Class of '26 Instagram College Decisions

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Anonymous wrote:More to UChicago and Duke and less to Harvard, Yale, Stanford and other Ivies.

A lot of girls from the SS schools are going into those top schools for classics, English, History…

A lot of people here seem to value those elite matriculations for the more lucrative job career opportunities they supposedly provide. By that token, wouldn’t an econ degree from Chicago or even a computer science degree from Cornell put you on a more remunerative path than an English degree from Harvard? (And yes, I undestand that a lot of those girls may never need to work a day in their lives…)

Super curious about this as well. For a long time I had assumed that the majors that are posted don't reflect what the students actually go on to major in but rather what they applied with. Had assumed that applying in as a more humanities oriented major yields higher odds of admission.

I think they represent what kids intend to go into and then sometimes they change. I was an Art History minor in college and most of the majors came from $$$.

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Anonymous wrote:Moving on - I haven't looked at some of the Coed TT schools. How have they done compared to this school? (SS TT). the $$, hooks, etc should be similar i assume.

5: Cornell, Chicago
4: Penn
3: Harvard, Northwestern
2: Princeton, Brown, Duke, Williams, Georgetown, Emory, Howard
1: Yale, Dartmouth, Amherst, Vanderbilt, Rice, Notre Dame, Michigan, Barnard, Colgate, Middlebury, Bowdoin, St Andrews, Haverford, Oberlin, Spelman, Rutgers, UCLA

I think there are very good results and they are consistent with HM. College counsellors might be recommending to save time and mental energy, ED Cornell or Chicago and be done with college admissions earlier during the year.

A caveat here is that TT kids getting into less prestigious colleges (think San Diego State) are less likely to post on Instagram but there are always a few students who end up in less popular schools.

I have a senior at HM. This is exactly what they do. These kids aren't on DCUM wringing their hands over rankings or perceived prestige . . . they are figuring out their next steps and communicating with the older kids who have had or are having good experiences at schools other than the five or so that are DCUM Approved®.

Those are both great and very prestigious places so I don’t follow what you’re saying. Having been through this at another TT though, I’m a big believer in applying where you want and not gaming things too much at the ED stage just to maximize chances of getting into a top 10 school if it’s not the school you actually want. But that requires being ok with the possibility your top choices won’t work out. In my experience though, even those kids still had great choices at RD so there’s want much opportunity cost.

NP but -- there has been a recurrent observation on this thread that while HM does remarkably well with those schools (>40 students are going to those two this year?), the rate at which is sends to HYPS is noticeably lower than Brearley etc. This may or may not be of significance to different families, but the pattern exists and it's not exactly clear what the cause of it is. If ED to Chicago etc. is what counselors regularly advise everywhere, why do we see these differences? If it's legacies mainly, why aren't they similarly distributed across all TT schools? Trinity is supposedly very big on legacies, but again, noticeable difference to Brearley. Etc. Some viewpoints on this upthread.

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Horace Mann is a much larger HS than the SS schools. Not sure how that effects exmissions.

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Anonymous wrote:Moving on - I haven't looked at some of the Coed TT schools. How have they done compared to this school? (SS TT). the $$, hooks, etc should be similar i assume.

5: Cornell, Chicago
4: Penn
3: Harvard, Northwestern
2: Princeton, Brown, Duke, Williams, Georgetown, Emory, Howard
1: Yale, Dartmouth, Amherst, Vanderbilt, Rice, Notre Dame, Michigan, Barnard, Colgate, Middlebury, Bowdoin, St Andrews, Haverford, Oberlin, Spelman, Rutgers, UCLA

I think there are very good results and they are consistent with HM. College counsellors might be recommending to save time and mental energy, ED Cornell or Chicago and be done with college admissions earlier during the year.

A caveat here is that TT kids getting into less prestigious colleges (think San Diego State) are less likely to post on Instagram but there are always a few students who end up in less popular schools.

I have a senior at HM. This is exactly what they do. These kids aren't on DCUM wringing their hands over rankings or perceived prestige . . . they are figuring out their next steps and communicating with the older kids who have had or are having good experiences at schools other than the five or so that are DCUM Approved®.

