Kamala Harris for President

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Anonymous wrote:Can Biden step down and hand Kamala the 47th presidency and she run as the incumbent?

If Biden isn't well enough to run, he's not well enough to lead. If Dems were genuinely as excited about Harris as posters here say, they would do this. That would lock in the nomination for Harris. Absent that, anything can happen in an open convention.

The convention is purely ceremonial. You get that. Right? Because the convention is being help after the Ohio deadline and maybe 1-2 others to submit the nominee. And no one trusts Ohio Rs when they say they will make an exception and put the Dem nominee on the ballot despite that, especially now. So, the actual delegate voting will start no earlier than 8/1 and will be completed no later than 8/7, via a virtual convention. And as of last evening, Harris had well over the number of delegates she needs. She’ll get the nomination in a virtual vote next week. That plan was announced under Biden when it became clear Ohio might try to keep him off the ballot. And it was announced yesterday that was still the plan. As it should be. I don’t trust Ohio or a red state to put Harris on the ballot.

By the time we reach the convention, she’s been formally nominated for a couple of weeks and already had her name submitted to the states. The convention is just free prime time and speeches and tag rah go team.

Why is the convention so late? Good question. The incumbent party goes last, and they are programming against the Olympics.

They chose television programming over ballot deadlines, and you want me to vote for them with that kind of judgment?

Trump tweets our national intelligence details, but you think he has good judgement?

No, I don’t.

Moderates, swing voters, independents: you need our votes. For many of us, it isn’t a choice between Democrats and MAGA. It’s a choice between Democrats and staying home.

A lot of us haven’t seen the Democrats do enough to preserve what we care about: ending school shootings, protecting gay marriage from a Dobbs-type overturn, national healthcare, and reforms of so many basic social systems that have become rampantly predatory. They lost Roe. They didn’t do enough, they took it for granted, and they lost it, and I have zero faith that it won’t happen again. There is no anti-Project 2025 plan from the Democrats. There is a lot of fundraising against its spectre, but no plan.

And we see that if MAGA doesn’t win in 2024, it will only be a stay of execution; we will have Project 2029 instead.

Most of the Democrat voters don’t want to have this conversation, though. They want to assume I’m a MAGA follower for questioning what the Democrats are doing.

No, I just want to point out that frequently the Democrats are trying but they’re being blocked the Republicans at every turn. The Democratic Party cannot single-handedly fix everything when they’re being rat snuggled by the GOP.

Do I get annoyed that our party plays by the rules and seems, generally, to lack the Machiavellian skills that the GOP has (the Biden pulling the rug out from the Let’s Go Brandon party notwithstanding; that was a masterstroke)? Hell yeah I do. But the GOP blocks everything and the gerrymandered states that limit the actual power of Democratic voters has me aware that unless we vote out the GOP in shocking numbers, it’s slow progress or go backwards. I’ll pick slow progress with the hope that the younger, invigorated Democrats like AOC and Jeffries push it forward faster.

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Anonymous wrote:If she picks any of the governors that behaved like authoritarians during Covid many will refrain from voting and in fact it may motivate many to vote for Trump.

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I find this Republican take humorous, that people are still going to be mad about covid restrictions (which is not authoritarianism) but that women will somehow have forgotten about/gotten over Roe.

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Anonymous wrote:Can Biden step down and hand Kamala the 47th presidency and she run as the incumbent?

If Biden isn't well enough to run, he's not well enough to lead. If Dems were genuinely as excited about Harris as posters here say, they would do this. That would lock in the nomination for Harris. Absent that, anything can happen in an open convention.

The convention is purely ceremonial. You get that. Right? Because the convention is being help after the Ohio deadline and maybe 1-2 others to submit the nominee. And no one trusts Ohio Rs when they say they will make an exception and put the Dem nominee on the ballot despite that, especially now. So, the actual delegate voting will start no earlier than 8/1 and will be completed no later than 8/7, via a virtual convention. And as of last evening, Harris had well over the number of delegates she needs. She’ll get the nomination in a virtual vote next week. That plan was announced under Biden when it became clear Ohio might try to keep him off the ballot. And it was announced yesterday that was still the plan. As it should be. I don’t trust Ohio or a red state to put Harris on the ballot.

By the time we reach the convention, she’s been formally nominated for a couple of weeks and already had her name submitted to the states. The convention is just free prime time and speeches and tag rah go team.

Why is the convention so late? Good question. The incumbent party goes last, and they are programming against the Olympics.

Until delegate voting concludes, nothing is locked down.

True. But that is no later than 8/7, the Ohio ballot deadline. It’s not at the actual convention

If there are any large gaffes, poor polls, or poor press, they will weigh the trade-off of flexibility and the 7th. Many Dems and donors remain unsure that Harris can win.

