade group this issue is urgent. Its been a broken system and the sooner its fixed the more likely to ensure we don't get early dropout.

There is an actual definition for a trapped player. You don't get to self define.

You must have a better dictionary than I do because it was nowhere to be found in my websters. Regardless, the implications for my daughter getting established this year vs next at this age are huge. The ECNL teams are already established for 2012. We did GA this year (a mistake I'd rather not repeat). I'd like to get her into the ECNL ecosystem sooner than later but one, it'll be hard to disrupt a current team as a November bday if they are all older and in the system. Two, that's alot of effort for one year and we are there are tons of competitive teams so getting this figured out would likely change her development path. Not the end of the world but obviously better to do this asap.

I wouldnt worry too much. The competivive balance will make sure your daughter has the options you want. 50% of ECNL Rosters in 24 months will be September to December.

Good point and she's lucky it'll be her 8th grade year in 2026.

Clubs who refuse to adapt won't win.... Just keep your daughter healthy and she will get her spot if she can play. Check out the 2013's if you want to see what she has to compete with. I know you will be happy after you do.

Nope, maybe in 6 years when all thr youngers come up but not immediately.

I've seen some seriously taleted kids try playing a year up and not sniff the field at a top 5 ECNL program in the country. I think people will be really shocked when RAE is layed out for all to see. This might be the best thing to ever happen to US youth soccer.

I haven't read this whole thread, so maybe it's already been said. But this has zero effect on RAE other than to e the line.

Don't worry. There's a guy that hangs around to remind us of just that anytime we mention BY going away. We get it. We know. We don't care. Nobody wants SY because it eliminates RAE. It's all about the trapped players and this stupid system we've created to try and get around them.

They remind you that RAE is the same under BY and SY because you keep trying to justify SY by saying that it will minimize RAE which is blatantly false.

We get that you're trying every angle you can to give your kid an advantage. But just take them to the park and work on shooting it will help them way more than tilting the rules in their favor.

Why would anyone bother justifying SY at this point? Done deal.

It's up to the leagues. If some likes BY, they should push/advocate that, especially if their kid is born earlier in the year. That's what parents of kids who were trapped did and they were able to get where we are now. It actually would benefit the whole system if it ends up that way.

I think there's a very good chance that this is what happens.

The girl dad's don't understand that ECNL is 2nd tier to MLSN for boys.

Ha! I think you take a lack of caring as misunderstanding. If you're angry that your kid is second rate don't express your angry at those of with top tier kids. I hope your boy improves, then maybe you can join the MLSN thread and leave us champions alone. Good luck!

If you didn't care, you wouldn't have reponded or wished the PP good luck! And good luck to you. Just no need to be such a jerk, ya know?

Sorry, I'll try to respond better the next time somebody calls me a confused, second rate girl dad. lol. Not sure where you're from. Where Im from when we're poked....we poke back.

Facts are facts boys do generally prefer MLSN over ECNL. It's unfortunate that you feel facts are some kind of "poke" at you.

OMG, read the thread. We don't misunderstand where ECNL fits in for boys. We simply don't care. Boys prefer MLSN? I know you want me to care....sorry. I just don't. But don't confuse my lack of caring for misunderstanding. Your mad because we're focused on ECNL, go find a group that cares about your boy problems.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When US Club is ready to put a period on the conversation around 2025 they will update their website with the final answer. Hasn't happened yet....and don't tell me it's an IT or software issue. Just let us know division my 2011 is playing in next season. They aren't ready to give you the answer to that yet. Be patient.

They hired US Soccer's compliance person the day after the Nov 22 meeting. They are working on a rollout but these things take time, they are dotting I's and crossing T's.

Many ECNL clubs have already indicated to their membership that there is no change next year, but beyond next year there might be change, the details of which are still TBD.

Yes my clubs director told us the same. No change for next year. Unless ecnl have something up their sleeve no changes will be happening. So if your kid is a 2012 Q3/4 congratulations they never have to be trapped.

Geez ... Stop fouling each other. Yellow cards for you both!

My kid is 2012 Q4. How do you mean? She was trapped in 2024. Unfortunately looks like she'll be trapped in 2025. And MAYBE by 8th grade she'll actually get to play with her own grade and avoid some of the real issues with being trapped. Are you just referencing the 8th grade situation or am I missing something? 2025 would be ideal because its the first year of ECNL for 7th graders and she can align with a team that'll hopefully stay together for a while.

