I’m so sick of dogs everywhere

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Anonymous wrote:I’m just going to jump in without reading anything and simply say - I told my daughter who is highly allergic to dogs that if she’s ever stuck beside one on a plane she has no obligation to cover her mouth as she sneezes the entire flight and feel free to turn her head towards the dog owner.

You bring your dog, you deal with peoples’ allergies.

Flame away.

DP, sorry, why wouldn't she just ask to move? the airline would likely accommodate... weird that your recommendation is to escalate the aggression, instead of finding a work around for everyone....

🙄 of course first step would be a request to move. I meant if she got stuck beside a dog.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m just going to jump in without reading anything and simply say - I told my daughter who is highly allergic to dogs that if she’s ever stuck beside one on a plane she has no obligation to cover her mouth as she sneezes the entire flight and feel free to turn her head towards the dog owner.

You bring your dog, you deal with peoples’ allergies.

Flame away.

DP, sorry, why wouldn't she just ask to move? the airline would likely accommodate... weird that your recommendation is to escalate the aggression, instead of finding a work around for everyone....

🙄 of course first step would be a request to move. I meant if she got stuck beside a dog.

A dog can only be in the cabin if it's small enough to fit in a crate under the seat or if it's a service dog. If you have a problem with the policy, take it up with the airline, not the dog owner. They are doing nothing wrong.

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Anonymous wrote:A coworker has been bringing her dog into the office! No one asked whether it was okay with everyone else who works there. This isn’t a service dog.

How do you know, with certainty, that it's not a service animal? Does it have a little sign that says "100% pure pet. Not a service animal"? Because unless it does, you may be very wrong about the dog's purpose.

Service dogs should have some sort of ID, a badge, special vest, or special dog collar that's official and that only service dogs can wear. That way they are easy to spot and identify. The same way your car has to have a disabled parking permit on display for you to park in a disabled parking spot could be done for animals also.

No official ID to show that it's a service dog, then no entry to restaurants, bars etc.

also, real service dogs, because of their training, are well behaved in public.

Everyone with a dog should be required to get a dog that has undergone training like service dogs. Please, for society's sake.

That would honestly be amazing. It would also magically cure my kid of her fear of dogs overnight, I suspect. She is super skittish around dogs on sidewalks and at the park, but then her class did a field trip to the police station and she met a police dog and happily gave him pets (with permission from his trainer) and interacted with him. She could just tell he was not a threat to her in any way.

Very different from the idiots who let their dogs off leash at our local park (right in front of numerous signs stating "No dogs off leash" and "No dogs on playground") and then when the dog bounds right up to my kid while she's playing and she screams and runs away, they get all offended and will sit there explaining "she's just the sweetest dog, she'd never hurt anyone!" Actually she's an untrained animal that you don't even bother to keep on a leash, and she could easily ruin some child's entire life if accidentally provoked because you've done nothing to prevent that from happening, you f***ing moron.

Are you the one calling people ‘morons’ in the other pet threads? Your dd has much bigger problems than a dog running up to her… if this is so upsetting to you and to her (I can only assume your anxiety is contagious), she’s going to need a lot of help in the world

Nah you are the moron. Many kids are fearful.
-DP

And a parent should not encourage this

Encourage what? Being afraid of off leash, untrained dogs in places they are not supposed to be? Why?

It's very normal for a person who is two feet tall to be wary of an animal the same height who has teeth and claws and dies not appear to be under the control of a human. It's not a phobia, it's a natural impulse towards self preservation.

Sure, its normal to have *some* trepidation, but as a parent, I would want to try to discourage excessive anxiety in my child and teach them how to engage with dogs because they will encounter them throughout their lives, and yes, some will approach them. As opposed to the people on this forum who are 'so upset' about a dog coming up to them, or the ones talking about knifing or shooting 'any animal that approaches me!!' NUTS.

