Jen Hatmaker

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Speaking of women sleeping with married men though, how did the curious public never learn the identity of Brandon’s side chick from 2019-20? Or was that shared and I missed it? I didn’t follow too closely. All I saw was that it wasn’t Tina. I always wondered if it was someone Jen knew personally (like Kristen and Heather situation) or if it’s anyone she’s having to avoid around town still. That could explain some of Jen’s ongoing anxiousness when home especially, if the other woman still lives nearby and even if they run in separate circles. Betrayal trauma runs deep as discussed earlier. I always figured the quick sell of the lake house had more to do with betrayal location than financial stress. Jen appears happier when she’s on the road, whether traveling for work or with Tyler or friends.

I always suspected a Brandon and Rachel Hollis affair, because those two couples were super close until they suddenly weren't and with no explanation. And then they both divorced around the same time. And suddenly Dave and Jen were the best of friends. Granted, Jen had raved about Dave previously, but after their divorces, it seemed to elevate. And darn near crickets for anything between Jen and Rachel since the divorces.

I could totally see the possibility of that except for that I find it really hard to believe that they would have been able to keep that under wraps for 3+ years. Unless it’s one of those situations where everyone involved just has so much crap on each other that everyone has been forced to protect each other mainly for self-preservation.

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Anonymous wrote:I have a genuine question about Jen Hatmaker’s bathroom beauty how-to videos. I always assumed she was setting up the camera and filming them herself, alone. But in the latest lipstick video, it looks like it’s moving around. Does someone stand there and film these for her? Who would that be? Tyler? Remy? A paid assistant? And how does she make money from Beauty Counter? Does she get a cut from sales when people use her link? Or does BC pay her a flat fee to do commercials like this? Or do people have to register underneath her, MLM style, and she makes money off of that? The whole thing puzzles me.

Only 2 Facebook comments in 7-8 hours. One says “wow amazing” which I can’t tell if that’s sarcastic or not. The other made a request for more affordable product endorsements and says she wants an outfit for $55, not a lipstick. Jen looks beautiful though. It’s not a knock on her. Just the whole system. This whole ridiculous social media influenced system. Over it.

I don’t know how she gets paid or who films her videos, but all of us, Jen included, would be better off if we could roll the little Jen Hatmaker corner of the internet back to pointing people to Christ instead of pointing people to the right shade of red lipstick for their skin tone. This world is in a sad state. If Cocaine-Dave and Suicide-Dooce are not a wake up call to the dangers of influencer upkeep, I don’t know what is.

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Anonymous wrote:I know her heart will always ache at times over the pain of that friend/husband betrayal. That kind of pain never fully goes away, even if the causers of harm die. But Kristen took the high road here, while also putting a helpful reminder out to the public: that mental illness should be on our radar. It steals, kills, and destroys.

It is never too late for any of us to live life abundantly. That true abundant life will also never ever be found in advice about skincare, makeup, fashion, college degrees, sex, travel destinations, home remodels, politics, or self-help-guru-lingo. See John 10:10 and John 14:6. John 3:16 also, for good measure.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Speaking of women sleeping with married men though, how did the curious public never learn the identity of Brandon’s side chick from 2019-20? Or was that shared and I missed it? I didn’t follow too closely. All I saw was that it wasn’t Tina. I always wondered if it was someone Jen knew personally (like Kristen and Heather situation) or if it’s anyone she’s having to avoid around town still. That could explain some of Jen’s ongoing anxiousness when home especially, if the other woman still lives nearby and even if they run in separate circles. Betrayal trauma runs deep as discussed earlier. I always figured the quick sell of the lake house had more to do with betrayal location than financial stress. Jen appears happier when she’s on the road, whether traveling for work or with Tyler or friends.

I always suspected a Brandon and Rachel Hollis affair, because those two couples were super close until they suddenly weren't and with no explanation. And then they both divorced around the same time. And suddenly Dave and Jen were the best of friends. Granted, Jen had raved about Dave previously, but after their divorces, it seemed to elevate. And darn near crickets for anything between Jen and Rachel since the divorces.

I could totally see the possibility of that except for that I find it really hard to believe that they would have been able to keep that under wraps for 3+ years. Unless it’s one of those situations where everyone involved just has so much crap on each other that everyone has been forced to protect each other mainly for self-preservation.

Jen did say once that she enjoyed getting together with Dave because they could talk to each other about situations and people that they couldn’t talk to anyone else about in such detail. But that’s pretty vague, so maybe that was no clue at all. I was under the impression it was a mistress much younger than Jen or Rachel. Like someone closer to Sidney’s age.

What’s done is done, and all that matters now is what everyone does next. Hooking up with Tyler in hotel rooms around the country for a year probably wasn’t the smart move. That whole situation has clearly done a number on her. Tying herself to various brand endorsements rather than her own creative projects also hasn’t suited her. Hopefully Jen’s next move brings out her creativity and confidence again.

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Anonymous wrote:I have a genuine question about Jen Hatmaker’s bathroom beauty how-to videos. I always assumed she was setting up the camera and filming them herself, alone. But in the latest lipstick video, it looks like it’s moving around. Does someone stand there and film these for her? Who would that be? Tyler? Remy? A paid assistant? And how does she make money from Beauty Counter? Does she get a cut from sales when people use her link? Or does BC pay her a flat fee to do commercials like this? Or do people have to register underneath her, MLM style, and she makes money off of that? The whole thing puzzles me.

