ECNL moving to school year not calendar

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Anonymous wrote:My point was a top kid may become a bench kid. 6 months can have a drastic effect. Ive seen it for years. Alot of people will be really suprised.

Our 2012 team has occasional interclub friendlies with our 2013's and the score is about 4-0 and a friendly with our 2011's is about the same in favor of the 2011's.

My point exactly. The 2011-2013 is going to be MASSIVELY impacted by the decisions being made over the next few months. Im the original poster. My 2012 HAS played with 2013's and I can't believe they are in the same grade. Another year of GA will slow her momentum, it'll cost her exposure opportunities but I'll try not to stress too much about it. 2026 will be here before long.

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Anonymous wrote:When US Club is ready to put a period on the conversation around 2025 they will update their website with the final answer. Hasn't happened yet....and don't tell me it's an IT or software issue. Just let us know division my 2011 is playing in next season. They aren't ready to give you the answer to that yet. Be patient.

They hired US Soccer's compliance person the day after the Nov 22 meeting. They are working on a rollout but these things take time, they are dotting I's and crossing T's.

Many ECNL clubs have already indicated to their membership that there is no change next year, but beyond next year there might be change, the details of which are still TBD.

Yes my clubs director told us the same. No change for next year. Unless ecnl have something up their sleeve no changes will be happening. So if your kid is a 2012 Q3/4 congratulations they never have to be trapped.

My kid is 2012 Q4. How do you mean? She was trapped in 2024. Unfortunately looks like she'll be trapped in 2025. And MAYBE by 8th grade she'll actually get to play with her own grade and avoid some of the real issues with being trapped. Are you just referencing the 8th grade situation or am I missing something? 2025 would be ideal because its the first year of ECNL for 7th graders and she can align with a team that'll hopefully stay together for a while.

On paper, unless she played up on a team that had/has HS freshmen OR skipped a grade(s), she wouldn't be trapped until 26-27. Or, please enlighten us on how she was trapped this year AND next year? I guess it wouldn't surprise that there are even more scenarios with the US having so many different schooling choices/systems.

It's my self definition of trapped. I see trapped as she can't play with her grade. And it's almost worse knowing she WILL be playing with her grade but not yet! For the 6-8th grade group this issue is urgent. Its been a broken system and the sooner its fixed the more likely to ensure we don't get early dropout.

There is an actual definition for a trapped player. You don't get to self define.

You must have a better dictionary than I do because it was nowhere to be found in my websters. Regardless, the implications for my daughter getting established this year vs next at this age are huge. The ECNL teams are already established for 2012. We did GA this year (a mistake I'd rather not repeat). I'd like to get her into the ECNL ecosystem sooner than later but one, it'll be hard to disrupt a current team as a November bday if they are all older and in the system. Two, that's alot of effort for one year and we are there are tons of competitive teams so getting this figured out would likely change her development path. Not the end of the world but obviously better to do this asap.

I wouldnt worry too much. The competivive balance will make sure your daughter has the options you want. 50% of ECNL Rosters in 24 months will be September to December.

Good point and she's lucky it'll be her 8th grade year in 2026.

Clubs who refuse to adapt won't win.... Just keep your daughter healthy and she will get her spot if she can play. Check out the 2013's if you want to see what she has to compete with. I know you will be happy after you do.

Nope, maybe in 6 years when all thr youngers come up but not immediately.

I've seen some seriously taleted kids try playing a year up and not sniff the field at a top 5 ECNL program in the country. I think people will be really shocked when RAE is layed out for all to see. This might be the best thing to ever happen to US youth soccer.

I haven't read this whole thread, so maybe it's already been said. But this has zero effect on RAE other than to e the line.

Also unclear is if all the top leagues switch and if some keep BY, it perhaps leads to a system where RAE is eventually minimized.

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Anonymous wrote:My point was a top kid may become a bench kid. 6 months can have a drastic effect. Ive seen it for years. Alot of people will be really suprised.

Our 2012 team has occasional interclub friendlies with our 2013's and the score is about 4-0 and a friendly with our 2011's is about the same in favor of the 2011's.

My point exactly. The 2011-2013 is going to be MASSIVELY impacted by the decisions being made over the next few months. Im the original poster. My 2012 HAS played with 2013's and I can't believe they are in the same grade. Another year of GA will slow her momentum, it'll cost her exposure opportunities but I'll try not to stress too much about it. 2026 will be here before long.

