Class of '26 Instagram College Decisions

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This board is turning into YBM with the uncivilized troll. I think we can criticize schools without calling kids idiots. What is wrong with this poster? I don't understand.

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Anonymous wrote:The Trevor hater is back to derail all conversations that mention it. Please go away.

It is on par with some of the other schools mentioned. Many very successful families choose these schools for a variety of reasons. And top kids at these schools do just as well as kids at TT schools. And often have a happier four years of HS doing so.

Not that I primarily focus on HS.

The top 10% of Trevor is not doing just as well as HM or Dalton.

are the trevor kids less intelligent, driven, motivated? or is it the teaching? or is it all about the parents $$, hooks etc?

Most the intelligence and drive. There is more money at HM and the like but there’s enough at Trevor. The Trevor students just aren’t up to snuff even with large gifts to universities.

Wondering this as well. What happens if an intelligent, driven, motivated kid attends Trevor? Do they not end up in the same place as if they went to HM?

They’ll have a marginally worse outcome. Iron sharpens iron. Being around unintelligent peers weighs down your growth.

what specifically can you shares about Trevor that causes your concerns?

Please don't encourage them. Somehow Trevor made them angry so they have this horrible hatred towards the school. Trevor has its pros and cons. They go overboard on the cons. Top kids there do very well. Overall outcomes don't compare to TT, but a top kid has a very good chance at an Ivy. And will have four less stressful years of HS. One can better argue about the benefits of the lower school program but it is still not as bad as this person makes it out to be.

i'd like to hear their points on Trevor. Hopefully they can make a solid argument for why they don't like it.

Trust me. They can't. And note that I am not president of Trevor's fan club. It isn't perfect. One can constructively say negative things about it. But this clown's visceral hatred of it just destroys all reasonable discussion. It is not OK to feel that kind of childish hatred towards anything (other than maybe Donald Trump and anchovies).

I'm out. Not sure why I am wasting my time.

what is the reason for their hatred of Trevor?

At least with the B parent we know the main reasons they do not like B. we might disagree on whether or not it's systemic there - but at least we have some context and some actual facts about the school.

saying Trevor sucks and ROI isn't good is pretty detailed enough.

It’s matriculation and scores are terrible for the price. Especially when great publics are next door on the UWS and UES. There’s simply no justification for it.

Small class sizes, more interesting curriculum, better lunch, the list goes on and on.

and for many people it's not $1mm. it's $300 to 500k depending on whether they start in MS or HS.

our DD BFF will attend there in HS after doing MS/ES in public. They are happy.

Sorry your daughter is friends with an idiot

She's not a rocket scientist but she's not an idiot.

She's someone who did great in public school but doesn't want to go to a specialized school. Wants to have a nice high school experience. Not shooting for an elite college, a top 50 school would be a great outcome.

Sounds lovely, people here lose sight on the bigger picture and are obsessed over status and money.

she's a lovely girl and frankly she will do extremely well in life. She's personable, outgoing, fun, smart enough. Her parents are solidly upper middle class manhattan folks, so they don't do the whole ROI thing for a 300k expenditure on education.

she's kind of the person that is the boss of the really intelligent person who doesn't have the social skills. maybe a first generation person who feels like they should be the boss but they are being held back by the man.

Solidly upper middle class means the ROI matters a lot more than if they had F U Money.

Not really. $300k doesn't really impact solidly upper middle class people. It's a 1x expense that runs thru the P&L for 4 years. say Net worth $5MM making $500k a year. you tighten the belt for 4 years and make it work. Maybe the grandparents help pay a portion of the expense.

Or like most parents you have been thinking about HS/college for a while and saving up $20-25k a year for it for many years

It’s not rich or upper class, the financial profile you provided is more than upper middle class, even for NYC. There’s people making high six low seven figures doing worse than that.

Inheritance goes a long way the earlier you recieve it. You can still be UMC, but doing better than others due to the money you recieved after getting married and/or having a child.

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Anonymous wrote:The Trevor hater is back to derail all conversations that mention it. Please go away.

It is on par with some of the other schools mentioned. Many very successful families choose these schools for a variety of reasons. And top kids at these schools do just as well as kids at TT schools. And often have a happier four years of HS doing so.

Not that I primarily focus on HS.

The top 10% of Trevor is not doing just as well as HM or Dalton.

are the trevor kids less intelligent, driven, motivated? or is it the teaching? or is it all about the parents $$, hooks etc?

Most the intelligence and drive. There is more money at HM and the like but there’s enough at Trevor. The Trevor students just aren’t up to snuff even with large gifts to universities.

Wondering this as well. What happens if an intelligent, driven, motivated kid attends Trevor? Do they not end up in the same place as if they went to HM?

They’ll have a marginally worse outcome. Iron sharpens iron. Being around unintelligent peers weighs down your growth.

what specifically can you shares about Trevor that causes your concerns?

