Things you secretly oppose, but don't want other people to know:

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Anonymous wrote:What's with all the hate for IVF? Because I can't get pregnant naturally I should just accept that? By that line of reasoning I should decline treatment for a cancer dx.

I personally don't understand the desire to have a child that's biologically yours. I have seen too many marriages break up over the wife's overwhelming desire to have a biological child. It's not the end all be all and there are other ways to create a family.

Men just follow along because they are trying to do what's going to make their wives happy.

Do you have a biological child? I'm guessing no and that's for the best, I'm sure. The desire to have a child that is "biologically" yours is just that - BIOLOGY. It is perfectly normal and all of the snarky, rotten to black on the inside hateful people like you can rail against BIOLOGY all you want, but it won't change it. You are not fucking God and you're not going to change human nature, so get over it already.

Total over reaction.

All I said was that I personally don't understand the desire to have a biological child. I just don't get it. I never had any overwhelming desire to have children and thought I would adopt if I really, truly, wanted a child. Then my birth control failed. I was married and there was no reason to have an abortion so I had a baby. God, do I love that child, and the sibling that soon followed. I didn't have the ticking clock or any brooding. I just kind of fell into motherhood.

We still had the plan of adopting older children until we discovered our second was severely disabled. Biology didn't give me a child without issues. And no one in the history of my family, or DH's, has had the problems our child has. This child ended any and all ideas of adding to our family.

Yippee. All your clarification did was highlight how uniquely unqualified you are to judge other people, since your personal story is relevant only to you. And it's particularly telling that someone who "fell into" biological motherhood feels the need to secretly judge women who didn't have it so easy. What a peach you are.

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" He was a good kid and turning his life around"...I have heard this many times after somebody has been gunned down 2 am in DC.

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Anonymous wrote:What's with all the hate for IVF? Because I can't get pregnant naturally I should just accept that? By that line of reasoning I should decline treatment for a cancer dx.

I personally don't understand the desire to have a child that's biologically yours. I have seen too many marriages break up over the wife's overwhelming desire to have a biological child. It's not the end all be all and there are other ways to create a family.

Men just follow along because they are trying to do what's going to make their wives happy.

Do you have a biological child? I'm guessing no and that's for the best, I'm sure. The desire to have a child that is "biologically" yours is just that - BIOLOGY. It is perfectly normal and all of the snarky, rotten to black on the inside hateful people like you can rail against BIOLOGY all you want, but it won't change it. You are not fucking God and you're not going to change human nature, so get over it already.

Total over reaction.

All I said was that I personally don't understand the desire to have a biological child. I just don't get it. I never had any overwhelming desire to have children and thought I would adopt if I really, truly, wanted a child. Then my birth control failed. I was married and there was no reason to have an abortion so I had a baby. God, do I love that child, and the sibling that soon followed. I didn't have the ticking clock or any brooding. I just kind of fell into motherhood.

We still had the plan of adopting older children until we discovered our second was severely disabled. Biology didn't give me a child without issues. And no one in the history of my family, or DH's, has had the problems our child has. This child ended any and all ideas of adding to our family.

So, since you "feel into motherhood", it is supposed to happen the same way to everybody else.

And, btw, you have no clue what you would do if things didn't happen to you the way they did. Just because you "didn't have overwhelming desire for children" at some point, doesn't mean you wouldn't have had it down the road. The world is full of women who had no desire for children at 30 only to go for donor eggs (and other ART) at 40+. You just might have been one of those women going through 10 ivfs.

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Wow, what a total shit-wreck this thread turned into.

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I'm opposed to the "don't let your cat be an outdoor cat, because think of the birds!" brigade.

Hell, if anything, that's a motivation for me to get a bunch of cats and make them outdoor cats - and not wear a bell.

Birds are creepy animals. Fuck their constant side eye and 4am chirping.

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Anonymous wrote:I am personally sick of the "troop love" everyone in the military is a hero sentiment. Let's face it 80% of those enlisted (not officers) would be flipping burgers if they did not have the military as an option. It is a glorified welfare system

You are an asshole! You get to sleep peacefully at night because of "those enlisted"! You should go and see "those enlisted" over at Walter Reed Medical Center with no arms/legs; then come back and let us know if they don't deserve some "troop love". Would you have felt the same if your child joined?

I didn't respond to the posters who are so anti military. But I do want to say this. I have two sons in the Army. Both are enlisted. One graduates from college in a few weeks. The other starts college in 9 months. Both served in Afghanistan. One did tours in both Afghanistan and Iraq. At one point I had two boys serving in a war zone at the same time-one with the 82nd Airborne and the other with a combat engineer battalion. Both were injured while overseas, thankfully not seriously.

