FCPS Boundary Review Updates

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Are we able to see those comments after the meetings?

I'm not aware that you can. At the session, I attended they kept the Pigeonhole app with the comments open for about 45 minutes after the meeting ended in case people got home and wanted to look again and upvote comments. And then they apparently downloaded the comments and the comments disappeared.

If I'm wrong and someone has a different/better understanding, apologies.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Every once in awhile I travel on Prosperity Rd and the last time I was there they had yard signs about keeping the whole area in Woodson and not splitting it up. Looks like they stay in Woodson. How did they manage to avoid changes or was it not that likely to begin with ?

It probably wasn't that likely to begin with, but there have long been rumors about FCPS moving at least part of the Mantua ES district (which includes the areas off Prosperity) to Falls Church HS, and they are expanding Falls Church. Also, Mantua is an AAP center and the other schools that send kids to that AAP center are all in the Falls Church pyramid. The parents got nervous and started mobilizing.

But there was nothing about that area that FCPS's consultants treated as a trigger for a boundary change:

* Mantua doesn't have any attendance islands, nor is any part of Mantua an attendance island for Frost of Woodson.

* Mantua sits within its attendance zone.

* Mantua isn't a split feeder (at least when only considering those living within its base boundaries).

* Woodson is at 104% but below the 105% threshold that Thru treated as warranting boundary change proposals.

In addition, Thru's latest proposals involve Woodson and Fairfax swapping some other neighborhoods (areas at Fairfax Villa that currently feed to Woodson and areas at Willow Springs that currently feed to Fairfax) that would bring Woodson down to 100% capacity, while separately proposing to move some McLean neighborhoods (areas at Timber Lane) to Falls Church, which would increase the capacity utilization at FCHS.

But Dr. Reid has been calling the latest Thru proposals, which contain a bunch of other quirks, "drafty drafts" and emphasizing there could be changes in the next round of proposals. It's a shame the Thru work to date has been so incredibly shoddy and that they are so flippant about keeping people on edge for months on end.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Every once in awhile I travel on Prosperity Rd and the last time I was there they had yard signs about keeping the whole area in Woodson and not splitting it up. Looks like they stay in Woodson. How did they manage to avoid changes or was it not that likely to begin with ?

It probably wasn't that likely to begin with, but there have long been rumors about FCPS moving at least part of the Mantua ES district (which includes the areas off Prosperity) to Falls Church HS, and they are expanding Falls Church. Also, Mantua is an AAP center and the other schools that send kids to that AAP center are all in the Falls Church pyramid. The parents got nervous and started mobilizing.

But there was nothing about that area that FCPS's consultants treated as a trigger for a boundary change:

* Mantua doesn't have any attendance islands, nor is any part of Mantua an attendance island for Frost of Woodson.

* Mantua sits within its attendance zone.

* Mantua isn't a split feeder (at least when only considering those living within its base boundaries).

* Woodson is at 104% but below the 105% threshold that Thru treated as warranting boundary change proposals.

In addition, Thru's latest proposals involve Woodson and Fairfax swapping some other neighborhoods (areas at Fairfax Villa that currently feed to Woodson and areas at Willow Springs that currently feed to Fairfax) that would bring Woodson down to 100% capacity, while separately proposing to move some McLean neighborhoods (areas at Timber Lane) to Falls Church, which would increase the capacity utilization at FCHS.

But Dr. Reid has been calling the latest Thru proposals, which contain a bunch of other quirks, "drafty drafts" and emphasizing there could be changes in the next round of proposals. It's a shame the Thru work to date has been so incredibly shoddy and that they are so flippant about keeping people on edge for months on end.

One could argue they fit into the criteria of overcrowding through. Mantua is very above capacity but parents will state they are fine we modules. Those east of prosperity were sweating they would be moved to Camelot which is under capacity and feed to FCHS.

Oh. And we can’t forget a school board bestie somehow made her way as a 3rd BRAC member when majority of pyramids had 2 people..

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Every once in awhile I travel on Prosperity Rd and the last time I was there they had yard signs about keeping the whole area in Woodson and not splitting it up. Looks like they stay in Woodson. How did they manage to avoid changes or was it not that likely to begin with ?

