Comey is out!

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Anonymous wrote:You'll note that Rosenstein's memo does not recommend firing Comey. He had the foresight to at least not put that in writing.


As it should be. He should not be recommending, just laying out fact.
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Anonymous wrote:You'll note that Rosenstein's memo does not recommend firing Comey. He had the foresight to at least not put that in writing.


As it should be. He should not be recommending, just laying out fact.


That's not the claim Donald Trump made in the letter firing Comey. He called it Rosenstein's and Sessions' recommendation:

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Anonymous wrote:You'll note that Rosenstein's memo does not recommend firing Comey. He had the foresight to at least not put that in writing.


As it should be. He should not be recommending, just laying out fact.


According to the Hill, he threatened to quit because the WH pinned the firing on him.
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Anonymous wrote:You'll note that Rosenstein's memo does not recommend firing Comey. He had the foresight to at least not put that in writing.


As it should be. He should not be recommending, just laying out fact.


Why? Comey was his direct report.
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If I were Rosenstein, I wonder what the best choice would be. Quit and attempt to preserve my reputation? Or stay on and try to be a good influence in a government and agency that is chaotic and impulsive?
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Anonymous wrote:If I were Rosenstein, I wonder what the best choice would be. Quit and attempt to preserve my reputation? Or stay on and try to be a good influence in a government and agency that is chaotic and impulsive?


The best choice would be to (1) set up the investigation so that it cannot be undone by firings, (2) appoint a special prosecutor (I believe he has the authority), (3) hide.
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Anonymous wrote:If I were Rosenstein, I wonder what the best choice would be. Quit and attempt to preserve my reputation? Or stay on and try to be a good influence in a government and agency that is chaotic and impulsive?


The best choice would be to (1) set up the investigation so that it cannot be undone by firings, (2) appoint a special prosecutor (I believe he has the authority), (3) hide.


special prosecutor or quit. it's obvious.
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Anonymous wrote:If your mad about anything other than Trump's cozy relationship with the Russians, then you are doing it wrong. He is acting in a treasonous manner for personal gain and putting his interests above the country.

Everything else is noise.


We are allowed to do business with Russia for God's sake. There's a business council for God's sake!


Trump has done business with Russia. He also swears he hasn't and intends to attest to it in an affidavit.


Trump did not do ILLEGAL business with Russia. LEGAL business is just that.


“What do I have to do with Russia? You know the closest I came to Russia, I bought a house a number of years ago in Palm Beach, Fla.," Trump said. "There was a man who went bankrupt and I bought the house for $40 million and I sold it to a Russian for $100 million including brokerage commissions. So I sold it. So I bought it for 40, I sold it for 100 to a Russian. That was a number of years ago."

Earlier Wednesday, Trump tweeted, "Russia has never tried to use leverage over me. I HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH RUSSIA - NO DEALS, NO LOANS, NO NOTHING!"


So Trump admitted to getting a payoff from Russia of $60M through a farce of a home sale...interesting.
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Anonymous wrote:If your mad about anything other than Trump's cozy relationship with the Russians, then you are doing it wrong. He is acting in a treasonous manner for personal gain and putting his interests above the country.

Everything else is noise.


We are allowed to do business with Russia for God's sake. There's a business council for God's sake!


Trump has done business with Russia. He also swears he hasn't and intends to attest to it in an affidavit.


Trump did not do ILLEGAL business with Russia. LEGAL business is just that.


“What do I have to do with Russia? You know the closest I came to Russia, I bought a house a number of years ago in Palm Beach, Fla.," Trump said. "There was a man who went bankrupt and I bought the house for $40 million and I sold it to a Russian for $100 million including brokerage commissions. So I sold it. So I bought it for 40, I sold it for 100 to a Russian. That was a number of years ago."

Earlier Wednesday, Trump tweeted, "Russia has never tried to use leverage over me. I HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH RUSSIA - NO DEALS, NO LOANS, NO NOTHING!"


So Trump admitted to getting a payoff from Russia of $60M through a farce of a home sale...interesting.

Maddow has an interesting past segment on that particular transaction and others by Russian oligarchs.
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Anonymous wrote:"Within the Justice Department and the FBI, the firing of Comey has left raw anger, and some fear, according to multiple officials. Thomas O’Connor, the president of the FBI Agents Association, called Comey’s firing “a gut punch. We didn’t see it coming, and we don’t think Director Comey did anything that would lead to this.’’
Many employees said they were furious about the firing, saying the circumstances of his dismissal did more damage to the FBI’s independence than anything Comey did in his three-plus years in the job.
One intelligence official who works on Russian espionage matters said they were more determined than ever to pursue such cases. Another said Comey’s firing and the subsequent comments from the White House are attacks that won’t soon be forgotten. Trump had “essentially declared war on a lot of people at the FBI,” one official said. “I think there will be a concerted effort to respond over time in kind.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/how-trumps-anger-and-impatience-prompted-him-to-fire-the-fbi-director/2017/05/10/d9642334-359c-11e7-b373-418f6849a004_story.html?hpid=hp_rhp-banner-main_comeyreconstruct912pm-1%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.1e87d5b73fac


Didn't do anything? Please. Since when does intent to commit a crime matter, except for in the length of the sentence? And clearly, if Comey leaned on intent, then there WAS a crime committed. We have soldiers in jail for less. He showed his partisanship then and his firing was long overdue.


I've read this three times and it still doesn't make any sense.


Because you are clearly not understanding that when Comey goes through a list of the ways Hillary broke the law, then says "well, she didn't show intent", that doesn't mean she didn't' break the law and shouldn't have been charged. Intent simply changes what she's charged with and sentencing, i.e. murder vs manslaughter for example. We have soldiers in jail for violating classification laws who also didn't have intent to do so.

The law should be applied equally to all individuals. Comey did not do so, and his firing was long overdue.


Soliders are charged under a completely separate legal system - the Uniform Code of Military Justice. Distribution of confidential information seems to be treated much more harshly under that system. Related, I believe military prosecutors have much less discretion with regard to intent than civilian prosecutors. While I agree that officers should not be treated so harshly when they make an honest mistake, it seems that the military takes a much more black/white view of the matter.
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The above ignores the 9 figures of money the Trumps have repeatedly claimed they have taken from Russians in investments.

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Anonymous wrote:The above ignores the 9 figures of money the Trumps have repeatedly claimed they have taken from Russians in investments.


I'm sure it has or will come out in the investigation. But will Trump's supporters care? I doubt it.
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Anonymous wrote:You'll note that Rosenstein's memo does not recommend firing Comey. He had the foresight to at least not put that in writing.


As it should be. He should not be recommending, just laying out fact.


That's not the claim Donald Trump made in the letter firing Comey. He called it Rosenstein's and Sessions' recommendation:



Exactly. A letter full of lies and dissembling.
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Noun. Verb. Russia.
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Anonymous wrote:If your mad about anything other than Trump's cozy relationship with the Russians, then you are doing it wrong. He is acting in a treasonous manner for personal gain and putting his interests above the country.

Everything else is noise.


We are allowed to do business with Russia for God's sake. There's a business council for God's sake!


Trump has done business with Russia. He also swears he hasn't and intends to attest to it in an affidavit.


Trump did not do ILLEGAL business with Russia. LEGAL business is just that.


Actually his New Jersey casinos laundered Russian money. Could be construed as illegal business.
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