Only 2 Facebook comments in 7-8 hours. One says “wow amazing” which I can’t tell if that’s sarcastic or not. The other made a request for more affordable product endorsements and says she wants an outfit for $55, not a lipstick. Jen looks beautiful though. It’s not a knock on her. Just the whole system. This whole ridiculous social media influenced system. Over it.

I don’t know how she gets paid or who films her videos, but all of us, Jen included, would be better off if we could roll the little Jen Hatmaker corner of the internet back to pointing people to Christ instead of pointing people to the right shade of red lipstick for their skin tone. This world is in a sad state. If Cocaine-Dave and Suicide-Dooce are not a wake up call to the dangers of influencer upkeep, I don’t know what is.

I think that if people want to point people to Christ, then we should stop reducing people to just labeling their sins. God calls us by our names, not our sins.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have a genuine question about Jen Hatmaker’s bathroom beauty how-to videos. I always assumed she was setting up the camera and filming them herself, alone. But in the latest lipstick video, it looks like it’s moving around. Does someone stand there and film these for her? Who would that be? Tyler? Remy? A paid assistant? And how does she make money from Beauty Counter? Does she get a cut from sales when people use her link? Or does BC pay her a flat fee to do commercials like this? Or do people have to register underneath her, MLM style, and she makes money off of that? The whole thing puzzles me.

Only 2 Facebook comments in 7-8 hours. One says “wow amazing” which I can’t tell if that’s sarcastic or not. The other made a request for more affordable product endorsements and says she wants an outfit for $55, not a lipstick. Jen looks beautiful though. It’s not a knock on her. Just the whole system. This whole ridiculous social media influenced system. Over it.

I don’t know how she gets paid or who films her videos, but all of us, Jen included, would be better off if we could roll the little Jen Hatmaker corner of the internet back to pointing people to Christ instead of pointing people to the right shade of red lipstick for their skin tone. This world is in a sad state. If Cocaine-Dave and Suicide-Dooce are not a wake up call to the dangers of influencer upkeep, I don’t know what is.

I think that if people want to point people to Christ, then we should stop reducing people to just labeling their sins. God calls us by our names, not our sins.

I read that as calling them by how they died, not by their sins. I don’t consider suicide or mental illness to be a sin. Suicide, mental illness, drug addiction, and the dark abyss of online influencer life and all that comes with it just shows how many ways we can be pointed away from the true source of our identity and purpose…when there’s only one way to point to it. And that used to be the center of Jen’s message.

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Anonymous wrote:Suicide, mental illness, drug addiction, and the dark abyss of online influencer life and all that comes with it just shows how many ways we can be pointed away from the true source of our identity and purpose…when there’s only one way to point to it. And that used to be the center of Jen’s message.

The only center of her message now is: Have you booked your ticket for the Jen Hatmaker cruise yet? If not, what are you waiting for?!

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Big Sis’ latest appeal to sign up for the MeCruise is so predatory and gross. She’s so desperate for the corneaters to “just sign up” because “they need it”. Obligations and financial pressures be damned because Big Sis needs that money, y’all.

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Anonymous wrote:Can we talk about addiction? Influencers who need help and constant pressure to feel mentally and physically at their best succumbing to alcohol and drugs and Dooce got this pass on here in posts earlier for stepping out of the spotlight but then died by suicide. It feels hopeless.

Well the fact that she stepped away suggests that it wasn't really the pressure of the spotlight. We don't know what happened but I think it's too simplistic to say that influencers are at a particular risk of suicide and addiction.

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Anonymous wrote:Big Sis’ latest appeal to sign up for the MeCruise is so predatory and gross. She’s so desperate for the corneaters to “just sign up” because “they need it”. Obligations and financial pressures be damned because Big Sis needs that money, y’all.

What’s sad is that privately Jen detests and loathes her “corn eaters”.

Because how could she ever truly respect and admire any woman who would truly respect and admire her?

They’re such ridiculous and sad fools.

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Anonymous wrote:Big Sis’ latest appeal to sign up for the MeCruise is so predatory and gross. She’s so desperate for the corneaters to “just sign up” because “they need it”. Obligations and financial pressures be damned because Big Sis needs that money, y’all.

It’s advertising. I don’t like what’s become of Jen, but all she’s doing is advertising. She’s not tricking people into buying anything.

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Kristen and Dooce were close back when too, but Dooce slept with Kristen’s now ex-husband

Wow. I had no idea.

I have to admit when Kristen, Jamie and Jen did that podcast on divorce I was rolling my eyes that all of them were claiming to be victims of marrying a**holes in their early 20s. But this, and Brandon's admission of an affair, maybe they all really were married to cheating d-bags.

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I hope Remy has a great night at prom!! I’m sure she looks amazing… She is so beautiful! Jen was about to post a prom-ready picture of her, but then the story seemed to disappear? Jen had been giving a stories-play-by-play of the getting ready for prom (from downstairs, while Remy and squad were upstairs—no footage of the glam-prep, per Remy’s request), though it of course included mom-commentary on Remy’s poor time management among other things. My daughter was in a class with Remy years ago. We will always be rooting for her.

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Omg can she not say nice things about Remy like she doesnt need makeup or she could wear a paper bag to prom and still be beautiful. But, no, she has to continuously snark on her daughter’s time management. It’s so mean spirited at this point. Jen should be ashamed of herself. It disgusts me! And I hope to the heavens she reads this board and some of it sinks in.

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I’m surprised Jen hasn’t posted her own ‘90s prom photo. It’s Remy’s big night; surely there’s a way to make it about Jen.

She did sort of point to self with the mention of her picking up prom date table tabs in restaurants every year. Still no Remy photo. But to pp point, Remy absolute could rock a paper bag and no makeup.