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Trump scares Washington because his instincts are correct. We do need more isolationism , less war , and less free trade as it has damaged our countries manufacturing industry and caused probably more climate catastrophe globally to send these jobs overseas where there definitely is no regulation or such thing as clean energy initiatives .

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Anonymous wrote:Can Biden step down and hand Kamala the 47th presidency and she run as the incumbent?

If Biden isn't well enough to run, he's not well enough to lead. If Dems were genuinely as excited about Harris as posters here say, they would do this. That would lock in the nomination for Harris. Absent that, anything can happen in an open convention.

The convention is purely ceremonial. You get that. Right? Because the convention is being help after the Ohio deadline and maybe 1-2 others to submit the nominee. And no one trusts Ohio Rs when they say they will make an exception and put the Dem nominee on the ballot despite that, especially now. So, the actual delegate voting will start no earlier than 8/1 and will be completed no later than 8/7, via a virtual convention. And as of last evening, Harris had well over the number of delegates she needs. She’ll get the nomination in a virtual vote next week. That plan was announced under Biden when it became clear Ohio might try to keep him off the ballot. And it was announced yesterday that was still the plan. As it should be. I don’t trust Ohio or a red state to put Harris on the ballot.

By the time we reach the convention, she’s been formally nominated for a couple of weeks and already had her name submitted to the states. The convention is just free prime time and speeches and tag rah go team.

Why is the convention so late? Good question. The incumbent party goes last, and they are programming against the Olympics.

They chose television programming over ballot deadlines, and you want me to vote for them with that kind of judgment?

Trump tweets our national intelligence details, but you think he has good judgement?

No, I don’t.

Moderates, swing voters, independents: you need our votes. For many of us, it isn’t a choice between Democrats and MAGA. It’s a choice between Democrats and staying home.

A lot of us haven’t seen the Democrats do enough to preserve what we care about: ending school shootings, protecting gay marriage from a Dobbs-type overturn, national healthcare, and reforms of so many basic social systems that have become rampantly predatory. They lost Roe. They didn’t do enough, they took it for granted, and they lost it, and I have zero faith that it won’t happen again. There is no anti-Project 2025 plan from the Democrats. There is a lot of fundraising against its spectre, but no plan.

And we see that if MAGA doesn’t win in 2024, it will only be a stay of execution; we will have Project 2029 instead.

Most of the Democrat voters don’t want to have this conversation, though. They want to assume I’m a MAGA follower for questioning what the Democrats are doing.

No, I just want to point out that frequently the Democrats are trying but they’re being blocked the Republicans at every turn. The Democratic Party cannot single-handedly fix everything when they’re being rat snuggled by the GOP.

Do I get annoyed that our party plays by the rules and seems, generally, to lack the Machiavellian skills that the GOP has (the Biden pulling the rug out from the Let’s Go Brandon party notwithstanding; that was a masterstroke)? Hell yeah I do. But the GOP blocks everything and the gerrymandered states that limit the actual power of Democratic voters has me aware that unless we vote out the GOP in shocking numbers, it’s slow progress or go backwards. I’ll pick slow progress with the hope that the younger, invigorated Democrats like AOC and Jeffries push it forward faster.

I get that. But if the Democrats are consistently powerless, why should I keep donating to them? Why should I keep voting for them?

As far as I can tell, we ARE going backwards. We lost Roe. The candidate for the “good guys” dropped out last minute and his party planned a convention AFTER the ballot deadline.

Slow progress? Where?

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Anonymous wrote:What the heck made Hilary un unqualified candidate? She was the most qualified candidate that has ever run!

Petty jealousy from women. That's the only explanation that makes sense. They voted in a sexual predator rather than help advance women. Now they are complaining because the sexual predator that they chose took abortion away

It wasn’t petty jealousy. It was internalized misogyny. Millions of women were told that they were inherently less than men, less intelligent, less capable, just less all around.

And that’s just regular, non religious women. For women who were reared in many traditional religions, mostly Christianity, they were told by instruments of God that women were inherently less good, more sinful, the cause of the Fall of Man, incapable of being sacred (unless they birthed the Lord! Mary gets a special pass for birthing the Lord!).

Many women have internalized these messages and do not think critically about these messages, ever. Add in decades of personal experiences big and small that remind women that many men see them as lesser beings (and it’s still happening; my friend just switched companies because the guy she worked under really resented women - and this is at a company dominated by women in the C-suite), and you have women shutting down and existing in denial as a way to cope.

Way to insult millions of women, PP!

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Word to the wise- All that glitters is not gold.

