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Anonymous wrote:Miguel's make up was awful.

He looks dead! I wonder whether they accidentally hired a mortuary make up artist.


More likely one from the living dead. People who do make up for wakes are supposed to make them look healthy--almost life like.

Older Miguel looked oddly spray tanned and almost glowing in a ghostly way.
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Anonymous wrote:I have loved Sterling K. Brown since he played Roland on Army Wives. I love this show and I hope it sweeps the Emmys. That last scene in the dojo last week buried me.


+1, loved him then, love him even more now!!1
Sterling's wife IRL plays Yvette on the show, the mother of young Randall's friend. They both graduated from Stanford Univ and were college sweethearts.
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The dojo scene for me was pretty contrived. I'm not sure how realistic it would be to see so many black fathers present. I think they wrote the scene b/c they know Milo could do the push ups. Not sure what the point of the "extra" push ups were. Why was white mom the only mom there?


What a racist comment! Do you really think most black men abandon their children? Do you really think that black fathers don't participate in their childrens' extracurricular activities? Look around at the family places you go and you will see black fathers present. Unless - your world doesn't include black families.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
The dojo scene for me was pretty contrived. I'm not sure how realistic it would be to see so many black fathers present. I think they wrote the scene b/c they know Milo could do the push ups. Not sure what the point of the "extra" push ups were. Why was white mom the only mom there?


What a racist comment! Do you really think most black men abandon their children? Do you really think that black fathers don't participate in their childrens' extracurricular activities? Look around at the family places you go and you will see black fathers present. Unless - your world doesn't include black families.


Np here. Sorry that is so not racist. The tv show was showing an "ideal" which has not been true for AA families in the US for a long time. There are concrete stats. What they should have chosen to show were all the hard working single AA mothers supporting their sons!!!
Anonymous
Relax, and ENJOY the show, PP!!!
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
The dojo scene for me was pretty contrived. I'm not sure how realistic it would be to see so many black fathers present. I think they wrote the scene b/c they know Milo could do the push ups. Not sure what the point of the "extra" push ups were. Why was white mom the only mom there?


What a racist comment! Do you really think most black men abandon their children? Do you really think that black fathers don't participate in their childrens' extracurricular activities? Look around at the family places you go and you will see black fathers present. Unless - your world doesn't include black families.


Np here. Sorry that is so not racist. The tv show was showing an "ideal" which has not been true for AA families in the US for a long time. There are concrete stats. What they should have chosen to show were all the hard working single AA mothers supporting their sons!!!


I think the dojo was a special place for dedicated AA fathers to support their kids. In the face of systemic racism, which includes racism in the criminal justice system that further breaks down families, the dojo was a safe place to build family and community. That's why it started a little awkward with Jack being there. But because his love for Randall was so apparent and the dojo community realized that Randall needed their support, they welcomed welcomed Jack and family.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
The dojo scene for me was pretty contrived. I'm not sure how realistic it would be to see so many black fathers present. I think they wrote the scene b/c they know Milo could do the push ups. Not sure what the point of the "extra" push ups were. Why was white mom the only mom there?


What a racist comment! Do you really think most black men abandon their children? Do you really think that black fathers don't participate in their childrens' extracurricular activities? Look around at the family places you go and you will see black fathers present. Unless - your world doesn't include black families.


Np here. Sorry that is so not racist. The tv show was showing an "ideal" which has not been true for AA families in the US for a long time. There are concrete stats. What they should have chosen to show were all the hard working single AA mothers supporting their sons!!!


It it racist. Many black families were two parent back in the 70s and early 80s. The breakdown came in the 80s when divorce among all women increased and in the 90s after the flooding of drugs into the black community and the war on drugs which incarcerated blacks at triple the rate of whites.
Getting back to the show, the black people at the country club were well to do, middle class, the black people that Rebecca and Jack interacted with were middle class successful blacks whose fathers were every bit as involved as Jack in their childrens' lives. That you find this so unbelievable is really ridiculous.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
The dojo scene for me was pretty contrived. I'm not sure how realistic it would be to see so many black fathers present. I think they wrote the scene b/c they know Milo could do the push ups. Not sure what the point of the "extra" push ups were. Why was white mom the only mom there?


What a racist comment! Do you really think most black men abandon their children? Do you really think that black fathers don't participate in their childrens' extracurricular activities? Look around at the family places you go and you will see black fathers present. Unless - your world doesn't include black families.


Np here. Sorry that is so not racist. The tv show was showing an "ideal" which has not been true for AA families in the US for a long time. There are concrete stats. What they should have chosen to show were all the hard working single AA mothers supporting their sons!!!


It it racist. Many black families were two parent back in the 70s and early 80s. The breakdown came in the 80s when divorce among all women increased and in the 90s after the flooding of drugs into the black community and the war on drugs which incarcerated blacks at triple the rate of whites.
Getting back to the show, the black people at the country club were well to do, middle class, the black people that Rebecca and Jack interacted with were middle class successful blacks whose fathers were every bit as involved as Jack in their childrens' lives. That you find this so unbelievable is really ridiculous.


