2 Year Old Dragged into Water by Gator at Disney Resort

[Anonymous]

Example of signs on Cape Cod in this Boston Globe article. Note the level of detail:

https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2015/08/14/least-great-whites-spotted-off-chatham-coast/bmyynfqhGQPs2Pjd62b1TL/story.html

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Anonymous wrote:Orlando here. I have a pond near my home with 5 baby alligators. They're everywhere. Hilton head has alligator signs literally everywhere and Disney has none.

Hilton Head?! I may never go to the beach again. Looked up the habitat and NC isn't safe either apparently.



I mean, call me stupid but I just had no idea they roamed the Carolina beach areas too.

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Anonymous wrote:How have they not found the boy yet?

The ugly truth is that the Gator may have eaten him. They don't normally actually eat people - the bite can kill, but they rarely actually eat people - but this was a small child.

I'm amazed at the people asking how a Gator got into the lagoon. We have two gators (that I know of) in the man made retention pond in our back yard. Wildlife control will relocate them when they reach 6 feet. Every house on our lake has kids. The kids are outside all the time and know not to play in the water. I worry more about the water moccasins than about the gators.

It's been said so many times in this thread - In Florida you assume all fresh water has gators.

You sound like you are in Florida or somewhere else in the South. When will you understand that the rest of the world is NOT the South and thus we do not have the same concerns? How about this: we do not understand why you cannot drive in the snow. Huh? Why can't you? Why? Why? Why? Any smart person with a brain in their head should be able to do it. Why can't you?

Do you get it now???????

PPP might be in the south, but she is the face of a jury pool, if there is a trial. It is a question that all the jurors would wonder about.

Please, this won't go to trial. Disney doesn't want the headlines.

They'll settle quickly and quietly. I would bet that the Disney legal team is putting together an initial offer and non-disclosure agreement right now.

It's already all over CNN, FOx, MSNBC, CNBC, BBC, Al Jazeer, Facebook, Twitter, NY Times, Orlando, Sentinel, WAsh Post, Dailymail, etc. What Headlines will they avoid?

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Anonymous wrote:I don't understand this mindset that if something bad happens to you unexpectedly you feel entitled that someone should have predicted it and prevented it for you.

+1000. This is what's wrong with America. Should Disney have posted signs warning about alligators? Probably. But who is ultimately responsible for this tragedy? The parents who allowed their 2 y/o to wade/swim in 12 inches of water at 9:30 despite the "No swimming" signs. The average 2 y/o is about 2 feet & this child was in 1 foot of water at night. Of course something tragic could happen. Unfortunately, it did and the child paid the ultimate consequence. I don't understand how anyone could think Disney is responsible for this.

Wrong. Some activities are defined as an "ultrahazardous activity", in which the company will be held strictly liable. This is one example.

Lol! This is NOT an ultrahazardous activity. If you did go to law school, you certainly failed torts.

It is quite reasonable to believe alligators can be in waters in their native region. Disney failed to protect their customers. Period.

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Anonymous wrote:Orlando here. I have a pond near my home with 5 baby alligators. They're everywhere. Hilton head has alligator signs literally everywhere and Disney has none.

Hilton Head?! I may never go to the beach again. Looked up the habitat and NC isn't safe either apparently.



I mean, call me stupid but I just had no idea they roamed the Carolina beach areas too.

I was at Middleton Plantation where there three man-made ponds. Signs said alligators present. Saw two sunning themselves on the shore.

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Heartbreaking. Disturbing that Disney did not post warning signs nor did it have barriers to the water.

They should be heavily sued.

This saga made me realize just how many Disney movies have alligators: Peter Pan, Fantasia, The Princess and the Frog, ... full list: http://disney.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Alligators

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Anonymous wrote:Florida is filled with beautiful yet very deceiving housing developments that are practically built in the middle of swampland. The alligators will show up at some point, guaranteed. I lived there for a few years. You'd be surprised where you'd find them. Crossing highways, hanging out in overflow ditches next stripmalls, right on the side of the road. Disney should have known better. Nothing wrong with leaving a "Welcome to Florida, now please stay safe" leaflet in every hotel room.

A lot more of these alligators are going to start winding up dead, for reasons unknown other than a small caliber bullet through their heads. Bet on it.

That's not really how it works in Florida. We've got plenty of guns, but people also respect alligators here.

From the stories that have come out, it does sound like Disney did an inadequate job of warning people about why it's dangerous to swim in their lakes and lagoons. The kid shouldn't have been out that far, but it seems reasonable people from Nebraska wouldn't really understand the actual dangers.