Please don't encourage them. Somehow Trevor made them angry so they have this horrible hatred towards the school. Trevor has its pros and cons. They go overboard on the cons. Top kids there do very well. Overall outcomes don't compare to TT, but a top kid has a very good chance at an Ivy. And will have four less stressful years of HS. One can better argue about the benefits of the lower school program but it is still not as bad as this person makes it out to be.

i'd like to hear their points on Trevor. Hopefully they can make a solid argument for why they don't like it.

Trust me. They can't. And note that I am not president of Trevor's fan club. It isn't perfect. One can constructively say negative things about it. But this clown's visceral hatred of it just destroys all reasonable discussion. It is not OK to feel that kind of childish hatred towards anything (other than maybe Donald Trump and anchovies).

I'm out. Not sure why I am wasting my time.

what is the reason for their hatred of Trevor?

At least with the B parent we know the main reasons they do not like B. we might disagree on whether or not it's systemic there - but at least we have some context and some actual facts about the school.

saying Trevor sucks and ROI isn't good is pretty detailed enough.

It’s matriculation and scores are terrible for the price. Especially when great publics are next door on the UWS and UES. There’s simply no justification for it.

thoughts on other 2T schools or just trevor? CGPS, UNIS, Avenues? etc

Everyone knows those schools are pretty bad. At least unis and avenues serve a particular market niche and Columbia has some history behind it. All are 3T

really curious as to what is TT school in your view and 2T.

Examples:

TT: Dalton Trinity HM
2T: Poly, Riverdale, fieldston

Trevor doesn’t belong in either category

Riverdale isn't 2T. it's a TT school.

most of the SS schools (collegiate, B, S, C) have better exmissions than your TT schools

Naw, Riverdale is and has always been 2T. There are 7 TT schools -- Trinity, HM, Dalton, Collegiate, Brearley, Chapin Spence

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Anonymous wrote:The Trevor hater is back to derail all conversations that mention it. Please go away.

It is on par with some of the other schools mentioned. Many very successful families choose these schools for a variety of reasons. And top kids at these schools do just as well as kids at TT schools. And often have a happier four years of HS doing so.

Not that I primarily focus on HS.

The top 10% of Trevor is not doing just as well as HM or Dalton.

are the trevor kids less intelligent, driven, motivated? or is it the teaching? or is it all about the parents $$, hooks etc?

Most the intelligence and drive. There is more money at HM and the like but there’s enough at Trevor. The Trevor students just aren’t up to snuff even with large gifts to universities.

Wondering this as well. What happens if an intelligent, driven, motivated kid attends Trevor? Do they not end up in the same place as if they went to HM?

They’ll have a marginally worse outcome. Iron sharpens iron. Being around unintelligent peers weighs down your growth.

what specifically can you shares about Trevor that causes your concerns?

Please don't encourage them. Somehow Trevor made them angry so they have this horrible hatred towards the school. Trevor has its pros and cons. They go overboard on the cons. Top kids there do very well. Overall outcomes don't compare to TT, but a top kid has a very good chance at an Ivy. And will have four less stressful years of HS. One can better argue about the benefits of the lower school program but it is still not as bad as this person makes it out to be.

i'd like to hear their points on Trevor. Hopefully they can make a solid argument for why they don't like it.

Trust me. They can't. And note that I am not president of Trevor's fan club. It isn't perfect. One can constructively say negative things about it. But this clown's visceral hatred of it just destroys all reasonable discussion. It is not OK to feel that kind of childish hatred towards anything (other than maybe Donald Trump and anchovies).

I'm out. Not sure why I am wasting my time.

what is the reason for their hatred of Trevor?

At least with the B parent we know the main reasons they do not like B. we might disagree on whether or not it's systemic there - but at least we have some context and some actual facts about the school.

saying Trevor sucks and ROI isn't good is pretty detailed enough.

It’s matriculation and scores are terrible for the price. Especially when great publics are next door on the UWS and UES. There’s simply no justification for it.

thoughts on other 2T schools or just trevor? CGPS, UNIS, Avenues? etc

Everyone knows those schools are pretty bad. At least unis and avenues serve a particular market niche and Columbia has some history behind it. All are 3T

really curious as to what is TT school in your view and 2T.

Examples:

TT: Dalton Trinity HM
2T: Poly, Riverdale, fieldston

Trevor doesn’t belong in either category

Riverdale isn't 2T. it's a TT school.

most of the SS schools (collegiate, B, S, C) have better exmissions than your TT schools

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Hence why I said examples, not a comprehensive list. Most people don’t consider Riverdale TT, although a case can be made.

nitche has Riverdale at number 2 in the country. even if that is flawed it's definitely TT. you are silly.

There are 8 or so TT schools. Riverdale isn’t one of them. Once it’s that expansive it’s “everyone gets a trophy” territory

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Anonymous wrote:The Trevor hater is back to derail all conversations that mention it. Please go away.

It is on par with some of the other schools mentioned. Many very successful families choose these schools for a variety of reasons. And top kids at these schools do just as well as kids at TT schools. And often have a happier four years of HS doing so.

Not that I primarily focus on HS.

The top 10% of Trevor is not doing just as well as HM or Dalton.

are the trevor kids less intelligent, driven, motivated? or is it the teaching? or is it all about the parents $$, hooks etc?

