I’m so sick of dogs everywhere

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Anonymous wrote:I’m just going to jump in without reading anything and simply say - I told my daughter who is highly allergic to dogs that if she’s ever stuck beside one on a plane she has no obligation to cover her mouth as she sneezes the entire flight and feel free to turn her head towards the dog owner.

You bring your dog, you deal with peoples’ allergies.

Flame away.

DP, sorry, why wouldn't she just ask to move? the airline would likely accommodate... weird that your recommendation is to escalate the aggression, instead of finding a work around for everyone....

Full plane.

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Anonymous wrote:A coworker has been bringing her dog into the office! No one asked whether it was okay with everyone else who works there. This isn’t a service dog.

How do you know, with certainty, that it's not a service animal? Does it have a little sign that says "100% pure pet. Not a service animal"? Because unless it does, you may be very wrong about the dog's purpose.

Service dogs should have some sort of ID, a badge, special vest, or special dog collar that's official and that only service dogs can wear. That way they are easy to spot and identify. The same way your car has to have a disabled parking permit on display for you to park in a disabled parking spot could be done for animals also.

No official ID to show that it's a service dog, then no entry to restaurants, bars etc.

also, real service dogs, because of their training, are well behaved in public.

Everyone with a dog should be required to get a dog that has undergone training like service dogs. Please, for society's sake.

That would honestly be amazing. It would also magically cure my kid of her fear of dogs overnight, I suspect. She is super skittish around dogs on sidewalks and at the park, but then her class did a field trip to the police station and she met a police dog and happily gave him pets (with permission from his trainer) and interacted with him. She could just tell he was not a threat to her in any way.

Very different from the idiots who let their dogs off leash at our local park (right in front of numerous signs stating "No dogs off leash" and "No dogs on playground") and then when the dog bounds right up to my kid while she's playing and she screams and runs away, they get all offended and will sit there explaining "she's just the sweetest dog, she'd never hurt anyone!" Actually she's an untrained animal that you don't even bother to keep on a leash, and she could easily ruin some child's entire life if accidentally provoked because you've done nothing to prevent that from happening, you f***ing moron.

Are you the one calling people ‘morons’ in the other pet threads? Your dd has much bigger problems than a dog running up to her… if this is so upsetting to you and to her (I can only assume your anxiety is contagious), she’s going to need a lot of help in the world

Nah you are the moron. Many kids are fearful.
-DP

And a parent should not encourage this

Encourage what? Being afraid of off leash, untrained dogs in places they are not supposed to be? Why?

It's very normal for a person who is two feet tall to be wary of an animal the same height who has teeth and claws and dies not appear to be under the control of a human. It's not a phobia, it's a natural impulse towards self preservation.

Sure, its normal to have *some* trepidation, but as a parent, I would want to try to discourage excessive anxiety in my child and teach them how to engage with dogs because they will encounter them throughout their lives, and yes, some will approach them. As opposed to the people on this forum who are 'so upset' about a dog coming up to them, or the ones talking about knifing or shooting 'any animal that approaches me!!' NUTS.

I suspect that the people on here lurking around who get so upset about these relatively minor interactions with dogs are those with aggressive pet breeds themselves. Do you have any dogs? What kind?

My kid's natural and originally mild trepidation around dogs has gotten more severe because there are so many off leash and untrained dogs in our neighborhood. The dogs bound right up, either on no leash or on a very long lead, and their owners make no effort to exercise control over them. It freaks her out and has made her really wary of all dogs because she doesn't know what to expect from them.

One thing I get so tired of hearing from dog owners when they see her fear is "it's okay, my dogs friendly" while doing nothing to get their dog to heel. But if your dog is trained and you encounter a kid who is afraid of them, you could do a lot to help ease those fears by *demonstrating* the dog isn't a threat. I always tell my kid to pay attention to how trained dogs stay close to their owners, and respond to calls to stop, heel, or sit. My kid knows to look for those signs to help her know a dog is "safe." The idiots who are letting their dogs run up to kids they don't even know on the street or at the park and then saying "she's friendly!" and getting mad at a child for having fear are making the situation worse.

worse yet, they allow their dogs to bound up to DC who is very allergic to them! They say the same thing, ‘he’s frienfly!’

