Can I sue Callie Oettinger?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What proof do we have she deleted anything?

why does she need to delete anything, fcps signed off and released it to her under a foia

Seriously? Here are two reasons why she needs to delete the information.

First: maintaining copies puts kids at risk. The information can be lost or stolen from Callie or the people she shared it with. This is exactly the sorts of personal information that criminals and nation states sell on the dark web, and Callie has idiotically told the world she’s hosting this data - probably on her home computer, protected only by her WiFi password.

Second: it is absolutely morally wrong to keep all this personal information about kids! Callie keeping a copy of the serves no positive purpose, but it continues to invade the privacy of the kids and the parents. She is prolonging and exacerbating their victimization for her personal obsession.

What is the data that she acutally has? Is the data just a simple list kids in the special education program, or is there more than that?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I guess if the suit is successful and damages are awarded that would be more money available to pay said damages.

I don't think a small local non-profit that advocates for special needs kids has that much money to take from them...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yes I am in as far as if we and banding together to sue Callie! I am way more mad at her. She took what was already a big data spill and then instead of doing the right thing made it worse. I am in! Let’s do this. I already started looking for an attorney to sue her. The more people who work together the more likely her personal agenda putting our kids at risk will be stopped.

Her goal is to stop FCPS from constantly spilling data on kids all the time. Why are you shotting the whistle blower? What data does she actually have? She said she had an attachment from an email. I can't imagine a single email attachment would have that much info in it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If Callie has deleted the information, what are you going to sue her for?

Sharing it.

Because she shared FCPS wrong doing with the FBI?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I guess if the suit is successful and damages are awarded that would be more money available to pay said damages.

I don't think a small local non-profit that advocates for special needs kids has that much money to take from them...

I think people want to sue her personally, not her nonprofit, though I expect she’d much prefer to use the nonprofit as a shield.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If Callie has deleted the information, what are you going to sue her for?

Sharing it.

Because she shared FCPS wrong doing with the FBI?

And the press. And people to redact it for her. And cloud services. Maybe some friends, or her nonprofit’s board? Oh and federal law enforcement?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If Callie has deleted the information, what are you going to sue her for?

Sharing it.

Because she shared FCPS wrong doing with the FBI?

That isn’t all you…I mean she…did and you know it. Stop.

[Anonymous]

Because she gave a thumb drive of the data to the Goldwater Institute.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I guess if the suit is successful and damages are awarded that would be more money available to pay said damages.

I don't think a small local non-profit that advocates for special needs kids has that much money to take from them...

She said suing her would probably bring attention and donations to her nonprofit. This feels like a thinly veiled attempt to dissuade people from suing her. Now we are taking a different approach. Using feel-good words to put a halo over her non-profit. This also feels like an attempt at deflection. You’d have to be some kind of monster to go after a small local non-profit that helps vulnerable kids, right? If she truly cared about protecting vulnerable kids she wouldn’t have kept and shared their private information. And don’t keep coming back here with the “she didn’t break the law” and “she doesn’t owe the kids anything” nonsense. Think about the utter hypocrisy of saying “I don’t owe your kids anything” and simultaneously presenting yourself as a warrior for our special needs kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What proof do we have she deleted anything?

why does she need to delete anything, fcps signed off and released it to her under a foia

Seriously? Here are two reasons why she needs to delete the information.

First: maintaining copies puts kids at risk. The information can be lost or stolen from Callie or the people she shared it with. This is exactly the sorts of personal information that criminals and nation states sell on the dark web, and Callie has idiotically told the world she’s hosting this data - probably on her home computer, protected only by her WiFi password.

Second: it is absolutely morally wrong to keep all this personal information about kids! Callie keeping a copy of the serves no positive purpose, but it continues to invade the privacy of the kids and the parents. She is prolonging and exacerbating their victimization for her personal obsession.

What is the data that she acutally has? Is the data just a simple list kids in the special education program, or is there more than that?

