LCPS sexual assualt - who is held accountable?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:These incompetent supes job hop around the country. He'll exit with a six-figure parachute and keep his fringe (health insurance) until the end of the fiscal year next summer.

Look at the credentials of the average supe. They almost all have a bachelor's from the degree mill and then a collection of fake master's and EdDs from online degree mills, which taxpayers paid for. They are complete idiots.

I would pose that those who hire them are the idiots. Making bank on junk degrees is genius.

But who really wants these jobs? No thanks.

the median American makes 30k, and these superintendents are pulling in 300k. Hmmm

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Has Ziegler resigned yet? He values his integrity and morality (or lack thereof) at 300K.

Now that it has been confirmed and proved he lied it’s worth less than rotting feces. Lawls

He deleted his Twitter account. Indication of resignation coming soon. Unfortunately, not soon enough. He’ll probably wait until after the first week of November where he’s off and can both secure another employment position and still get paid for that week of ‘work’. Scumbag.

I’m confused over why the school principal hasn’t resigned? Or did he and I missed it? I’m from Arlington so not following closely. But it seems to me that he is the most at fault. The way he handled the situation is abysmal.

Which principal? There were two HSs involved.

The first one. Where the father of the girl got upset and they called the police on him. I’m unclear as to what happened in the second school.

[jsteele]

I have removed several posts from this thread that have claimed that Attorney General Garland called parents "domestic terrorists". First, those posts are off-topic for this thread. More importantly, Garland did no such thing. As is not uncommon with zombie myths that the right-wing accepts as truth, this myth will probably never die. But, here is Garland's memo:

https://www.justice.gov/ag/page/file/1438986/download

As you will see if you bother to read it, it doesn't mention "terrorism" or "terrorists" at all. It explicitly mentions that spirited debate is protected under the Constitution, but stresses that threats of violence and efforts to intimidate are illegal.

[Anonymous]

Should the FBI getting involved in school board threats/assaults be a new thread? It’s not really relevant here.

[jsteele]

Anonymous wrote:Should the FBI getting involved in school board threats/assaults be a new thread? It’s not really relevant here.

Yes, it should be a new thread. But, not in the schools forums.

[jsteele]

[jsteele]

I have mixed feelings about posting this and if anyone feels this is inappropriate, use the "report" button to tell me I'm being an a-hole, but this is what the Washington Post is reporting regarding the court proceeding today:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/in-case-at-center-of-political-firestorm-judge-finds-teen-committed-sexual-assault-in-virginia-school-bathroom/2021/10/25/42c037da-35cc-11ec-8be3-e14aaacfa8ac_story.html

During the hearing, the 15-year-old victim in the first case testified she had consensual sexual encounters with the defendant on two occasions in a girls’ bathroom at Stone Bridge High School in Ashburn. On May 28, she said, the two arranged to meet again and the youth threw her to the floor and forced her to perform sex acts.

I think this is worth posting for two reasons:

1) it shows why the authorities found the case "complicated", and

2) this was obviously not a case of a female-appearing student entering the girls' bathroom to conduct an assault. Rather, it was a pre-arranged meeting and gender doesn't really play a role.

Also, just to be clear, I strongly agree that a consensual encounter can turn non-consensual and result in sexual assault. In such cases, these charges are appropriate.

[Anonymous]

Thread:

[Anonymous]

Great. It’s a good thing when we hold people accountable for their crimes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Has Ziegler resigned yet? He values his integrity and morality (or lack thereof) at 300K.

Now that it has been confirmed and proved he lied it’s worth less than rotting feces. Lawls

He deleted his Twitter account. Indication of resignation coming soon. Unfortunately, not soon enough. He’ll probably wait until after the first week of November where he’s off and can both secure another employment position and still get paid for that week of ‘work’. Scumbag.

I’m confused over why the school principal hasn’t resigned? Or did he and I missed it? I’m from Arlington so not following closely. But it seems to me that he is the most at fault. The way he handled the situation is abysmal.

Which principal? There were two HSs involved.

The first one. Where the father of the girl got upset and they called the police on him. I’m unclear as to what happened in the second school.

Ain’t happening. He did his due diligence. Point your fingers at Ziggy and his “supervisors” sitting on the board who have recently begun to submit resignations and erase all digital history on social media…

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Has Ziegler resigned yet? He values his integrity and morality (or lack thereof) at 300K.

Now that it has been confirmed and proved he lied it’s worth less than rotting feces. Lawls

He deleted his Twitter account. Indication of resignation coming soon. Unfortunately, not soon enough. He’ll probably wait until after the first week of November where he’s off and can both secure another employment position and still get paid for that week of ‘work’. Scumbag.

I’m confused over why the school principal hasn’t resigned? Or did he and I missed it? I’m from Arlington so not following closely. But it seems to me that he is the most at fault. The way he handled the situation is abysmal.

Which principal? There were two HSs involved.

The first one. Where the father of the girl got upset and they called the police on him. I’m unclear as to what happened in the second school.

Ain’t happening. He did his due diligence. Point your fingers at Ziggy and his “supervisors” sitting on the board who have recently begun to submit resignations and erase all digital history on social media…

Anyone in addition to Barts?

