Prince Harry’s book

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Its company politics, their are other employers.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, he is privileged financially, etc. But being coldly told your mother is dead, left alone in the dark you fear to process it, and being forced to parade behind her coffin on display like a prize poodle walking a show circuit?

There are millions of financially underprivileged families where no child would ever suffer like that.

Many, many children “suffer like that”, unfortunately.

Could you name one other child that had been forced to parade behind his dead mother’s coffin on live tv? Of the millions you claim exist?

The children I’m thinking about aren’t ‘important’ enough to have been on TV at all, silly! But mu DH was an orphan by 11 so I do think that often people can move on.

DP. I think you are underestimating the impact of going through that under intense public/media scrutiny that follows for years afterward.

Oh please.

How about the impact of going through that and getting no support at all, like everyone else???

Congratulations, your husband wins the suffering Olympics.

Dp.

Do you not realize how badly out of touch it is for him to complain?

Not the PP. As someone who is mostly anti-Royal and read the book expecting a hate read (which I did not get), I didn’t think he was complaining at all. He was factual. The fact is that his life as a child was horrific after his mother died. That is just the truth. I didn’t come away from that book thinking he was whiny. I came away from the book — which I expected to gleefully hate — really saddened.

It’s not out of touch for Harry to write about a series of horrifying events he experienced as a child. I have no idea where the crazy haters are making all this stuff up from. I think they are either crazy or they didn’t read the book.

+1. I didn’t read the 46 pages of posts before this one, but as a new poster to this thread who just finished Spare, I was really horrified by the way Camila and his dad sold out private details of his life in exchange for better coverage and themselves. (especially Camilla who is back on my ***t list after this book). Good for him for calling out vile behavior. That’s not what parents are supposed to do.

Diana didn't?

Diana didnt what? The post talks about Camilla and Charles selling out Harry.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, he is privileged financially, etc. But being coldly told your mother is dead, left alone in the dark you fear to process it, and being forced to parade behind her coffin on display like a prize poodle walking a show circuit?

There are millions of financially underprivileged families where no child would ever suffer like that.

Many, many children “suffer like that”, unfortunately.

Could you name one other child that had been forced to parade behind his dead mother’s coffin on live tv? Of the millions you claim exist?

The children I’m thinking about aren’t ‘important’ enough to have been on TV at all, silly! But mu DH was an orphan by 11 so I do think that often people can move on.

DP. I think you are underestimating the impact of going through that under intense public/media scrutiny that follows for years afterward.

Oh please.

How about the impact of going through that and getting no support at all, like everyone else???

Congratulations, your husband wins the suffering Olympics.

Dp.

Do you not realize how badly out of touch it is for him to complain?

Not the PP. As someone who is mostly anti-Royal and read the book expecting a hate read (which I did not get), I didn’t think he was complaining at all. He was factual. The fact is that his life as a child was horrific after his mother died. That is just the truth. I didn’t come away from that book thinking he was whiny. I came away from the book — which I expected to gleefully hate — really saddened.

It’s not out of touch for Harry to write about a series of horrifying events he experienced as a child. I have no idea where the crazy haters are making all this stuff up from. I think they are either crazy or they didn’t read the book.

He actually mostly complained about the press, which was very legit. He did not complain about royal duties, which I found surprising. I would think going to endless nursing home openings and ribbon cuttings would be tedious. He seems to be sorry that he can't do that stuff now.

Harry might have memories of doing visits with Diana — and how well they were received. I think he did —and probably does — appreciate that aspect of the job as being something more than perfunctory. I think, too, that with Sentebale and Invictus, he found ways to move beyond the performative aspects of the job to provide meaningful resources and targeted services to people who clearly benefit from them. If Harry sees his purpose as “service” he might include quite a lot — from his military service to ribbon cuttings under that umbrella.

Harry discussed multiple times in the book about how much work/service gave him purpose. My sense is that a big part of why he was so opposed to a complete break from the royal family (in addition to the fact that it is his family), was because he felt he could do a lot of valuable work to support important causes with that platform.

Which was delusional on his part, but he doesn't see that.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, he is privileged financially, etc. But being coldly told your mother is dead, left alone in the dark you fear to process it, and being forced to parade behind her coffin on display like a prize poodle walking a show circuit?

There are millions of financially underprivileged families where no child would ever suffer like that.

Many, many children “suffer like that”, unfortunately.

Could you name one other child that had been forced to parade behind his dead mother’s coffin on live tv? Of the millions you claim exist?