On paper, unless she played up on a team that had/has HS freshmen OR skipped a grade(s), she wouldn't be trapped until 26-27. Or, please enlighten us on how she was trapped this year AND next year? I guess it wouldn't surprise that there are even more scenarios with the US having so many different schooling choices/systems.

It's my self definition of trapped. I see trapped as she can't play with her grade. And it's almost worse knowing she WILL be playing with her grade but not yet! For the 6-8th grade group this issue is urgent. Its been a broken system and the sooner its fixed the more likely to ensure we don't get early dropout.

There is an actual definition for a trapped player. You don't get to self define.

You must have a better dictionary than I do because it was nowhere to be found in my websters. Regardless, the implications for my daughter getting established this year vs next at this age are huge. The ECNL teams are already established for 2012. We did GA this year (a mistake I'd rather not repeat). I'd like to get her into the ECNL ecosystem sooner than later but one, it'll be hard to disrupt a current team as a November bday if they are all older and in the system. Two, that's alot of effort for one year and we are there are tons of competitive teams so getting this figured out would likely change her development path. Not the end of the world but obviously better to do this asap.

I wouldnt worry too much. The competivive balance will make sure your daughter has the options you want. 50% of ECNL Rosters in 24 months will be September to December.

Good point and she's lucky it'll be her 8th grade year in 2026.

Clubs who refuse to adapt won't win.... Just keep your daughter healthy and she will get her spot if she can play. Check out the 2013's if you want to see what she has to compete with. I know you will be happy after you do.

Nope, maybe in 6 years when all thr youngers come up but not immediately.

I've seen some seriously taleted kids try playing a year up and not sniff the field at a top 5 ECNL program in the country. I think people will be really shocked when RAE is layed out for all to see. This might be the best thing to ever happen to US youth soccer.

I haven't read this whole thread, so maybe it's already been said. But this has zero effect on RAE other than to e the line.

Don't worry. There's a guy that hangs around to remind us of just that anytime we mention BY going away. We get it. We know. We don't care. Nobody wants SY because it eliminates RAE. It's all about the trapped players and this stupid system we've created to try and get around them.

They remind you that RAE is the same under BY and SY because you keep trying to justify SY by saying that it will minimize RAE which is blatantly false.

We get that you're trying every angle you can to give your kid an advantage. But just take them to the park and work on shooting it will help them way more than tilting the rules in their favor.

Why would anyone bother justifying SY at this point? Done deal.

It's up to the leagues. If some likes BY, they should push/advocate that, especially if their kid is born earlier in the year. That's what parents of kids who were trapped did and they were able to get where we are now. It actually would benefit the whole system if it ends up that way.

I think there's a very good chance that this is what happens.

The girl dad's don't understand that ECNL is 2nd tier to MLSN for boys.

Ha! I think you take a lack of caring as misunderstanding. If you're angry that your kid is second rate don't express your angry at those of with top tier kids. I hope your boy improves, then maybe you can join the MLSN thread and leave us champions alone. Good luck!

If you didn't care, you wouldn't have reponded or wished the PP good luck! And good luck to you. Just no need to be such a jerk, ya know?

Sorry, I'll try to respond better the next time somebody calls me a confused, second rate girl dad. lol. Not sure where you're from. Where Im from when we're poked....we poke back.

Facts are facts boys do generally prefer MLSN over ECNL. It's unfortunate that you feel facts are some kind of "poke" at you.

OMG, read the thread. We don't misunderstand where ECNL fits in for boys. We simply don't care. Boys prefer MLSN? I know you want me to care....sorry. I just don't. But don't confuse my lack of caring for misunderstanding. Your mad because we're focused on ECNL, go find a group that cares about your boy problems.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When US Club is ready to put a period on the conversation around 2025 they will update their website with the final answer. Hasn't happened yet....and don't tell me it's an IT or software issue. Just let us know division my 2011 is playing in next season. They aren't ready to give you the answer to that yet. Be patient.

They hired US Soccer's compliance person the day after the Nov 22 meeting. They are working on a rollout but these things take time, they are dotting I's and crossing T's.

Many ECNL clubs have already indicated to their membership that there is no change next year, but beyond next year there might be change, the details of which are still TBD.

Yes my clubs director told us the same. No change for next year. Unless ecnl have something up their sleeve no changes will be happening. So if your kid is a 2012 Q3/4 congratulations they never have to be trapped.