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Anonymous wrote:What the heck made Hilary un unqualified candidate? She was the most qualified candidate that has ever run!

Petty jealousy from women. That's the only explanation that makes sense. They voted in a sexual predator rather than help advance women. Now they are complaining because the sexual predator that they chose took abortion away

Hillary was crooked Hillary though. She cheated Bernie sanders along with DNC cronies . Trump was right about Hillary. Hillary called the country deplorable weeks before election day. Her campaign slogan was “I’m with her “. Not she’s with us.

It was a cult of personality much like Trump surrounding Hillary but with the sense of elitism and monarchical “right to the throne” sensibilities added in. Trump may have been born rich but he didn’t act like he was too good to hang out and talk to the poors. He went to every small town in the flyover states and spoke for hours for free rain, wind and shine.

Hillary hid and only completed donor dinners for Hwood and Wall Street 25,000 dollar a plate affairs . She was far from the people’s Princess

Uh, she ran a campaign and won. Bernie is not a democrat. Why would you think the democratic party would nominate someone who isn't a part of the party?

And yes, she did campaigns, she spoke at different places around the country. All on video if you care to search.

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Glad you agreed that capitalism is the same as corporate greed, which is one of the reasons why they ship jobs overseas. Will Trump impose regulations to bring back those jobs, I wonder?

Joe already did that.

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Anonymous wrote:Can Biden step down and hand Kamala the 47th presidency and she run as the incumbent?

If Biden isn't well enough to run, he's not well enough to lead. If Dems were genuinely as excited about Harris as posters here say, they would do this. That would lock in the nomination for Harris. Absent that, anything can happen in an open convention.

The convention is purely ceremonial. You get that. Right? Because the convention is being help after the Ohio deadline and maybe 1-2 others to submit the nominee. And no one trusts Ohio Rs when they say they will make an exception and put the Dem nominee on the ballot despite that, especially now. So, the actual delegate voting will start no earlier than 8/1 and will be completed no later than 8/7, via a virtual convention. And as of last evening, Harris had well over the number of delegates she needs. She’ll get the nomination in a virtual vote next week. That plan was announced under Biden when it became clear Ohio might try to keep him off the ballot. And it was announced yesterday that was still the plan. As it should be. I don’t trust Ohio or a red state to put Harris on the ballot.

By the time we reach the convention, she’s been formally nominated for a couple of weeks and already had her name submitted to the states. The convention is just free prime time and speeches and tag rah go team.

Why is the convention so late? Good question. The incumbent party goes last, and they are programming against the Olympics.

They chose television programming over ballot deadlines, and you want me to vote for them with that kind of judgment?

It had been that way every olympic year...you can actually google it, nothing new.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What the heck made Hilary un unqualified candidate? She was the most qualified candidate that has ever run!

Petty jealousy from women. That's the only explanation that makes sense. They voted in a sexual predator rather than help advance women. Now they are complaining because the sexual predator that they chose took abortion away

It wasn’t petty jealousy. It was internalized misogyny. Millions of women were told that they were inherently less than men, less intelligent, less capable, just less all around.

And that’s just regular, non religious women. For women who were reared in many traditional religions, mostly Christianity, they were told by instruments of God that women were inherently less good, more sinful, the cause of the Fall of Man, incapable of being sacred (unless they birthed the Lord! Mary gets a special pass for birthing the Lord!).

Many women have internalized these messages and do not think critically about these messages, ever. Add in decades of personal experiences big and small that remind women that many men see them as lesser beings (and it’s still happening; my friend just switched companies because the guy she worked under really resented women - and this is at a company dominated by women in the C-suite), and you have women shutting down and existing in denial as a way to cope.

Way to insult millions of women, PP!

Are you the same PP as 13:39?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can Biden step down and hand Kamala the 47th presidency and she run as the incumbent?

If Biden isn't well enough to run, he's not well enough to lead. If Dems were genuinely as excited about Harris as posters here say, they would do this. That would lock in the nomination for Harris. Absent that, anything can happen in an open convention.

The convention is purely ceremonial. You get that. Right? Because the convention is being help after the Ohio deadline and maybe 1-2 others to submit the nominee. And no one trusts Ohio Rs when they say they will make an exception and put the Dem nominee on the ballot despite that, especially now. So, the actual delegate voting will start no earlier than 8/1 and will be completed no later than 8/7, via a virtual convention. And as of last evening, Harris had well over the number of delegates she needs. She’ll get the nomination in a virtual vote next week. That plan was announced under Biden when it became clear Ohio might try to keep him off the ballot. And it was announced yesterday that was still the plan. As it should be. I don’t trust Ohio or a red state to put Harris on the ballot.