The children I’m thinking about aren’t ‘important’ enough to have been on TV at all, silly! But mu DH was an orphan by 11 so I do think that often people can move on.

DP. I think you are underestimating the impact of going through that under intense public/media scrutiny that follows for years afterward.

Oh please.

How about the impact of going through that and getting no support at all, like everyone else???

Congratulations, your husband wins the suffering Olympics.

Dp.

Do you not realize how badly out of touch it is for him to complain?

Not the PP. As someone who is mostly anti-Royal and read the book expecting a hate read (which I did not get), I didn’t think he was complaining at all. He was factual. The fact is that his life as a child was horrific after his mother died. That is just the truth. I didn’t come away from that book thinking he was whiny. I came away from the book — which I expected to gleefully hate — really saddened.

It’s not out of touch for Harry to write about a series of horrifying events he experienced as a child. I have no idea where the crazy haters are making all this stuff up from. I think they are either crazy or they didn’t read the book.

He actually mostly complained about the press, which was very legit. He did not complain about royal duties, which I found surprising. I would think going to endless nursing home openings and ribbon cuttings would be tedious. He seems to be sorry that he can't do that stuff now.

Harry might have memories of doing visits with Diana — and how well they were received. I think he did —and probably does — appreciate that aspect of the job as being something more than perfunctory. I think, too, that with Sentebale and Invictus, he found ways to move beyond the performative aspects of the job to provide meaningful resources and targeted services to people who clearly benefit from them. If Harry sees his purpose as “service” he might include quite a lot — from his military service to ribbon cuttings under that umbrella.

Harry discussed multiple times in the book about how much work/service gave him purpose. My sense is that a big part of why he was so opposed to a complete break from the royal family (in addition to the fact that it is his family), was because he felt he could do a lot of valuable work to support important causes with that platform.

Which was delusional on his part, but he doesn't see that.

Why? I found the story of how Harry started working with disabled vets and the founding of Invictus to be an inspiring read. My opinion of him went up after that.

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Royals and celebrities do what PR guys and consultants suggest as beneficial for their image and account.

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Just like every high school student starts a charity, club or small business their family, friends or college counselor suggests to make their resume stand apart for elite colleges.

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And they hire people to run these charities or businesses. You really believe Jessica Simpson built a business empire by herself?

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Anonymous wrote:And they hire people to run these charities or businesses. You really believe Jessica Simpson built a business empire by herself?

Harry is very open about bringing in those with more experience to support his efforts. For instance, he doesn’t claim he organized the first Invictus Games single-handedly, he discusses at length bringing in Keith Mills (who was part of the organizing committee for the 2012 Olympics) because Harry had no idea how to actually organize an event like that.

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Anonymous wrote:And they hire people to run these charities or businesses. You really believe Jessica Simpson built a business empire by herself?

Harry is very open about bringing in those with more experience to support his efforts. For instance, he doesn’t claim he organized the first Invictus Games single-handedly, he discusses at length bringing in Keith Mills (who was part of the organizing committee for the 2012 Olympics) because Harry had no idea how to actually organize an event like that.

+1.he never claims to be a managerial genius. He just talks about why the cause meant something to me and how his ideas took off with his charisma and with the help of others.

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Based on the length of this thread, his book will do well and he will make $$$

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Anonymous wrote:Based on the length of this thread, his book will do well and he will make $$$

He already has. It’s one of the best selling hard covers in recent memory.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, he is privileged financially, etc. But being coldly told your mother is dead, left alone in the dark you fear to process it, and being forced to parade behind her coffin on display like a prize poodle walking a show circuit?

There are millions of financially underprivileged families where no child would ever suffer like that.

Many, many children “suffer like that”, unfortunately.

Could you name one other child that had been forced to parade behind his dead mother’s coffin on live tv? Of the millions you claim exist?

The children I’m thinking about aren’t ‘important’ enough to have been on TV at all, silly! But mu DH was an orphan by 11 so I do think that often people can move on.

DP. I think you are underestimating the impact of going through that under intense public/media scrutiny that follows for years afterward.

Oh please.

How about the impact of going through that and getting no support at all, like everyone else???

Congratulations, your husband wins the suffering Olympics.

Dp.

Do you not realize how badly out of touch it is for him to complain?

Not the PP. As someone who is mostly anti-Royal and read the book expecting a hate read (which I did not get), I didn’t think he was complaining at all. He was factual. The fact is that his life as a child was horrific after his mother died. That is just the truth. I didn’t come away from that book thinking he was whiny. I came away from the book — which I expected to gleefully hate — really saddened.