I post only to say-your words have power and today your words hurt me deeply. I know I am just some random Internet stranger. But I am a real person who nearly lost a son overseas. When I say your words hurt, I mean they literally made me cry. I think that says a whole lot more about you than it does me or my boys.

One more thing...My dad is a retired two star General and my husband was an officer before he joined the FBI. I've spent most of my life around troops. You reference "enlisted" as welfare people. NO ONE I know in the military, Officer or otherwise, would ever refer to our young soldiers that way.

I didn't post that, but I am also anti-military. I do NOT believe that "the troops" are keeping me safe or are heros or are brave. I believe a lot of them glorify playing with guns and being tough and wanting people to look up to them/feel sorry for them/thank them for "their service to the country." I believe "the troops" are doing what America has done for decades - going where they are sent to butt into other countries business when noone asked us to get involved. Then they come back here unprepared for the civilian life, unsupported with their health issues, and just sit around doing nothing meaningful. I'm sorry, PP. Hopefully your sons are nice kids. But I will always think anyone who chooses to go into the military is on the stupid side.

Not the PP you were responding to, but really? Your bolded statement betrays your utter ignorance. Many people receive training from the military that they can apply in the civilian world, and they do. I know many of these people, and their intelligence and leadership skills are first rate. Are there low-level enlisted soldiers who come back unprepared? Of course. But to suggest that all troops enter civilian life unprepared is plain ignorance.

Must be why AFN runs so many commercials about not shaking your baby and how to balance a checkbook...

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People who justify all kinds of selfish things they do that are not in the best interest of their children on the basis that by putting their own needs first, they are happier people, thus they will be better parents. Bullsh#t!!

Example: everyone who works 65+ hour weeks, people who have a 'happy hour' on their lawn every Friday while the kids play outside in nice weather. They tie one on in front of their kids every week, turn down most things so this can happen: play date? Soccer team? Nope, they have a date with a glass of wine every Friday. And the friends who let NOTHING interfere with their date night. Kids got a fever? Oh well, the sitter has our number. And the marathon runners and other fitness zealots: something has to give in order to train like that, even if its your own sleep. And a tired, cranky parent isn't a great parent or spouse either. Some people just can't put their own interests aside when needed. And I secretly think less of them, regardless of their great bank account, body, social life, etc.

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People dressing children in trendy clothes. Even it's an outfit that would be tasteful on an adult, it looks like they want their kids to little trophies to show off their own style. So inappropriate and tacky.

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Anonymous wrote:People who justify all kinds of selfish things they do that are not in the best interest of their children on the basis that by putting their own needs first, they are happier people, thus they will be better parents. Bullsh#t!!

Example: everyone who works 65+ hour weeks, people who have a 'happy hour' on their lawn every Friday while the kids play outside in nice weather. They tie one on in front of their kids every week, turn down most things so this can happen: play date? Soccer team? Nope, they have a date with a glass of wine every Friday. And the friends who let NOTHING interfere with their date night. Kids got a fever? Oh well, the sitter has our number. And the marathon runners and other fitness zealots: something has to give in order to train like that, even if its your own sleep. And a tired, cranky parent isn't a great parent or spouse either. Some people just can't put their own interests aside when needed. And I secretly think less of them, regardless of their great bank account, body, social life, etc.

Damn, you just gave me a great idea for summer Friday nights.

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Anonymous wrote:What things do you not agree with, but you never (or rarely) mention it to others because you fear the response and/or don't want folks to know your opinion on the issue?

For me:

-Adoption (that goes doubly for international adoption)
-Interracial marriage

Why interracial marriage? It is accepted in most (all?) religions. Is it a cultural pride thing (you know, like the Klan or the Panthers - mostly kidding)?

OP here. Doesn't matter. I'm against it and feel that it creates more discord than harmony.

If you think it "creates" discord, you might want to consider whether you are incredibly racist deep-down and believe there are inherent differences between the races that cannot be overcome in the same way that, say, different views on politics can.

Oh, she doesn't need to consider if she is racist "deep down". It is right there on the surface for all to see.

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Anonymous wrote:I am personally sick of the "troop love" everyone in the military is a hero sentiment. Let's face it 80% of those enlisted (not officers) would be flipping burgers if they did not have the military as an option. It is a glorified welfare system

You are an asshole! You get to sleep peacefully at night because of "those enlisted"! You should go and see "those enlisted" over at Walter Reed Medical Center with no arms/legs; then come back and let us know if they don't deserve some "troop love". Would you have felt the same if your child joined?

I didn't respond to the posters who are so anti military. But I do want to say this. I have two sons in the Army. Both are enlisted. One graduates from college in a few weeks. The other starts college in 9 months. Both served in Afghanistan. One did tours in both Afghanistan and Iraq. At one point I had two boys serving in a war zone at the same time-one with the 82nd Airborne and the other with a combat engineer battalion. Both were injured while overseas, thankfully not seriously.