I suspect that the people on here lurking around who get so upset about these relatively minor interactions with dogs are those with aggressive pet breeds themselves. Do you have any dogs? What kind?

My kid's natural and originally mild trepidation around dogs has gotten more severe because there are so many off leash and untrained dogs in our neighborhood. The dogs bound right up, either on no leash or on a very long lead, and their owners make no effort to exercise control over them. It freaks her out and has made her really wary of all dogs because she doesn't know what to expect from them.

One thing I get so tired of hearing from dog owners when they see her fear is "it's okay, my dogs friendly" while doing nothing to get their dog to heel. But if your dog is trained and you encounter a kid who is afraid of them, you could do a lot to help ease those fears by *demonstrating* the dog isn't a threat. I always tell my kid to pay attention to how trained dogs stay close to their owners, and respond to calls to stop, heel, or sit. My kid knows to look for those signs to help her know a dog is "safe." The idiots who are letting their dogs run up to kids they don't even know on the street or at the park and then saying "she's friendly!" and getting mad at a child for having fear are making the situation worse.

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One of the worst places is hotels
If you must bring a dog, find a one or two story motel instead.

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Anonymous wrote:A coworker has been bringing her dog into the office! No one asked whether it was okay with everyone else who works there. This isn’t a service dog.

How do you know, with certainty, that it's not a service animal? Does it have a little sign that says "100% pure pet. Not a service animal"? Because unless it does, you may be very wrong about the dog's purpose.

Service dogs should have some sort of ID, a badge, special vest, or special dog collar that's official and that only service dogs can wear. That way they are easy to spot and identify. The same way your car has to have a disabled parking permit on display for you to park in a disabled parking spot could be done for animals also.

No official ID to show that it's a service dog, then no entry to restaurants, bars etc.

also, real service dogs, because of their training, are well behaved in public.

Everyone with a dog should be required to get a dog that has undergone training like service dogs. Please, for society's sake.

That would honestly be amazing. It would also magically cure my kid of her fear of dogs overnight, I suspect. She is super skittish around dogs on sidewalks and at the park, but then her class did a field trip to the police station and she met a police dog and happily gave him pets (with permission from his trainer) and interacted with him. She could just tell he was not a threat to her in any way.

Very different from the idiots who let their dogs off leash at our local park (right in front of numerous signs stating "No dogs off leash" and "No dogs on playground") and then when the dog bounds right up to my kid while she's playing and she screams and runs away, they get all offended and will sit there explaining "she's just the sweetest dog, she'd never hurt anyone!" Actually she's an untrained animal that you don't even bother to keep on a leash, and she could easily ruin some child's entire life if accidentally provoked because you've done nothing to prevent that from happening, you f***ing moron.

Are you the one calling people ‘morons’ in the other pet threads? Your dd has much bigger problems than a dog running up to her… if this is so upsetting to you and to her (I can only assume your anxiety is contagious), she’s going to need a lot of help in the world

Nah you are the moron. Many kids are fearful.
-DP

And a parent should not encourage this

Encourage what? Being afraid of off leash, untrained dogs in places they are not supposed to be? Why?

It's very normal for a person who is two feet tall to be wary of an animal the same height who has teeth and claws and dies not appear to be under the control of a human. It's not a phobia, it's a natural impulse towards self preservation.

Sure, its normal to have *some* trepidation, but as a parent, I would want to try to discourage excessive anxiety in my child and teach them how to engage with dogs because they will encounter them throughout their lives, and yes, some will approach them. As opposed to the people on this forum who are 'so upset' about a dog coming up to them, or the ones talking about knifing or shooting 'any animal that approaches me!!' NUTS.

I suspect that the people on here lurking around who get so upset about these relatively minor interactions with dogs are those with aggressive pet breeds themselves. Do you have any dogs? What kind?

My kid's natural and originally mild trepidation around dogs has gotten more severe because there are so many off leash and untrained dogs in our neighborhood. The dogs bound right up, either on no leash or on a very long lead, and their owners make no effort to exercise control over them. It freaks her out and has made her really wary of all dogs because she doesn't know what to expect from them.