Those are both great and very prestigious places so I don’t follow what you’re saying. Having been through this at another TT though, I’m a big believer in applying where you want and not gaming things too much at the ED stage just to maximize chances of getting into a top 10 school if it’s not the school you actually want. But that requires being ok with the possibility your top choices won’t work out. In my experience though, even those kids still had great choices at RD so there’s want much opportunity cost.

NP but -- there has been a recurrent observation on this thread that while HM does remarkably well with those schools (>40 students are going to those two this year?), the rate at which is sends to HYPS is noticeably lower than Brearley etc. This may or may not be of significance to different families, but the pattern exists and it's not exactly clear what the cause of it is. If ED to Chicago etc. is what counselors regularly advise everywhere, why do we see these differences? If it's legacies mainly, why aren't they similarly distributed across all TT schools? Trinity is supposedly very big on legacies, but again, noticeable difference to Brearley. Etc. Some viewpoints on this upthread.

Second this observation. People seem to think that the quality of education is not significantly different yet the outcomes at Spence and Brearley at least in the last 2 years seem significantly better than HM and Trinity. Either that assumption is not true or the college counseling at the latter are worse. Perhaps having a class size that's half the size proves to be an advantage?

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A humanities professor of mine who was from France sent his kids to U of Chicago because he said it was by far the best actual education in America (early 2000s). Sounds like part of that is that they focus on kids who want the program vs kids who game the system to get in. Just an anecdote.

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Anonymous wrote:More to UChicago and Duke and less to Harvard, Yale, Stanford and other Ivies.

A lot of girls from the SS schools are going into those top schools for classics, English, History…

A lot of people here seem to value those elite matriculations for the more lucrative job career opportunities they supposedly provide. By that token, wouldn’t an econ degree from Chicago or even a computer science degree from Cornell put you on a more remunerative path than an English degree from Harvard? (And yes, I understand that a lot of those girls may never need to work a day in their lives…)

Super curious about this as well. For a long time I had assumed that the majors that are posted don't reflect what the students actually go on to major in but rather what they applied with. Had assumed that applying in as a more humanities oriented major yields higher odds of admission.

You can make a lot of money from a lot of schools if that's what you care about, and plenty of humanities majors also go on to lucrative careers in finance etc. But no one's going to switch from English to engineering if the latter is not their thing.

And then a lot these differences between the placements comes down to ED strategy rather than the school or the students. The thing about Chicago is that it's just as good as the ivies etc., but they have a "we just want the smartest kids" kind of admissions philosophy that leads them to take larger numbers of students from the top NYC privates provided they apply early. So at some high schools, large numbers of students are committing to Chicago before hearing from ivies etc. where they also would have a had a good shot had they stayed in the running. And then at other schools, you don't see that ED pattern with Chicago, and a lot of students are still doing well in RD.

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(Humanities at Harvard — said U of Chicago students were more intellectual and focused).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Moving on - I haven't looked at some of the Coed TT schools. How have they done compared to this school? (SS TT). the $$, hooks, etc should be similar i assume.

5: Cornell, Chicago
4: Penn
3: Harvard, Northwestern
2: Princeton, Brown, Duke, Williams, Georgetown, Emory, Howard
1: Yale, Dartmouth, Amherst, Vanderbilt, Rice, Notre Dame, Michigan, Barnard, Colgate, Middlebury, Bowdoin, St Andrews, Haverford, Oberlin, Spelman, Rutgers, UCLA

I think there are very good results and they are consistent with HM. College counsellors might be recommending to save time and mental energy, ED Cornell or Chicago and be done with college admissions earlier during the year.

A caveat here is that TT kids getting into less prestigious colleges (think San Diego State) are less likely to post on Instagram but there are always a few students who end up in less popular schools.

I have a senior at HM. This is exactly what they do. These kids aren't on DCUM wringing their hands over rankings or perceived prestige . . . they are figuring out their next steps and communicating with the older kids who have had or are having good experiences at schools other than the five or so that are DCUM Approved®.

Those are both great and very prestigious places so I don’t follow what you’re saying. Having been through this at another TT though, I’m a big believer in applying where you want and not gaming things too much at the ED stage just to maximize chances of getting into a top 10 school if it’s not the school you actually want. But that requires being ok with the possibility your top choices won’t work out. In my experience though, even those kids still had great choices at RD so there’s want much opportunity cost.