It probably wasn't that likely to begin with, but there have long been rumors about FCPS moving at least part of the Mantua ES district (which includes the areas off Prosperity) to Falls Church HS, and they are expanding Falls Church. Also, Mantua is an AAP center and the other schools that send kids to that AAP center are all in the Falls Church pyramid. The parents got nervous and started mobilizing.

But there was nothing about that area that FCPS's consultants treated as a trigger for a boundary change:

* Mantua doesn't have any attendance islands, nor is any part of Mantua an attendance island for Frost of Woodson.

* Mantua sits within its attendance zone.

* Mantua isn't a split feeder (at least when only considering those living within its base boundaries).

* Woodson is at 104% but below the 105% threshold that Thru treated as warranting boundary change proposals.

In addition, Thru's latest proposals involve Woodson and Fairfax swapping some other neighborhoods (areas at Fairfax Villa that currently feed to Woodson and areas at Willow Springs that currently feed to Fairfax) that would bring Woodson down to 100% capacity, while separately proposing to move some McLean neighborhoods (areas at Timber Lane) to Falls Church, which would increase the capacity utilization at FCHS.

But Dr. Reid has been calling the latest Thru proposals, which contain a bunch of other quirks, "drafty drafts" and emphasizing there could be changes in the next round of proposals. It's a shame the Thru work to date has been so incredibly shoddy and that they are so flippant about keeping people on edge for months on end.

One could argue they fit into the criteria of overcrowding through. Mantua is very above capacity but parents will state they are fine we modules. Those east of prosperity were sweating they would be moved to Camelot which is under capacity and feed to FCHS.

Oh. And we can’t forget a school board bestie somehow made her way as a 3rd BRAC member when majority of pyramids had 2 people..

Is she the one who at the school board meeting spoke publicly about the need to move other people’s kids while at the same time arguing that her kids should stay in their pyramid? That was so gross.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Every once in awhile I travel on Prosperity Rd and the last time I was there they had yard signs about keeping the whole area in Woodson and not splitting it up. Looks like they stay in Woodson. How did they manage to avoid changes or was it not that likely to begin with ?

It probably wasn't that likely to begin with, but there have long been rumors about FCPS moving at least part of the Mantua ES district (which includes the areas off Prosperity) to Falls Church HS, and they are expanding Falls Church. Also, Mantua is an AAP center and the other schools that send kids to that AAP center are all in the Falls Church pyramid. The parents got nervous and started mobilizing.

But there was nothing about that area that FCPS's consultants treated as a trigger for a boundary change:

* Mantua doesn't have any attendance islands, nor is any part of Mantua an attendance island for Frost of Woodson.

* Mantua sits within its attendance zone.

* Mantua isn't a split feeder (at least when only considering those living within its base boundaries).

* Woodson is at 104% but below the 105% threshold that Thru treated as warranting boundary change proposals.

In addition, Thru's latest proposals involve Woodson and Fairfax swapping some other neighborhoods (areas at Fairfax Villa that currently feed to Woodson and areas at Willow Springs that currently feed to Fairfax) that would bring Woodson down to 100% capacity, while separately proposing to move some McLean neighborhoods (areas at Timber Lane) to Falls Church, which would increase the capacity utilization at FCHS.

But Dr. Reid has been calling the latest Thru proposals, which contain a bunch of other quirks, "drafty drafts" and emphasizing there could be changes in the next round of proposals. It's a shame the Thru work to date has been so incredibly shoddy and that they are so flippant about keeping people on edge for months on end.

One could argue they fit into the criteria of overcrowding through. Mantua is very above capacity but parents will state they are fine we modules. Those east of prosperity were sweating they would be moved to Camelot which is under capacity and feed to FCHS.

Oh. And we can’t forget a school board bestie somehow made her way as a 3rd BRAC member when majority of pyramids had 2 people..

By the criteria that Thru applied there was no basis to move kids out of Mantua, Frost, or Woodson. There are some Frost/Woodson moves in response to addressing the attendance island at Fairfax, but they don't affect Mantua.