One thing I get so tired of hearing from dog owners when they see her fear is "it's okay, my dogs friendly" while doing nothing to get their dog to heel. But if your dog is trained and you encounter a kid who is afraid of them, you could do a lot to help ease those fears by *demonstrating* the dog isn't a threat. I always tell my kid to pay attention to how trained dogs stay close to their owners, and respond to calls to stop, heel, or sit. My kid knows to look for those signs to help her know a dog is "safe." The idiots who are letting their dogs run up to kids they don't even know on the street or at the park and then saying "she's friendly!" and getting mad at a child for having fear are making the situation worse.

You DO need to teach your daughter to display confidence when these dogs approach her even if she’s feeling fear inside. Dogs are hypersensitive to human emotion and they literally do smell fear and they can respond to fear in a deep seated instinctive way which is to become more aggressive toward perceived prey.

I used to live in a condo complex where some guy would let his big young pit bull run loose in our courtyard. It really unnerved me because the dog was fairly aggressive being young and unaltered and untrained and just feeling his hormones. But when he ran up to greet me I would stand tall and loudly and firmly tell him to GO HOME and he would turn tail and head back the other way.

She should be wary of strange dogs, definitely. But she should also stand tall and express confidence because that is what dogs instinctively respect. It’s just like when park rangers tell you to raise your arms and shout and such to scare off a bear or other predator you encounter on back country trails.

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Anonymous wrote:A coworker has been bringing her dog into the office! No one asked whether it was okay with everyone else who works there. This isn’t a service dog.

How do you know, with certainty, that it's not a service animal? Does it have a little sign that says "100% pure pet. Not a service animal"? Because unless it does, you may be very wrong about the dog's purpose.

Service dogs should have some sort of ID, a badge, special vest, or special dog collar that's official and that only service dogs can wear. That way they are easy to spot and identify. The same way your car has to have a disabled parking permit on display for you to park in a disabled parking spot could be done for animals also.

No official ID to show that it's a service dog, then no entry to restaurants, bars etc.

This is 100% false. There is no official ID and service dogs aren't required to wear anything specific at all, harness, badge, collar, whatever.

/seeing eye dog raiser

She said service dogs "should" have an official ID, similar to a handicap tag for parking spots.

I agree, as does virtually every reasonable person. The only people who don't agree are the rude folks trying to sneak their poorly trained pet dogs into places they don't belong.

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Anonymous wrote:A coworker has been bringing her dog into the office! No one asked whether it was okay with everyone else who works there. This isn’t a service dog.

How do you know, with certainty, that it's not a service animal? Does it have a little sign that says "100% pure pet. Not a service animal"? Because unless it does, you may be very wrong about the dog's purpose.

Service dogs should have some sort of ID, a badge, special vest, or special dog collar that's official and that only service dogs can wear. That way they are easy to spot and identify. The same way your car has to have a disabled parking permit on display for you to park in a disabled parking spot could be done for animals also.

No official ID to show that it's a service dog, then no entry to restaurants, bars etc.

This is 100% false. There is no official ID and service dogs aren't required to wear anything specific at all, harness, badge, collar, whatever.

/seeing eye dog raiser

The point of my post was that there should be some sort of way to identify a genuine service dog. What is false about that?

I think that the PP meant that since there is no registry or agency which tracks, certifies, or licenses service animals in the US, there is currently no legitimate way to provide that sort of documentation. Service dogs are not all trained through agency programs, some are trained by the owner/handler or by a private trainer and requiring a certification might be classed as discrimination.

PP here.
All I'm saying is that there should be a legal way to identify a genuine service animal.... a change in the laws perhaps? I don't see why that's discrimination. After all, disabled people hang disabled permits in their vehicles to allow them to use a disabled parking spot, no one says that they are being discriminated against.