I post only to say-your words have power and today your words hurt me deeply. I know I am just some random Internet stranger. But I am a real person who nearly lost a son overseas. When I say your words hurt, I mean they literally made me cry. I think that says a whole lot more about you than it does me or my boys.

One more thing...My dad is a retired two star General and my husband was an officer before he joined the FBI. I've spent most of my life around troops. You reference "enlisted" as welfare people. NO ONE I know in the military, Officer or otherwise, would ever refer to our young soldiers that way.

NP here. I don't exactly share the sentiment of the previous poster (e.g. about flipping burgers) and I'm sorry that you are hurt by it. However, I don't think that the entire country has to glorify the work of the military. I didn't ask your son to go to Afghanistan or Iraq. In fact, I'd rather they stayed home safely with you. This jingoistic bullshit about fighting for freedom just rubs me the wrong way. If your family wants to devote your lives to the military that's great for you and I recognize that it involves sacrifices, but I don't understand why I have to thank you for doing something that I didn't ask for and don't support. There are plenty of other people in the country (yourself included) who will pat your sons on the back. If my own child chose to join the military I would be worried for him and stressed about it, but I wouldn't be grateful.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am personally sick of the "troop love" everyone in the military is a hero sentiment. Let's face it 80% of those enlisted (not officers) would be flipping burgers if they did not have the military as an option. It is a glorified welfare system

You are an asshole! You get to sleep peacefully at night because of "those enlisted"! You should go and see "those enlisted" over at Walter Reed Medical Center with no arms/legs; then come back and let us know if they don't deserve some "troop love". Would you have felt the same if your child joined?

I didn't respond to the posters who are so anti military. But I do want to say this. I have two sons in the Army. Both are enlisted. One graduates from college in a few weeks. The other starts college in 9 months. Both served in Afghanistan. One did tours in both Afghanistan and Iraq. At one point I had two boys serving in a war zone at the same time-one with the 82nd Airborne and the other with a combat engineer battalion. Both were injured while overseas, thankfully not seriously.

I post only to say-your words have power and today your words hurt me deeply. I know I am just some random Internet stranger. But I am a real person who nearly lost a son overseas. When I say your words hurt, I mean they literally made me cry. I think that says a whole lot more about you than it does me or my boys.

One more thing...My dad is a retired two star General and my husband was an officer before he joined the FBI. I've spent most of my life around troops. You reference "enlisted" as welfare people. NO ONE I know in the military, Officer or otherwise, would ever refer to our young soldiers that way.

I didn't post that, but I am also anti-military. I do NOT believe that "the troops" are keeping me safe or are heros or are brave. I believe a lot of them glorify playing with guns and being tough and wanting people to look up to them/feel sorry for them/thank them for "their service to the country." I believe "the troops" are doing what America has done for decades - going where they are sent to butt into other countries business when noone asked us to get involved. Then they come back here unprepared for the civilian life, unsupported with their health issues, and just sit around doing nothing meaningful. I'm sorry, PP. Hopefully your sons are nice kids. But I will always think anyone who chooses to go into the military is on the stupid side.

+1,000,000

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Anonymous wrote:I'm opposed to the "don't let your cat be an outdoor cat, because think of the birds!" brigade.

Hell, if anything, that's a motivation for me to get a bunch of cats and make them outdoor cats - and not wear a bell.

Birds are creepy animals. Fuck their constant side eye and 4am chirping.

This made me laugh out loud.

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Anonymous wrote:People who justify all kinds of selfish things they do that are not in the best interest of their children on the basis that by putting their own needs first, they are happier people, thus they will be better parents. Bullsh#t!!

Example: everyone who works 65+ hour weeks, people who have a 'happy hour' on their lawn every Friday while the kids play outside in nice weather. They tie one on in front of their kids every week, turn down most things so this can happen: play date? Soccer team? Nope, they have a date with a glass of wine every Friday. And the friends who let NOTHING interfere with their date night. Kids got a fever? Oh well, the sitter has our number. And the marathon runners and other fitness zealots: something has to give in order to train like that, even if its your own sleep. And a tired, cranky parent isn't a great parent or spouse either. Some people just can't put their own interests aside when needed. And I secretly think less of them, regardless of their great bank account, body, social life, etc.

The horrors of exercise and one glass of wine, every. single. week!!!

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I'm opposed to the constant misunderstanding of the word terrorist.

A terrorist is not just someone who does something scary. A terrorist is a member of an organized group using violence in an attempt to achieve political goals.

Newtown was not a terrorist act.
Boston, so far, looks like it was not a terrorist act.
9/11 was a terrorist act.