Most the intelligence and drive. There is more money at HM and the like but there’s enough at Trevor. The Trevor students just aren’t up to snuff even with large gifts to universities.

Wondering this as well. What happens if an intelligent, driven, motivated kid attends Trevor? Do they not end up in the same place as if they went to HM?

They’ll have a marginally worse outcome. Iron sharpens iron. Being around unintelligent peers weighs down your growth.

what specifically can you shares about Trevor that causes your concerns?

Please don't encourage them. Somehow Trevor made them angry so they have this horrible hatred towards the school. Trevor has its pros and cons. They go overboard on the cons. Top kids there do very well. Overall outcomes don't compare to TT, but a top kid has a very good chance at an Ivy. And will have four less stressful years of HS. One can better argue about the benefits of the lower school program but it is still not as bad as this person makes it out to be.

i'd like to hear their points on Trevor. Hopefully they can make a solid argument for why they don't like it.

Trust me. They can't. And note that I am not president of Trevor's fan club. It isn't perfect. One can constructively say negative things about it. But this clown's visceral hatred of it just destroys all reasonable discussion. It is not OK to feel that kind of childish hatred towards anything (other than maybe Donald Trump and anchovies).

I'm out. Not sure why I am wasting my time.

what is the reason for their hatred of Trevor?

At least with the B parent we know the main reasons they do not like B. we might disagree on whether or not it's systemic there - but at least we have some context and some actual facts about the school.

saying Trevor sucks and ROI isn't good is pretty detailed enough.

It’s matriculation and scores are terrible for the price. Especially when great publics are next door on the UWS and UES. There’s simply no justification for it.

Using Niche = lol. Those are self reported surveys.

thoughts on other 2T schools or just trevor? CGPS, UNIS, Avenues? etc

Everyone knows those schools are pretty bad. At least unis and avenues serve a particular market niche and Columbia has some history behind it. All are 3T

really curious as to what is TT school in your view and 2T.

Examples:

TT: Dalton Trinity HM
2T: Poly, Riverdale, fieldston

Trevor doesn’t belong in either category

Riverdale isn't 2T. it's a TT school.

most of the SS schools (collegiate, B, S, C) have better exmissions than your TT schools

ni
Hence why I said examples, not a comprehensive list. Most people don’t consider Riverdale TT, although a case can be made.

nitche has Riverdale at number 2 in the country. even if that is flawed it's definitely TT. you are silly.

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Anonymous wrote:The Trevor hater is back to derail all conversations that mention it. Please go away.

It is on par with some of the other schools mentioned. Many very successful families choose these schools for a variety of reasons. And top kids at these schools do just as well as kids at TT schools. And often have a happier four years of HS doing so.

Not that I primarily focus on HS.

The top 10% of Trevor is not doing just as well as HM or Dalton.

are the trevor kids less intelligent, driven, motivated? or is it the teaching? or is it all about the parents $$, hooks etc?

Most the intelligence and drive. There is more money at HM and the like but there’s enough at Trevor. The Trevor students just aren’t up to snuff even with large gifts to universities.

Wondering this as well. What happens if an intelligent, driven, motivated kid attends Trevor? Do they not end up in the same place as if they went to HM?

They’ll have a marginally worse outcome. Iron sharpens iron. Being around unintelligent peers weighs down your growth.

what specifically can you shares about Trevor that causes your concerns?

Please don't encourage them. Somehow Trevor made them angry so they have this horrible hatred towards the school. Trevor has its pros and cons. They go overboard on the cons. Top kids there do very well. Overall outcomes don't compare to TT, but a top kid has a very good chance at an Ivy. And will have four less stressful years of HS. One can better argue about the benefits of the lower school program but it is still not as bad as this person makes it out to be.

i'd like to hear their points on Trevor. Hopefully they can make a solid argument for why they don't like it.

Trust me. They can't. And note that I am not president of Trevor's fan club. It isn't perfect. One can constructively say negative things about it. But this clown's visceral hatred of it just destroys all reasonable discussion. It is not OK to feel that kind of childish hatred towards anything (other than maybe Donald Trump and anchovies).

I'm out. Not sure why I am wasting my time.

what is the reason for their hatred of Trevor?

At least with the B parent we know the main reasons they do not like B. we might disagree on whether or not it's systemic there - but at least we have some context and some actual facts about the school.

saying Trevor sucks and ROI isn't good is pretty detailed enough.

It’s matriculation and scores are terrible for the price. Especially when great publics are next door on the UWS and UES. There’s simply no justification for it.

thoughts on other 2T schools or just trevor? CGPS, UNIS, Avenues? etc

Everyone knows those schools are pretty bad. At least unis and avenues serve a particular market niche and Columbia has some history behind it. All are 3T

really curious as to what is TT school in your view and 2T.

