new Reade/Biden thread

[Anonymous]

Can anyone who supports trump tell me why all of the sudden you are not ok blaming the victim? Don't say liberal hypocrisy. Tell me why this is so important to you now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Can anyone who supports trump tell me why all of the sudden you are not ok blaming the victim? Don't say liberal hypocrisy. Tell me why this is so important to you now.

Definitely. The left has been a lot nicer about Reade than the right ever would have been. If Reade was accusingTrump, you just know he’d be saying “I’d never hit that” and all the Trumpers on Fox would be sneering about her weight gain and obsessing over the horse farm.

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Anonymous wrote:Someone on twitter brought up a valid point. She claims to have also been a senate staffer at the time and recalled that the dress code required women to wear pantyhose with skirts. Those of us who are old enough to remember pantyhose can verify that they were constricting enough to practically cut off circulation. It is hard to imagine that he was able to reach up her skirt and inside pantyhose far enough to penetrate. Especially while standing up in a hallway where someone could have walked by at anytime.

I was wondering about this! As a former pantyhose wearer from that era. Digital penetration through pantyhose in a hallway, not happening.

[Anonymous]

She said she wasn't wearing hose.

Regardless, no one cares so women should save themselves the trouble of coming forward.

[Anonymous]

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For those of you who were insisting that no one says "believe all women"...well, this sure looks like they do.

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The truth is, we need a better Democratic Presidential nominee.

The man is old, has said inappropriate and impulsive things, been handsy with women, and now there’s this story. I believe Biden is not evil, and I believe Reade was harassed in some way: the two can coexist.

But I don’t want Biden as President. He’s not smart, he’s in decline, and he has a questionable history with women.

I want any one of the multiple younger and more competent Democratic candidates!!!!

You’re either a disgruntled Bernie Bro or a Con trying to divide the opposition. Either way, you need to go away.

DP. Sorry, those aren’t the only choices. Many Democrats want a different candidate. If you were living in reality, you’d realize Biden’s time is long past. LONG past.

It’s LONG last the time to be whinging about this. Your candidate lost. So did mine (Warren). Our candidates simply didn’t get the votes. It’s over, and you need to understand that and move on. Don’t get the cons manipulate you into dividing the party so Trump can win in November.

Please don't use "whinging." I realize you're probably British, but here in the US we say "whining." Thanks.

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Anonymous wrote:80 pages on the other thread and 44 plus here doesn't matter. What matters is that oral sex isnt sex.

And what Biden is accused of isn’t sex either. End of story.

I disagree, it’s sexual harassment by someone in power, even if it doesn’t meet some state’s formal definition of “rape.” Donnie the Groper has done similar things dozens of times in much better documented allegations, and I think we can all agree it’s vile.

But I doubt Biden did it. Reade has changed her story too many times and her corroboration doesn’t back her up very well. I doubt The NY Times, with its call for an investigation of the Delaware files, thinks anything will turn up there, either. They just want to put this matter to rest before November, so they can fairly turn their big guns on Trump’s 24 allegations.

This thread is totally useful for ... airing and debunking the claims against Biden. I’ve learned a lot from you guys re the new accusation that lasted all of 3 hours on Saturday (what was her name again?). Re the Reade defrauding and robbing the pregnant horse non-profit. Re Reade editing her 2019 Medium post 2 days before she came out with her different 2020 allegations. Re Reade now claiming Biden’s office fired her although she had earlier said she left because her boyfriend “pleaded” with her to join him in the Midwest.

Keep this thread open and keep this useful stuff coming!

Let's assume Biden "harassed" her - that isn't rape and that isn't assault. Also this was after the Clarence Thomas hearings, which Biden started apologizing for almost immediately after and at the time in 1993, was leading the charge towards legislation and rules around benefiting women on this issue. The context just seems like the timing would be ridiculously bizarre for this to have taken place as Reade describes it.

Reade's story falls apart because she has changed it so many times. The pantyhose thing was discussed already, but there is no world where a sitting senator in 1993 fingers an aid in a public hallway.

