Another gunman, another elementary school

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Anonymous wrote:I'm all for stricter gun laws, but that's only part of the solution -- and frankly -- the easier part of the solution. For starters, we need to step up and clamp down on the rampant cyberbullying that takes place -- cyberbullying that causes too many kids to kill themselves or to kill innocent people. We also need to boycott Hollywood and its glorification of violence -- a glorification that enriches media (i.e. film, TV and music) executives while putting the idea into young people's minds that it's okay or cool to go on shooting rampages. Finally, we need to find ways that support and strengthen families. No, I'm not talking about "traditional family values" or anything like that. I'm talking about an environment in which young people have healthy adult parents or mentors who instill them a sense of self-worth or confidence -- a sense of purpose in life.

No it's not "easier" because people keep voting Republicans into office who won't pass common sense gun laws. These Republican members of Congress are indebted to the NRA.
And, in case it hasn't dawned on you, Republicans are also not willing to pay for mental heath care, community efforts to end cyber-bullying, or social programs to help struggling parents.

We can't do what you suggest until Republicans are voted out.

The PP's valid point is that politics alone will not solve the problem of gun violence.

Well, since "Thoughts and Prayers" haven't worked at all for the last 20 years, maybe Republicans should try to pass a bill to limit sales of assault rilfes.

Extending sympathy and prayers to grieving families of dead children is not intended to stop school shootings. It's not supposed "to work" to stop the shootings. And you know it.

Extending sympathy is a common thing to do, and prayers is what religious people do in troubling times.

BS. Don't be so naive. Politicians say "thoughts and prayers" because it's enough for their pathetic constituents, who are all to content to accept those toothless words over effective policies to end gun violence.

Condolences and prayers are NOT a policy. Stop conflating - stop with the pretending.

No one is saying they're the same. I'm saying that Republican voters are satisfied with thoughts and prayers from their politicians, and perfectly content to have Republican politicians do absolutely NOTHING policy-wise to prevent hundreds of kids being slaughtered by assault rifles legally purchased. Perfectly content, otherwise, why would they continue to vote for them?

That is false.

Republicans believe in added security measures at schools, but democrats oppose added security. Republicans often also advocate having a nuclear family, attending church or other place of worship, more consequences for felonious juvenile crimes, and a sense of personal responsibility for one's actions.

Others, by contrast, often advocate "dismantling the nuclear family," atheism, lesser punishments for felonious behavior, and blaming others or society as an external locus of control for their bad acts.

This is utter and complete BS. This is more GOP propaganda. Those GOP politicians don't care about your kids, your family, your job, crime, God, or anything but their own power. And their F-ing guns. But you lap their BS stories up like the rube you are.

A belief or value isn't "propoganda." My beliefs and values are not propaganda. Get a dictionary.

Perhaps it’s time to reevaluate your “values” if safeguarding children isn’t at the top? And maybe less time watching Fox News and clutching pearls about CRT and BLM boogeymen.

I believe in crime deterrents, security measures, and police. To safeguard kids. How many times do I have to repeat. Can you not read?

READ!

P.s. - I don't watch Fox News, OANN, or Newsmax. Nice try. I just have common freaking sense!

Cool. Those things are not keeping childen safe in a society where people can get their hands on AR-15s.

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Anonymous wrote:How much is that school getting sued?

My daughters elementary school had the following controls.

One way in. Receptionist in bullet proof area with hardwired phone to call 911. She buzz you in. Then you enter bullet proof man trap. She trap you. They also had buzzer to lock all bullet proof classroom doors. Had silent alarms police. Regular active shooter drills. FBI and or local law enforcement consultations. And a cop in parking lot while school open.

While school on camera. We even could lock windows remotely.

Sure more republicans fantasy. Hardwired phone to call 911 you mean a landline bullet proof trap yo7 were more believable when you said the election was stolen. OMG this is the future of republicans propaganda.

There was a shooter targeting a school last month in DC. He managed to knock out the internet and telecommunications systems with a hail of bullets.