Examples:

TT: Dalton Trinity HM
2T: Poly, Riverdale, fieldston

Trevor doesn’t belong in either category

Riverdale isn't 2T. it's a TT school.

most of the SS schools (collegiate, B, S, C) have better exmissions than your TT schools

ni
Hence why I said examples, not a comprehensive list. Most people don’t consider Riverdale TT, although a case can be made.

nitche has Riverdale at number 2 in the country. even if that is flawed it's definitely TT. you are silly.

Using Niche = lol. Those are self reported surveys.

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Anonymous wrote:The Trevor hater is back to derail all conversations that mention it. Please go away.

It is on par with some of the other schools mentioned. Many very successful families choose these schools for a variety of reasons. And top kids at these schools do just as well as kids at TT schools. And often have a happier four years of HS doing so.

Not that I primarily focus on HS.

The top 10% of Trevor is not doing just as well as HM or Dalton.

are the trevor kids less intelligent, driven, motivated? or is it the teaching? or is it all about the parents $$, hooks etc?

Most the intelligence and drive. There is more money at HM and the like but there’s enough at Trevor. The Trevor students just aren’t up to snuff even with large gifts to universities.

Wondering this as well. What happens if an intelligent, driven, motivated kid attends Trevor? Do they not end up in the same place as if they went to HM?

They’ll have a marginally worse outcome. Iron sharpens iron. Being around unintelligent peers weighs down your growth.

what specifically can you shares about Trevor that causes your concerns?

Please don't encourage them. Somehow Trevor made them angry so they have this horrible hatred towards the school. Trevor has its pros and cons. They go overboard on the cons. Top kids there do very well. Overall outcomes don't compare to TT, but a top kid has a very good chance at an Ivy. And will have four less stressful years of HS. One can better argue about the benefits of the lower school program but it is still not as bad as this person makes it out to be.

i'd like to hear their points on Trevor. Hopefully they can make a solid argument for why they don't like it.

Trust me. They can't. And note that I am not president of Trevor's fan club. It isn't perfect. One can constructively say negative things about it. But this clown's visceral hatred of it just destroys all reasonable discussion. It is not OK to feel that kind of childish hatred towards anything (other than maybe Donald Trump and anchovies).

I'm out. Not sure why I am wasting my time.

what is the reason for their hatred of Trevor?

At least with the B parent we know the main reasons they do not like B. we might disagree on whether or not it's systemic there - but at least we have some context and some actual facts about the school.

saying Trevor sucks and ROI isn't good is pretty detailed enough.

It’s matriculation and scores are terrible for the price. Especially when great publics are next door on the UWS and UES. There’s simply no justification for it.

But you don't feel that obsessively passionate about many of its peer (or worse) schools? Just Trevor. Whatever. I think a Trevor girl stole your boyfriend back in the day and you're still bitter. Or a Trevor alum fired you. Or your kid just didn't get in.

Everyone knows what Dwight and Browning and Columbia are, 3T. There’s shilling and a gross exaggeration of Trevor here that other dumpster fires don’t have.

what are other 2T schools and what do you consider TT?

CGPS exmissions are better than Trevor i believe. From this year, Trevor has about 35% to elite or T30 type schools. CGPS has almost 50%

Why are you seeking answers and fulfillment from this person who clearly knows nothing. You seem to have battered spouse syndrome. Ignore them. Unless it is just the same person responding to their own posts. Which is a whole different syndrome.

i love discussions.

the person must know something, curious as to why. you can't be that negative toward a school just because the ROI is bad.

There are terrible schools everywhere. Few aside from Trevor and Trump University claim to be amazing and towards the top of the heap despite being a waste of money.

No one has claimed Trevor is amazing. It is just a strawman this child has set up to justify taking it down.

I don't go to an auto mechanic to get an opinion on my heart function. And I don't go to a cardiologist to get an opinion on my muffler. And I don't go to this imbecile for an opinion on schools.

Trevor is a very good but not great borderline 2T/3T school. It has been increasing in popularity and selectivity and quality of exmissions in recent years. Kids at the top of the class there go to elite schools (Ivy+). Probably not as many HYPS but still impressive and roughly comparable to most any other school. At the bottom of the scale there are some less desirable schools. The 50% kid likely is not comparable to TT. One could reasonably question the value of Trevor vs. top neighborhood public for elementary and perhaps middle school. High school in NYC is a very different animal and different people want different things, and shelling out for four years of private HS is very different than paying for private K-12. One can make a very compelling argument for choosing Trevor for high school.

There. Happy? And I did not use AI for any of that. Used the brain my momma gave me. It doesn't sugar coat Trevor but nor does it tear it down.

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Anonymous wrote:The Trevor hater is back to derail all conversations that mention it. Please go away.

It is on par with some of the other schools mentioned. Many very successful families choose these schools for a variety of reasons. And top kids at these schools do just as well as kids at TT schools. And often have a happier four years of HS doing so.

Not that I primarily focus on HS.

The top 10% of Trevor is not doing just as well as HM or Dalton.

are the trevor kids less intelligent, driven, motivated? or is it the teaching? or is it all about the parents $$, hooks etc?

Most the intelligence and drive. There is more money at HM and the like but there’s enough at Trevor. The Trevor students just aren’t up to snuff even with large gifts to universities.