Of course there is. The same world (and decade) in which a sitting president engaged in blow jobs in the Oval Office.
-DP

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Anonymous wrote:80 pages on the other thread and 44 plus here doesn't matter. What matters is that oral sex isnt sex.

And what Biden is accused of isn’t sex either. End of story.

I disagree, it’s sexual harassment by someone in power, even if it doesn’t meet some state’s formal definition of “rape.” Donnie the Groper has done similar things dozens of times in much better documented allegations, and I think we can all agree it’s vile.

But I doubt Biden did it. Reade has changed her story too many times and her corroboration doesn’t back her up very well. I doubt The NY Times, with its call for an investigation of the Delaware files, thinks anything will turn up there, either. They just want to put this matter to rest before November, so they can fairly turn their big guns on Trump’s 24 allegations.

This thread is totally useful for ... airing and debunking the claims against Biden. I’ve learned a lot from you guys re the new accusation that lasted all of 3 hours on Saturday (what was her name again?). Re the Reade defrauding and robbing the pregnant horse non-profit. Re Reade editing her 2019 Medium post 2 days before she came out with her different 2020 allegations. Re Reade now claiming Biden’s office fired her although she had earlier said she left because her boyfriend “pleaded” with her to join him in the Midwest.

Keep this thread open and keep this useful stuff coming!

Let's assume Biden "harassed" her - that isn't rape and that isn't assault. Also this was after the Clarence Thomas hearings, which Biden started apologizing for almost immediately after and at the time in 1993, was leading the charge towards legislation and rules around benefiting women on this issue. The context just seems like the timing would be ridiculously bizarre for this to have taken place as Reade describes it.

Reade's story falls apart because she has changed it so many times. The pantyhose thing was discussed already, but there is no world where a sitting senator in 1993 fingers an aid in a public hallway.

PP here. I totally agree that Reade’s story falls apart on many grounds, including some you didn’t mention just now, like the lack of corroboration. (Her brother changing his story, for example).

I do believe sexual harassment is assault. I was pinned against a wall and physically molested and it sure felt like assault.

But again, so far Reade’s claim that Biden did this is not credible.

Being pinned against a wall and physically molested is absolutely sexual assault. Sexual harassment is not sexual assault.

Exactly this. Astonishing that the very same people who called an act of groping "sexual assault" are now insisting that being ACTUALLY PHYSICALLY MOLESTED is not sexual assault. Very, very interesting.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:80 pages on the other thread and 44 plus here doesn't matter. What matters is that oral sex isnt sex.

And what Biden is accused of isn’t sex either. End of story.

I disagree, it’s sexual harassment by someone in power, even if it doesn’t meet some state’s formal definition of “rape.” Donnie the Groper has done similar things dozens of times in much better documented allegations, and I think we can all agree it’s vile.

But I doubt Biden did it. Reade has changed her story too many times and her corroboration doesn’t back her up very well. I doubt The NY Times, with its call for an investigation of the Delaware files, thinks anything will turn up there, either. They just want to put this matter to rest before November, so they can fairly turn their big guns on Trump’s 24 allegations.

This thread is totally useful for ... airing and debunking the claims against Biden. I’ve learned a lot from you guys re the new accusation that lasted all of 3 hours on Saturday (what was her name again?). Re the Reade defrauding and robbing the pregnant horse non-profit. Re Reade editing her 2019 Medium post 2 days before she came out with her different 2020 allegations. Re Reade now claiming Biden’s office fired her although she had earlier said she left because her boyfriend “pleaded” with her to join him in the Midwest.

Keep this thread open and keep this useful stuff coming!

Let's assume Biden "harassed" her - that isn't rape and that isn't assault. Also this was after the Clarence Thomas hearings, which Biden started apologizing for almost immediately after and at the time in 1993, was leading the charge towards legislation and rules around benefiting women on this issue. The context just seems like the timing would be ridiculously bizarre for this to have taken place as Reade describes it.