A cynic would say that the things that Thru focused on were "reverse engineered" to avoid boundary changes at schools like Mantua or Langley. Personally, I'm glad that they took modular capacity into account in determining whether they should propose boundary changes, which kept Mantua out of it. Had they not done so, there would be more proposed changes, and schools that for whatever reason have gotten modulars rather than permanent additions would be getting dinged harder. You may have a different opinion, of course.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Every once in awhile I travel on Prosperity Rd and the last time I was there they had yard signs about keeping the whole area in Woodson and not splitting it up. Looks like they stay in Woodson. How did they manage to avoid changes or was it not that likely to begin with ?

It probably wasn't that likely to begin with, but there have long been rumors about FCPS moving at least part of the Mantua ES district (which includes the areas off Prosperity) to Falls Church HS, and they are expanding Falls Church. Also, Mantua is an AAP center and the other schools that send kids to that AAP center are all in the Falls Church pyramid. The parents got nervous and started mobilizing.

But there was nothing about that area that FCPS's consultants treated as a trigger for a boundary change:

* Mantua doesn't have any attendance islands, nor is any part of Mantua an attendance island for Frost of Woodson.

* Mantua sits within its attendance zone.

* Mantua isn't a split feeder (at least when only considering those living within its base boundaries).

* Woodson is at 104% but below the 105% threshold that Thru treated as warranting boundary change proposals.

In addition, Thru's latest proposals involve Woodson and Fairfax swapping some other neighborhoods (areas at Fairfax Villa that currently feed to Woodson and areas at Willow Springs that currently feed to Fairfax) that would bring Woodson down to 100% capacity, while separately proposing to move some McLean neighborhoods (areas at Timber Lane) to Falls Church, which would increase the capacity utilization at FCHS.

But Dr. Reid has been calling the latest Thru proposals, which contain a bunch of other quirks, "drafty drafts" and emphasizing there could be changes in the next round of proposals. It's a shame the Thru work to date has been so incredibly shoddy and that they are so flippant about keeping people on edge for months on end.

One could argue they fit into the criteria of overcrowding through. Mantua is very above capacity but parents will state they are fine we modules. Those east of prosperity were sweating they would be moved to Camelot which is under capacity and feed to FCHS.

Oh. And we can’t forget a school board bestie somehow made her way as a 3rd BRAC member when majority of pyramids had 2 people..

Is she the one who at the school board meeting spoke publicly about the need to move other people’s kids while at the same time arguing that her kids should stay in their pyramid? That was so gross.

DP. That's her. She is utterly shameless, which you have to be to fawn over this boundary study while saying in public your own neighborhood should be left alone.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Every once in awhile I travel on Prosperity Rd and the last time I was there they had yard signs about keeping the whole area in Woodson and not splitting it up. Looks like they stay in Woodson. How did they manage to avoid changes or was it not that likely to begin with ?

It probably wasn't that likely to begin with, but there have long been rumors about FCPS moving at least part of the Mantua ES district (which includes the areas off Prosperity) to Falls Church HS, and they are expanding Falls Church. Also, Mantua is an AAP center and the other schools that send kids to that AAP center are all in the Falls Church pyramid. The parents got nervous and started mobilizing.

But there was nothing about that area that FCPS's consultants treated as a trigger for a boundary change:

* Mantua doesn't have any attendance islands, nor is any part of Mantua an attendance island for Frost of Woodson.

* Mantua sits within its attendance zone.

* Mantua isn't a split feeder (at least when only considering those living within its base boundaries).

* Woodson is at 104% but below the 105% threshold that Thru treated as warranting boundary change proposals.

In addition, Thru's latest proposals involve Woodson and Fairfax swapping some other neighborhoods (areas at Fairfax Villa that currently feed to Woodson and areas at Willow Springs that currently feed to Fairfax) that would bring Woodson down to 100% capacity, while separately proposing to move some McLean neighborhoods (areas at Timber Lane) to Falls Church, which would increase the capacity utilization at FCHS.

But Dr. Reid has been calling the latest Thru proposals, which contain a bunch of other quirks, "drafty drafts" and emphasizing there could be changes in the next round of proposals. It's a shame the Thru work to date has been so incredibly shoddy and that they are so flippant about keeping people on edge for months on end.

One could argue they fit into the criteria of overcrowding through. Mantua is very above capacity but parents will state they are fine we modules. Those east of prosperity were sweating they would be moved to Camelot which is under capacity and feed to FCHS.