It’s your job to keep your child away.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m just going to jump in without reading anything and simply say - I told my daughter who is highly allergic to dogs that if she’s ever stuck beside one on a plane she has no obligation to cover her mouth as she sneezes the entire flight and feel free to turn her head towards the dog owner.

You bring your dog, you deal with peoples’ allergies.

Flame away.

DP, sorry, why wouldn't she just ask to move? the airline would likely accommodate... weird that your recommendation is to escalate the aggression, instead of finding a work around for everyone....

🙄 of course first step would be a request to move. I meant if she got stuck beside a dog.

A dog can only be in the cabin if it's small enough to fit in a crate under the seat or if it's a service dog. If you have a problem with the policy, take it up with the airline, not the dog owner. They are doing nothing wrong.

How is “service dog” defined?

No policy against sneezing. She’d also not be doing anything wrong. If the dog owner doesn’t like it, tough luck.

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Anonymous wrote:I saw a huge old retriever in the freezer aisle at the grocery store the other day. At first I was a little taken aback, but the dog and its owner were so friendly looking, we ended up chatting for 10 Mn.

Was the dog well behaved (not sniffing stuff, not approaching people, staying focused on its owner?). It could have been a service dog.

No, it was not a service dog. But it was a nice old mellow dog and the woman said she goes almost everywhere with him, and there was no reason he shouldnt go in the grocery store with her.

It's a grocery store. There's the reason. Damn...

I'm a dog lover to my core and this nonsense is ridiculous. Leave your pets at home, people.

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Anonymous wrote:A coworker has been bringing her dog into the office! No one asked whether it was okay with everyone else who works there. This isn’t a service dog.

How do you know, with certainty, that it's not a service animal? Does it have a little sign that says "100% pure pet. Not a service animal"? Because unless it does, you may be very wrong about the dog's purpose.

Service dogs should have some sort of ID, a badge, special vest, or special dog collar that's official and that only service dogs can wear. That way they are easy to spot and identify. The same way your car has to have a disabled parking permit on display for you to park in a disabled parking spot could be done for animals also.

No official ID to show that it's a service dog, then no entry to restaurants, bars etc.

also, real service dogs, because of their training, are well behaved in public.

Everyone with a dog should be required to get a dog that has undergone training like service dogs. Please, for society's sake.

That would honestly be amazing. It would also magically cure my kid of her fear of dogs overnight, I suspect. She is super skittish around dogs on sidewalks and at the park, but then her class did a field trip to the police station and she met a police dog and happily gave him pets (with permission from his trainer) and interacted with him. She could just tell he was not a threat to her in any way.

Very different from the idiots who let their dogs off leash at our local park (right in front of numerous signs stating "No dogs off leash" and "No dogs on playground") and then when the dog bounds right up to my kid while she's playing and she screams and runs away, they get all offended and will sit there explaining "she's just the sweetest dog, she'd never hurt anyone!" Actually she's an untrained animal that you don't even bother to keep on a leash, and she could easily ruin some child's entire life if accidentally provoked because you've done nothing to prevent that from happening, you f***ing moron.

Are you the one calling people ‘morons’ in the other pet threads? Your dd has much bigger problems than a dog running up to her… if this is so upsetting to you and to her (I can only assume your anxiety is contagious), she’s going to need a lot of help in the world

Nah you are the moron. Many kids are fearful.
-DP

And a parent should not encourage this

Encourage what? Being afraid of off leash, untrained dogs in places they are not supposed to be? Why?

It's very normal for a person who is two feet tall to be wary of an animal the same height who has teeth and claws and dies not appear to be under the control of a human. It's not a phobia, it's a natural impulse towards self preservation.

Sure, its normal to have *some* trepidation, but as a parent, I would want to try to discourage excessive anxiety in my child and teach them how to engage with dogs because they will encounter them throughout their lives, and yes, some will approach them. As opposed to the people on this forum who are 'so upset' about a dog coming up to them, or the ones talking about knifing or shooting 'any animal that approaches me!!' NUTS.

I suspect that the people on here lurking around who get so upset about these relatively minor interactions with dogs are those with aggressive pet breeds themselves. Do you have any dogs? What kind?

My kid's natural and originally mild trepidation around dogs has gotten more severe because there are so many off leash and untrained dogs in our neighborhood. The dogs bound right up, either on no leash or on a very long lead, and their owners make no effort to exercise control over them. It freaks her out and has made her really wary of all dogs because she doesn't know what to expect from them.

