College ED -- Just the Facts (Results Thread)

Anonymous
Please just list the quick responses so those with Juniors and below can get a sense for next year:

College Applied to:
Result (Accepted, Rejected, Deferred):
High School (Public (which district?)/Private):
SAT, ACT scores:
GPA (Weighted/UW):
Legacy (Y/N):
URM (Y/N):
Aid (Full Pay/Financial Aid):
Who recommended ED here (Senior's Choice/Parent/GC/Recruited Athlete, etc):




Anonymous
Just do this on college confidential. It's much more thorough, broken down by college and better organized. You will have a much better sense of who is being accepted, who is being deferred and who was turned down by revieiwng the 100s of posts there by the actual college students than by reviewing a few isolated mommy reports here.
Anonymous
I'm interested in the local area since this is the applicant pool.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Just do this on college confidential. It's much more thorough, broken down by college and better organized. You will have a much better sense of who is being accepted, who is being deferred and who was turned down by revieiwng the 100s of posts there by the actual college students than by reviewing a few isolated mommy reports here.


And where you can collect data and sell advertising because people come to view your data...
Anonymous
you can find whatever you need and much more detail on college confidential
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I'm interested in the local area since this is the applicant pool.



Yes, this. the variety of locations on college confidential is a confounding factor.
Anonymous
What I did for SCEA and EA was monitor College Confidental and simply watch the results of the "chance mes" for the four particular institutions we had applied to as they came in from all students, including international students. It was very illuminating. Some extraordinary talent was turned down and you couldn't tell why. The posts the students give per institution are long and insightful, and at the end DENIED.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm interested in the local area since this is the applicant pool.



Yes, this. the variety of locations on college confidential is a confounding factor.



Just enter a search "Walt Whitman high school", etc. What is more telling than anything else is the caliber across the board of the candidates being turned down or deferred. It's their GPAs, test scores, ECs and national awards that give you a really good hint what the result may be for your child.
Anonymous
These chance me threads are honestly not useful. The college process is seriously fickle and unpredictable. You could have a perfect SAT and GPA and get denied from every elite school you apply to. You could be white but be at the bottom 25% for testing, yet get in virtually everywhere.

In my experience looking at these posts, high school students have a tendency to severely overrate the quality of their essays and recommendations. You'll mostly see 7-10/10s listed on College Confidential. In the eyes of an admission officer, most will be at the 3-7/10 range. So take subjective remarks about quality with a grain of salt.

Something to note for the elite LACs (Williams, Amherst, Pomona) is that they fill a huge chunk of their early class (some 40-60%) with recruited athletes. While they have higher overall early acceptance rates, it's not really that much higher. To illustrate this, say we have 700 ED applicants at Williams, and 235 were admitted. About 140 of them are recruited athletes- almost all of whom are given verbal commitments that they'll get in. That leaves us with 95 admits among the remaining 560 applicants- a 16.9% acceptance rate. Basically no change from the overall rate.
Anonymous
I found the self-reportings on SCEA and EA to be very helpful. When you see student after student with just extraordinary, detailed application information and then after 40 lines, Denied, Asian Discrimination is real, you get a pretty good sense of what is going on. It was very helpful to DC who was aiming for the very top to see the caliber of student who was rejected outside or deferred SCEA as he was. It was a fairly honest way of assessing exactly where he stood and what he needed to do on RD to get where he wanted to go. I found College Confidential to be incredibly useful on a number of issues and am still grateful that students willingly post their successes and failures for those that come and use the service after them.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:These chance me threads are honestly not useful. The college process is seriously fickle and unpredictable. You could have a perfect SAT and GPA and get denied from every elite school you apply to. You could be white but be at the bottom 25% for testing, yet get in virtually everywhere.

In my experience looking at these posts, high school students have a tendency to severely overrate the quality of their essays and recommendations. You'll mostly see 7-10/10s listed on College Confidential. In the eyes of an admission officer, most will be at the 3-7/10 range. So take subjective remarks about quality with a grain of salt.

Something to note for the elite LACs (Williams, Amherst, Pomona) is that they fill a huge chunk of their early class (some 40-60%) with recruited athletes. While they have higher overall early acceptance rates, it's not really that much higher. To illustrate this, say we have 700 ED applicants at Williams, and 235 were admitted. About 140 of them are recruited athletes- almost all of whom are given verbal commitments that they'll get in. That leaves us with 95 admits among the remaining 560 applicants- a 16.9% acceptance rate. Basically no change from the overall rate.


I don't find the "chance me" threads useful, but I find the results threads--what OP is looking for--very helpful. It would be good to have a more localized version of that portion of CC.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:These chance me threads are honestly not useful. The college process is seriously fickle and unpredictable. You could have a perfect SAT and GPA and get denied from every elite school you apply to. You could be white but be at the bottom 25% for testing, yet get in virtually everywhere.

In my experience looking at these posts, high school students have a tendency to severely overrate the quality of their essays and recommendations. You'll mostly see 7-10/10s listed on College Confidential. In the eyes of an admission officer, most will be at the 3-7/10 range. So take subjective remarks about quality with a grain of salt.

Something to note for the elite LACs (Williams, Amherst, Pomona) is that they fill a huge chunk of their early class (some 40-60%) with recruited athletes. While they have higher overall early acceptance rates, it's not really that much higher. To illustrate this, say we have 700 ED applicants at Williams, and 235 were admitted. About 140 of them are recruited athletes- almost all of whom are given verbal commitments that they'll get in. That leaves us with 95 admits among the remaining 560 applicants- a 16.9% acceptance rate. Basically no change from the overall rate.


I don't find the "chance me" threads useful, but I find the results threads--what OP is looking for--very helpful. It would be good to have a more localized version of that portion of CC.



That's what I was referring to. It was very helpful to DC to watch to get a sense of why s/he was SCEA deferred and what the next hurdle might be. It was also very helpful to DC to see the caliber of students being rejected at our state flagship, where DC was accepted EA and ultimately accepted. It was, you might say, a reality check.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:These chance me threads are honestly not useful. The college process is seriously fickle and unpredictable. You could have a perfect SAT and GPA and get denied from every elite school you apply to. You could be white but be at the bottom 25% for testing, yet get in virtually everywhere.

In my experience looking at these posts, high school students have a tendency to severely overrate the quality of their essays and recommendations. You'll mostly see 7-10/10s listed on College Confidential. In the eyes of an admission officer, most will be at the 3-7/10 range. So take subjective remarks about quality with a grain of salt.

Something to note for the elite LACs (Williams, Amherst, Pomona) is that they fill a huge chunk of their early class (some 40-60%) with recruited athletes. While they have higher overall early acceptance rates, it's not really that much higher. To illustrate this, say we have 700 ED applicants at Williams, and 235 were admitted. About 140 of them are recruited athletes- almost all of whom are given verbal commitments that they'll get in. That leaves us with 95 admits among the remaining 560 applicants- a 16.9% acceptance rate. Basically no change from the overall rate.


Simple math would tell you that this is incorrect. A basic understanding of NESCAC recruiting guidelines would as well.
Anonymous
OP good try but unfortunately I don't think folks here are going to do this. College Confidential is probably the only way to get some of this intel. but even then, I don't think those postings tell the full story.
Anonymous
NESCAC recruiting policies is 70 "slots", which is reserved for low stat but highly competitive athletes. There are additional athletes as well who have high stats and are admissible without their sport, who constitute the remainder of the athletes.

I stated 40-60% of the *early* pool, not the overall pool. The overall percent of athletes looks more around 20-45% depending on the school. The percent is 46% at Williams and 38% at Amherst.
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