Reade's story falls apart because she has changed it so many times. The pantyhose thing was discussed already, but there is no world where a sitting senator in 1993 fingers an aid in a public hallway.

PP here. I totally agree that Reade’s story falls apart on many grounds, including some you didn’t mention just now, like the lack of corroboration. (Her brother changing his story, for example).

I do believe sexual harassment is assault. I was pinned against a wall and physically molested and it sure felt like assault.

But again, so far Reade’s claim that Biden did this is not credible.

Being pinned against a wall and physically molested is absolutely sexual assault. Sexual harassment is not sexual assault.

Exactly this. Astonishing that the very same people who called an act of groping "sexual assault" are now insisting that being ACTUALLY PHYSICALLY MOLESTED is not sexual assault. Very, very interesting.

You’re an exhausting twit. This issue was discussed pages ago and at the end everyone agreed it was sexual assault.

What is this? Cleaning up the thread with endless trash until everyone gets tired and forgets you lost every argument?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:80 pages on the other thread and 44 plus here doesn't matter. What matters is that oral sex isnt sex.

And what Biden is accused of isn’t sex either. End of story.

I disagree, it’s sexual harassment by someone in power, even if it doesn’t meet some state’s formal definition of “rape.” Donnie the Groper has done similar things dozens of times in much better documented allegations, and I think we can all agree it’s vile.

But I doubt Biden did it. Reade has changed her story too many times and her corroboration doesn’t back her up very well. I doubt The NY Times, with its call for an investigation of the Delaware files, thinks anything will turn up there, either. They just want to put this matter to rest before November, so they can fairly turn their big guns on Trump’s 24 allegations.

This thread is totally useful for ... airing and debunking the claims against Biden. I’ve learned a lot from you guys re the new accusation that lasted all of 3 hours on Saturday (what was her name again?). Re the Reade defrauding and robbing the pregnant horse non-profit. Re Reade editing her 2019 Medium post 2 days before she came out with her different 2020 allegations. Re Reade now claiming Biden’s office fired her although she had earlier said she left because her boyfriend “pleaded” with her to join him in the Midwest.

Keep this thread open and keep this useful stuff coming!

Let's assume Biden "harassed" her - that isn't rape and that isn't assault. Also this was after the Clarence Thomas hearings, which Biden started apologizing for almost immediately after and at the time in 1993, was leading the charge towards legislation and rules around benefiting women on this issue. The context just seems like the timing would be ridiculously bizarre for this to have taken place as Reade describes it.

Reade's story falls apart because she has changed it so many times. The pantyhose thing was discussed already, but there is no world where a sitting senator in 1993 fingers an aid in a public hallway.

PP here. I totally agree that Reade’s story falls apart on many grounds, including some you didn’t mention just now, like the lack of corroboration. (Her brother changing his story, for example).

I do believe sexual harassment is assault. I was pinned against a wall and physically molested and it sure felt like assault.

But again, so far Reade’s claim that Biden did this is not credible.

Being pinned against a wall and physically molested is absolutely sexual assault. Sexual harassment is not sexual assault.

Yes, that would be assault. But until recently, that isn't what she claimed. And now, it appears that she never even filed a complaint.

So, what can I make up about you from 20 years ago with no evidence?

I don't know... try groping. That seems to have (almost) been a winning strategy.
-DP

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Anonymous wrote:80 pages on the other thread and 44 plus here doesn't matter. What matters is that oral sex isnt sex.

And what Biden is accused of isn’t sex either. End of story.

I disagree, it’s sexual harassment by someone in power, even if it doesn’t meet some state’s formal definition of “rape.” Donnie the Groper has done similar things dozens of times in much better documented allegations, and I think we can all agree it’s vile.

But I doubt Biden did it. Reade has changed her story too many times and her corroboration doesn’t back her up very well. I doubt The NY Times, with its call for an investigation of the Delaware files, thinks anything will turn up there, either. They just want to put this matter to rest before November, so they can fairly turn their big guns on Trump’s 24 allegations.