Wondering this as well. What happens if an intelligent, driven, motivated kid attends Trevor? Do they not end up in the same place as if they went to HM?

They’ll have a marginally worse outcome. Iron sharpens iron. Being around unintelligent peers weighs down your growth.

what specifically can you shares about Trevor that causes your concerns?

Please don't encourage them. Somehow Trevor made them angry so they have this horrible hatred towards the school. Trevor has its pros and cons. They go overboard on the cons. Top kids there do very well. Overall outcomes don't compare to TT, but a top kid has a very good chance at an Ivy. And will have four less stressful years of HS. One can better argue about the benefits of the lower school program but it is still not as bad as this person makes it out to be.

i'd like to hear their points on Trevor. Hopefully they can make a solid argument for why they don't like it.

Trust me. They can't. And note that I am not president of Trevor's fan club. It isn't perfect. One can constructively say negative things about it. But this clown's visceral hatred of it just destroys all reasonable discussion. It is not OK to feel that kind of childish hatred towards anything (other than maybe Donald Trump and anchovies).

I'm out. Not sure why I am wasting my time.

what is the reason for their hatred of Trevor?

At least with the B parent we know the main reasons they do not like B. we might disagree on whether or not it's systemic there - but at least we have some context and some actual facts about the school.

saying Trevor sucks and ROI isn't good is pretty detailed enough.

It’s matriculation and scores are terrible for the price. Especially when great publics are next door on the UWS and UES. There’s simply no justification for it.

Small class sizes, more interesting curriculum, better lunch, the list goes on and on.

and for many people it's not $1mm. it's $300 to 500k depending on whether they start in MS or HS.

our DD BFF will attend there in HS after doing MS/ES in public. They are happy.

Sorry your daughter is friends with an idiot

She's not a rocket scientist but she's not an idiot.

She's someone who did great in public school but doesn't want to go to a specialized school. Wants to have a nice high school experience. Not shooting for an elite college, a top 50 school would be a great outcome.

Sounds lovely, people here lose sight on the bigger picture and are obsessed over status and money.

she's a lovely girl and frankly she will do extremely well in life. She's personable, outgoing, fun, smart enough. Her parents are solidly upper middle class manhattan folks, so they don't do the whole ROI thing for a 300k expenditure on education.

she's kind of the person that is the boss of the really intelligent person who doesn't have the social skills. maybe a first generation person who feels like they should be the boss but they are being held back by the man.

Solidly upper middle class means the ROI matters a lot more than if they had F U Money.

Not really. $300k doesn't really impact solidly upper middle class people. It's a 1x expense that runs thru the P&L for 4 years. say Net worth $5MM making $500k a year. you tighten the belt for 4 years and make it work. Maybe the grandparents help pay a portion of the expense.

Or like most parents you have been thinking about HS/college for a while and saving up $20-25k a year for it for many years

It’s not rich or upper class, the financial profile you provided is more than upper middle class, even for NYC. There’s people making high six low seven figures doing worse than that.

Inheritance goes a long way the earlier you recieve it. You can still be UMC, but doing better than others due to the money you recieved after getting married and/or having a child.

that's more likely family help, and yes it makes a difference

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Anonymous wrote:The Trevor hater is back to derail all conversations that mention it. Please go away.

It is on par with some of the other schools mentioned. Many very successful families choose these schools for a variety of reasons. And top kids at these schools do just as well as kids at TT schools. And often have a happier four years of HS doing so.

Not that I primarily focus on HS.

The top 10% of Trevor is not doing just as well as HM or Dalton.

are the trevor kids less intelligent, driven, motivated? or is it the teaching? or is it all about the parents $$, hooks etc?

Most the intelligence and drive. There is more money at HM and the like but there’s enough at Trevor. The Trevor students just aren’t up to snuff even with large gifts to universities.

Wondering this as well. What happens if an intelligent, driven, motivated kid attends Trevor? Do they not end up in the same place as if they went to HM?

They’ll have a marginally worse outcome. Iron sharpens iron. Being around unintelligent peers weighs down your growth.

what specifically can you shares about Trevor that causes your concerns?

Please don't encourage them. Somehow Trevor made them angry so they have this horrible hatred towards the school. Trevor has its pros and cons. They go overboard on the cons. Top kids there do very well. Overall outcomes don't compare to TT, but a top kid has a very good chance at an Ivy. And will have four less stressful years of HS. One can better argue about the benefits of the lower school program but it is still not as bad as this person makes it out to be.

i'd like to hear their points on Trevor. Hopefully they can make a solid argument for why they don't like it.

Trust me. They can't. And note that I am not president of Trevor's fan club. It isn't perfect. One can constructively say negative things about it. But this clown's visceral hatred of it just destroys all reasonable discussion. It is not OK to feel that kind of childish hatred towards anything (other than maybe Donald Trump and anchovies).

I'm out. Not sure why I am wasting my time.

what is the reason for their hatred of Trevor?

At least with the B parent we know the main reasons they do not like B. we might disagree on whether or not it's systemic there - but at least we have some context and some actual facts about the school.

saying Trevor sucks and ROI isn't good is pretty detailed enough.