Original poster, huh? Nevermind your kid, you must be proud of birthing this thread—no doubt we hit 500 before the weekend is out!

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What have people heard is more than likey the new cut off if US club switches to SY ? August 1st or Sept 1st?

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Anonymous wrote:My point was a top kid may become a bench kid. 6 months can have a drastic effect. Ive seen it for years. Alot of people will be really suprised.

Our 2012 team has occasional interclub friendlies with our 2013's and the score is about 4-0 and a friendly with our 2011's is about the same in favor of the 2011's.

My point exactly. The 2011-2013 is going to be MASSIVELY impacted by the decisions being made over the next few months. Im the original poster. My 2012 HAS played with 2013's and I can't believe they are in the same grade. Another year of GA will slow her momentum, it'll cost her exposure opportunities but I'll try not to stress too much about it. 2026 will be here before long.

If there's no switch, you 2012 should benefit from another year with older kids. Additionally, those 2013-ers might have not even done 11v11, as most are doing 9v9 right now. If your 2012 doesn't join until 2026, at least that cohort will have a year under their belt at that size.

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Anonymous wrote:My point was a top kid may become a bench kid. 6 months can have a drastic effect. Ive seen it for years. Alot of people will be really suprised.

Our 2012 team has occasional interclub friendlies with our 2013's and the score is about 4-0 and a friendly with our 2011's is about the same in favor of the 2011's.

My point exactly. The 2011-2013 is going to be MASSIVELY impacted by the decisions being made over the next few months. Im the original poster. My 2012 HAS played with 2013's and I can't believe they are in the same grade. Another year of GA will slow her momentum, it'll cost her exposure opportunities but I'll try not to stress too much about it. 2026 will be here before long.

Right there with you, i have 2012 q4 daughter, one of the strongest and fastest girls on the team. Plays centerback and holding her own. Definitely outsized in most games, she plays very physically and is a good passer, but I worry about injuries when I see girls she's defending consistently having about 50lbs on her. 2026 can't come soon enough.

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Anonymous wrote:My point was a top kid may become a bench kid. 6 months can have a drastic effect. Ive seen it for years. Alot of people will be really suprised.

Our 2012 team has occasional interclub friendlies with our 2013's and the score is about 4-0 and a friendly with our 2011's is about the same in favor of the 2011's.

My point exactly. The 2011-2013 is going to be MASSIVELY impacted by the decisions being made over the next few months. Im the original poster. My 2012 HAS played with 2013's and I can't believe they are in the same grade. Another year of GA will slow her momentum, it'll cost her exposure opportunities but I'll try not to stress too much about it. 2026 will be here before long.

If there's no switch, you 2012 should benefit from another year with older kids. Additionally, those 2013-ers might have not even done 11v11, as most are doing 9v9 right now. If your 2012 doesn't join until 2026, at least that cohort will have a year under their belt at that size.

Agree, as a 2012 q4 parent i really want the switch asap, but I do see a benefit of playing up one more year

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Anonymous wrote:My point was a top kid may become a bench kid. 6 months can have a drastic effect. Ive seen it for years. Alot of people will be really suprised.

Our 2012 team has occasional interclub friendlies with our 2013's and the score is about 4-0 and a friendly with our 2011's is about the same in favor of the 2011's.

My point exactly. The 2011-2013 is going to be MASSIVELY impacted by the decisions being made over the next few months. Im the original poster. My 2012 HAS played with 2013's and I can't believe they are in the same grade. Another year of GA will slow her momentum, it'll cost her exposure opportunities but I'll try not to stress too much about it. 2026 will be here before long.

Right there with you, i have 2012 q4 daughter, one of the strongest and fastest girls on the team. Plays centerback and holding her own. Definitely outsized in most games, she plays very physically and is a good passer, but I worry about injuries when I see girls she's defending consistently having about 50lbs on her. 2026 can't come soon enough.

With the size advantage removed, your kid might get a chance to play different positions as sometimes the best player ends up at CB because not many others can handle (or want since not as many scoring opportunities).

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Anonymous wrote:My point was a top kid may become a bench kid. 6 months can have a drastic effect. Ive seen it for years. Alot of people will be really suprised.