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:I have mixed feelings about posting this and if anyone feels this is inappropriate, use the "report" button to tell me I'm being an a-hole, but this is what the Washington Post is reporting regarding the court proceeding today:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/in-case-at-center-of-political-firestorm-judge-finds-teen-committed-sexual-assault-in-virginia-school-bathroom/2021/10/25/42c037da-35cc-11ec-8be3-e14aaacfa8ac_story.html

During the hearing, the 15-year-old victim in the first case testified she had consensual sexual encounters with the defendant on two occasions in a girls’ bathroom at Stone Bridge High School in Ashburn. On May 28, she said, the two arranged to meet again and the youth threw her to the floor and forced her to perform sex acts.

I think this is worth posting for two reasons:

1) it shows why the authorities found the case "complicated", and

2) this was obviously not a case of a female-appearing student entering the girls' bathroom to conduct an assault. Rather, it was a pre-arranged meeting and gender doesn't really play a role.

Also, just to be clear, I strongly agree that a consensual encounter can turn non-consensual and result in sexual assault. In such cases, these charges are appropriate.

You honestly can justify anything with hair-splitting. Been noting a pattern for years.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:I have mixed feelings about posting this and if anyone feels this is inappropriate, use the "report" button to tell me I'm being an a-hole, but this is what the Washington Post is reporting regarding the court proceeding today:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/in-case-at-center-of-political-firestorm-judge-finds-teen-committed-sexual-assault-in-virginia-school-bathroom/2021/10/25/42c037da-35cc-11ec-8be3-e14aaacfa8ac_story.html

During the hearing, the 15-year-old victim in the first case testified she had consensual sexual encounters with the defendant on two occasions in a girls’ bathroom at Stone Bridge High School in Ashburn. On May 28, she said, the two arranged to meet again and the youth threw her to the floor and forced her to perform sex acts.

I think this is worth posting for two reasons:

1) it shows why the authorities found the case "complicated", and

2) this was obviously not a case of a female-appearing student entering the girls' bathroom to conduct an assault. Rather, it was a pre-arranged meeting and gender doesn't really play a role.

Also, just to be clear, I strongly agree that a consensual encounter can turn non-consensual and result in sexual assault. In such cases, these charges are appropriate.

You honestly can justify anything with hair-splitting. Been noting a pattern for years.

Seriously. My god. What a ton of victim shaming diarrhea.

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:I have mixed feelings about posting this and if anyone feels this is inappropriate, use the "report" button to tell me I'm being an a-hole, but this is what the Washington Post is reporting regarding the court proceeding today:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/in-case-at-center-of-political-firestorm-judge-finds-teen-committed-sexual-assault-in-virginia-school-bathroom/2021/10/25/42c037da-35cc-11ec-8be3-e14aaacfa8ac_story.html

During the hearing, the 15-year-old victim in the first case testified she had consensual sexual encounters with the defendant on two occasions in a girls’ bathroom at Stone Bridge High School in Ashburn. On May 28, she said, the two arranged to meet again and the youth threw her to the floor and forced her to perform sex acts.

I think this is worth posting for two reasons:

1) it shows why the authorities found the case "complicated", and

2) this was obviously not a case of a female-appearing student entering the girls' bathroom to conduct an assault. Rather, it was a pre-arranged meeting and gender doesn't really play a role.

Also, just to be clear, I strongly agree that a consensual encounter can turn non-consensual and result in sexual assault. In such cases, these charges are appropriate.

I’ve had sex with my husband for decades. But the night I told him no because I was exhausted due to taking care of my sick mother and he didn’t want to hear no because he was leaving the next day for a couple weeks? He raped me. Doesn’t matter that we were married. Doesn’t matter how many times we’d had sex prior. I said no. He would not take that for an answer. It’s disgusting to think that if my husband works skirts, people would be arguing for pages about it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:I have mixed feelings about posting this and if anyone feels this is inappropriate, use the "report" button to tell me I'm being an a-hole, but this is what the Washington Post is reporting regarding the court proceeding today:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/in-case-at-center-of-political-firestorm-judge-finds-teen-committed-sexual-assault-in-virginia-school-bathroom/2021/10/25/42c037da-35cc-11ec-8be3-e14aaacfa8ac_story.html

During the hearing, the 15-year-old victim in the first case testified she had consensual sexual encounters with the defendant on two occasions in a girls’ bathroom at Stone Bridge High School in Ashburn. On May 28, she said, the two arranged to meet again and the youth threw her to the floor and forced her to perform sex acts.

I think this is worth posting for two reasons:

1) it shows why the authorities found the case "complicated", and

2) this was obviously not a case of a female-appearing student entering the girls' bathroom to conduct an assault. Rather, it was a pre-arranged meeting and gender doesn't really play a role.

Also, just to be clear, I strongly agree that a consensual encounter can turn non-consensual and result in sexual assault. In such cases, these charges are appropriate.

I’ve had sex with my husband for decades. But the night I told him no because I was exhausted due to taking care of my sick mother and he didn’t want to hear no because he was leaving the next day for a couple weeks? He raped me. Doesn’t matter that we were married. Doesn’t matter how many times we’d had sex prior. I said no. He would not take that for an answer. It’s disgusting to think that if my husband works skirts, people would be arguing for pages about it.

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