My kid is 2012 Q4. How do you mean? She was trapped in 2024. Unfortunately looks like she'll be trapped in 2025. And MAYBE by 8th grade she'll actually get to play with her own grade and avoid some of the real issues with being trapped. Are you just referencing the 8th grade situation or am I missing something? 2025 would be ideal because its the first year of ECNL for 7th graders and she can align with a team that'll hopefully stay together for a while.

On paper, unless she played up on a team that had/has HS freshmen OR skipped a grade(s), she wouldn't be trapped until 26-27. Or, please enlighten us on how she was trapped this year AND next year? I guess it wouldn't surprise that there are even more scenarios with the US having so many different schooling choices/systems.

It's my self definition of trapped. I see trapped as she can't play with her grade. And it's almost worse knowing she WILL be playing with her grade but not yet! For the 6-8th grade group this issue is urgent. Its been a broken system and the sooner its fixed the more likely to ensure we don't get early dropout.

There is an actual definition for a trapped player. You don't get to self define.

You must have a better dictionary than I do because it was nowhere to be found in my websters. Regardless, the implications for my daughter getting established this year vs next at this age are huge. The ECNL teams are already established for 2012. We did GA this year (a mistake I'd rather not repeat). I'd like to get her into the ECNL ecosystem sooner than later but one, it'll be hard to disrupt a current team as a November bday if they are all older and in the system. Two, that's alot of effort for one year and we are there are tons of competitive teams so getting this figured out would likely change her development path. Not the end of the world but obviously better to do this asap.

I wouldnt worry too much. The competivive balance will make sure your daughter has the options you want. 50% of ECNL Rosters in 24 months will be September to December.

Good point and she's lucky it'll be her 8th grade year in 2026.

Clubs who refuse to adapt won't win.... Just keep your daughter healthy and she will get her spot if she can play. Check out the 2013's if you want to see what she has to compete with. I know you will be happy after you do.

Nope, maybe in 6 years when all thr youngers come up but not immediately.

I've seen some seriously taleted kids try playing a year up and not sniff the field at a top 5 ECNL program in the country. I think people will be really shocked when RAE is layed out for all to see. This might be the best thing to ever happen to US youth soccer.

I haven't read this whole thread, so maybe it's already been said. But this has zero effect on RAE other than to e the line.

Don't worry. There's a guy that hangs around to remind us of just that anytime we mention BY going away. We get it. We know. We don't care. Nobody wants SY because it eliminates RAE. It's all about the trapped players and this stupid system we've created to try and get around them.

They remind you that RAE is the same under BY and SY because you keep trying to justify SY by saying that it will minimize RAE which is blatantly false.

We get that you're trying every angle you can to give your kid an advantage. But just take them to the park and work on shooting it will help them way more than tilting the rules in their favor.

Why would anyone bother justifying SY at this point? Done deal.

It's up to the leagues. If some likes BY, they should push/advocate that, especially if their kid is born earlier in the year. That's what parents of kids who were trapped did and they were able to get where we are now. It actually would benefit the whole system if it ends up that way.

I think there's a very good chance that this is what happens.

The girl dad's don't understand that ECNL is 2nd tier to MLSN for boys.

Ha! I think you take a lack of caring as misunderstanding. If you're angry that your kid is second rate don't express your angry at those of with top tier kids. I hope your boy improves, then maybe you can join the MLSN thread and leave us champions alone. Good luck!

If you didn't care, you wouldn't have reponded or wished the PP good luck! And good luck to you. Just no need to be such a jerk, ya know?

Sorry, I'll try to respond better the next time somebody calls me a confused, second rate girl dad. lol. Not sure where you're from. Where Im from when we're poked....we poke back.

Facts are facts boys do generally prefer MLSN over ECNL. It's unfortunate that you feel facts are some kind of "poke" at you.

OMG, read the thread. We don't misunderstand where ECNL fits in for boys. We simply don't care. Boys prefer MLSN? I know you want me to care....sorry. I just don't. But don't confuse my lack of caring for misunderstanding. Your mad because we're focused on ECNL, go find a group that cares about your boy problems.

Geez ... Stop fouling each other. Yellow cards for you both!

[Anonymous]

Let the kids play

[Anonymous]

So no podcast? No updates? No rumors? We need some oxygen quick or this thread is going to finally meet its end. Then what would do each morning?

Let's go people! Talk to your moms neighbor's kid that's an AYSO coach and feed us the inside scoop!