Our 2012 team has occasional interclub friendlies with our 2013's and the score is about 4-0 and a friendly with our 2011's is about the same in favor of the 2011's.

My point exactly. The 2011-2013 is going to be MASSIVELY impacted by the decisions being made over the next few months. Im the original poster. My 2012 HAS played with 2013's and I can't believe they are in the same grade. Another year of GA will slow her momentum, it'll cost her exposure opportunities but I'll try not to stress too much about it. 2026 will be here before long.

Right there with you, i have 2012 q4 daughter, one of the strongest and fastest girls on the team. Plays centerback and holding her own. Definitely outsized in most games, she plays very physically and is a good passer, but I worry about injuries when I see girls she's defending consistently having about 50lbs on her. 2026 can't come soon enough.

With the size advantage removed, your kid might get a chance to play different positions as sometimes the best player ends up at CB because not many others can handle (or want since not as many scoring opportunities).

My daughter is Sept 2013. She is middle of the pack on a U12 pre-ECNL team, with smaller size being her challenge. Not sure whether it’s better for her to keep fighting at this level until growth spurts level out or to move down and immediately be near if not at the top of the younger team.

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Anonymous wrote:My point was a top kid may become a bench kid. 6 months can have a drastic effect. Ive seen it for years. Alot of people will be really suprised.

Our 2012 team has occasional interclub friendlies with our 2013's and the score is about 4-0 and a friendly with our 2011's is about the same in favor of the 2011's.

My point exactly. The 2011-2013 is going to be MASSIVELY impacted by the decisions being made over the next few months. Im the original poster. My 2012 HAS played with 2013's and I can't believe they are in the same grade. Another year of GA will slow her momentum, it'll cost her exposure opportunities but I'll try not to stress too much about it. 2026 will be here before long.

Right there with you, i have 2012 q4 daughter, one of the strongest and fastest girls on the team. Plays centerback and holding her own. Definitely outsized in most games, she plays very physically and is a good passer, but I worry about injuries when I see girls she's defending consistently having about 50lbs on her. 2026 can't come soon enough.

With the size advantage removed, your kid might get a chance to play different positions as sometimes the best player ends up at CB because not many others can handle (or want since not as many scoring opportunities).

My daughter is Sept 2013. She is middle of the pack on a U12 pre-ECNL team, with smaller size being her challenge. Not sure whether it’s better for her to keep fighting at this level until growth spurts level out or to move down and immediately be near if not at the top of the younger team.

Well, if no changes, she'll play 11v11 in the fall. With changes, she'd stay 9v9 unless, on paper (probably given a shot to play up, depending on who tries out)

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Anonymous wrote:When US Club is ready to put a period on the conversation around 2025 they will update their website with the final answer. Hasn't happened yet....and don't tell me it's an IT or software issue. Just let us know division my 2011 is playing in next season. They aren't ready to give you the answer to that yet. Be patient.

They hired US Soccer's compliance person the day after the Nov 22 meeting. They are working on a rollout but these things take time, they are dotting I's and crossing T's.

Many ECNL clubs have already indicated to their membership that there is no change next year, but beyond next year there might be change, the details of which are still TBD.

Yes my clubs director told us the same. No change for next year. Unless ecnl have something up their sleeve no changes will be happening. So if your kid is a 2012 Q3/4 congratulations they never have to be trapped.

My kid is 2012 Q4. How do you mean? She was trapped in 2024. Unfortunately looks like she'll be trapped in 2025. And MAYBE by 8th grade she'll actually get to play with her own grade and avoid some of the real issues with being trapped. Are you just referencing the 8th grade situation or am I missing something? 2025 would be ideal because its the first year of ECNL for 7th graders and she can align with a team that'll hopefully stay together for a while.

On paper, unless she played up on a team that had/has HS freshmen OR skipped a grade(s), she wouldn't be trapped until 26-27. Or, please enlighten us on how she was trapped this year AND next year? I guess it wouldn't surprise that there are even more scenarios with the US having so many different schooling choices/systems.

It's my self definition of trapped. I see trapped as she can't play with her grade. And it's almost worse knowing she WILL be playing with her grade but not yet! For the 6-8th grade group this issue is urgent. Its been a broken system and the sooner its fixed the more likely to ensure we don't get early dropout.

There is an actual definition for a trapped player. You don't get to self define.