One thing I get so tired of hearing from dog owners when they see her fear is "it's okay, my dogs friendly" while doing nothing to get their dog to heel. But if your dog is trained and you encounter a kid who is afraid of them, you could do a lot to help ease those fears by *demonstrating* the dog isn't a threat. I always tell my kid to pay attention to how trained dogs stay close to their owners, and respond to calls to stop, heel, or sit. My kid knows to look for those signs to help her know a dog is "safe." The idiots who are letting their dogs run up to kids they don't even know on the street or at the park and then saying "she's friendly!" and getting mad at a child for having fear are making the situation worse.

100% this. If your dog is "friendly", it's on leash, at heel, fully under your control and, ideally, sitting or down at your feet while I pass.

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Anonymous wrote:A coworker has been bringing her dog into the office! No one asked whether it was okay with everyone else who works there. This isn’t a service dog.

How do you know, with certainty, that it's not a service animal? Does it have a little sign that says "100% pure pet. Not a service animal"? Because unless it does, you may be very wrong about the dog's purpose.

Service dogs should have some sort of ID, a badge, special vest, or special dog collar that's official and that only service dogs can wear. That way they are easy to spot and identify. The same way your car has to have a disabled parking permit on display for you to park in a disabled parking spot could be done for animals also.

No official ID to show that it's a service dog, then no entry to restaurants, bars etc.

also, real service dogs, because of their training, are well behaved in public.

Everyone with a dog should be required to get a dog that has undergone training like service dogs. Please, for society's sake.

That would honestly be amazing. It would also magically cure my kid of her fear of dogs overnight, I suspect. She is super skittish around dogs on sidewalks and at the park, but then her class did a field trip to the police station and she met a police dog and happily gave him pets (with permission from his trainer) and interacted with him. She could just tell he was not a threat to her in any way.

Very different from the idiots who let their dogs off leash at our local park (right in front of numerous signs stating "No dogs off leash" and "No dogs on playground") and then when the dog bounds right up to my kid while she's playing and she screams and runs away, they get all offended and will sit there explaining "she's just the sweetest dog, she'd never hurt anyone!" Actually she's an untrained animal that you don't even bother to keep on a leash, and she could easily ruin some child's entire life if accidentally provoked because you've done nothing to prevent that from happening, you f***ing moron.

Are you the one calling people ‘morons’ in the other pet threads? Your dd has much bigger problems than a dog running up to her… if this is so upsetting to you and to her (I can only assume your anxiety is contagious), she’s going to need a lot of help in the world

Nah you are the moron. Many kids are fearful.
-DP

And a parent should not encourage this

Encourage what? Being afraid of off leash, untrained dogs in places they are not supposed to be? Why?

It's very normal for a person who is two feet tall to be wary of an animal the same height who has teeth and claws and dies not appear to be under the control of a human. It's not a phobia, it's a natural impulse towards self preservation.

Sure, its normal to have *some* trepidation, but as a parent, I would want to try to discourage excessive anxiety in my child and teach them how to engage with dogs because they will encounter them throughout their lives, and yes, some will approach them. As opposed to the people on this forum who are 'so upset' about a dog coming up to them, or the ones talking about knifing or shooting 'any animal that approaches me!!' NUTS.

I suspect that the people on here lurking around who get so upset about these relatively minor interactions with dogs are those with aggressive pet breeds themselves. Do you have any dogs? What kind?

My kid's natural and originally mild trepidation around dogs has gotten more severe because there are so many off leash and untrained dogs in our neighborhood. The dogs bound right up, either on no leash or on a very long lead, and their owners make no effort to exercise control over them. It freaks her out and has made her really wary of all dogs because she doesn't know what to expect from them.

One thing I get so tired of hearing from dog owners when they see her fear is "it's okay, my dogs friendly" while doing nothing to get their dog to heel. But if your dog is trained and you encounter a kid who is afraid of them, you could do a lot to help ease those fears by *demonstrating* the dog isn't a threat. I always tell my kid to pay attention to how trained dogs stay close to their owners, and respond to calls to stop, heel, or sit. My kid knows to look for those signs to help her know a dog is "safe." The idiots who are letting their dogs run up to kids they don't even know on the street or at the park and then saying "she's friendly!" and getting mad at a child for having fear are making the situation worse.

worse yet, they allow their dogs to bound up to DC who is very allergic to them! They say the same thing, ‘he’s frienfly!’

