Trump says he's agreed to Fox debate while Harris sticks with ABC plan

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:>> Trump said<<

Well, there’s your problem right there. He also said he was in a helicopter crash with the mayor of San Francisco. Trump simply isn’t a reliable vector of information.

The networks have sent invitations and asked for input from Harris-Walz. Thus far no response has been noted.

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Anonymous wrote:Is this the Trump campaign’s debate strategy? Make up dates on their own and then whine that the other party didn’t “agree”?

Obviously that is it. Why would Harris participate in that? It just makes her look easily manipulated.

If Harris unilaterally arranged a a debate and then scolded trump for not participating, he would tell her to get lost.

So she’s refusing to participate and claiming she’s being manipulated?

How will her campaign ever arrange another debate if she won’t propose any and won’t work with the Trump campaign or the networks?

Or is the September debate it? One and done?

How would I know? What I do know as an average suburban mom voter is that it appears that trump set up a debate in Fox on his own and then seems to think he can just bully her into to agreeing to show up. That is how it looks to me and I would not be impressed if she fell for that.

Ok, how do you think debates are arranged? What do you think happens? At a minimum, both sides need to be willing to talk. Harris doesn’t even want to discuss further debates until after September 11th. Even if you don’t like Trump, you have to agree he is trying to engage his opponent.

Nobody at this level is being trapped into a debate that is set up without their campaign negotiating and agreeing to rules. Are you stating that Kamala and her campaign are unable to do as every campaign before this election was able to do? Why is her campaign singularly at a disadvantage and unable to participate in arranging debates? You think she isn’t politically astute enough to set up a debate and her team is likewise deficient?

So when Trump refused to show up at any of the primary debates, that meant he wasn’t politically astute? Or did it mean he was a coward?

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Anonymous wrote:Is this the Trump campaign’s debate strategy? Make up dates on their own and then whine that the other party didn’t “agree”?

Obviously that is it. Why would Harris participate in that? It just makes her look easily manipulated.

If Harris unilaterally arranged a a debate and then scolded trump for not participating, he would tell her to get lost.

So she’s refusing to participate and claiming she’s being manipulated?

How will her campaign ever arrange another debate if she won’t propose any and won’t work with the Trump campaign or the networks?

Or is the September debate it? One and done?

How would I know? What I do know as an average suburban mom voter is that it appears that trump set up a debate in Fox on his own and then seems to think he can just bully her into to agreeing to show up. That is how it looks to me and I would not be impressed if she fell for that.

Ok, how do you think debates are arranged? What do you think happens? At a minimum, both sides need to be willing to talk. Harris doesn’t even want to discuss further debates until after September 11th. Even if you don’t like Trump, you have to agree he is trying to engage his opponent.

Nobody at this level is being trapped into a debate that is set up without their campaign negotiating and agreeing to rules. Are you stating that Kamala and her campaign are unable to do as every campaign before this election was able to do? Why is her campaign singularly at a disadvantage and unable to participate in arranging debates? You think she isn’t politically astute enough to set up a debate and her team is likewise deficient?

I don't see how fox news is appropriate for a debate.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Is this the Trump campaign’s debate strategy? Make up dates on their own and then whine that the other party didn’t “agree”?

Trump has worked with the networks to set up and facilitate the process to get debates tenable to both campaigns scheduled.

Is it the Harris debate strategy to talk a big game and be tough on tv but refuse to get in the ring but a single debate arranged by her boss?

It really makes her look weak as water and makes Hillary truly look like a strong candidate and a strong woman. Harris is letting women down and it’s a damn shame she’s dependent on the “brat” vote. This is not the droid women are looking for. *waves fingers through air subtly*

It was arranged by the Biden/Harris campaign, the same organization that is now the Harris/Walz campaign (same staff, same headquarters in Delaware, same bank account). While the debate was scheduled with a different person at the top of the ticket, Kamala is honoring the commitment made by her predecessor.

The problem is that Trump said "any time, any place" which lost him significant leverage in the negotiations - resulting in him accepting both debates proposed by the Democratic campaign. Perhaps he should have made a better deal.

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Anonymous wrote:Is this the Trump campaign’s debate strategy? Make up dates on their own and then whine that the other party didn’t “agree”?

Obviously that is it. Why would Harris participate in that? It just makes her look easily manipulated.

If Harris unilaterally arranged a a debate and then scolded trump for not participating, he would tell her to get lost.