It’s matriculation and scores are terrible for the price. Especially when great publics are next door on the UWS and UES. There’s simply no justification for it.

thoughts on other 2T schools or just trevor? CGPS, UNIS, Avenues? etc

Everyone knows those schools are pretty bad. At least unis and avenues serve a particular market niche and Columbia has some history behind it. All are 3T

really curious as to what is TT school in your view and 2T.

Examples:

TT: Dalton Trinity HM
2T: Poly, Riverdale, fieldston

Trevor doesn’t belong in either category

Riverdale isn't 2T. it's a TT school.

most of the SS schools (collegiate, B, S, C) have better exmissions than your TT schools

Naw, Riverdale is and has always been 2T. There are 7 TT schools -- Trinity, HM, Dalton, Collegiate, Brearley, Chapin Spence

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Anonymous wrote:This board is turning into YBM with the uncivilized troll. I think we can criticize schools without calling kids idiots. What is wrong with this poster? I don't understand.

Thank you. The lack of logins on this site really destroys it. I don't need a real name. But it is helpful to be able to tell what person A is posting vs. person B and when someone is replying to their own posts to amplify it and clutter what was a decent discussion with neurosis.

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Anonymous wrote:The Trevor hater is back to derail all conversations that mention it. Please go away.

It is on par with some of the other schools mentioned. Many very successful families choose these schools for a variety of reasons. And top kids at these schools do just as well as kids at TT schools. And often have a happier four years of HS doing so.

Not that I primarily focus on HS.

The top 10% of Trevor is not doing just as well as HM or Dalton.

are the trevor kids less intelligent, driven, motivated? or is it the teaching? or is it all about the parents $$, hooks etc?

Most the intelligence and drive. There is more money at HM and the like but there’s enough at Trevor. The Trevor students just aren’t up to snuff even with large gifts to universities.

Wondering this as well. What happens if an intelligent, driven, motivated kid attends Trevor? Do they not end up in the same place as if they went to HM?

They’ll have a marginally worse outcome. Iron sharpens iron. Being around unintelligent peers weighs down your growth.

what specifically can you shares about Trevor that causes your concerns?

Please don't encourage them. Somehow Trevor made them angry so they have this horrible hatred towards the school. Trevor has its pros and cons. They go overboard on the cons. Top kids there do very well. Overall outcomes don't compare to TT, but a top kid has a very good chance at an Ivy. And will have four less stressful years of HS. One can better argue about the benefits of the lower school program but it is still not as bad as this person makes it out to be.

i'd like to hear their points on Trevor. Hopefully they can make a solid argument for why they don't like it.

Trust me. They can't. And note that I am not president of Trevor's fan club. It isn't perfect. One can constructively say negative things about it. But this clown's visceral hatred of it just destroys all reasonable discussion. It is not OK to feel that kind of childish hatred towards anything (other than maybe Donald Trump and anchovies).

I'm out. Not sure why I am wasting my time.

what is the reason for their hatred of Trevor?

At least with the B parent we know the main reasons they do not like B. we might disagree on whether or not it's systemic there - but at least we have some context and some actual facts about the school.

saying Trevor sucks and ROI isn't good is pretty detailed enough.

It’s matriculation and scores are terrible for the price. Especially when great publics are next door on the UWS and UES. There’s simply no justification for it.

thoughts on other 2T schools or just trevor? CGPS, UNIS, Avenues? etc

Everyone knows those schools are pretty bad. At least unis and avenues serve a particular market niche and Columbia has some history behind it. All are 3T

really curious as to what is TT school in your view and 2T.

Examples:

TT: Dalton Trinity HM
2T: Poly, Riverdale, fieldston

Trevor doesn’t belong in either category

Riverdale isn't 2T. it's a TT school.

most of the SS schools (collegiate, B, S, C) have better exmissions than your TT schools

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Hence why I said examples, not a comprehensive list. Most people don’t consider Riverdale TT, although a case can be made.

nitche has Riverdale at number 2 in the country. even if that is flawed it's definitely TT. you are silly.

Using Niche = lol. Those are self reported surveys.

of the Hill schools we liked Riverdale the best.

I guess this whole breakdown of TT/2T is silly.

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Anonymous wrote:The Trevor hater is back to derail all conversations that mention it. Please go away.

It is on par with some of the other schools mentioned. Many very successful families choose these schools for a variety of reasons. And top kids at these schools do just as well as kids at TT schools. And often have a happier four years of HS doing so.

Not that I primarily focus on HS.

The top 10% of Trevor is not doing just as well as HM or Dalton.

are the trevor kids less intelligent, driven, motivated? or is it the teaching? or is it all about the parents $$, hooks etc?

Most the intelligence and drive. There is more money at HM and the like but there’s enough at Trevor. The Trevor students just aren’t up to snuff even with large gifts to universities.

Wondering this as well. What happens if an intelligent, driven, motivated kid attends Trevor? Do they not end up in the same place as if they went to HM?