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Anonymous wrote:Where did he get the money to purchase these weapons? They are not cheap. That AR-15 was almost $2K.

If he used a newly opened credit card, that should be a major red flag. In fact, there should probably be a strict restriction on using new lines of credit to purchase firearms and ammo. Probably a very high indication of using the weapon for suicide or a crime.

The gun shop should have been more vigilant. They have the victims' blood on their hand because they wanted a quick buck. Same goes for the NRA and their Republican enablers.

Gun shop ethics. Good one!

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Anonymous wrote:Where did he get the money to purchase these weapons? They are not cheap. That AR-15 was almost $2K.

If he used a newly opened credit card, that should be a major red flag. In fact, there should probably be a strict restriction on using new lines of credit to purchase firearms and ammo. Probably a very high indication of using the weapon for suicide or a crime.

The gun shop should have been more vigilant. They have the victims' blood on their hand because they wanted a quick buck. Same goes for the NRA and their Republican enablers.

You’re saying it is the business owners responsibility to do more than is required by law to protect the potential future victims of their customers?

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We have reached the post-apocalyptic tipping point where there is a need for the specialty of designing hardened school campuses to make it more difficult to commit mass murder.


https://slate.com/business/2019/08/school-shootings-design-architecture-sandy-hook-columbine.html

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/education/2020/01/07/michigan-school-designed-foil-shooters-it-slows-them-down/4386832002/

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Anonymous wrote:America’s hard on for the second amendment is proof the right only cares about kids if they’re inside someone’s uterus. F anyone who votes for politicians who oppose gun reform. You have blood on your hands too.

There is nothing “pro life” about caring more for the second amendment than innocent children.

+1000

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Anonymous wrote:Where did he get the money to purchase these weapons? They are not cheap. That AR-15 was almost $2K.

If he used a newly opened credit card, that should be a major red flag. In fact, there should probably be a strict restriction on using new lines of credit to purchase firearms and ammo. Probably a very high indication of using the weapon for suicide or a crime.

The gun shop should have been more vigilant. They have the victims' blood on their hand because they wanted a quick buck. Same goes for the NRA and their Republican enablers.

You’re saying it is the business owners responsibility to do more than is required by law to protect the potential future victims of their customers?

Business owners can refuse to serve anyone for a non-discriminatory reason

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Anonymous wrote:Where did he get the money to purchase these weapons? They are not cheap. That AR-15 was almost $2K.

If he used a newly opened credit card, that should be a major red flag. In fact, there should probably be a strict restriction on using new lines of credit to purchase firearms and ammo. Probably a very high indication of using the weapon for suicide or a crime.

The gun shop should have been more vigilant. They have the victims' blood on their hand because they wanted a quick buck. Same goes for the NRA and their Republican enablers.

Gun shop ethics. Good one!

as far as investigators reported this morning, there were no flags on this shooter. He seems to have made an easy simple & legal purchase of a weapon of mass murder.

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Anonymous wrote:What a sad sad day when real children's death does not bother many millions while they are busy fighting for unborn fetus...

Life does not matter to GOP as long as they can control women. Women's life and children's life is negotiable as long as they get to keep their power.

They need to have them born so they can be target practice for the folks practicing their 2nd Amendment rights.

Sad but true.

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Anonymous wrote:Where did he get the money to purchase these weapons? They are not cheap. That AR-15 was almost $2K.

If he used a newly opened credit card, that should be a major red flag. In fact, there should probably be a strict restriction on using new lines of credit to purchase firearms and ammo. Probably a very high indication of using the weapon for suicide or a crime.

The gun shop should have been more vigilant. They have the victims' blood on their hand because they wanted a quick buck. Same goes for the NRA and their Republican enablers.

Gun shop ethics. Good one!

as far as investigators reported this morning, there were no flags on this shooter. He seems to have made an easy simple & legal purchase of a weapon of mass murder.

God bless Amurika!

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Anonymous wrote:Where did he get the money to purchase these weapons? They are not cheap. That AR-15 was almost $2K.