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Anonymous wrote:Re: the discussion of possible lawsuits -- I'm curious whether surrounding resorts and attractions post alligator warnings? If it is standard practice, it's going to look bad on Disney.

Also, surrounding bystanders could claim emotional distress. I think it's reasonable to suffer distress from witnessing or being in close proximity to the immediate fall out of this event. I've only read about it and am really upset thinking about it. I imagine those who were there when it happened are suffering some sort of distress as well.

I believe they have to show Disney intended to cause them emotional distress. Heck, if all a bystander has to do is claim they were emotionally distressed by an event, everybody would eventually get paid at some point in life.

Florida recognizes negligent infliction of emotional distress in some cases. There might be a claim there for the parents, because they were involved in defending the child from attack. It is unlikely that the bystanders will have a claim.

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Anonymous wrote:How have they not found the boy yet?

The ugly truth is that the Gator may have eaten him. They don't normally actually eat people - the bite can kill, but they rarely actually eat people - but this was a small child.

I'm amazed at the people asking how a Gator got into the lagoon. We have two gators (that I know of) in the man made retention pond in our back yard. Wildlife control will relocate them when they reach 6 feet. Every house on our lake has kids. The kids are outside all the time and know not to play in the water. I worry more about the water moccasins than about the gators.

It's been said so many times in this thread - In Florida you assume all fresh water has gators.

You sound like you are in Florida or somewhere else in the South. When will you understand that the rest of the world is NOT the South and thus we do not have the same concerns? How about this: we do not understand why you cannot drive in the snow. Huh? Why can't you? Why? Why? Why? Any smart person with a brain in their head should be able to do it. Why can't you?

Do you get it now???????

PPP might be in the south, but she is the face of a jury pool, if there is a trial. It is a question that all the jurors would wonder about.

Please, this won't go to trial. Disney doesn't want the headlines.

They'll settle quickly and quietly. I would bet that the Disney legal team is putting together an initial offer and non-disclosure agreement right now.

It's already all over CNN, FOx, MSNBC, CNBC, BBC, Al Jazeer, Facebook, Twitter, NY Times, Orlando, Sentinel, WAsh Post, Dailymail, etc. What Headlines will they avoid?

Oh, and almost 50 pages of DCUM. If you google Disney and goat, DCUM will show up.

[Anonymous]

Disney is wonderful at rug sweeping. It's going to be hard now.

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These assholes at Disney don't like gator signs. Well, look you idiots. A child is dead.

Gotta agree. What everyone seems to be missing is that the lack of signage was not likely an oversight by Disney, but a deliberate decision not to post such signs and introduce the reality of scary gators/risks into a tightly-scripted artificial environment. They made the choice, it worked well for them for decades. Now it did not and they are responsible for the costs.

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The poor parents...I can't even imagine the sheer horror. They in NO WAY are at fault. Anyone who says otherwise better bear in mind that karma is a bitc*?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:How have they not found the boy yet?

The ugly truth is that the Gator may have eaten him. They don't normally actually eat people - the bite can kill, but they rarely actually eat people - but this was a small child.

I'm amazed at the people asking how a Gator got into the lagoon. We have two gators (that I know of) in the man made retention pond in our back yard. Wildlife control will relocate them when they reach 6 feet. Every house on our lake has kids. The kids are outside all the time and know not to play in the water. I worry more about the water moccasins than about the gators.

It's been said so many times in this thread - In Florida you assume all fresh water has gators.

You sound like you are in Florida or somewhere else in the South. When will you understand that the rest of the world is NOT the South and thus we do not have the same concerns? How about this: we do not understand why you cannot drive in the snow. Huh? Why can't you? Why? Why? Why? Any smart person with a brain in their head should be able to do it. Why can't you?

Do you get it now???????

PPP might be in the south, but she is the face of a jury pool, if there is a trial. It is a question that all the jurors would wonder about.

Please, this won't go to trial. Disney doesn't want the headlines.

They'll settle quickly and quietly. I would bet that the Disney legal team is putting together an initial offer and non-disclosure agreement right now.

It's already all over CNN, FOx, MSNBC, CNBC, BBC, Al Jazeer, Facebook, Twitter, NY Times, Orlando, Sentinel, WAsh Post, Dailymail, etc. What Headlines will they avoid?

Oh, and almost 50 pages of DCUM. If you google Disney and goat, DCUM will show up.

Just so you know, your google return searches are influenced by sites you visit which is why DCUM shows up for you. For someone who has never visited this site it might not, or would definitely be many pages back if it did.

[Anonymous]

By the way, Disney does water sports too. They also have new bungalows built over the water where the child was killed.

[Anonymous]

They're also building cabins by the water.