It’s not out of touch for Harry to write about a series of horrifying events he experienced as a child. I have no idea where the crazy haters are making all this stuff up from. I think they are either crazy or they didn’t read the book.

He actually mostly complained about the press, which was very legit. He did not complain about royal duties, which I found surprising. I would think going to endless nursing home openings and ribbon cuttings would be tedious. He seems to be sorry that he can't do that stuff now.

Harry might have memories of doing visits with Diana — and how well they were received. I think he did —and probably does — appreciate that aspect of the job as being something more than perfunctory. I think, too, that with Sentebale and Invictus, he found ways to move beyond the performative aspects of the job to provide meaningful resources and targeted services to people who clearly benefit from them. If Harry sees his purpose as “service” he might include quite a lot — from his military service to ribbon cuttings under that umbrella.

Harry discussed multiple times in the book about how much work/service gave him purpose. My sense is that a big part of why he was so opposed to a complete break from the royal family (in addition to the fact that it is his family), was because he felt he could do a lot of valuable work to support important causes with that platform.

Which was delusional on his part, but he doesn't see that.

Why? I found the story of how Harry started working with disabled vets and the founding of Invictus to be an inspiring read. My opinion of him went up after that.

DP I agree. I feel similarly about his work with Sentebale. He has done a lot, in practical and in inspiring ways, just with those two programs alone. I hadn’t realized how young Harry was when he co-developed that program.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, he is privileged financially, etc. But being coldly told your mother is dead, left alone in the dark you fear to process it, and being forced to parade behind her coffin on display like a prize poodle walking a show circuit?

There are millions of financially underprivileged families where no child would ever suffer like that.

Many, many children “suffer like that”, unfortunately.

Could you name one other child that had been forced to parade behind his dead mother’s coffin on live tv? Of the millions you claim exist?

The children I’m thinking about aren’t ‘important’ enough to have been on TV at all, silly! But mu DH was an orphan by 11 so I do think that often people can move on.

DP. I think you are underestimating the impact of going through that under intense public/media scrutiny that follows for years afterward.

Oh please.

How about the impact of going through that and getting no support at all, like everyone else???

Congratulations, your husband wins the suffering Olympics.

Dp.

Do you not realize how badly out of touch it is for him to complain?

Not the PP. As someone who is mostly anti-Royal and read the book expecting a hate read (which I did not get), I didn’t think he was complaining at all. He was factual. The fact is that his life as a child was horrific after his mother died. That is just the truth. I didn’t come away from that book thinking he was whiny. I came away from the book — which I expected to gleefully hate — really saddened.

It’s not out of touch for Harry to write about a series of horrifying events he experienced as a child. I have no idea where the crazy haters are making all this stuff up from. I think they are either crazy or they didn’t read the book.

He actually mostly complained about the press, which was very legit. He did not complain about royal duties, which I found surprising. I would think going to endless nursing home openings and ribbon cuttings would be tedious. He seems to be sorry that he can't do that stuff now.

Harry might have memories of doing visits with Diana — and how well they were received. I think he did —and probably does — appreciate that aspect of the job as being something more than perfunctory. I think, too, that with Sentebale and Invictus, he found ways to move beyond the performative aspects of the job to provide meaningful resources and targeted services to people who clearly benefit from them. If Harry sees his purpose as “service” he might include quite a lot — from his military service to ribbon cuttings under that umbrella.

Harry discussed multiple times in the book about how much work/service gave him purpose. My sense is that a big part of why he was so opposed to a complete break from the royal family (in addition to the fact that it is his family), was because he felt he could do a lot of valuable work to support important causes with that platform.

Which was delusional on his part, but he doesn't see that.

Why? I found the story of how Harry started working with disabled vets and the founding of Invictus to be an inspiring read. My opinion of him went up after that.

DP I agree. I feel similarly about his work with Sentebale. He has done a lot, in practical and in inspiring ways, just with those two programs alone. I hadn’t realized how young Harry was when he co-developed that program.

Indeed. It sounds too good to be true.

[Anonymous]

Harry and Meghan now have a golden life. Better than 99.999 of the world. Better than their own talents and gifts would have brought them. They live in a mansion in a highly desirable community. They have rich celebrity friends. They have enough privacy and security that no one is even sure what their daughter looks like, yet they can draw a crowd for whatever cause they deem worthy of their attention.

All because of the lucky accident of Harry's birth into the royal family. Now that he has sold out his family to pay for this golden life, he needs to leave them alone. Quit revealing private nicknames and moments. Quit nursing grievances. Quit doing things that will just rile up the press and social media that you claim to hate. You won.