So she’s refusing to participate and claiming she’s being manipulated?

How will her campaign ever arrange another debate if she won’t propose any and won’t work with the Trump campaign or the networks?

Or is the September debate it? One and done?

How would I know? What I do know as an average suburban mom voter is that it appears that trump set up a debate in Fox on his own and then seems to think he can just bully her into to agreeing to show up. That is how it looks to me and I would not be impressed if she fell for that.

Ok, how do you think debates are arranged? What do you think happens? At a minimum, both sides need to be willing to talk. Harris doesn’t even want to discuss further debates until after September 11th. Even if you don’t like Trump, you have to agree he is trying to engage his opponent.

Nobody at this level is being trapped into a debate that is set up without their campaign negotiating and agreeing to rules. Are you stating that Kamala and her campaign are unable to do as every campaign before this election was able to do? Why is her campaign singularly at a disadvantage and unable to participate in arranging debates? You think she isn’t politically astute enough to set up a debate and her team is likewise deficient?

So when Trump refused to show up at any of the primary debates, that meant he wasn’t politically astute? Or did it mean he was a coward?

It meant he knew he didn’t have to debate during the primaries to secure the nomination. And he was correct. He’s the nominee and he was politically astute enough to realize he would gain nothing by debating candidates who had no chance of securing the nomination.

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Anonymous wrote:Is this the Trump campaign’s debate strategy? Make up dates on their own and then whine that the other party didn’t “agree”?

Obviously that is it. Why would Harris participate in that? It just makes her look easily manipulated.

If Harris unilaterally arranged a a debate and then scolded trump for not participating, he would tell her to get lost.

So she’s refusing to participate and claiming she’s being manipulated?

How will her campaign ever arrange another debate if she won’t propose any and won’t work with the Trump campaign or the networks?

Or is the September debate it? One and done?

How would I know? What I do know as an average suburban mom voter is that it appears that trump set up a debate in Fox on his own and then seems to think he can just bully her into to agreeing to show up. That is how it looks to me and I would not be impressed if she fell for that.

Ok, how do you think debates are arranged? What do you think happens? At a minimum, both sides need to be willing to talk. Harris doesn’t even want to discuss further debates until after September 11th. Even if you don’t like Trump, you have to agree he is trying to engage his opponent.

Nobody at this level is being trapped into a debate that is set up without their campaign negotiating and agreeing to rules. Are you stating that Kamala and her campaign are unable to do as every campaign before this election was able to do? Why is her campaign singularly at a disadvantage and unable to participate in arranging debates? You think she isn’t politically astute enough to set up a debate and her team is likewise deficient?

I don't see how fox news is appropriate for a debate.

So Kamala’s campaign should propose some debates you feel are appropriate.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Is this the Trump campaign’s debate strategy? Make up dates on their own and then whine that the other party didn’t “agree”?

Obviously that is it. Why would Harris participate in that? It just makes her look easily manipulated.

If Harris unilaterally arranged a a debate and then scolded trump for not participating, he would tell her to get lost.

So she’s refusing to participate and claiming she’s being manipulated?

How will her campaign ever arrange another debate if she won’t propose any and won’t work with the Trump campaign or the networks?

Or is the September debate it? One and done?

How would I know? What I do know as an average suburban mom voter is that it appears that trump set up a debate in Fox on his own and then seems to think he can just bully her into to agreeing to show up. That is how it looks to me and I would not be impressed if she fell for that.

Ok, how do you think debates are arranged? What do you think happens? At a minimum, both sides need to be willing to talk. Harris doesn’t even want to discuss further debates until after September 11th. Even if you don’t like Trump, you have to agree he is trying to engage his opponent.

Nobody at this level is being trapped into a debate that is set up without their campaign negotiating and agreeing to rules. Are you stating that Kamala and her campaign are unable to do as every campaign before this election was able to do? Why is her campaign singularly at a disadvantage and unable to participate in arranging debates? You think she isn’t politically astute enough to set up a debate and her team is likewise deficient?

This is all gamesmanship. Trump *really* wants a debate on Fox News. He knows it would look silly if he proposed only that debate, so he throws in the NBC one. Harris would rather not debate on Fox News, but she knows it would look silly if she refused the Fox News debate while agreeing to the NBC debate - so she is (for the time being) saying no to both.

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Anonymous wrote:Is this the Trump campaign’s debate strategy? Make up dates on their own and then whine that the other party didn’t “agree”?