By the time we reach the convention, she’s been formally nominated for a couple of weeks and already had her name submitted to the states. The convention is just free prime time and speeches and tag rah go team.

Why is the convention so late? Good question. The incumbent party goes last, and they are programming against the Olympics.

They chose television programming over ballot deadlines, and you want me to vote for them with that kind of judgment?

It had been that way every olympic year...you can actually google it, nothing new.

That wasn’t the question. The question was, why should that sort of judgment induce me to vote for their candidate?

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Anonymous wrote:I am a woman who did not vote for Hillary. I am not voting for someone simply because she's a woman. This is the big prob with DEI.

Whether I voted for T is not the issue. You still have run someone I believe in to get my vote. I'm over the first woman, first black, first Asian thing with Kamala. She's a human being and I vote for the human I can get behind. Trump or no Trump.

I want the best person for the job. Anything less is just reverse discrimination. Hillary had so many issues. It's her. Not her as a woman!

I agree with you, but it's still exciting to think a woman (and a minority) might become POTUS.

In any case, no politician is perfect, so you have to just pick the lesser of the two evils.

Trump is a national security risk, even is national security advisors thought so. That's enough for me to not vote for him.

True. But Trump also had the courage to finally end our stupid twenty year wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. Unlike Obama. Or Hillary Clinton.

Absolutely no one has any idea what Kamala Harris is likely to do as President when it comes to foreign policy and the use of our military. Trump and this generation of Republicans are fairly isolationist and do not seem keen to start stupid wars. Whereas Democrats like Biden and Clinton were all in when it came to invading Iraq, wasting trillions in Afghanistan, reckless military adventurism in Libya, and so on and so forth.

And I fear that Kamala Harris is going to be similarly reckless. Democrats have a mortal fear of being perceived as weak and are far too willing to resort to military force. Mainstream Democrats were all in favor of the invasion of Iraq. Republicans have had a reckoning and now think differently. But not so Democrats, who are far more likely to engage in dumb warmongering.

The war in Iraq was over before Trump took office.
Trump left the mess of the pullout of Afghanistan to Biden after undercutting the US and its Afghan and European Allies, releasing Taliban prisoners and cutting the US presence to the bone.

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Anonymous wrote:Trump scares Washington because his instincts are correct. We do need more isolationism , less war , and less free trade as it has damaged our countries manufacturing industry and caused probably more climate catastrophe globally to send these jobs overseas where there definitely is no regulation or such thing as clean energy initiatives .

You know, you're not wrong about some of these ideas. We do need less war, more protections on industry/jobs and perhaps more isolation but not at the risk of appeasement the way Chamberlain did before WW2 . The problem is, Trump isn't the guy for that job. He starts reckless trade wars. He cozies up to dictators and turns his back on our allies. He literally said his presidency is for sale. He provides tax cuts to the wealthy at the expense of the middle class. Biden actually has brought manufacturing jobs back as well as clean energy and infrastructure -- something the GOP didn't support but wants to now claim credit for. The Democratic party, for all of its flaws, is trying to protect workers' rights. It definitely was misguided back in the 1990s and 2000s - believing in free trade without recognizing the consequences but so was the GOP in terms of being complicit in NAFTA, etc. Both parties recognize the issues with this now.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can Biden step down and hand Kamala the 47th presidency and she run as the incumbent?

If Biden isn't well enough to run, he's not well enough to lead. If Dems were genuinely as excited about Harris as posters here say, they would do this. That would lock in the nomination for Harris. Absent that, anything can happen in an open convention.

The convention is purely ceremonial. You get that. Right? Because the convention is being help after the Ohio deadline and maybe 1-2 others to submit the nominee. And no one trusts Ohio Rs when they say they will make an exception and put the Dem nominee on the ballot despite that, especially now. So, the actual delegate voting will start no earlier than 8/1 and will be completed no later than 8/7, via a virtual convention. And as of last evening, Harris had well over the number of delegates she needs. She’ll get the nomination in a virtual vote next week. That plan was announced under Biden when it became clear Ohio might try to keep him off the ballot. And it was announced yesterday that was still the plan. As it should be. I don’t trust Ohio or a red state to put Harris on the ballot.

By the time we reach the convention, she’s been formally nominated for a couple of weeks and already had her name submitted to the states. The convention is just free prime time and speeches and tag rah go team.

Why is the convention so late? Good question. The incumbent party goes last, and they are programming against the Olympics.

They chose television programming over ballot deadlines, and you want me to vote for them with that kind of judgment?

It had been that way every olympic year...you can actually google it, nothing new.

+1 and adding that every presidential election is in an Olympic year.