Oh. And we can’t forget a school board bestie somehow made her way as a 3rd BRAC member when majority of pyramids had 2 people..

Is she the one who at the school board meeting spoke publicly about the need to move other people’s kids while at the same time arguing that her kids should stay in their pyramid? That was so gross.

DP. That's her. She is utterly shameless, which you have to be to fawn over this boundary study while saying in public your own neighborhood should be left alone.

I wish hypocrites like that the very worst in the process. People should not advocate for other kids to be moved while they advocate for their own kids to stay.

She should have the courage to move her kids to a different school if she thinks it’s no big deal. Come to think of it, all the school board members who support this flawed unnecessary process should volunteer their own kids to be moved as well.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Every once in awhile I travel on Prosperity Rd and the last time I was there they had yard signs about keeping the whole area in Woodson and not splitting it up. Looks like they stay in Woodson. How did they manage to avoid changes or was it not that likely to begin with ?

It probably wasn't that likely to begin with, but there have long been rumors about FCPS moving at least part of the Mantua ES district (which includes the areas off Prosperity) to Falls Church HS, and they are expanding Falls Church. Also, Mantua is an AAP center and the other schools that send kids to that AAP center are all in the Falls Church pyramid. The parents got nervous and started mobilizing.

But there was nothing about that area that FCPS's consultants treated as a trigger for a boundary change:

* Mantua doesn't have any attendance islands, nor is any part of Mantua an attendance island for Frost of Woodson.

* Mantua sits within its attendance zone.

* Mantua isn't a split feeder (at least when only considering those living within its base boundaries).

* Woodson is at 104% but below the 105% threshold that Thru treated as warranting boundary change proposals.

In addition, Thru's latest proposals involve Woodson and Fairfax swapping some other neighborhoods (areas at Fairfax Villa that currently feed to Woodson and areas at Willow Springs that currently feed to Fairfax) that would bring Woodson down to 100% capacity, while separately proposing to move some McLean neighborhoods (areas at Timber Lane) to Falls Church, which would increase the capacity utilization at FCHS.

But Dr. Reid has been calling the latest Thru proposals, which contain a bunch of other quirks, "drafty drafts" and emphasizing there could be changes in the next round of proposals. It's a shame the Thru work to date has been so incredibly shoddy and that they are so flippant about keeping people on edge for months on end.

One could argue they fit into the criteria of overcrowding through. Mantua is very above capacity but parents will state they are fine we modules. Those east of prosperity were sweating they would be moved to Camelot which is under capacity and feed to FCHS.

Oh. And we can’t forget a school board bestie somehow made her way as a 3rd BRAC member when majority of pyramids had 2 people..

By the criteria that Thru applied there was no basis to move kids out of Mantua, Frost, or Woodson. There are some Frost/Woodson moves in response to addressing the attendance island at Fairfax, but they don't affect Mantua.

A cynic would say that the things that Thru focused on were "reverse engineered" to avoid boundary changes at schools like Mantua or Langley. Personally, I'm glad that they took modular capacity into account in determining whether they should propose boundary changes, which kept Mantua out of it. Had they not done so, there would be more proposed changes, and schools that for whatever reason have gotten modulars rather than permanent additions would be getting dinged harder. You may have a different opinion, of course.

Yes, a lot of the equity moves were dampened. Had this been a Harris administration, the results could have looked very different. They’ve certainly pulled back a lot to stick to their new promises of attendance islands, split feeders and capacity with modular/trailer considerations.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Every once in awhile I travel on Prosperity Rd and the last time I was there they had yard signs about keeping the whole area in Woodson and not splitting it up. Looks like they stay in Woodson. How did they manage to avoid changes or was it not that likely to begin with ?

It probably wasn't that likely to begin with, but there have long been rumors about FCPS moving at least part of the Mantua ES district (which includes the areas off Prosperity) to Falls Church HS, and they are expanding Falls Church. Also, Mantua is an AAP center and the other schools that send kids to that AAP center are all in the Falls Church pyramid. The parents got nervous and started mobilizing.

But there was nothing about that area that FCPS's consultants treated as a trigger for a boundary change:

* Mantua doesn't have any attendance islands, nor is any part of Mantua an attendance island for Frost of Woodson.