It’s your job to keep your child away.

It is illegal for you to have an unleashed dog in public areas.

The responsibility is 100% on the dog owners to keep their dogs away from other people and children.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m just going to jump in without reading anything and simply say - I told my daughter who is highly allergic to dogs that if she’s ever stuck beside one on a plane she has no obligation to cover her mouth as she sneezes the entire flight and feel free to turn her head towards the dog owner.

You bring your dog, you deal with peoples’ allergies.

Flame away.

DP, sorry, why wouldn't she just ask to move? the airline would likely accommodate... weird that your recommendation is to escalate the aggression, instead of finding a work around for everyone....

🙄 of course first step would be a request to move. I meant if she got stuck beside a dog.

A dog can only be in the cabin if it's small enough to fit in a crate under the seat or if it's a service dog. If you have a problem with the policy, take it up with the airline, not the dog owner. They are doing nothing wrong.

How is “service dog” defined?

No policy against sneezing. She’d also not be doing anything wrong. If the dog owner doesn’t like it, tough luck.

A dog that has been individually trained to perform tasks that mitigate the effects of a person's disability. These tasks must be directly related to the individual's disability.

My son went to college with a girl who had a service dog. Her dog was trained to alert her when her heart rate increased to a specific level.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m just going to jump in without reading anything and simply say - I told my daughter who is highly allergic to dogs that if she’s ever stuck beside one on a plane she has no obligation to cover her mouth as she sneezes the entire flight and feel free to turn her head towards the dog owner.

You bring your dog, you deal with peoples’ allergies.

Flame away.

DP, sorry, why wouldn't she just ask to move? the airline would likely accommodate... weird that your recommendation is to escalate the aggression, instead of finding a work around for everyone....

🙄 of course first step would be a request to move. I meant if she got stuck beside a dog.

A dog can only be in the cabin if it's small enough to fit in a crate under the seat or if it's a service dog. If you have a problem with the policy, take it up with the airline, not the dog owner. They are doing nothing wrong.

How is “service dog” defined?

No policy against sneezing. She’d also not be doing anything wrong. If the dog owner doesn’t like it, tough luck.

A dog that has been individually trained to perform tasks that mitigate the effects of a person's disability. These tasks must be directly related to the individual's disability.

My son went to college with a girl who had a service dog. Her dog was trained to alert her when her heart rate increased to a specific level.

Oh, and if somebody purposely sneezed in my face because they were mad that the airline allowed my dog on a plane, you'd be getting slapped in the face. And if you instructed your kid to do it, you would get cussed out.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m just going to jump in without reading anything and simply say - I told my daughter who is highly allergic to dogs that if she’s ever stuck beside one on a plane she has no obligation to cover her mouth as she sneezes the entire flight and feel free to turn her head towards the dog owner.

You bring your dog, you deal with peoples’ allergies.

Flame away.

DP, sorry, why wouldn't she just ask to move? the airline would likely accommodate... weird that your recommendation is to escalate the aggression, instead of finding a work around for everyone....

🙄 of course first step would be a request to move. I meant if she got stuck beside a dog.

A dog can only be in the cabin if it's small enough to fit in a crate under the seat or if it's a service dog. If you have a problem with the policy, take it up with the airline, not the dog owner. They are doing nothing wrong.

How is “service dog” defined?

No policy against sneezing. She’d also not be doing anything wrong. If the dog owner doesn’t like it, tough luck.

A dog that has been individually trained to perform tasks that mitigate the effects of a person's disability. These tasks must be directly related to the individual's disability.

My son went to college with a girl who had a service dog. Her dog was trained to alert her when her heart rate increased to a specific level.

Purposely sneezing on someone could be considered assault.

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Anonymous wrote:A coworker has been bringing her dog into the office! No one asked whether it was okay with everyone else who works there. This isn’t a service dog.

How do you know, with certainty, that it's not a service animal? Does it have a little sign that says "100% pure pet. Not a service animal"? Because unless it does, you may be very wrong about the dog's purpose.

Service dogs should have some sort of ID, a badge, special vest, or special dog collar that's official and that only service dogs can wear. That way they are easy to spot and identify. The same way your car has to have a disabled parking permit on display for you to park in a disabled parking spot could be done for animals also.

No official ID to show that it's a service dog, then no entry to restaurants, bars etc.

also, real service dogs, because of their training, are well behaved in public.