That’s my understanding also, that it was just a listing of kids in special education.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What proof do we have she deleted anything?

why does she need to delete anything, fcps signed off and released it to her under a foia

Seriously? Here are two reasons why she needs to delete the information.

First: maintaining copies puts kids at risk. The information can be lost or stolen from Callie or the people she shared it with. This is exactly the sorts of personal information that criminals and nation states sell on the dark web, and Callie has idiotically told the world she’s hosting this data - probably on her home computer, protected only by her WiFi password.

Second: it is absolutely morally wrong to keep all this personal information about kids! Callie keeping a copy of the serves no positive purpose, but it continues to invade the privacy of the kids and the parents. She is prolonging and exacerbating their victimization for her personal obsession.

What is the data that she acutally has? Is the data just a simple list kids in the special education program, or is there more than that?

That’s my understanding also, that it was just a listing of kids in special education.

Even if that were true, which it isn’t, that does not make it okay. Mental health information was also included. There was a spreadsheet with names, gender, age, mental health issues, and mental health interventions.

[Anonymous]

The spreadsheet showed columns labeled "Suicidal Thoughts", "Suicidal Actions", "Self-harm", "Anxious behaviors/thoughts", and so on.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What proof do we have she deleted anything?

why does she need to delete anything, fcps signed off and released it to her under a foia

Because she’s was not authorized to receive the data. The parents would have needed to authorize the release to her. As soon as she realized she had it she should have stopped “examining” it and turned it all back over.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You can sue the 501(c)(3) nonprofit called Special Education Action, lead by Callie Oettinger, which advocates for families that have been denied special education services, but really, why go after the nonprofit that's trying to help and advocate for families, and bring to light the misdeeds for FCPS, to encourage FCPS to do better. It's like suing the NAACP, or ACLU when the federal government makes a mistake. The real issue is with FCPS's terrible track record of mishandling information.

Also, here's Callie's response, which gives a lot more details then what FCPS is misleading you about.
https://specialeducationaction.com/pro-tip-dont-believe-everything-fairfax-county-public-school-tells-you/

Ah, she copied 35,000 records "under the impression" they were her previous records requests. If someone sues they will find out during discovery what actually happened.

Why did she copy anything, fcps should be the one that copies and gives her the data. FCPS is at fault

[Anonymous]

This is what FCPS gave her access to:

33,000+ students: Nine spreadsheets listing all students divisionwide with IEPs or 504 Plans. Five list over 26,000 students and four list over 33,000 students.
10,000+ students: December 1 count spreadsheet
1,593 students: Academic advising spreadsheet for 9th and 10th grade students by PE classes and 11th grade students by History class
1,500+ students: 7,468 teacher recommendations and notes spreadsheet
1,400+ students: PSAT and PSAT NMSQT scores
1,000+ students: FCPSMed caseload, related services
1,000+ students: mental health tracking data, to include marking students with suicidal ideation, drug addiction, domestic violence at home, and so on.
1,000+ students: spreadsheet listing students and their intent to attend.
300+ students: spreadsheet of course requests for students, listing their primary disability and placement
200+ students: list of students with IEPs due.
150+ students: three spreadsheets of testing accommodations for sped students
150+ students: Grade 4-6 PE gradebook
100+ students: spreadsheet of sped and esol 1-6b students taking an SOL
100+ students: Three quarters of grades for sped students, pulled according to the sped teacher to whom they’re assigned.
100+ students: multiple spreadsheets listing legal matters
90 students: 2019 End of Year goal data
50+ students: Math eCart data
1: One FCPS state complaint response for a student
1: One heartbreaking email from a father, telling a school principal about his child being sexually assaulted
Also included in my kids' educational records:

Invoices
Budgets
Closed meeting minutes
Emails (toxic and otherwise)
Proof that some "leaders" have based special education-related decisions on how connected a parent is, rather than what's appropriate for the student (and what happens to be in line with federal regulations)