And maybe service dogs should be at least tested and approved my official agencies even if they are trained by owners and private handlers.

In order for that not to be obvious economic discrimination the testing, registration, certificate, id, etc would have to be provided at no cost to the disabled individual. If you want to lobby your representative to change current laws pertaining to service animals, go ahead. As of this moment, what you want is not possible to provide.

Most people eould be fine with no cost testing of the trained service dog by a govt agency. Something similar to a drivers license test after a person completes drivers ed on their own.

This would week out most of the fakers taking advantage of disability protections.

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Anonymous wrote:A coworker has been bringing her dog into the office! No one asked whether it was okay with everyone else who works there. This isn’t a service dog.

How do you know, with certainty, that it's not a service animal? Does it have a little sign that says "100% pure pet. Not a service animal"? Because unless it does, you may be very wrong about the dog's purpose.

Service dogs should have some sort of ID, a badge, special vest, or special dog collar that's official and that only service dogs can wear. That way they are easy to spot and identify. The same way your car has to have a disabled parking permit on display for you to park in a disabled parking spot could be done for animals also.

No official ID to show that it's a service dog, then no entry to restaurants, bars etc.

This is 100% false. There is no official ID and service dogs aren't required to wear anything specific at all, harness, badge, collar, whatever.

/seeing eye dog raiser

The point of my post was that there should be some sort of way to identify a genuine service dog. What is false about that?

I think that the PP meant that since there is no registry or agency which tracks, certifies, or licenses service animals in the US, there is currently no legitimate way to provide that sort of documentation. Service dogs are not all trained through agency programs, some are trained by the owner/handler or by a private trainer and requiring a certification might be classed as discrimination.

PP here.
All I'm saying is that there should be a legal way to identify a genuine service animal.... a change in the laws perhaps? I don't see why that's discrimination. After all, disabled people hang disabled permits in their vehicles to allow them to use a disabled parking spot, no one says that they are being discriminated against.

And maybe service dogs should be at least tested and approved my official agencies even if they are trained by owners and private handlers.

In order for that not to be obvious economic discrimination the testing, registration, certificate, id, etc would have to be provided at no cost to the disabled individual. If you want to lobby your representative to change current laws pertaining to service animals, go ahead. As of this moment, what you want is not possible to provide.

Disabled people pay for things now, electric wheel chairs, crutches etc. People pay for medications etc. Asking someone to pay for licensing or a permit for their animal would not be the life changing event that you make it seem to be. The simple truth is that restaurants and stores do have signs displayed at the entrance saying no animals allowed unless it's a service animal. If entitled people stopped thinking that their animals needed to eat in restaurants, fly on planes or go to food stores, then there wouldn't be a problem and people working in these establishments wouldn't have to be put on the spot about asking whether the animal was a genuine service animal or not. The fact that workers are not allowed to ask people about their animals is why spoilt animal owners feel that they can get away with taking their animals into places were only service animals are supposed to enter. The animal owners with their emotional support animal vests, or cats on leashes, and even pet lizards are the ones abusing the system.

Say it louder for the folks in the back.

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Anonymous wrote:A coworker has been bringing her dog into the office! No one asked whether it was okay with everyone else who works there. This isn’t a service dog.

How do you know, with certainty, that it's not a service animal? Does it have a little sign that says "100% pure pet. Not a service animal"? Because unless it does, you may be very wrong about the dog's purpose.

Service dogs should have some sort of ID, a badge, special vest, or special dog collar that's official and that only service dogs can wear. That way they are easy to spot and identify. The same way your car has to have a disabled parking permit on display for you to park in a disabled parking spot could be done for animals also.

No official ID to show that it's a service dog, then no entry to restaurants, bars etc.

also, real service dogs, because of their training, are well behaved in public.

Everyone with a dog should be required to get a dog that has undergone training like service dogs. Please, for society's sake.