Everyone with a dog should be required to get a dog that has undergone training like service dogs. Please, for society's sake.

That would honestly be amazing. It would also magically cure my kid of her fear of dogs overnight, I suspect. She is super skittish around dogs on sidewalks and at the park, but then her class did a field trip to the police station and she met a police dog and happily gave him pets (with permission from his trainer) and interacted with him. She could just tell he was not a threat to her in any way.

Very different from the idiots who let their dogs off leash at our local park (right in front of numerous signs stating "No dogs off leash" and "No dogs on playground") and then when the dog bounds right up to my kid while she's playing and she screams and runs away, they get all offended and will sit there explaining "she's just the sweetest dog, she'd never hurt anyone!" Actually she's an untrained animal that you don't even bother to keep on a leash, and she could easily ruin some child's entire life if accidentally provoked because you've done nothing to prevent that from happening, you f***ing moron.

Are you the one calling people ‘morons’ in the other pet threads? Your dd has much bigger problems than a dog running up to her… if this is so upsetting to you and to her (I can only assume your anxiety is contagious), she’s going to need a lot of help in the world

Nah you are the moron. Many kids are fearful.
-DP

And a parent should not encourage this

Encourage what? Being afraid of off leash, untrained dogs in places they are not supposed to be? Why?

It's very normal for a person who is two feet tall to be wary of an animal the same height who has teeth and claws and dies not appear to be under the control of a human. It's not a phobia, it's a natural impulse towards self preservation.

Sure, its normal to have *some* trepidation, but as a parent, I would want to try to discourage excessive anxiety in my child and teach them how to engage with dogs because they will encounter them throughout their lives, and yes, some will approach them. As opposed to the people on this forum who are 'so upset' about a dog coming up to them, or the ones talking about knifing or shooting 'any animal that approaches me!!' NUTS.

I suspect that the people on here lurking around who get so upset about these relatively minor interactions with dogs are those with aggressive pet breeds themselves. Do you have any dogs? What kind?

My kid's natural and originally mild trepidation around dogs has gotten more severe because there are so many off leash and untrained dogs in our neighborhood. The dogs bound right up, either on no leash or on a very long lead, and their owners make no effort to exercise control over them. It freaks her out and has made her really wary of all dogs because she doesn't know what to expect from them.

One thing I get so tired of hearing from dog owners when they see her fear is "it's okay, my dogs friendly" while doing nothing to get their dog to heel. But if your dog is trained and you encounter a kid who is afraid of them, you could do a lot to help ease those fears by *demonstrating* the dog isn't a threat. I always tell my kid to pay attention to how trained dogs stay close to their owners, and respond to calls to stop, heel, or sit. My kid knows to look for those signs to help her know a dog is "safe." The idiots who are letting their dogs run up to kids they don't even know on the street or at the park and then saying "she's friendly!" and getting mad at a child for having fear are making the situation worse.

worse yet, they allow their dogs to bound up to DC who is very allergic to them! They say the same thing, ‘he’s frienfly!’

It’s your job to keep your child away.

It is illegal for you to have an unleashed dog in public areas.

The responsibility is 100% on the dog owners to keep their dogs away from other people and children.

This times a million.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m just going to jump in without reading anything and simply say - I told my daughter who is highly allergic to dogs that if she’s ever stuck beside one on a plane she has no obligation to cover her mouth as she sneezes the entire flight and feel free to turn her head towards the dog owner.

You bring your dog, you deal with peoples’ allergies.

Flame away.

DP, sorry, why wouldn't she just ask to move? the airline would likely accommodate... weird that your recommendation is to escalate the aggression, instead of finding a work around for everyone....

🙄 of course first step would be a request to move. I meant if she got stuck beside a dog.

A dog can only be in the cabin if it's small enough to fit in a crate under the seat or if it's a service dog. If you have a problem with the policy, take it up with the airline, not the dog owner. They are doing nothing wrong.

How is “service dog” defined?

No policy against sneezing. She’d also not be doing anything wrong. If the dog owner doesn’t like it, tough luck.

A dog that has been individually trained to perform tasks that mitigate the effects of a person's disability. These tasks must be directly related to the individual's disability.

My son went to college with a girl who had a service dog. Her dog was trained to alert her when her heart rate increased to a specific level.