You must have a better dictionary than I do because it was nowhere to be found in my websters. Regardless, the implications for my daughter getting established this year vs next at this age are huge. The ECNL teams are already established for 2012. We did GA this year (a mistake I'd rather not repeat). I'd like to get her into the ECNL ecosystem sooner than later but one, it'll be hard to disrupt a current team as a November bday if they are all older and in the system. Two, that's alot of effort for one year and we are there are tons of competitive teams so getting this figured out would likely change her development path. Not the end of the world but obviously better to do this asap.

I wouldnt worry too much. The competivive balance will make sure your daughter has the options you want. 50% of ECNL Rosters in 24 months will be September to December.

Good point and she's lucky it'll be her 8th grade year in 2026.

Clubs who refuse to adapt won't win.... Just keep your daughter healthy and she will get her spot if she can play. Check out the 2013's if you want to see what she has to compete with. I know you will be happy after you do.

Nope, maybe in 6 years when all thr youngers come up but not immediately.

I've seen some seriously taleted kids try playing a year up and not sniff the field at a top 5 ECNL program in the country. I think people will be really shocked when RAE is layed out for all to see. This might be the best thing to ever happen to US youth soccer.

I haven't read this whole thread, so maybe it's already been said. But this has zero effect on RAE other than to e the line.

Don't worry. There's a guy that hangs around to remind us of just that anytime we mention BY going away. We get it. We know. We don't care. Nobody wants SY because it eliminates RAE. It's all about the trapped players and this stupid system we've created to try and get around them.

They remind you that RAE is the same under BY and SY because you keep trying to justify SY by saying that it will minimize RAE which is blatantly false.

We get that you're trying every angle you can to give your kid an advantage. But just take them to the park and work on shooting it will help them way more than tilting the rules in their favor.

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Anonymous wrote:My point was a top kid may become a bench kid. 6 months can have a drastic effect. Ive seen it for years. Alot of people will be really suprised.

Our 2012 team has occasional interclub friendlies with our 2013's and the score is about 4-0 and a friendly with our 2011's is about the same in favor of the 2011's.

My point exactly. The 2011-2013 is going to be MASSIVELY impacted by the decisions being made over the next few months. Im the original poster. My 2012 HAS played with 2013's and I can't believe they are in the same grade. Another year of GA will slow her momentum, it'll cost her exposure opportunities but I'll try not to stress too much about it. 2026 will be here before long.

Right there with you, i have 2012 q4 daughter, one of the strongest and fastest girls on the team. Plays centerback and holding her own. Definitely outsized in most games, she plays very physically and is a good passer, but I worry about injuries when I see girls she's defending consistently having about 50lbs on her. 2026 can't come soon enough.

With the size advantage removed, your kid might get a chance to play different positions as sometimes the best player ends up at CB because not many others can handle (or want since not as many scoring opportunities).

My daughter is Sept 2013. She is middle of the pack on a U12 pre-ECNL team, with smaller size being her challenge. Not sure whether it’s better for her to keep fighting at this level until growth spurts level out or to move down and immediately be near if not at the top of the younger team.

Well, if no changes, she'll play 11v11 in the fall. With changes, she'd stay 9v9 unless, on paper (probably given a shot to play up, depending on who tries out)

Common situation but so many factors you need to weigh. Confidence level where she is, her attitude toward growth or being a big fish in a smaller pond, lots of opinions on benefits of longer small ball play, ultimate goals, team dynamics, coaching options. Far too much for a simple answer but I wouldn't take another Pre-ECNL year off the table if its offered and don't let ego be your guide. Good luck, I know how tough these decisions are.

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Anonymous wrote:When US Club is ready to put a period on the conversation around 2025 they will update their website with the final answer. Hasn't happened yet....and don't tell me it's an IT or software issue. Just let us know division my 2011 is playing in next season. They aren't ready to give you the answer to that yet. Be patient.

They hired US Soccer's compliance person the day after the Nov 22 meeting. They are working on a rollout but these things take time, they are dotting I's and crossing T's.

Many ECNL clubs have already indicated to their membership that there is no change next year, but beyond next year there might be change, the details of which are still TBD.

Yes my clubs director told us the same. No change for next year. Unless ecnl have something up their sleeve no changes will be happening. So if your kid is a 2012 Q3/4 congratulations they never have to be trapped.