That would honestly be amazing. It would also magically cure my kid of her fear of dogs overnight, I suspect. She is super skittish around dogs on sidewalks and at the park, but then her class did a field trip to the police station and she met a police dog and happily gave him pets (with permission from his trainer) and interacted with him. She could just tell he was not a threat to her in any way.

Very different from the idiots who let their dogs off leash at our local park (right in front of numerous signs stating "No dogs off leash" and "No dogs on playground") and then when the dog bounds right up to my kid while she's playing and she screams and runs away, they get all offended and will sit there explaining "she's just the sweetest dog, she'd never hurt anyone!" Actually she's an untrained animal that you don't even bother to keep on a leash, and she could easily ruin some child's entire life if accidentally provoked because you've done nothing to prevent that from happening, you f***ing moron.

Are you the one calling people ‘morons’ in the other pet threads? Your dd has much bigger problems than a dog running up to her… if this is so upsetting to you and to her (I can only assume your anxiety is contagious), she’s going to need a lot of help in the world

Nah you are the moron. Many kids are fearful.
-DP

And a parent should not encourage this

As a pet owner, you should only unleash your dog in your own yard and NEVER allow them to run up to anyone who didn't invite them over.

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Anonymous wrote:A coworker has been bringing her dog into the office! No one asked whether it was okay with everyone else who works there. This isn’t a service dog.

How do you know, with certainty, that it's not a service animal? Does it have a little sign that says "100% pure pet. Not a service animal"? Because unless it does, you may be very wrong about the dog's purpose.

Service dogs should have some sort of ID, a badge, special vest, or special dog collar that's official and that only service dogs can wear. That way they are easy to spot and identify. The same way your car has to have a disabled parking permit on display for you to park in a disabled parking spot could be done for animals also.

No official ID to show that it's a service dog, then no entry to restaurants, bars etc.

also, real service dogs, because of their training, are well behaved in public.

Everyone with a dog should be required to get a dog that has undergone training like service dogs. Please, for society's sake.

That would honestly be amazing. It would also magically cure my kid of her fear of dogs overnight, I suspect. She is super skittish around dogs on sidewalks and at the park, but then her class did a field trip to the police station and she met a police dog and happily gave him pets (with permission from his trainer) and interacted with him. She could just tell he was not a threat to her in any way.

Very different from the idiots who let their dogs off leash at our local park (right in front of numerous signs stating "No dogs off leash" and "No dogs on playground") and then when the dog bounds right up to my kid while she's playing and she screams and runs away, they get all offended and will sit there explaining "she's just the sweetest dog, she'd never hurt anyone!" Actually she's an untrained animal that you don't even bother to keep on a leash, and she could easily ruin some child's entire life if accidentally provoked because you've done nothing to prevent that from happening, you f***ing moron.

Are you the one calling people ‘morons’ in the other pet threads? Your dd has much bigger problems than a dog running up to her… if this is so upsetting to you and to her (I can only assume your anxiety is contagious), she’s going to need a lot of help in the world

Nah you are the moron. Many kids are fearful.
-DP

And a parent should not encourage this

Encourage what? Being afraid of off leash, untrained dogs in places they are not supposed to be? Why?

It's very normal for a person who is two feet tall to be wary of an animal the same height who has teeth and claws and dies not appear to be under the control of a human. It's not a phobia, it's a natural impulse towards self preservation.

Sure, its normal to have *some* trepidation, but as a parent, I would want to try to discourage excessive anxiety in my child and teach them how to engage with dogs because they will encounter them throughout their lives, and yes, some will approach them. As opposed to the people on this forum who are 'so upset' about a dog coming up to them, or the ones talking about knifing or shooting 'any animal that approaches me!!' NUTS.

I suspect that the people on here lurking around who get so upset about these relatively minor interactions with dogs are those with aggressive pet breeds themselves. Do you have any dogs? What kind?

Your only respinsibility as a dog owner is to keep your dog leashed, away from kids not your own and away from strangers, unless invited.