Oh, and if somebody purposely sneezed in my face because they were mad that the airline allowed my dog on a plane, you'd be getting slapped in the face. And if you instructed your kid to do it, you would get cussed out.

You sound like a viral video of a toxic passenger waiting to happen.

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Anonymous wrote:A coworker has been bringing her dog into the office! No one asked whether it was okay with everyone else who works there. This isn’t a service dog.

How do you know, with certainty, that it's not a service animal? Does it have a little sign that says "100% pure pet. Not a service animal"? Because unless it does, you may be very wrong about the dog's purpose.

Service dogs should have some sort of ID, a badge, special vest, or special dog collar that's official and that only service dogs can wear. That way they are easy to spot and identify. The same way your car has to have a disabled parking permit on display for you to park in a disabled parking spot could be done for animals also.

No official ID to show that it's a service dog, then no entry to restaurants, bars etc.

also, real service dogs, because of their training, are well behaved in public.

Everyone with a dog should be required to get a dog that has undergone training like service dogs. Please, for society's sake.

That would honestly be amazing. It would also magically cure my kid of her fear of dogs overnight, I suspect. She is super skittish around dogs on sidewalks and at the park, but then her class did a field trip to the police station and she met a police dog and happily gave him pets (with permission from his trainer) and interacted with him. She could just tell he was not a threat to her in any way.

Very different from the idiots who let their dogs off leash at our local park (right in front of numerous signs stating "No dogs off leash" and "No dogs on playground") and then when the dog bounds right up to my kid while she's playing and she screams and runs away, they get all offended and will sit there explaining "she's just the sweetest dog, she'd never hurt anyone!" Actually she's an untrained animal that you don't even bother to keep on a leash, and she could easily ruin some child's entire life if accidentally provoked because you've done nothing to prevent that from happening, you f***ing moron.

Are you the one calling people ‘morons’ in the other pet threads? Your dd has much bigger problems than a dog running up to her… if this is so upsetting to you and to her (I can only assume your anxiety is contagious), she’s going to need a lot of help in the world

Nah you are the moron. Many kids are fearful.
-DP

And a parent should not encourage this

Encourage what? Being afraid of off leash, untrained dogs in places they are not supposed to be? Why?

It's very normal for a person who is two feet tall to be wary of an animal the same height who has teeth and claws and dies not appear to be under the control of a human. It's not a phobia, it's a natural impulse towards self preservation.

Sure, its normal to have *some* trepidation, but as a parent, I would want to try to discourage excessive anxiety in my child and teach them how to engage with dogs because they will encounter them throughout their lives, and yes, some will approach them. As opposed to the people on this forum who are 'so upset' about a dog coming up to them, or the ones talking about knifing or shooting 'any animal that approaches me!!' NUTS.

I suspect that the people on here lurking around who get so upset about these relatively minor interactions with dogs are those with aggressive pet breeds themselves. Do you have any dogs? What kind?

My kid's natural and originally mild trepidation around dogs has gotten more severe because there are so many off leash and untrained dogs in our neighborhood. The dogs bound right up, either on no leash or on a very long lead, and their owners make no effort to exercise control over them. It freaks her out and has made her really wary of all dogs because she doesn't know what to expect from them.

One thing I get so tired of hearing from dog owners when they see her fear is "it's okay, my dogs friendly" while doing nothing to get their dog to heel. But if your dog is trained and you encounter a kid who is afraid of them, you could do a lot to help ease those fears by *demonstrating* the dog isn't a threat. I always tell my kid to pay attention to how trained dogs stay close to their owners, and respond to calls to stop, heel, or sit. My kid knows to look for those signs to help her know a dog is "safe." The idiots who are letting their dogs run up to kids they don't even know on the street or at the park and then saying "she's friendly!" and getting mad at a child for having fear are making the situation worse.

worse yet, they allow their dogs to bound up to DC who is very allergic to them! They say the same thing, ‘he’s frienfly!’

It’s your job to keep your child away.

It is illegal for you to have an unleashed dog in public areas.

The responsibility is 100% on the dog owners to keep their dogs away from other people and children.

Yes, in Maryland and in DC and some local jurisdiction in Virginia and New York. But not everywhere. Just trying to be inclusive. It’s a national board.,

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Anonymous wrote:A coworker has been bringing her dog into the office! No one asked whether it was okay with everyone else who works there. This isn’t a service dog.