They’ll have a marginally worse outcome. Iron sharpens iron. Being around unintelligent peers weighs down your growth.

what specifically can you shares about Trevor that causes your concerns?

Please don't encourage them. Somehow Trevor made them angry so they have this horrible hatred towards the school. Trevor has its pros and cons. They go overboard on the cons. Top kids there do very well. Overall outcomes don't compare to TT, but a top kid has a very good chance at an Ivy. And will have four less stressful years of HS. One can better argue about the benefits of the lower school program but it is still not as bad as this person makes it out to be.

i'd like to hear their points on Trevor. Hopefully they can make a solid argument for why they don't like it.

Trust me. They can't. And note that I am not president of Trevor's fan club. It isn't perfect. One can constructively say negative things about it. But this clown's visceral hatred of it just destroys all reasonable discussion. It is not OK to feel that kind of childish hatred towards anything (other than maybe Donald Trump and anchovies).

I'm out. Not sure why I am wasting my time.

what is the reason for their hatred of Trevor?

At least with the B parent we know the main reasons they do not like B. we might disagree on whether or not it's systemic there - but at least we have some context and some actual facts about the school.

saying Trevor sucks and ROI isn't good is pretty detailed enough.

It’s matriculation and scores are terrible for the price. Especially when great publics are next door on the UWS and UES. There’s simply no justification for it.

But you don't feel that obsessively passionate about many of its peer (or worse) schools? Just Trevor. Whatever. I think a Trevor girl stole your boyfriend back in the day and you're still bitter. Or a Trevor alum fired you. Or your kid just didn't get in.

Everyone knows what Dwight and Browning and Columbia are, 3T. There’s shilling and a gross exaggeration of Trevor here that other dumpster fires don’t have.

what are other 2T schools and what do you consider TT?

CGPS exmissions are better than Trevor i believe. From this year, Trevor has about 35% to elite or T30 type schools. CGPS has almost 50%

Why are you seeking answers and fulfillment from this person who clearly knows nothing. You seem to have battered spouse syndrome. Ignore them. Unless it is just the same person responding to their own posts. Which is a whole different syndrome.

i love discussions.

the person must know something, curious as to why. you can't be that negative toward a school just because the ROI is bad.

There are terrible schools everywhere. Few aside from Trevor and Trump University claim to be amazing and towards the top of the heap despite being a waste of money.

No one has claimed Trevor is amazing. It is just a strawman this child has set up to justify taking it down.

I don't go to an auto mechanic to get an opinion on my heart function. And I don't go to a cardiologist to get an opinion on my muffler. And I don't go to this imbecile for an opinion on schools.

Trevor is a very good but not great borderline 2T/3T school. It has been increasing in popularity and selectivity and quality of exmissions in recent years. Kids at the top of the class there go to elite schools (Ivy+). Probably not as many HYPS but still impressive and roughly comparable to most any other school. At the bottom of the scale there are some less desirable schools. The 50% kid likely is not comparable to TT. One could reasonably question the value of Trevor vs. top neighborhood public for elementary and perhaps middle school. High school in NYC is a very different animal and different people want different things, and shelling out for four years of private HS is very different than paying for private K-12. One can make a very compelling argument for choosing Trevor for high school.

There. Happy? And I did not use AI for any of that. Used the brain my momma gave me. It doesn't sugar coat Trevor but nor does it tear it down.

pretty solid review of Trevor.

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Anonymous wrote:Trevor admissions this year:

6: Cornell
5: Tulane
4: Wake Forest
3: Michigan, NYU, Syracuse, Lehigh, Rochester
2: Brown, Chicago, Penn, Emory, Rice, WashU, Wesleyan, Skidmore, Northeastern, Richmond, Florida
1: Dartmouth, Princeton, Columbia, JHU, USC, Georgetown, Tufts, UVA, Indiana, Chapman, Franklin & Marshall, Davidson, Wisconsin, Penn State, Vassar, Holy Cross, Vermont, Kenyon, BU, San Diego State, Middlebury, Morehouse, BC, Colgate, Villanova, Dickinson, Spelman, FIT, Washington & Lee, UConn, Georgia, Maryland, Fordham

Any school claiming to be 2T would have Harvard and Yale. Certainly not San Diego state and uconn

is it fair to assume your DC go to the specialized schools in NYC?

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It is on par with some of the other schools mentioned. Many very successful families choose these schools for a variety of reasons. And top kids at these schools do just as well as kids at TT schools. And often have a happier four years of HS doing so.

Not that I primarily focus on HS.

The top 10% of Trevor is not doing just as well as HM or Dalton.

are the trevor kids less intelligent, driven, motivated? or is it the teaching? or is it all about the parents $$, hooks etc?

Most the intelligence and drive. There is more money at HM and the like but there’s enough at Trevor. The Trevor students just aren’t up to snuff even with large gifts to universities.

Wondering this as well. What happens if an intelligent, driven, motivated kid attends Trevor? Do they not end up in the same place as if they went to HM?

They’ll have a marginally worse outcome. Iron sharpens iron. Being around unintelligent peers weighs down your growth.

what specifically can you shares about Trevor that causes your concerns?