It really is that simple.

It is not a parenting fail

It is a dog owner fail.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m just going to jump in without reading anything and simply say - I told my daughter who is highly allergic to dogs that if she’s ever stuck beside one on a plane she has no obligation to cover her mouth as she sneezes the entire flight and feel free to turn her head towards the dog owner.

You bring your dog, you deal with peoples’ allergies.

Flame away.

DP, sorry, why wouldn't she just ask to move? the airline would likely accommodate... weird that your recommendation is to escalate the aggression, instead of finding a work around for everyone....

Unless it is a service dog, dogs should not be in airplane cabins, restaurants, grocery stores, sports fields or playgrounds.

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Anonymous wrote:A coworker has been bringing her dog into the office! No one asked whether it was okay with everyone else who works there. This isn’t a service dog.

How do you know, with certainty, that it's not a service animal? Does it have a little sign that says "100% pure pet. Not a service animal"? Because unless it does, you may be very wrong about the dog's purpose.

Service dogs should have some sort of ID, a badge, special vest, or special dog collar that's official and that only service dogs can wear. That way they are easy to spot and identify. The same way your car has to have a disabled parking permit on display for you to park in a disabled parking spot could be done for animals also.

No official ID to show that it's a service dog, then no entry to restaurants, bars etc.

also, real service dogs, because of their training, are well behaved in public.

Everyone with a dog should be required to get a dog that has undergone training like service dogs. Please, for society's sake.

That would honestly be amazing. It would also magically cure my kid of her fear of dogs overnight, I suspect. She is super skittish around dogs on sidewalks and at the park, but then her class did a field trip to the police station and she met a police dog and happily gave him pets (with permission from his trainer) and interacted with him. She could just tell he was not a threat to her in any way.

Very different from the idiots who let their dogs off leash at our local park (right in front of numerous signs stating "No dogs off leash" and "No dogs on playground") and then when the dog bounds right up to my kid while she's playing and she screams and runs away, they get all offended and will sit there explaining "she's just the sweetest dog, she'd never hurt anyone!" Actually she's an untrained animal that you don't even bother to keep on a leash, and she could easily ruin some child's entire life if accidentally provoked because you've done nothing to prevent that from happening, you f***ing moron.

Are you the one calling people ‘morons’ in the other pet threads? Your dd has much bigger problems than a dog running up to her… if this is so upsetting to you and to her (I can only assume your anxiety is contagious), she’s going to need a lot of help in the world

Nah you are the moron. Many kids are fearful.
-DP

And a parent should not encourage this

Encourage what? Being afraid of off leash, untrained dogs in places they are not supposed to be? Why?

It's very normal for a person who is two feet tall to be wary of an animal the same height who has teeth and claws and dies not appear to be under the control of a human. It's not a phobia, it's a natural impulse towards self preservation.

Sure, its normal to have *some* trepidation, but as a parent, I would want to try to discourage excessive anxiety in my child and teach them how to engage with dogs because they will encounter them throughout their lives, and yes, some will approach them. As opposed to the people on this forum who are 'so upset' about a dog coming up to them, or the ones talking about knifing or shooting 'any animal that approaches me!!' NUTS.

I suspect that the people on here lurking around who get so upset about these relatively minor interactions with dogs are those with aggressive pet breeds themselves. Do you have any dogs? What kind?

My kid's natural and originally mild trepidation around dogs has gotten more severe because there are so many off leash and untrained dogs in our neighborhood. The dogs bound right up, either on no leash or on a very long lead, and their owners make no effort to exercise control over them. It freaks her out and has made her really wary of all dogs because she doesn't know what to expect from them.

One thing I get so tired of hearing from dog owners when they see her fear is "it's okay, my dogs friendly" while doing nothing to get their dog to heel. But if your dog is trained and you encounter a kid who is afraid of them, you could do a lot to help ease those fears by *demonstrating* the dog isn't a threat. I always tell my kid to pay attention to how trained dogs stay close to their owners, and respond to calls to stop, heel, or sit. My kid knows to look for those signs to help her know a dog is "safe." The idiots who are letting their dogs run up to kids they don't even know on the street or at the park and then saying "she's friendly!" and getting mad at a child for having fear are making the situation worse.