* Mantua sits within its attendance zone.

* Mantua isn't a split feeder (at least when only considering those living within its base boundaries).

* Woodson is at 104% but below the 105% threshold that Thru treated as warranting boundary change proposals.

In addition, Thru's latest proposals involve Woodson and Fairfax swapping some other neighborhoods (areas at Fairfax Villa that currently feed to Woodson and areas at Willow Springs that currently feed to Fairfax) that would bring Woodson down to 100% capacity, while separately proposing to move some McLean neighborhoods (areas at Timber Lane) to Falls Church, which would increase the capacity utilization at FCHS.

But Dr. Reid has been calling the latest Thru proposals, which contain a bunch of other quirks, "drafty drafts" and emphasizing there could be changes in the next round of proposals. It's a shame the Thru work to date has been so incredibly shoddy and that they are so flippant about keeping people on edge for months on end.

One could argue they fit into the criteria of overcrowding through. Mantua is very above capacity but parents will state they are fine we modules. Those east of prosperity were sweating they would be moved to Camelot which is under capacity and feed to FCHS.

Oh. And we can’t forget a school board bestie somehow made her way as a 3rd BRAC member when majority of pyramids had 2 people..

By the criteria that Thru applied there was no basis to move kids out of Mantua, Frost, or Woodson. There are some Frost/Woodson moves in response to addressing the attendance island at Fairfax, but they don't affect Mantua.

A cynic would say that the things that Thru focused on were "reverse engineered" to avoid boundary changes at schools like Mantua or Langley. Personally, I'm glad that they took modular capacity into account in determining whether they should propose boundary changes, which kept Mantua out of it. Had they not done so, there would be more proposed changes, and schools that for whatever reason have gotten modulars rather than permanent additions would be getting dinged harder. You may have a different opinion, of course.

Yes, a lot of the equity moves were dampened. Had this been a Harris administration, the results could have looked very different. They’ve certainly pulled back a lot to stick to their new promises of attendance islands, split feeders and capacity with modular/trailer considerations.

+1 I think there was probably limited support amongst the major stakeholders at FCPS for equity moves to begin with - maybe a slim majority in support, with others opposed, or expressing concerns about transportation or attendance logistics if kids were being bussed further away. Then the presidential election happened and enough people got spooked that they backed off entirely.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Every once in awhile I travel on Prosperity Rd and the last time I was there they had yard signs about keeping the whole area in Woodson and not splitting it up. Looks like they stay in Woodson. How did they manage to avoid changes or was it not that likely to begin with ?

It probably wasn't that likely to begin with, but there have long been rumors about FCPS moving at least part of the Mantua ES district (which includes the areas off Prosperity) to Falls Church HS, and they are expanding Falls Church. Also, Mantua is an AAP center and the other schools that send kids to that AAP center are all in the Falls Church pyramid. The parents got nervous and started mobilizing.

But there was nothing about that area that FCPS's consultants treated as a trigger for a boundary change:

* Mantua doesn't have any attendance islands, nor is any part of Mantua an attendance island for Frost of Woodson.

* Mantua sits within its attendance zone.

* Mantua isn't a split feeder (at least when only considering those living within its base boundaries).

* Woodson is at 104% but below the 105% threshold that Thru treated as warranting boundary change proposals.

In addition, Thru's latest proposals involve Woodson and Fairfax swapping some other neighborhoods (areas at Fairfax Villa that currently feed to Woodson and areas at Willow Springs that currently feed to Fairfax) that would bring Woodson down to 100% capacity, while separately proposing to move some McLean neighborhoods (areas at Timber Lane) to Falls Church, which would increase the capacity utilization at FCHS.

But Dr. Reid has been calling the latest Thru proposals, which contain a bunch of other quirks, "drafty drafts" and emphasizing there could be changes in the next round of proposals. It's a shame the Thru work to date has been so incredibly shoddy and that they are so flippant about keeping people on edge for months on end.

One could argue they fit into the criteria of overcrowding through. Mantua is very above capacity but parents will state they are fine we modules. Those east of prosperity were sweating they would be moved to Camelot which is under capacity and feed to FCHS.

Oh. And we can’t forget a school board bestie somehow made her way as a 3rd BRAC member when majority of pyramids had 2 people..