Please don't encourage them. Somehow Trevor made them angry so they have this horrible hatred towards the school. Trevor has its pros and cons. They go overboard on the cons. Top kids there do very well. Overall outcomes don't compare to TT, but a top kid has a very good chance at an Ivy. And will have four less stressful years of HS. One can better argue about the benefits of the lower school program but it is still not as bad as this person makes it out to be.

i'd like to hear their points on Trevor. Hopefully they can make a solid argument for why they don't like it.

Trust me. They can't. And note that I am not president of Trevor's fan club. It isn't perfect. One can constructively say negative things about it. But this clown's visceral hatred of it just destroys all reasonable discussion. It is not OK to feel that kind of childish hatred towards anything (other than maybe Donald Trump and anchovies).

I'm out. Not sure why I am wasting my time.

what is the reason for their hatred of Trevor?

At least with the B parent we know the main reasons they do not like B. we might disagree on whether or not it's systemic there - but at least we have some context and some actual facts about the school.

saying Trevor sucks and ROI isn't good is pretty detailed enough.

It’s matriculation and scores are terrible for the price. Especially when great publics are next door on the UWS and UES. There’s simply no justification for it.

But you don't feel that obsessively passionate about many of its peer (or worse) schools? Just Trevor. Whatever. I think a Trevor girl stole your boyfriend back in the day and you're still bitter. Or a Trevor alum fired you. Or your kid just didn't get in.

Everyone knows what Dwight and Browning and Columbia are, 3T. There’s shilling and a gross exaggeration of Trevor here that other dumpster fires don’t have.

what are other 2T schools and what do you consider TT?

CGPS exmissions are better than Trevor i believe. From this year, Trevor has about 35% to elite or T30 type schools. CGPS has almost 50%

Why are you seeking answers and fulfillment from this person who clearly knows nothing. You seem to have battered spouse syndrome. Ignore them. Unless it is just the same person responding to their own posts. Which is a whole different syndrome.

i love discussions.

the person must know something, curious as to why. you can't be that negative toward a school just because the ROI is bad.

There are terrible schools everywhere. Few aside from Trevor and Trump University claim to be amazing and towards the top of the heap despite being a waste of money.

No one has claimed Trevor is amazing. It is just a strawman this child has set up to justify taking it down.

I don't go to an auto mechanic to get an opinion on my heart function. And I don't go to a cardiologist to get an opinion on my muffler. And I don't go to this imbecile for an opinion on schools.

Trevor is a very good but not great borderline 2T/3T school. It has been increasing in popularity and selectivity and quality of exmissions in recent years. Kids at the top of the class there go to elite schools (Ivy+). Probably not as many HYPS but still impressive and roughly comparable to most any other school. At the bottom of the scale there are some less desirable schools. The 50% kid likely is not comparable to TT. One could reasonably question the value of Trevor vs. top neighborhood public for elementary and perhaps middle school. High school in NYC is a very different animal and different people want different things, and shelling out for four years of private HS is very different than paying for private K-12. One can make a very compelling argument for choosing Trevor for high school.

There. Happy? And I did not use AI for any of that. Used the brain my momma gave me. It doesn't sugar coat Trevor but nor does it tear it down.

Repeatedly, on this forum and others, Trevor fanatics claim it is 2T. It is not "very good" as you say. It is not "probably not as many HYPS", it is 100% NOT as many HYPS and not comparable to 15+ private schools, let alone great publics. You can say that 2T v. 3T is nitpicking and a fixation on rankings, but if Trevor is 2T then there is effectively no 3T. If a family is dead set on spending 70k a year with a devil-may-care-about-the-outcome attitude, then by all means go to Trevor. Very few families can part with hundreds of thousands on a substandard product that gets laughed at all across the UES and UWS without caring about its reputation and (lack of) academic rigor.

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Anonymous wrote:Trevor admissions this year:

6: Cornell
5: Tulane
4: Wake Forest
3: Michigan, NYU, Syracuse, Lehigh, Rochester
2: Brown, Chicago, Penn, Emory, Rice, WashU, Wesleyan, Skidmore, Northeastern, Richmond, Florida
1: Dartmouth, Princeton, Columbia, JHU, USC, Georgetown, Tufts, UVA, Indiana, Chapman, Franklin & Marshall, Davidson, Wisconsin, Penn State, Vassar, Holy Cross, Vermont, Kenyon, BU, San Diego State, Middlebury, Morehouse, BC, Colgate, Villanova, Dickinson, Spelman, FIT, Washington & Lee, UConn, Georgia, Maryland, Fordham

Any school claiming to be 2T would have Harvard and Yale. Certainly not San Diego state and uconn

is it fair to assume your DC go to the specialized schools in NYC?

No. If it came between Trevor and a specialized public then the latter every single time. I'd invest the 70k a year in the S&P and after 13 years each kid would have a couple million to buy a house and have some leftover as a cushion. That is a much better value than the eyerolls they'd get walking around the UES in a Trevor sweatshirt.