I rarely see a dog off leash. Kids walk up to my dog all the time with checked out parents. Mine doesn't want up to them. Your child shouldn't be walking up to any dog.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m just going to jump in without reading anything and simply say - I told my daughter who is highly allergic to dogs that if she’s ever stuck beside one on a plane she has no obligation to cover her mouth as she sneezes the entire flight and feel free to turn her head towards the dog owner.

You bring your dog, you deal with peoples’ allergies.

Flame away.

DP, sorry, why wouldn't she just ask to move? the airline would likely accommodate... weird that your recommendation is to escalate the aggression, instead of finding a work around for everyone....

Unless it is a service dog, dogs should not be in airplane cabins, restaurants, grocery stores, sports fields or playgrounds.

No, small dogs are allowed in the cabin in a carrier. Dogs are allowed at some restaurants that have outdoor seating.

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Anonymous wrote:A coworker has been bringing her dog into the office! No one asked whether it was okay with everyone else who works there. This isn’t a service dog.

How do you know, with certainty, that it's not a service animal? Does it have a little sign that says "100% pure pet. Not a service animal"? Because unless it does, you may be very wrong about the dog's purpose.

Service dogs should have some sort of ID, a badge, special vest, or special dog collar that's official and that only service dogs can wear. That way they are easy to spot and identify. The same way your car has to have a disabled parking permit on display for you to park in a disabled parking spot could be done for animals also.

No official ID to show that it's a service dog, then no entry to restaurants, bars etc.

also, real service dogs, because of their training, are well behaved in public.

Everyone with a dog should be required to get a dog that has undergone training like service dogs. Please, for society's sake.

That would honestly be amazing. It would also magically cure my kid of her fear of dogs overnight, I suspect. She is super skittish around dogs on sidewalks and at the park, but then her class did a field trip to the police station and she met a police dog and happily gave him pets (with permission from his trainer) and interacted with him. She could just tell he was not a threat to her in any way.

Very different from the idiots who let their dogs off leash at our local park (right in front of numerous signs stating "No dogs off leash" and "No dogs on playground") and then when the dog bounds right up to my kid while she's playing and she screams and runs away, they get all offended and will sit there explaining "she's just the sweetest dog, she'd never hurt anyone!" Actually she's an untrained animal that you don't even bother to keep on a leash, and she could easily ruin some child's entire life if accidentally provoked because you've done nothing to prevent that from happening, you f***ing moron.

Are you the one calling people ‘morons’ in the other pet threads? Your dd has much bigger problems than a dog running up to her… if this is so upsetting to you and to her (I can only assume your anxiety is contagious), she’s going to need a lot of help in the world

Nah you are the moron. Many kids are fearful.
-DP

And a parent should not encourage this

Encourage what? Being afraid of off leash, untrained dogs in places they are not supposed to be? Why?

It's very normal for a person who is two feet tall to be wary of an animal the same height who has teeth and claws and dies not appear to be under the control of a human. It's not a phobia, it's a natural impulse towards self preservation.

Sure, its normal to have *some* trepidation, but as a parent, I would want to try to discourage excessive anxiety in my child and teach them how to engage with dogs because they will encounter them throughout their lives, and yes, some will approach them. As opposed to the people on this forum who are 'so upset' about a dog coming up to them, or the ones talking about knifing or shooting 'any animal that approaches me!!' NUTS.

I suspect that the people on here lurking around who get so upset about these relatively minor interactions with dogs are those with aggressive pet breeds themselves. Do you have any dogs? What kind?

Your only respinsibility as a dog owner is to keep your dog leashed, away from kids not your own and away from strangers, unless invited.