My kid is 2012 Q4. How do you mean? She was trapped in 2024. Unfortunately looks like she'll be trapped in 2025. And MAYBE by 8th grade she'll actually get to play with her own grade and avoid some of the real issues with being trapped. Are you just referencing the 8th grade situation or am I missing something? 2025 would be ideal because its the first year of ECNL for 7th graders and she can align with a team that'll hopefully stay together for a while.

On paper, unless she played up on a team that had/has HS freshmen OR skipped a grade(s), she wouldn't be trapped until 26-27. Or, please enlighten us on how she was trapped this year AND next year? I guess it wouldn't surprise that there are even more scenarios with the US having so many different schooling choices/systems.

It's my self definition of trapped. I see trapped as she can't play with her grade. And it's almost worse knowing she WILL be playing with her grade but not yet! For the 6-8th grade group this issue is urgent. Its been a broken system and the sooner its fixed the more likely to ensure we don't get early dropout.

There is an actual definition for a trapped player. You don't get to self define.

You must have a better dictionary than I do because it was nowhere to be found in my websters. Regardless, the implications for my daughter getting established this year vs next at this age are huge. The ECNL teams are already established for 2012. We did GA this year (a mistake I'd rather not repeat). I'd like to get her into the ECNL ecosystem sooner than later but one, it'll be hard to disrupt a current team as a November bday if they are all older and in the system. Two, that's alot of effort for one year and we are there are tons of competitive teams so getting this figured out would likely change her development path. Not the end of the world but obviously better to do this asap.

I wouldnt worry too much. The competivive balance will make sure your daughter has the options you want. 50% of ECNL Rosters in 24 months will be September to December.

Good point and she's lucky it'll be her 8th grade year in 2026.

Clubs who refuse to adapt won't win.... Just keep your daughter healthy and she will get her spot if she can play. Check out the 2013's if you want to see what she has to compete with. I know you will be happy after you do.

Nope, maybe in 6 years when all thr youngers come up but not immediately.

I've seen some seriously taleted kids try playing a year up and not sniff the field at a top 5 ECNL program in the country. I think people will be really shocked when RAE is layed out for all to see. This might be the best thing to ever happen to US youth soccer.

I haven't read this whole thread, so maybe it's already been said. But this has zero effect on RAE other than to e the line.

Don't worry. There's a guy that hangs around to remind us of just that anytime we mention BY going away. We get it. We know. We don't care. Nobody wants SY because it eliminates RAE. It's all about the trapped players and this stupid system we've created to try and get around them.

They remind you that RAE is the same under BY and SY because you keep trying to justify SY by saying that it will minimize RAE which is blatantly false.

We get that you're trying every angle you can to give your kid an advantage. But just take them to the park and work on shooting it will help them way more than tilting the rules in their favor.

lol! Are you sure you're not that guy?! If not, you guys should meet. You'd be fast friends. So even when I say 'Nobody wants SY because it eliminates RAE', you somehow misread that as 'you keep trying to justify SY by saying it will minimize RAE'??? Oh, to live in your head for just a day.

Not sure how else to help you here. I know you're scared of what's coming. Deep breathes...you'll be okay.

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Anonymous wrote:When US Club is ready to put a period on the conversation around 2025 they will update their website with the final answer. Hasn't happened yet....and don't tell me it's an IT or software issue. Just let us know division my 2011 is playing in next season. They aren't ready to give you the answer to that yet. Be patient.

They hired US Soccer's compliance person the day after the Nov 22 meeting. They are working on a rollout but these things take time, they are dotting I's and crossing T's.

Many ECNL clubs have already indicated to their membership that there is no change next year, but beyond next year there might be change, the details of which are still TBD.

Yes my clubs director told us the same. No change for next year. Unless ecnl have something up their sleeve no changes will be happening. So if your kid is a 2012 Q3/4 congratulations they never have to be trapped.

My kid is 2012 Q4. How do you mean? She was trapped in 2024. Unfortunately looks like she'll be trapped in 2025. And MAYBE by 8th grade she'll actually get to play with her own grade and avoid some of the real issues with being trapped. Are you just referencing the 8th grade situation or am I missing something? 2025 would be ideal because its the first year of ECNL for 7th graders and she can align with a team that'll hopefully stay together for a while.