This thread is totally useful for ... airing and debunking the claims against Biden. I’ve learned a lot from you guys re the new accusation that lasted all of 3 hours on Saturday (what was her name again?). Re the Reade defrauding and robbing the pregnant horse non-profit. Re Reade editing her 2019 Medium post 2 days before she came out with her different 2020 allegations. Re Reade now claiming Biden’s office fired her although she had earlier said she left because her boyfriend “pleaded” with her to join him in the Midwest.

Keep this thread open and keep this useful stuff coming!

Let's assume Biden "harassed" her - that isn't rape and that isn't assault. Also this was after the Clarence Thomas hearings, which Biden started apologizing for almost immediately after and at the time in 1993, was leading the charge towards legislation and rules around benefiting women on this issue. The context just seems like the timing would be ridiculously bizarre for this to have taken place as Reade describes it.

Reade's story falls apart because she has changed it so many times. The pantyhose thing was discussed already, but there is no world where a sitting senator in 1993 fingers an aid in a public hallway.

PP here. I totally agree that Reade’s story falls apart on many grounds, including some you didn’t mention just now, like the lack of corroboration. (Her brother changing his story, for example).

I do believe sexual harassment is assault. I was pinned against a wall and physically molested and it sure felt like assault.

But again, so far Reade’s claim that Biden did this is not credible.

Being pinned against a wall and physically molested is absolutely sexual assault. Sexual harassment is not sexual assault.

Exactly this. Astonishing that the very same people who called an act of groping "sexual assault" are now insisting that being ACTUALLY PHYSICALLY MOLESTED is not sexual assault. Very, very interesting.

What’s “very, very interesting” is that Reade complained only of sexual harassment a year ago and now claims it was sexual assault. They’re very different, as you noted.

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:80 pages on the other thread and 44 plus here doesn't matter. What matters is that oral sex isnt sex.

And what Biden is accused of isn’t sex either. End of story.

I disagree, it’s sexual harassment by someone in power, even if it doesn’t meet some state’s formal definition of “rape.” Donnie the Groper has done similar things dozens of times in much better documented allegations, and I think we can all agree it’s vile.

But I doubt Biden did it. Reade has changed her story too many times and her corroboration doesn’t back her up very well. I doubt The NY Times, with its call for an investigation of the Delaware files, thinks anything will turn up there, either. They just want to put this matter to rest before November, so they can fairly turn their big guns on Trump’s 24 allegations.

This thread is totally useful for ... airing and debunking the claims against Biden. I’ve learned a lot from you guys re the new accusation that lasted all of 3 hours on Saturday (what was her name again?). Re the Reade defrauding and robbing the pregnant horse non-profit. Re Reade editing her 2019 Medium post 2 days before she came out with her different 2020 allegations. Re Reade now claiming Biden’s office fired her although she had earlier said she left because her boyfriend “pleaded” with her to join him in the Midwest.

Keep this thread open and keep this useful stuff coming!

Let's assume Biden "harassed" her - that isn't rape and that isn't assault. Also this was after the Clarence Thomas hearings, which Biden started apologizing for almost immediately after and at the time in 1993, was leading the charge towards legislation and rules around benefiting women on this issue. The context just seems like the timing would be ridiculously bizarre for this to have taken place as Reade describes it.

Reade's story falls apart because she has changed it so many times. The pantyhose thing was discussed already, but there is no world where a sitting senator in 1993 fingers an aid in a public hallway.

PP here. I totally agree that Reade’s story falls apart on many grounds, including some you didn’t mention just now, like the lack of corroboration. (Her brother changing his story, for example).

I do believe sexual harassment is assault. I was pinned against a wall and physically molested and it sure felt like assault.

But again, so far Reade’s claim that Biden did this is not credible.

Being pinned against a wall and physically molested is absolutely sexual assault. Sexual harassment is not sexual assault.

Yes, that would be assault. But until recently, that isn't what she claimed. And now, it appears that she never even filed a complaint.

So, what can I make up about you from 20 years ago with no evidence?