By the criteria that Thru applied there was no basis to move kids out of Mantua, Frost, or Woodson. There are some Frost/Woodson moves in response to addressing the attendance island at Fairfax, but they don't affect Mantua.

A cynic would say that the things that Thru focused on were "reverse engineered" to avoid boundary changes at schools like Mantua or Langley. Personally, I'm glad that they took modular capacity into account in determining whether they should propose boundary changes, which kept Mantua out of it. Had they not done so, there would be more proposed changes, and schools that for whatever reason have gotten modulars rather than permanent additions would be getting dinged harder. You may have a different opinion, of course.

Yes, a lot of the equity moves were dampened. Had this been a Harris administration, the results could have looked very different. They’ve certainly pulled back a lot to stick to their new promises of attendance islands, split feeders and capacity with modular/trailer considerations.

+1 I think there was probably limited support amongst the major stakeholders at FCPS for equity moves to begin with - maybe a slim majority in support, with others opposed, or expressing concerns about transportation or attendance logistics if kids were being bussed further away. Then the presidential election happened and enough people got spooked that they backed off entirely.

Don’t claim victory 13.1 miles into a marathon. People should not relax until the final vote has been taken. This school board has shown time and time again that they don’t feel beholden to their constituents and our opposition to the boundary review/changes.

They’re slippery like a pole at the strip club that McDaniel allegedly brought colleagues to.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Every once in awhile I travel on Prosperity Rd and the last time I was there they had yard signs about keeping the whole area in Woodson and not splitting it up. Looks like they stay in Woodson. How did they manage to avoid changes or was it not that likely to begin with ?

It probably wasn't that likely to begin with, but there have long been rumors about FCPS moving at least part of the Mantua ES district (which includes the areas off Prosperity) to Falls Church HS, and they are expanding Falls Church. Also, Mantua is an AAP center and the other schools that send kids to that AAP center are all in the Falls Church pyramid. The parents got nervous and started mobilizing.

But there was nothing about that area that FCPS's consultants treated as a trigger for a boundary change:

* Mantua doesn't have any attendance islands, nor is any part of Mantua an attendance island for Frost of Woodson.

* Mantua sits within its attendance zone.

* Mantua isn't a split feeder (at least when only considering those living within its base boundaries).

* Woodson is at 104% but below the 105% threshold that Thru treated as warranting boundary change proposals.

In addition, Thru's latest proposals involve Woodson and Fairfax swapping some other neighborhoods (areas at Fairfax Villa that currently feed to Woodson and areas at Willow Springs that currently feed to Fairfax) that would bring Woodson down to 100% capacity, while separately proposing to move some McLean neighborhoods (areas at Timber Lane) to Falls Church, which would increase the capacity utilization at FCHS.

But Dr. Reid has been calling the latest Thru proposals, which contain a bunch of other quirks, "drafty drafts" and emphasizing there could be changes in the next round of proposals. It's a shame the Thru work to date has been so incredibly shoddy and that they are so flippant about keeping people on edge for months on end.

One could argue they fit into the criteria of overcrowding through. Mantua is very above capacity but parents will state they are fine we modules. Those east of prosperity were sweating they would be moved to Camelot which is under capacity and feed to FCHS.

Oh. And we can’t forget a school board bestie somehow made her way as a 3rd BRAC member when majority of pyramids had 2 people..

By the criteria that Thru applied there was no basis to move kids out of Mantua, Frost, or Woodson. There are some Frost/Woodson moves in response to addressing the attendance island at Fairfax, but they don't affect Mantua.

A cynic would say that the things that Thru focused on were "reverse engineered" to avoid boundary changes at schools like Mantua or Langley. Personally, I'm glad that they took modular capacity into account in determining whether they should propose boundary changes, which kept Mantua out of it. Had they not done so, there would be more proposed changes, and schools that for whatever reason have gotten modulars rather than permanent additions would be getting dinged harder. You may have a different opinion, of course.

Yes, a lot of the equity moves were dampened. Had this been a Harris administration, the results could have looked very different. They’ve certainly pulled back a lot to stick to their new promises of attendance islands, split feeders and capacity with modular/trailer considerations.