On paper, unless she played up on a team that had/has HS freshmen OR skipped a grade(s), she wouldn't be trapped until 26-27. Or, please enlighten us on how she was trapped this year AND next year? I guess it wouldn't surprise that there are even more scenarios with the US having so many different schooling choices/systems.

It's my self definition of trapped. I see trapped as she can't play with her grade. And it's almost worse knowing she WILL be playing with her grade but not yet! For the 6-8th grade group this issue is urgent. Its been a broken system and the sooner its fixed the more likely to ensure we don't get early dropout.

There is an actual definition for a trapped player. You don't get to self define.

You must have a better dictionary than I do because it was nowhere to be found in my websters. Regardless, the implications for my daughter getting established this year vs next at this age are huge. The ECNL teams are already established for 2012. We did GA this year (a mistake I'd rather not repeat). I'd like to get her into the ECNL ecosystem sooner than later but one, it'll be hard to disrupt a current team as a November bday if they are all older and in the system. Two, that's alot of effort for one year and we are there are tons of competitive teams so getting this figured out would likely change her development path. Not the end of the world but obviously better to do this asap.

I wouldnt worry too much. The competivive balance will make sure your daughter has the options you want. 50% of ECNL Rosters in 24 months will be September to December.

Good point and she's lucky it'll be her 8th grade year in 2026.

Clubs who refuse to adapt won't win.... Just keep your daughter healthy and she will get her spot if she can play. Check out the 2013's if you want to see what she has to compete with. I know you will be happy after you do.

Nope, maybe in 6 years when all thr youngers come up but not immediately.

I've seen some seriously taleted kids try playing a year up and not sniff the field at a top 5 ECNL program in the country. I think people will be really shocked when RAE is layed out for all to see. This might be the best thing to ever happen to US youth soccer.

I haven't read this whole thread, so maybe it's already been said. But this has zero effect on RAE other than to e the line.

Don't worry. There's a guy that hangs around to remind us of just that anytime we mention BY going away. We get it. We know. We don't care. Nobody wants SY because it eliminates RAE. It's all about the trapped players and this stupid system we've created to try and get around them.

They remind you that RAE is the same under BY and SY because you keep trying to justify SY by saying that it will minimize RAE which is blatantly false.

We get that you're trying every angle you can to give your kid an advantage. But just take them to the park and work on shooting it will help them way more than tilting the rules in their favor.

Why would anyone bother justifying SY at this point? Done deal.

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Anonymous wrote:My point was a top kid may become a bench kid. 6 months can have a drastic effect. Ive seen it for years. Alot of people will be really suprised.

Our 2012 team has occasional interclub friendlies with our 2013's and the score is about 4-0 and a friendly with our 2011's is about the same in favor of the 2011's.

My point exactly. The 2011-2013 is going to be MASSIVELY impacted by the decisions being made over the next few months. Im the original poster. My 2012 HAS played with 2013's and I can't believe they are in the same grade. Another year of GA will slow her momentum, it'll cost her exposure opportunities but I'll try not to stress too much about it. 2026 will be here before long.

Right there with you, i have 2012 q4 daughter, one of the strongest and fastest girls on the team. Plays centerback and holding her own. Definitely outsized in most games, she plays very physically and is a good passer, but I worry about injuries when I see girls she's defending consistently having about 50lbs on her. 2026 can't come soon enough.

With the size advantage removed, your kid might get a chance to play different positions as sometimes the best player ends up at CB because not many others can handle (or want since not as many scoring opportunities).

My daughter is Sept 2013. She is middle of the pack on a U12 pre-ECNL team, with smaller size being her challenge. Not sure whether it’s better for her to keep fighting at this level until growth spurts level out or to move down and immediately be near if not at the top of the younger team.

Well, if no changes, she'll play 11v11 in the fall. With changes, she'd stay 9v9 unless, on paper (probably given a shot to play up, depending on who tries out)

Common situation but so many factors you need to weigh. Confidence level where she is, her attitude toward growth or being a big fish in a smaller pond, lots of opinions on benefits of longer small ball play, ultimate goals, team dynamics, coaching options. Far too much for a simple answer but I wouldn't take another Pre-ECNL year off the table if its offered and don't let ego be your guide. Good luck, I know how tough these decisions are.

Hoping for one more year of BY—feel like she’ll be in a better place to decide then after a full year of 11v11 ECNL, and I’d rather she repeat U13 than U12.