You are an idiot.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
The dojo scene for me was pretty contrived. I'm not sure how realistic it would be to see so many black fathers present. I think they wrote the scene b/c they know Milo could do the push ups. Not sure what the point of the "extra" push ups were. Why was white mom the only mom there?


What a racist comment! Do you really think most black men abandon their children? Do you really think that black fathers don't participate in their childrens' extracurricular activities? Look around at the family places you go and you will see black fathers present. Unless - your world doesn't include black families.


Np here. Sorry that is so not racist. The tv show was showing an "ideal" which has not been true for AA families in the US for a long time. There are concrete stats. What they should have chosen to show were all the hard working single AA mothers supporting their sons!!!


It it racist. Many black families were two parent back in the 70s and early 80s. The breakdown came in the 80s when divorce among all women increased and in the 90s after the flooding of drugs into the black community and the war on drugs which incarcerated blacks at triple the rate of whites.
Getting back to the show, the black people at the country club were well to do, middle class, the black people that Rebecca and Jack interacted with were middle class successful blacks whose fathers were every bit as involved as Jack in their childrens' lives. That you find this so unbelievable is really ridiculous.


Country club?
Anonymous
Look, saying that the number of black fathers at the dojo is "idealized" isn't racist.

The "missing" black man isn't b/c black men aren't involved in their families. It's a disturbing trend for decades in urban crime and disproportionate jail sentences and draft/military recruitment practices.

Black men were about 9-11% of the population in the US during the 1970s--yet they made up 12.6% of the soldiers serving in Vietnam: http://www.english.illinois.edu/maps/poets/s_z/stevens/africanamer.htm

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/04/20/upshot/missing-black-men.html?_r=0

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It it racist. Many black families were two parent back in the 70s and early 80s. The breakdown came in the 80s when divorce among all women increased and in the 90s after the flooding of drugs into the black community and the war on drugs which incarcerated blacks at triple the rate of whites.
Getting back to the show, the black people at the country club were well to do, middle class, the black people that Rebecca and Jack interacted with were middle class successful blacks whose fathers were every bit as involved as Jack in their childrens' lives. That you find this so unbelievable is really ridiculous.


Country club?

I think PP means the scene at the pool. Although I agree with everything else she says, I don't think that was supposed to be a country club, but a public pool run by the county/town/township. Like Bethesda Pool here rather than Bethesda Country Club.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Look, saying that the number of black fathers at the dojo is "idealized" isn't racist.

The "missing" black man isn't b/c black men aren't involved in their families. It's a disturbing trend for decades in urban crime and disproportionate jail sentences and draft/military recruitment practices.

Black men were about 9-11% of the population in the US during the 1970s--yet they made up 12.6% of the soldiers serving in Vietnam: http://www.english.illinois.edu/maps/poets/s_z/stevens/africanamer.htm

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/04/20/upshot/missing-black-men.html?_r=0



It is extremely ignorant to think that black fathers aren't present and that the scene with the black dads is idealized. Is your life completely void of black men at work, at your children's schools, socially, etc? Are you saying that Jack isn't the idealized white dad or all white fathers just like Jack? It's so easy for you to get articles and post them, but do you spend anytime in the black community, at their schools, at their churches, etc. But instead of considering or just using common sense to realize that black fathers are involved with their children, you'd rather hang on to stereotypes. I know plenty of dads like the ones in the dojo and like Randall. If you don't personally know any it doesn't mean they don't exist.
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Anonymous wrote:Look, saying that the number of black fathers at the dojo is "idealized" isn't racist.

The "missing" black man isn't b/c black men aren't involved in their families. It's a disturbing trend for decades in urban crime and disproportionate jail sentences and draft/military recruitment practices.

Black men were about 9-11% of the population in the US during the 1970s--yet they made up 12.6% of the soldiers serving in Vietnam: http://www.english.illinois.edu/maps/poets/s_z/stevens/africanamer.htm

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/04/20/upshot/missing-black-men.html?_r=0



It is extremely ignorant to think that black fathers aren't present and that the scene with the black dads is idealized. Is your life completely void of black men at work, at your children's schools, socially, etc? Are you saying that Jack isn't the idealized white dad or all white fathers just like Jack? It's so easy for you to get articles and post them, but do you spend anytime in the black community, at their schools, at their churches, etc. But instead of considering or just using common sense to realize that black fathers are involved with their children, you'd rather hang on to stereotypes. I know plenty of dads like the ones in the dojo and like Randall. If you don't personally know any it doesn't mean they don't exist.


On the contrary. My life is and has been full of black men and families, and i can tell you that in the 70s and 80s it wasn't all happy families until the drug gangs of the 90s. This is a far deeper set issue within the AA community.
Anonymous
I am not going out copy a very long quote but I'm responding to the above. I am a white woman who grew up in the 70s, I am 52. All of my friends and acquaintances, who were African-American had fathers in their lives. I do not think it was all that uncommon in the 70s. The PP who thinks that it was, it must be reacting to stereotypes. And now in my workplace, I work with a few African-American woman and men , and for the most part they are all married. The stereotype of a single AA woman raising her kids is more of an urban, low socioeconomic stereotype.
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