If he used a newly opened credit card, that should be a major red flag. In fact, there should probably be a strict restriction on using new lines of credit to purchase firearms and ammo. Probably a very high indication of using the weapon for suicide or a crime.

The gun shop should have been more vigilant. They have the victims' blood on their hand because they wanted a quick buck. Same goes for the NRA and their Republican enablers.

You’re saying it is the business owners responsibility to do more than is required by law to protect the potential future victims of their customers?

Sure how the families are holding them accountable with civil suits.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm all for stricter gun laws, but that's only part of the solution -- and frankly -- the easier part of the solution. For starters, we need to step up and clamp down on the rampant cyberbullying that takes place -- cyberbullying that causes too many kids to kill themselves or to kill innocent people. We also need to boycott Hollywood and its glorification of violence -- a glorification that enriches media (i.e. film, TV and music) executives while putting the idea into young people's minds that it's okay or cool to go on shooting rampages. Finally, we need to find ways that support and strengthen families. No, I'm not talking about "traditional family values" or anything like that. I'm talking about an environment in which young people have healthy adult parents or mentors who instill them a sense of self-worth or confidence -- a sense of purpose in life.

No it's not "easier" because people keep voting Republicans into office who won't pass common sense gun laws. These Republican members of Congress are indebted to the NRA.
And, in case it hasn't dawned on you, Republicans are also not willing to pay for mental heath care, community efforts to end cyber-bullying, or social programs to help struggling parents.

We can't do what you suggest until Republicans are voted out.

The PP's valid point is that politics alone will not solve the problem of gun violence.

Well, since "Thoughts and Prayers" haven't worked at all for the last 20 years, maybe Republicans should try to pass a bill to limit sales of assault rilfes.

Extending sympathy and prayers to grieving families of dead children is not intended to stop school shootings. It's not supposed "to work" to stop the shootings. And you know it.

Extending sympathy is a common thing to do, and prayers is what religious people do in troubling times.

BS. Don't be so naive. Politicians say "thoughts and prayers" because it's enough for their pathetic constituents, who are all to content to accept those toothless words over effective policies to end gun violence.

Condolences and prayers are NOT a policy. Stop conflating - stop with the pretending.

No one is saying they're the same. I'm saying that Republican voters are satisfied with thoughts and prayers from their politicians, and perfectly content to have Republican politicians do absolutely NOTHING policy-wise to prevent hundreds of kids being slaughtered by assault rifles legally purchased. Perfectly content, otherwise, why would they continue to vote for them?

That is false.

Republicans believe in added security measures at schools, but democrats oppose added security. Republicans often also advocate having a nuclear family, attending church or other place of worship, more consequences for felonious juvenile crimes, and a sense of personal responsibility for one's actions.

Others, by contrast, often advocate "dismantling the nuclear family," atheism, lesser punishments for felonious behavior, and blaming others or society as an external locus of control for their bad acts.

This is utter and complete BS. This is more GOP propaganda. Those GOP politicians don't care about your kids, your family, your job, crime, God, or anything but their own power. And their F-ing guns. But you lap their BS stories up like the rube you are.

A belief or value isn't "propoganda." My beliefs and values are not propaganda. Get a dictionary.

Perhaps it’s time to reevaluate your “values” if safeguarding children isn’t at the top? And maybe less time watching Fox News and clutching pearls about CRT and BLM boogeymen.

I believe in crime deterrents, security measures, and police. To safeguard kids. How many times do I have to repeat. Can you not read?

READ!

P.s. - I don't watch Fox News, OANN, or Newsmax. Nice try. I just have common freaking sense!

Do you believe in gun control? Please go and read the profiles of these innocent, sweet children and the postings of their relatives, so gracious during a time of unimaginable loss, and their teachers who died trying to protect their students. Then explain why you don’t believe in gun control.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Where did he get the money to purchase these weapons? They are not cheap. That AR-15 was almost $2K.

If he used a newly opened credit card, that should be a major red flag. In fact, there should probably be a strict restriction on using new lines of credit to purchase firearms and ammo. Probably a very high indication of using the weapon for suicide or a crime.