+1 I think there was probably limited support amongst the major stakeholders at FCPS for equity moves to begin with - maybe a slim majority in support, with others opposed, or expressing concerns about transportation or attendance logistics if kids were being bussed further away. Then the presidential election happened and enough people got spooked that they backed off entirely.

Don’t claim victory 13.1 miles into a marathon. People should not relax until the final vote has been taken. This school board has shown time and time again that they don’t feel beholden to their constituents and our opposition to the boundary review/changes.

They’re slippery like a pole at the strip club that McDaniel allegedly brought colleagues to.

I guess if you're at Langley or West Springfield and they haven't proposed to move you to Herndon or Lewis maybe you feel like what they are doing now is just fine, but there are a lot of other unhappy people and they may yet pull others back into their machinations.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Every once in awhile I travel on Prosperity Rd and the last time I was there they had yard signs about keeping the whole area in Woodson and not splitting it up. Looks like they stay in Woodson. How did they manage to avoid changes or was it not that likely to begin with ?

It probably wasn't that likely to begin with, but there have long been rumors about FCPS moving at least part of the Mantua ES district (which includes the areas off Prosperity) to Falls Church HS, and they are expanding Falls Church. Also, Mantua is an AAP center and the other schools that send kids to that AAP center are all in the Falls Church pyramid. The parents got nervous and started mobilizing.

But there was nothing about that area that FCPS's consultants treated as a trigger for a boundary change:

* Mantua doesn't have any attendance islands, nor is any part of Mantua an attendance island for Frost of Woodson.

* Mantua sits within its attendance zone.

* Mantua isn't a split feeder (at least when only considering those living within its base boundaries).

* Woodson is at 104% but below the 105% threshold that Thru treated as warranting boundary change proposals.

In addition, Thru's latest proposals involve Woodson and Fairfax swapping some other neighborhoods (areas at Fairfax Villa that currently feed to Woodson and areas at Willow Springs that currently feed to Fairfax) that would bring Woodson down to 100% capacity, while separately proposing to move some McLean neighborhoods (areas at Timber Lane) to Falls Church, which would increase the capacity utilization at FCHS.

But Dr. Reid has been calling the latest Thru proposals, which contain a bunch of other quirks, "drafty drafts" and emphasizing there could be changes in the next round of proposals. It's a shame the Thru work to date has been so incredibly shoddy and that they are so flippant about keeping people on edge for months on end.

One could argue they fit into the criteria of overcrowding through. Mantua is very above capacity but parents will state they are fine we modules. Those east of prosperity were sweating they would be moved to Camelot which is under capacity and feed to FCHS.

Oh. And we can’t forget a school board bestie somehow made her way as a 3rd BRAC member when majority of pyramids had 2 people..

By the criteria that Thru applied there was no basis to move kids out of Mantua, Frost, or Woodson. There are some Frost/Woodson moves in response to addressing the attendance island at Fairfax, but they don't affect Mantua.

A cynic would say that the things that Thru focused on were "reverse engineered" to avoid boundary changes at schools like Mantua or Langley. Personally, I'm glad that they took modular capacity into account in determining whether they should propose boundary changes, which kept Mantua out of it. Had they not done so, there would be more proposed changes, and schools that for whatever reason have gotten modulars rather than permanent additions would be getting dinged harder. You may have a different opinion, of course.

Yes, a lot of the equity moves were dampened. Had this been a Harris administration, the results could have looked very different. They’ve certainly pulled back a lot to stick to their new promises of attendance islands, split feeders and capacity with modular/trailer considerations.

+1 I think there was probably limited support amongst the major stakeholders at FCPS for equity moves to begin with - maybe a slim majority in support, with others opposed, or expressing concerns about transportation or attendance logistics if kids were being bussed further away. Then the presidential election happened and enough people got spooked that they backed off entirely.

Don’t claim victory 13.1 miles into a marathon. People should not relax until the final vote has been taken. This school board has shown time and time again that they don’t feel beholden to their constituents and our opposition to the boundary review/changes.

They’re slippery like a pole at the strip club that McDaniel allegedly brought colleagues to.

I guess if you're at Langley or West Springfield and they haven't proposed to move you to Herndon or Lewis maybe you feel like what they are doing now is just fine, but there are a lot of other unhappy people and they may yet pull others back into their machinations.