How do you know, with certainty, that it's not a service animal? Does it have a little sign that says "100% pure pet. Not a service animal"? Because unless it does, you may be very wrong about the dog's purpose.

Service dogs should have some sort of ID, a badge, special vest, or special dog collar that's official and that only service dogs can wear. That way they are easy to spot and identify. The same way your car has to have a disabled parking permit on display for you to park in a disabled parking spot could be done for animals also.

No official ID to show that it's a service dog, then no entry to restaurants, bars etc.

also, real service dogs, because of their training, are well behaved in public.

Everyone with a dog should be required to get a dog that has undergone training like service dogs. Please, for society's sake.

That would honestly be amazing. It would also magically cure my kid of her fear of dogs overnight, I suspect. She is super skittish around dogs on sidewalks and at the park, but then her class did a field trip to the police station and she met a police dog and happily gave him pets (with permission from his trainer) and interacted with him. She could just tell he was not a threat to her in any way.

Very different from the idiots who let their dogs off leash at our local park (right in front of numerous signs stating "No dogs off leash" and "No dogs on playground") and then when the dog bounds right up to my kid while she's playing and she screams and runs away, they get all offended and will sit there explaining "she's just the sweetest dog, she'd never hurt anyone!" Actually she's an untrained animal that you don't even bother to keep on a leash, and she could easily ruin some child's entire life if accidentally provoked because you've done nothing to prevent that from happening, you f***ing moron.

Are you the one calling people ‘morons’ in the other pet threads? Your dd has much bigger problems than a dog running up to her… if this is so upsetting to you and to her (I can only assume your anxiety is contagious), she’s going to need a lot of help in the world

Nah you are the moron. Many kids are fearful.
-DP

And a parent should not encourage this

Encourage what? Being afraid of off leash, untrained dogs in places they are not supposed to be? Why?

It's very normal for a person who is two feet tall to be wary of an animal the same height who has teeth and claws and dies not appear to be under the control of a human. It's not a phobia, it's a natural impulse towards self preservation.

Sure, its normal to have *some* trepidation, but as a parent, I would want to try to discourage excessive anxiety in my child and teach them how to engage with dogs because they will encounter them throughout their lives, and yes, some will approach them. As opposed to the people on this forum who are 'so upset' about a dog coming up to them, or the ones talking about knifing or shooting 'any animal that approaches me!!' NUTS.

I suspect that the people on here lurking around who get so upset about these relatively minor interactions with dogs are those with aggressive pet breeds themselves. Do you have any dogs? What kind?

My kid's natural and originally mild trepidation around dogs has gotten more severe because there are so many off leash and untrained dogs in our neighborhood. The dogs bound right up, either on no leash or on a very long lead, and their owners make no effort to exercise control over them. It freaks her out and has made her really wary of all dogs because she doesn't know what to expect from them.

One thing I get so tired of hearing from dog owners when they see her fear is "it's okay, my dogs friendly" while doing nothing to get their dog to heel. But if your dog is trained and you encounter a kid who is afraid of them, you could do a lot to help ease those fears by *demonstrating* the dog isn't a threat. I always tell my kid to pay attention to how trained dogs stay close to their owners, and respond to calls to stop, heel, or sit. My kid knows to look for those signs to help her know a dog is "safe." The idiots who are letting their dogs run up to kids they don't even know on the street or at the park and then saying "she's friendly!" and getting mad at a child for having fear are making the situation worse.

worse yet, they allow their dogs to bound up to DC who is very allergic to them! They say the same thing, ‘he’s frienfly!’

It’s your job to keep your child away.

How do I keep my child away from an unleashed dog on a playground? How do I keep my child away from dogs in restaurants and grocery stores?

Really, I'm asking. I would like to do this but the dogs are everywhere, their owners don't control them. Please explain how I keep my child away from these dogs.

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Anonymous wrote:A coworker has been bringing her dog into the office! No one asked whether it was okay with everyone else who works there. This isn’t a service dog.

How do you know, with certainty, that it's not a service animal? Does it have a little sign that says "100% pure pet. Not a service animal"? Because unless it does, you may be very wrong about the dog's purpose.

Service dogs should have some sort of ID, a badge, special vest, or special dog collar that's official and that only service dogs can wear. That way they are easy to spot and identify. The same way your car has to have a disabled parking permit on display for you to park in a disabled parking spot could be done for animals also.