The gun shop should have been more vigilant. They have the victims' blood on their hand because they wanted a quick buck. Same goes for the NRA and their Republican enablers.

Gun shop ethics. Good one!

1/2 the guns in are bought without a background check.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm all for stricter gun laws, but that's only part of the solution -- and frankly -- the easier part of the solution. For starters, we need to step up and clamp down on the rampant cyberbullying that takes place -- cyberbullying that causes too many kids to kill themselves or to kill innocent people. We also need to boycott Hollywood and its glorification of violence -- a glorification that enriches media (i.e. film, TV and music) executives while putting the idea into young people's minds that it's okay or cool to go on shooting rampages. Finally, we need to find ways that support and strengthen families. No, I'm not talking about "traditional family values" or anything like that. I'm talking about an environment in which young people have healthy adult parents or mentors who instill them a sense of self-worth or confidence -- a sense of purpose in life.

No it's not "easier" because people keep voting Republicans into office who won't pass common sense gun laws. These Republican members of Congress are indebted to the NRA.
And, in case it hasn't dawned on you, Republicans are also not willing to pay for mental heath care, community efforts to end cyber-bullying, or social programs to help struggling parents.

We can't do what you suggest until Republicans are voted out.

The PP's valid point is that politics alone will not solve the problem of gun violence.

Well, since "Thoughts and Prayers" haven't worked at all for the last 20 years, maybe Republicans should try to pass a bill to limit sales of assault rilfes.

Extending sympathy and prayers to grieving families of dead children is not intended to stop school shootings. It's not supposed "to work" to stop the shootings. And you know it.

Extending sympathy is a common thing to do, and prayers is what religious people do in troubling times.

BS. Don't be so naive. Politicians say "thoughts and prayers" because it's enough for their pathetic constituents, who are all to content to accept those toothless words over effective policies to end gun violence.

Condolences and prayers are NOT a policy. Stop conflating - stop with the pretending.

No one is saying they're the same. I'm saying that Republican voters are satisfied with thoughts and prayers from their politicians, and perfectly content to have Republican politicians do absolutely NOTHING policy-wise to prevent hundreds of kids being slaughtered by assault rifles legally purchased. Perfectly content, otherwise, why would they continue to vote for them?

That is false.

Republicans believe in added security measures at schools, but democrats oppose added security. Republicans often also advocate having a nuclear family, attending church or other place of worship, more consequences for felonious juvenile crimes, and a sense of personal responsibility for one's actions.

Others, by contrast, often advocate "dismantling the nuclear family," atheism, lesser punishments for felonious behavior, and blaming others or society as an external locus of control for their bad acts.

This is utter and complete BS. This is more GOP propaganda. Those GOP politicians don't care about your kids, your family, your job, crime, God, or anything but their own power. And their F-ing guns. But you lap their BS stories up like the rube you are.

A belief or value isn't "propoganda." My beliefs and values are not propaganda. Get a dictionary.

Perhaps it’s time to reevaluate your “values” if safeguarding children isn’t at the top? And maybe less time watching Fox News and clutching pearls about CRT and BLM boogeymen.

I believe in crime deterrents, security measures, and police. To safeguard kids. How many times do I have to repeat. Can you not read?

READ!

P.s. - I don't watch Fox News, OANN, or Newsmax. Nice try. I just have common freaking sense!

Please you might as well have lined the children up and shot them. Your values are the same as the shooter.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Where did he get the money to purchase these weapons? They are not cheap. That AR-15 was almost $2K.

If he used a newly opened credit card, that should be a major red flag. In fact, there should probably be a strict restriction on using new lines of credit to purchase firearms and ammo. Probably a very high indication of using the weapon for suicide or a crime.

The gun shop should have been more vigilant. They have the victims' blood on their hand because they wanted a quick buck. Same goes for the NRA and their Republican enablers.

Gun shop ethics. Good one!

as far as investigators reported this morning, there were no flags on this shooter. He seems to have made an easy simple & legal purchase of a weapon of mass murder.

He had just turned 18. Not much a chance to accumulate any red flags.