I don't know... try groping. That seems to have (almost) been a winning strategy.
-DP

Now you’re just trolling. Too bad you cons lost every argument on the thread.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:80 pages on the other thread and 44 plus here doesn't matter. What matters is that oral sex isnt sex.

And what Biden is accused of isn’t sex either. End of story.

I disagree, it’s sexual harassment by someone in power, even if it doesn’t meet some state’s formal definition of “rape.” Donnie the Groper has done similar things dozens of times in much better documented allegations, and I think we can all agree it’s vile.

But I doubt Biden did it. Reade has changed her story too many times and her corroboration doesn’t back her up very well. I doubt The NY Times, with its call for an investigation of the Delaware files, thinks anything will turn up there, either. They just want to put this matter to rest before November, so they can fairly turn their big guns on Trump’s 24 allegations.

This thread is totally useful for ... airing and debunking the claims against Biden. I’ve learned a lot from you guys re the new accusation that lasted all of 3 hours on Saturday (what was her name again?). Re the Reade defrauding and robbing the pregnant horse non-profit. Re Reade editing her 2019 Medium post 2 days before she came out with her different 2020 allegations. Re Reade now claiming Biden’s office fired her although she had earlier said she left because her boyfriend “pleaded” with her to join him in the Midwest.

Keep this thread open and keep this useful stuff coming!

Let's assume Biden "harassed" her - that isn't rape and that isn't assault. Also this was after the Clarence Thomas hearings, which Biden started apologizing for almost immediately after and at the time in 1993, was leading the charge towards legislation and rules around benefiting women on this issue. The context just seems like the timing would be ridiculously bizarre for this to have taken place as Reade describes it.

Reade's story falls apart because she has changed it so many times. The pantyhose thing was discussed already, but there is no world where a sitting senator in 1993 fingers an aid in a public hallway.

PP here. I totally agree that Reade’s story falls apart on many grounds, including some you didn’t mention just now, like the lack of corroboration. (Her brother changing his story, for example).

I do believe sexual harassment is assault. I was pinned against a wall and physically molested and it sure felt like assault.

But again, so far Reade’s claim that Biden did this is not credible.

Being pinned against a wall and physically molested is absolutely sexual assault. Sexual harassment is not sexual assault.

Exactly this. Astonishing that the very same people who called an act of groping "sexual assault" are now insisting that being ACTUALLY PHYSICALLY MOLESTED is not sexual assault. Very, very interesting.

You’re an exhausting twit. This issue was discussed pages ago and at the end everyone agreed it was sexual assault.

What is this? Cleaning up the thread with endless trash until everyone gets tired and forgets you lost every argument?

WTF are you talking about? Several people have loftily suggested that what Biden is accused of *wasn't* sexual assault. Which is utter BS. And speaking of "exhausting twits," please run along.

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Shocking alternative! These deadenders aren’t actually Democrats, and they used Bernie as a vehicle, not actually supporters. They’re Green-disaffiliated-bombthrower-malcontents-trolls. That frame explains literally everything from 2016 forward.

Pp here. Yep, this has totally occurred to me.

Also that these could be Cons pretending to impersonate Dems. Just the other week a Con was pretending to be a gun-loving Dem and only outed himself when he got outraged that someone called Fox “faux.” I even mentioned this in a Website Feedback thread and the con, who was also participating there, didn’t bother to deny it in front of the moderator.

I’ve been tempted to ask the moderator about this poster. I’m sure he doesn’t want paid con social media operatives on his site. But there’s an equally good chance that this pp, like Tara, is just a disappointed Bernie Bro or Green flame-thrower who thinks undermining democracy is OK so long as it’s within the Dem party.

Weird that nobody has come on to deny this. “I’m not a con/green/Bernie Bro! I’m just a regular Dem, just like you, who’s concerned about the future of my party.”

Weird that you haven't noticed that people who HAVE said just that and been shot down by those of you insisting they couldn't possibly be "just a regular Dem" if they didn't want Biden as the candidate. Plenty of "regular Dems" think Biden is a poor choice. Deal with it.