No official ID to show that it's a service dog, then no entry to restaurants, bars etc.

also, real service dogs, because of their training, are well behaved in public.

Everyone with a dog should be required to get a dog that has undergone training like service dogs. Please, for society's sake.

That would honestly be amazing. It would also magically cure my kid of her fear of dogs overnight, I suspect. She is super skittish around dogs on sidewalks and at the park, but then her class did a field trip to the police station and she met a police dog and happily gave him pets (with permission from his trainer) and interacted with him. She could just tell he was not a threat to her in any way.

Very different from the idiots who let their dogs off leash at our local park (right in front of numerous signs stating "No dogs off leash" and "No dogs on playground") and then when the dog bounds right up to my kid while she's playing and she screams and runs away, they get all offended and will sit there explaining "she's just the sweetest dog, she'd never hurt anyone!" Actually she's an untrained animal that you don't even bother to keep on a leash, and she could easily ruin some child's entire life if accidentally provoked because you've done nothing to prevent that from happening, you f***ing moron.

Are you the one calling people ‘morons’ in the other pet threads? Your dd has much bigger problems than a dog running up to her… if this is so upsetting to you and to her (I can only assume your anxiety is contagious), she’s going to need a lot of help in the world

Nah you are the moron. Many kids are fearful.
-DP

And a parent should not encourage this

Encourage what? Being afraid of off leash, untrained dogs in places they are not supposed to be? Why?

It's very normal for a person who is two feet tall to be wary of an animal the same height who has teeth and claws and dies not appear to be under the control of a human. It's not a phobia, it's a natural impulse towards self preservation.

Sure, its normal to have *some* trepidation, but as a parent, I would want to try to discourage excessive anxiety in my child and teach them how to engage with dogs because they will encounter them throughout their lives, and yes, some will approach them. As opposed to the people on this forum who are 'so upset' about a dog coming up to them, or the ones talking about knifing or shooting 'any animal that approaches me!!' NUTS.

I suspect that the people on here lurking around who get so upset about these relatively minor interactions with dogs are those with aggressive pet breeds themselves. Do you have any dogs? What kind?

My kid's natural and originally mild trepidation around dogs has gotten more severe because there are so many off leash and untrained dogs in our neighborhood. The dogs bound right up, either on no leash or on a very long lead, and their owners make no effort to exercise control over them. It freaks her out and has made her really wary of all dogs because she doesn't know what to expect from them.

One thing I get so tired of hearing from dog owners when they see her fear is "it's okay, my dogs friendly" while doing nothing to get their dog to heel. But if your dog is trained and you encounter a kid who is afraid of them, you could do a lot to help ease those fears by *demonstrating* the dog isn't a threat. I always tell my kid to pay attention to how trained dogs stay close to their owners, and respond to calls to stop, heel, or sit. My kid knows to look for those signs to help her know a dog is "safe." The idiots who are letting their dogs run up to kids they don't even know on the street or at the park and then saying "she's friendly!" and getting mad at a child for having fear are making the situation worse.

worse yet, they allow their dogs to bound up to DC who is very allergic to them! They say the same thing, ‘he’s frienfly!’

It’s your job to keep your child away.

How do I keep my child away from an unleashed dog on a playground? How do I keep my child away from dogs in restaurants and grocery stores?

Really, I'm asking. I would like to do this but the dogs are everywhere, their owners don't control them. Please explain how I keep my child away from these dogs.

Pick your kid up, and kick the dog (if it's close enough for you to do so, the owner wasn't properly controlling it). The dogs shouldn't be running loose in a store or restaurant, so that's pretty easy to avoid, too. Keep your eyes open, and when you encounter a dog, move away.

Teach your kid to never approach a dog they don't know, and to find you immediately if/when they see an off-leash dog in public. This protects you from 99% of all encounters.

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Anonymous wrote:H and I had a date night this weekend at our favorite restaurant. We sat on the patio outside. Two other tables brought their dogs, who literally barked and lunged at each other the entire evening.

One of the dogs was right next to us and kept hitting H’s leg. The owner super passive aggressively kept saying loudly to his date “I think that couple is mad I have my dog here”.

The next day I went to the grocery store and two people had dogs. And they weren’t service dogs. One was massive and kept blocking the entire aisle. Owner was clueless.

If you’re one of those people who needs to take your dog everywhere, why?

Mental illness.