Obviously that is it. Why would Harris participate in that? It just makes her look easily manipulated.

If Harris unilaterally arranged a a debate and then scolded trump for not participating, he would tell her to get lost.

So she’s refusing to participate and claiming she’s being manipulated?

How will her campaign ever arrange another debate if she won’t propose any and won’t work with the Trump campaign or the networks?

Or is the September debate it? One and done?

How would I know? What I do know as an average suburban mom voter is that it appears that trump set up a debate in Fox on his own and then seems to think he can just bully her into to agreeing to show up. That is how it looks to me and I would not be impressed if she fell for that.

Ok, how do you think debates are arranged? What do you think happens? At a minimum, both sides need to be willing to talk. Harris doesn’t even want to discuss further debates until after September 11th. Even if you don’t like Trump, you have to agree he is trying to engage his opponent.

Nobody at this level is being trapped into a debate that is set up without their campaign negotiating and agreeing to rules. Are you stating that Kamala and her campaign are unable to do as every campaign before this election was able to do? Why is her campaign singularly at a disadvantage and unable to participate in arranging debates? You think she isn’t politically astute enough to set up a debate and her team is likewise deficient?

I don't see how fox news is appropriate for a debate.

So Kamala’s campaign should propose some debates you feel are appropriate.

If additional debates help her win, then she should do additional debates.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Is this the Trump campaign’s debate strategy? Make up dates on their own and then whine that the other party didn’t “agree”?

Obviously that is it. Why would Harris participate in that? It just makes her look easily manipulated.

If Harris unilaterally arranged a a debate and then scolded trump for not participating, he would tell her to get lost.

So she’s refusing to participate and claiming she’s being manipulated?

How will her campaign ever arrange another debate if she won’t propose any and won’t work with the Trump campaign or the networks?

Or is the September debate it? One and done?

How would I know? What I do know as an average suburban mom voter is that it appears that trump set up a debate in Fox on his own and then seems to think he can just bully her into to agreeing to show up. That is how it looks to me and I would not be impressed if she fell for that.

Ok, how do you think debates are arranged? What do you think happens? At a minimum, both sides need to be willing to talk. Harris doesn’t even want to discuss further debates until after September 11th. Even if you don’t like Trump, you have to agree he is trying to engage his opponent.

Nobody at this level is being trapped into a debate that is set up without their campaign negotiating and agreeing to rules. Are you stating that Kamala and her campaign are unable to do as every campaign before this election was able to do? Why is her campaign singularly at a disadvantage and unable to participate in arranging debates? You think she isn’t politically astute enough to set up a debate and her team is likewise deficient?

So when Trump refused to show up at any of the primary debates, that meant he wasn’t politically astute? Or did it mean he was a coward?

President Joe Biden has successfully fended off calls from his opponents for him to participate in primary debates, a move that would be unprecedented in recent memory.

Democrats have so far opted to tune out the primary challenges levied against him, with the Democratic National Committee throwing its support behind Biden. And while some in the party have criticized the organization and Biden as "un-democratic" for presuming he’s the de facto nominee, there’s precedent in sitting it out: No incumbent president has participated in a primary debate since the first modern debate was held in 1948, even when presented with high-profile primary challengers.
https://abcnews.go.com/amp/Politics/incumbent-president-participated-primary-debate-ford-democrats/story?id=99773858

Biden didn’t need to debate his primary challengers either.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Is this the Trump campaign’s debate strategy? Make up dates on their own and then whine that the other party didn’t “agree”?

Obviously that is it. Why would Harris participate in that? It just makes her look easily manipulated.

If Harris unilaterally arranged a a debate and then scolded trump for not participating, he would tell her to get lost.

So she’s refusing to participate and claiming she’s being manipulated?

How will her campaign ever arrange another debate if she won’t propose any and won’t work with the Trump campaign or the networks?

Or is the September debate it? One and done?

How would I know? What I do know as an average suburban mom voter is that it appears that trump set up a debate in Fox on his own and then seems to think he can just bully her into to agreeing to show up. That is how it looks to me and I would not be impressed if she fell for that.

Ok, how do you think debates are arranged? What do you think happens? At a minimum, both sides need to be willing to talk. Harris doesn’t even want to discuss further debates until after September 11th. Even if you don’t like Trump, you have to agree he is trying to engage his opponent.