It really is that simple.

It is not a parenting fail

It is a dog owner fail.

As a dog owner I do that but you cannot guess how many times adults and kids approach to pet my dog. When you say no, they do it anyway. I don't want your dirty hands on my dog.

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Anonymous wrote:A coworker has been bringing her dog into the office! No one asked whether it was okay with everyone else who works there. This isn’t a service dog.

How do you know, with certainty, that it's not a service animal? Does it have a little sign that says "100% pure pet. Not a service animal"? Because unless it does, you may be very wrong about the dog's purpose.

Service dogs should have some sort of ID, a badge, special vest, or special dog collar that's official and that only service dogs can wear. That way they are easy to spot and identify. The same way your car has to have a disabled parking permit on display for you to park in a disabled parking spot could be done for animals also.

No official ID to show that it's a service dog, then no entry to restaurants, bars etc.

also, real service dogs, because of their training, are well behaved in public.

Everyone with a dog should be required to get a dog that has undergone training like service dogs. Please, for society's sake.

That would honestly be amazing. It would also magically cure my kid of her fear of dogs overnight, I suspect. She is super skittish around dogs on sidewalks and at the park, but then her class did a field trip to the police station and she met a police dog and happily gave him pets (with permission from his trainer) and interacted with him. She could just tell he was not a threat to her in any way.

Very different from the idiots who let their dogs off leash at our local park (right in front of numerous signs stating "No dogs off leash" and "No dogs on playground") and then when the dog bounds right up to my kid while she's playing and she screams and runs away, they get all offended and will sit there explaining "she's just the sweetest dog, she'd never hurt anyone!" Actually she's an untrained animal that you don't even bother to keep on a leash, and she could easily ruin some child's entire life if accidentally provoked because you've done nothing to prevent that from happening, you f***ing moron.

Are you the one calling people ‘morons’ in the other pet threads? Your dd has much bigger problems than a dog running up to her… if this is so upsetting to you and to her (I can only assume your anxiety is contagious), she’s going to need a lot of help in the world

Nah you are the moron. Many kids are fearful.
-DP

And a parent should not encourage this

Encourage what? Being afraid of off leash, untrained dogs in places they are not supposed to be? Why?

It's very normal for a person who is two feet tall to be wary of an animal the same height who has teeth and claws and dies not appear to be under the control of a human. It's not a phobia, it's a natural impulse towards self preservation.

Sure, its normal to have *some* trepidation, but as a parent, I would want to try to discourage excessive anxiety in my child and teach them how to engage with dogs because they will encounter them throughout their lives, and yes, some will approach them. As opposed to the people on this forum who are 'so upset' about a dog coming up to them, or the ones talking about knifing or shooting 'any animal that approaches me!!' NUTS.

I suspect that the people on here lurking around who get so upset about these relatively minor interactions with dogs are those with aggressive pet breeds themselves. Do you have any dogs? What kind?

My kid's natural and originally mild trepidation around dogs has gotten more severe because there are so many off leash and untrained dogs in our neighborhood. The dogs bound right up, either on no leash or on a very long lead, and their owners make no effort to exercise control over them. It freaks her out and has made her really wary of all dogs because she doesn't know what to expect from them.

One thing I get so tired of hearing from dog owners when they see her fear is "it's okay, my dogs friendly" while doing nothing to get their dog to heel. But if your dog is trained and you encounter a kid who is afraid of them, you could do a lot to help ease those fears by *demonstrating* the dog isn't a threat. I always tell my kid to pay attention to how trained dogs stay close to their owners, and respond to calls to stop, heel, or sit. My kid knows to look for those signs to help her know a dog is "safe." The idiots who are letting their dogs run up to kids they don't even know on the street or at the park and then saying "she's friendly!" and getting mad at a child for having fear are making the situation worse.

worse yet, they allow their dogs to bound up to DC who is very allergic to them! They say the same thing, ‘he’s frienfly!’