NP but -- there has been a recurrent observation on this thread that while HM does remarkably well with those schools (>40 students are going to those two this year?), the rate at which is sends to HYPS is noticeably lower than Brearley etc. This may or may not be of significance to different families, but the pattern exists and it's not exactly clear what the cause of it is. If ED to Chicago etc. is what counselors regularly advise everywhere, why do we see these differences? If it's legacies mainly, why aren't they similarly distributed across all TT schools? Trinity is supposedly very big on legacies, but again, noticeable difference to Brearley. Etc. Some viewpoints on this upthread.

Traditionally Brearley has been the training ground for young ambitious ladies from prestigious families. The most connected and wealthy families send their children to Brearley. If I am merely rich and have no connections to a T50 university, I can get my dc into HM fairly easy. Many wealthy and famous people have had to pull favors to get their child into Brearley.

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My guess is that with less slots available they can be more selective. They also may take kids who are *gasp* not into Ivies for whatever reason (want to meet a different group of people than an east coast, quants, etc). Brearley really attracts parents who are Ivy League or bust whether or not their kids are right for it. It’s also just a more insular group of parents in general.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Moving on - I haven't looked at some of the Coed TT schools. How have they done compared to this school? (SS TT). the $$, hooks, etc should be similar i assume.

5: Cornell, Chicago
4: Penn
3: Harvard, Northwestern
2: Princeton, Brown, Duke, Williams, Georgetown, Emory, Howard
1: Yale, Dartmouth, Amherst, Vanderbilt, Rice, Notre Dame, Michigan, Barnard, Colgate, Middlebury, Bowdoin, St Andrews, Haverford, Oberlin, Spelman, Rutgers, UCLA

I think there are very good results and they are consistent with HM. College counsellors might be recommending to save time and mental energy, ED Cornell or Chicago and be done with college admissions earlier during the year.

A caveat here is that TT kids getting into less prestigious colleges (think San Diego State) are less likely to post on Instagram but there are always a few students who end up in less popular schools.

I have a senior at HM. This is exactly what they do. These kids aren't on DCUM wringing their hands over rankings or perceived prestige . . . they are figuring out their next steps and communicating with the older kids who have had or are having good experiences at schools other than the five or so that are DCUM Approved®.

Those are both great and very prestigious places so I don’t follow what you’re saying. Having been through this at another TT though, I’m a big believer in applying where you want and not gaming things too much at the ED stage just to maximize chances of getting into a top 10 school if it’s not the school you actually want. But that requires being ok with the possibility your top choices won’t work out. In my experience though, even those kids still had great choices at RD so there’s want much opportunity cost.

NP but -- there has been a recurrent observation on this thread that while HM does remarkably well with those schools (>40 students are going to those two this year?), the rate at which is sends to HYPS is noticeably lower than Brearley etc. This may or may not be of significance to different families, but the pattern exists and it's not exactly clear what the cause of it is. If ED to Chicago etc. is what counselors regularly advise everywhere, why do we see these differences? If it's legacies mainly, why aren't they similarly distributed across all TT schools? Trinity is supposedly very big on legacies, but again, noticeable difference to Brearley. Etc. Some viewpoints on this upthread.

Second this observation. People seem to think that the quality of education is not significantly different yet the outcomes at Spence and Brearley at least in the last 2 years seem significantly better than HM and Trinity. Either that assumption is not true or the college counseling at the latter are worse. Perhaps having a class size that's half the size proves to be an advantage?

[Anonymous]

By insular, I mean UES. There are people from other places in the city, but the social culture of the place is very UES as is the Mom culture, as is the expected educational outcome. It may just be more kids are into the Ivy brand than a school with kids from all over the city.

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“Fairly easy”? Cmon now, let’s not be silly

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Moving on - I haven't looked at some of the Coed TT schools. How have they done compared to this school? (SS TT). the $$, hooks, etc should be similar i assume.

5: Cornell, Chicago
4: Penn
3: Harvard, Northwestern
2: Princeton, Brown, Duke, Williams, Georgetown, Emory, Howard
1: Yale, Dartmouth, Amherst, Vanderbilt, Rice, Notre Dame, Michigan, Barnard, Colgate, Middlebury, Bowdoin, St Andrews, Haverford, Oberlin, Spelman, Rutgers, UCLA

I think there are very good results and they are consistent with HM. College counsellors might be recommending to save time and mental energy, ED Cornell or Chicago and be done with college admissions earlier during the year.