Nobody at this level is being trapped into a debate that is set up without their campaign negotiating and agreeing to rules. Are you stating that Kamala and her campaign are unable to do as every campaign before this election was able to do? Why is her campaign singularly at a disadvantage and unable to participate in arranging debates? You think she isn’t politically astute enough to set up a debate and her team is likewise deficient?

So when Trump refused to show up at any of the primary debates, that meant he wasn’t politically astute? Or did it mean he was a coward?

President Joe Biden has successfully fended off calls from his opponents for him to participate in primary debates, a move that would be unprecedented in recent memory.

Democrats have so far opted to tune out the primary challenges levied against him, with the Democratic National Committee throwing its support behind Biden. And while some in the party have criticized the organization and Biden as "un-democratic" for presuming he’s the de facto nominee, there’s precedent in sitting it out: No incumbent president has participated in a primary debate since the first modern debate was held in 1948, even when presented with high-profile primary challengers.
https://abcnews.go.com/amp/Politics/incumbent-president-participated-primary-debate-ford-democrats/story?id=99773858

Biden didn’t need to debate his primary challengers either.

Biden was the incumbent. I don't recall Trump debating any of his primary challengers when he was the incumbent in 2020.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Is this the Trump campaign’s debate strategy? Make up dates on their own and then whine that the other party didn’t “agree”?

Obviously that is it. Why would Harris participate in that? It just makes her look easily manipulated.

If Harris unilaterally arranged a a debate and then scolded trump for not participating, he would tell her to get lost.

So she’s refusing to participate and claiming she’s being manipulated?

How will her campaign ever arrange another debate if she won’t propose any and won’t work with the Trump campaign or the networks?

Or is the September debate it? One and done?

How would I know? What I do know as an average suburban mom voter is that it appears that trump set up a debate in Fox on his own and then seems to think he can just bully her into to agreeing to show up. That is how it looks to me and I would not be impressed if she fell for that.

Ok, how do you think debates are arranged? What do you think happens? At a minimum, both sides need to be willing to talk. Harris doesn’t even want to discuss further debates until after September 11th. Even if you don’t like Trump, you have to agree he is trying to engage his opponent.

Nobody at this level is being trapped into a debate that is set up without their campaign negotiating and agreeing to rules. Are you stating that Kamala and her campaign are unable to do as every campaign before this election was able to do? Why is her campaign singularly at a disadvantage and unable to participate in arranging debates? You think she isn’t politically astute enough to set up a debate and her team is likewise deficient?

So when Trump refused to show up at any of the primary debates, that meant he wasn’t politically astute? Or did it mean he was a coward?

President Joe Biden has successfully fended off calls from his opponents for him to participate in primary debates, a move that would be unprecedented in recent memory.

Democrats have so far opted to tune out the primary challenges levied against him, with the Democratic National Committee throwing its support behind Biden. And while some in the party have criticized the organization and Biden as "un-democratic" for presuming he’s the de facto nominee, there’s precedent in sitting it out: No incumbent president has participated in a primary debate since the first modern debate was held in 1948, even when presented with high-profile primary challengers.
https://abcnews.go.com/amp/Politics/incumbent-president-participated-primary-debate-ford-democrats/story?id=99773858

Biden didn’t need to debate his primary challengers either.

Seems quite politically astute of Biden and Trump to not give free airtime to opponents when they were getting all the attention. Wonder if Harris making a similar calculation?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Is this the Trump campaign’s debate strategy? Make up dates on their own and then whine that the other party didn’t “agree”?

Obviously that is it. Why would Harris participate in that? It just makes her look easily manipulated.

If Harris unilaterally arranged a a debate and then scolded trump for not participating, he would tell her to get lost.

So she’s refusing to participate and claiming she’s being manipulated?

How will her campaign ever arrange another debate if she won’t propose any and won’t work with the Trump campaign or the networks?

Or is the September debate it? One and done?

How would I know? What I do know as an average suburban mom voter is that it appears that trump set up a debate in Fox on his own and then seems to think he can just bully her into to agreeing to show up. That is how it looks to me and I would not be impressed if she fell for that.

Ok, how do you think debates are arranged? What do you think happens? At a minimum, both sides need to be willing to talk. Harris doesn’t even want to discuss further debates until after September 11th. Even if you don’t like Trump, you have to agree he is trying to engage his opponent.