Parts of WS are still worried because their are proposing a move to SC for no good reason. It seems like they feel they have to make some changes since they have backed off the biggest rumored ones.

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Anonymous wrote:Every once in awhile I travel on Prosperity Rd and the last time I was there they had yard signs about keeping the whole area in Woodson and not splitting it up. Looks like they stay in Woodson. How did they manage to avoid changes or was it not that likely to begin with ?

It probably wasn't that likely to begin with, but there have long been rumors about FCPS moving at least part of the Mantua ES district (which includes the areas off Prosperity) to Falls Church HS, and they are expanding Falls Church. Also, Mantua is an AAP center and the other schools that send kids to that AAP center are all in the Falls Church pyramid. The parents got nervous and started mobilizing.

But there was nothing about that area that FCPS's consultants treated as a trigger for a boundary change:

* Mantua doesn't have any attendance islands, nor is any part of Mantua an attendance island for Frost of Woodson.

* Mantua sits within its attendance zone.

* Mantua isn't a split feeder (at least when only considering those living within its base boundaries).

* Woodson is at 104% but below the 105% threshold that Thru treated as warranting boundary change proposals.

In addition, Thru's latest proposals involve Woodson and Fairfax swapping some other neighborhoods (areas at Fairfax Villa that currently feed to Woodson and areas at Willow Springs that currently feed to Fairfax) that would bring Woodson down to 100% capacity, while separately proposing to move some McLean neighborhoods (areas at Timber Lane) to Falls Church, which would increase the capacity utilization at FCHS.

But Dr. Reid has been calling the latest Thru proposals, which contain a bunch of other quirks, "drafty drafts" and emphasizing there could be changes in the next round of proposals. It's a shame the Thru work to date has been so incredibly shoddy and that they are so flippant about keeping people on edge for months on end.

One could argue they fit into the criteria of overcrowding through. Mantua is very above capacity but parents will state they are fine we modules. Those east of prosperity were sweating they would be moved to Camelot which is under capacity and feed to FCHS.

Oh. And we can’t forget a school board bestie somehow made her way as a 3rd BRAC member when majority of pyramids had 2 people..

By the criteria that Thru applied there was no basis to move kids out of Mantua, Frost, or Woodson. There are some Frost/Woodson moves in response to addressing the attendance island at Fairfax, but they don't affect Mantua.

A cynic would say that the things that Thru focused on were "reverse engineered" to avoid boundary changes at schools like Mantua or Langley. Personally, I'm glad that they took modular capacity into account in determining whether they should propose boundary changes, which kept Mantua out of it. Had they not done so, there would be more proposed changes, and schools that for whatever reason have gotten modulars rather than permanent additions would be getting dinged harder. You may have a different opinion, of course.

Yes, a lot of the equity moves were dampened. Had this been a Harris administration, the results could have looked very different. They’ve certainly pulled back a lot to stick to their new promises of attendance islands, split feeders and capacity with modular/trailer considerations.

+1 I think there was probably limited support amongst the major stakeholders at FCPS for equity moves to begin with - maybe a slim majority in support, with others opposed, or expressing concerns about transportation or attendance logistics if kids were being bussed further away. Then the presidential election happened and enough people got spooked that they backed off entirely.

Don’t claim victory 13.1 miles into a marathon. People should not relax until the final vote has been taken. This school board has shown time and time again that they don’t feel beholden to their constituents and our opposition to the boundary review/changes.

They’re slippery like a pole at the strip club that McDaniel allegedly brought colleagues to.

I guess if you're at Langley or West Springfield and they haven't proposed to move you to Herndon or Lewis maybe you feel like what they are doing now is just fine, but there are a lot of other unhappy people and they may yet pull others back into their machinations.

Parts of WS are still worried because their are proposing a move to SC for no good reason. It seems like they feel they have to make some changes since they have backed off the biggest rumored ones.

I'm in that part of WS and worry that there will be a last minute flip to Lewis. I'm not letting my guard down at all.

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FIX RACHEL CARSON SPLIT FEEDER NOW

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Anonymous wrote:FIX RACHEL CARSON SPLIT FEEDER NOW

How would you fix it? Which schools should it feed?