A caveat here is that TT kids getting into less prestigious colleges (think San Diego State) are less likely to post on Instagram but there are always a few students who end up in less popular schools.

I have a senior at HM. This is exactly what they do. These kids aren't on DCUM wringing their hands over rankings or perceived prestige . . . they are figuring out their next steps and communicating with the older kids who have had or are having good experiences at schools other than the five or so that are DCUM Approved®.

Those are both great and very prestigious places so I don’t follow what you’re saying. Having been through this at another TT though, I’m a big believer in applying where you want and not gaming things too much at the ED stage just to maximize chances of getting into a top 10 school if it’s not the school you actually want. But that requires being ok with the possibility your top choices won’t work out. In my experience though, even those kids still had great choices at RD so there’s want much opportunity cost.

NP but -- there has been a recurrent observation on this thread that while HM does remarkably well with those schools (>40 students are going to those two this year?), the rate at which is sends to HYPS is noticeably lower than Brearley etc. This may or may not be of significance to different families, but the pattern exists and it's not exactly clear what the cause of it is. If ED to Chicago etc. is what counselors regularly advise everywhere, why do we see these differences? If it's legacies mainly, why aren't they similarly distributed across all TT schools? Trinity is supposedly very big on legacies, but again, noticeable difference to Brearley. Etc. Some viewpoints on this upthread.

Traditionally Brearley has been the training ground for young ambitious ladies from prestigious families. The most connected and wealthy families send their children to Brearley. If I am merely rich and have no connections to a T50 university, I can get my dc into HM fairly easy. Many wealthy and famous people have had to pull favors to get their child into Brearley.

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Anonymous wrote:By insular, I mean UES. There are people from other places in the city, but the social culture of the place is very UES as is the Mom culture, as is the expected educational outcome. It may just be more kids are into the Ivy brand than a school with kids from all over the city.

Not sure if I buy that as the differentiator in college outcomes. Trinity is supposed to explicitly select for legacy parents at K and recruit top of the top ringers for half their class coming in for 9th grade.

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Anonymous wrote:By insular, I mean UES. There are people from other places in the city, but the social culture of the place is very UES as is the Mom culture, as is the expected educational outcome. It may just be more kids are into the Ivy brand than a school with kids from all over the city.

Not sure if I buy that as the differentiator in college outcomes. Trinity is supposed to explicitly select for legacy parents at K and recruit top of the top ringers for half their class coming in for 9th grade.

Trinity has the fair share of Ivy and other elite/top25 schools.

But given it's size it also has a few of the SMU/Tulanes each year.

This year some not typical state schools show up - U Maryland, U Miss, Colorado State.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Moving on - I haven't looked at some of the Coed TT schools. How have they done compared to this school? (SS TT). the $$, hooks, etc should be similar i assume.

5: Cornell, Chicago
4: Penn
3: Harvard, Northwestern
2: Princeton, Brown, Duke, Williams, Georgetown, Emory, Howard
1: Yale, Dartmouth, Amherst, Vanderbilt, Rice, Notre Dame, Michigan, Barnard, Colgate, Middlebury, Bowdoin, St Andrews, Haverford, Oberlin, Spelman, Rutgers, UCLA

I think there are very good results and they are consistent with HM. College counsellors might be recommending to save time and mental energy, ED Cornell or Chicago and be done with college admissions earlier during the year.

A caveat here is that TT kids getting into less prestigious colleges (think San Diego State) are less likely to post on Instagram but there are always a few students who end up in less popular schools.

I have a senior at HM. This is exactly what they do. These kids aren't on DCUM wringing their hands over rankings or perceived prestige . . . they are figuring out their next steps and communicating with the older kids who have had or are having good experiences at schools other than the five or so that are DCUM Approved®.

Those are both great and very prestigious places so I don’t follow what you’re saying. Having been through this at another TT though, I’m a big believer in applying where you want and not gaming things too much at the ED stage just to maximize chances of getting into a top 10 school if it’s not the school you actually want. But that requires being ok with the possibility your top choices won’t work out. In my experience though, even those kids still had great choices at RD so there’s want much opportunity cost.