Nobody at this level is being trapped into a debate that is set up without their campaign negotiating and agreeing to rules. Are you stating that Kamala and her campaign are unable to do as every campaign before this election was able to do? Why is her campaign singularly at a disadvantage and unable to participate in arranging debates? You think she isn’t politically astute enough to set up a debate and her team is likewise deficient?

So when Trump refused to show up at any of the primary debates, that meant he wasn’t politically astute? Or did it mean he was a coward?

President Joe Biden has successfully fended off calls from his opponents for him to participate in primary debates, a move that would be unprecedented in recent memory.

Democrats have so far opted to tune out the primary challenges levied against him, with the Democratic National Committee throwing its support behind Biden. And while some in the party have criticized the organization and Biden as "un-democratic" for presuming he’s the de facto nominee, there’s precedent in sitting it out: No incumbent president has participated in a primary debate since the first modern debate was held in 1948, even when presented with high-profile primary challengers.
https://abcnews.go.com/amp/Politics/incumbent-president-participated-primary-debate-ford-democrats/story?id=99773858

Biden didn’t need to debate his primary challengers either.

Biden was the incumbent. I don't recall Trump debating any of his primary challengers when he was the incumbent in 2020.

Completely agree. Trump, politically speaking, was the incumbent republican candidate and didn’t debate either.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So far from the responses here, it seems like Kamala is at a disadvantage debating anyone, not just Trump. She is not good at taking questions or thinking on her feet and her laugh is used as a cover. Her further resistance to scheduling debates bears that out.

That is just manipulative drivel. She looks like a winner right now. The originally scheduled debate in September helps her win and she will participate.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Is this the Trump campaign’s debate strategy? Make up dates on their own and then whine that the other party didn’t “agree”?

Obviously that is it. Why would Harris participate in that? It just makes her look easily manipulated.

If Harris unilaterally arranged a a debate and then scolded trump for not participating, he would tell her to get lost.

So she’s refusing to participate and claiming she’s being manipulated?

How will her campaign ever arrange another debate if she won’t propose any and won’t work with the Trump campaign or the networks?

Or is the September debate it? One and done?

How would I know? What I do know as an average suburban mom voter is that it appears that trump set up a debate in Fox on his own and then seems to think he can just bully her into to agreeing to show up. That is how it looks to me and I would not be impressed if she fell for that.

Ok, how do you think debates are arranged? What do you think happens? At a minimum, both sides need to be willing to talk. Harris doesn’t even want to discuss further debates until after September 11th. Even if you don’t like Trump, you have to agree he is trying to engage his opponent.

Nobody at this level is being trapped into a debate that is set up without their campaign negotiating and agreeing to rules. Are you stating that Kamala and her campaign are unable to do as every campaign before this election was able to do? Why is her campaign singularly at a disadvantage and unable to participate in arranging debates? You think she isn’t politically astute enough to set up a debate and her team is likewise deficient?

So when Trump refused to show up at any of the primary debates, that meant he wasn’t politically astute? Or did it mean he was a coward?

President Joe Biden has successfully fended off calls from his opponents for him to participate in primary debates, a move that would be unprecedented in recent memory.

Democrats have so far opted to tune out the primary challenges levied against him, with the Democratic National Committee throwing its support behind Biden. And while some in the party have criticized the organization and Biden as "un-democratic" for presuming he’s the de facto nominee, there’s precedent in sitting it out: No incumbent president has participated in a primary debate since the first modern debate was held in 1948, even when presented with high-profile primary challengers.
https://abcnews.go.com/amp/Politics/incumbent-president-participated-primary-debate-ford-democrats/story?id=99773858

Biden didn’t need to debate his primary challengers either.

Seems quite politically astute of Biden and Trump to not give free airtime to opponents when they were getting all the attention. Wonder if Harris making a similar calculation?

So Harris is going to one and done the debates to keep Trump from getting free airtime? Would she not be getting free airtime in the debates as well?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So far from the responses here, it seems like Kamala is at a disadvantage debating anyone, not just Trump. She is not good at taking questions or thinking on her feet and her laugh is used as a cover. Her further resistance to scheduling debates bears that out.

That is just manipulative drivel. She looks like a winner right now. The originally scheduled debate in September helps her win and she will participate.

Presidential candidates are not manipulated into debating their opponents, they are eager to do so and to promote themselves and their plans and policies to American voters.

Only agreeing to a single debate your male boss previously made does not say “I am a winner.”