NP but -- there has been a recurrent observation on this thread that while HM does remarkably well with those schools (>40 students are going to those two this year?), the rate at which is sends to HYPS is noticeably lower than Brearley etc. This may or may not be of significance to different families, but the pattern exists and it's not exactly clear what the cause of it is. If ED to Chicago etc. is what counselors regularly advise everywhere, why do we see these differences? If it's legacies mainly, why aren't they similarly distributed across all TT schools? Trinity is supposedly very big on legacies, but again, noticeable difference to Brearley. Etc. Some viewpoints on this upthread.

Traditionally Brearley has been the training ground for young ambitious ladies from prestigious families. The most connected and wealthy families send their children to Brearley. If I am merely rich and have no connections to a T50 university, I can get my dc into HM fairly easy. Many wealthy and famous people have had to pull favors to get their child into Brearley.

This year Spence seems to be on par with Brearley and all the SS schools seem to do better than the COED schools.

Hooks or not, 45% of the class is going to an Ivy. That doesn't include all the other amazing schools like MIT, Chicago, Williams etc.

I don't think there are going to be too many better day schools than B & S across the country.

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Anonymous wrote:“Fairly easy”? Cmon now, let’s not be silly

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Moving on - I haven't looked at some of the Coed TT schools. How have they done compared to this school? (SS TT). the $$, hooks, etc should be similar i assume.

5: Cornell, Chicago
4: Penn
3: Harvard, Northwestern
2: Princeton, Brown, Duke, Williams, Georgetown, Emory, Howard
1: Yale, Dartmouth, Amherst, Vanderbilt, Rice, Notre Dame, Michigan, Barnard, Colgate, Middlebury, Bowdoin, St Andrews, Haverford, Oberlin, Spelman, Rutgers, UCLA

I think there are very good results and they are consistent with HM. College counsellors might be recommending to save time and mental energy, ED Cornell or Chicago and be done with college admissions earlier during the year.

A caveat here is that TT kids getting into less prestigious colleges (think San Diego State) are less likely to post on Instagram but there are always a few students who end up in less popular schools.

I have a senior at HM. This is exactly what they do. These kids aren't on DCUM wringing their hands over rankings or perceived prestige . . . they are figuring out their next steps and communicating with the older kids who have had or are having good experiences at schools other than the five or so that are DCUM Approved®.

Those are both great and very prestigious places so I don’t follow what you’re saying. Having been through this at another TT though, I’m a big believer in applying where you want and not gaming things too much at the ED stage just to maximize chances of getting into a top 10 school if it’s not the school you actually want. But that requires being ok with the possibility your top choices won’t work out. In my experience though, even those kids still had great choices at RD so there’s want much opportunity cost.

NP but -- there has been a recurrent observation on this thread that while HM does remarkably well with those schools (>40 students are going to those two this year?), the rate at which is sends to HYPS is noticeably lower than Brearley etc. This may or may not be of significance to different families, but the pattern exists and it's not exactly clear what the cause of it is. If ED to Chicago etc. is what counselors regularly advise everywhere, why do we see these differences? If it's legacies mainly, why aren't they similarly distributed across all TT schools? Trinity is supposedly very big on legacies, but again, noticeable difference to Brearley. Etc. Some viewpoints on this upthread.

Traditionally Brearley has been the training ground for young ambitious ladies from prestigious families. The most connected and wealthy families send their children to Brearley. If I am merely rich and have no connections to a T50 university, I can get my dc into HM fairly easy. Many wealthy and famous people have had to pull favors to get their child into Brearley.

I don't know about HM but I don't think Trinity is that difficult to get into for high school if you have the grades/scores and are full pay. I know many kids who have gotten in this year that are pretty ordinary and have no connections. The smartest kid in our 8th grade class is actually going somewhere that most would consider 2T or 3T. I think Trinity is much easier than some of these schools that don't open up much in 9th.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:By insular, I mean UES. There are people from other places in the city, but the social culture of the place is very UES as is the Mom culture, as is the expected educational outcome. It may just be more kids are into the Ivy brand than a school with kids from all over the city.

Not sure if I buy that as the differentiator in college outcomes. Trinity is supposed to explicitly select for legacy parents at K and recruit top of the top ringers for half their class coming in for 9th grade.

Trinity has the fair share of Ivy and other elite/top25 schools.

But given it's size it also has a few of the SMU/Tulanes each year.

This year some not typical state schools show up - U Maryland, U Miss, Colorado State.

think these schools were represented in prior years but just the instagram self reporting differences, people being more proud of their school