Woodward HS boundary study - BCC, Blair, Einstein, WJ, Kennedy, Northwood, Wheaton, Whitman impacts

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Anonymous wrote:I think the biggest impact will be felt in the DCC w/ Einstein. They will probably lose an elementary school so that the Kensington Parkwood Elementary kids can be re-districted to Einstein.

From what I have been told from those in the know is that doing this helps improve a number of state measured metrics and that every potential model starts with this move.

Have heard this recently too and while it makes a lot of sense, I am sure gazillions of dollars in legal fees will be wasted to avoid it happening.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think the biggest impact will be felt in the DCC w/ Einstein. They will probably lose an elementary school so that the Kensington Parkwood Elementary kids can be re-districted to Einstein.

From what I have been told from those in the know is that doing this helps improve a number of state measured metrics and that every potential model starts with this move.

Really? I think the biggest impact will be at the W's because of the greater diversity.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think the biggest impact will be felt in the DCC w/ Einstein. They will probably lose an elementary school so that the Kensington Parkwood Elementary kids can be re-districted to Einstein.

From what I have been told from those in the know is that doing this helps improve a number of state measured metrics and that every potential model starts with this move.

Einstein is already 500 students overcapacity. There are 15 portables surrounding the school. To lose one elementary school only to gain another one would do nothing to address the ridiculous overcrowding.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think the biggest impact will be felt in the DCC w/ Einstein. They will probably lose an elementary school so that the Kensington Parkwood Elementary kids can be re-districted to Einstein.

From what I have been told from those in the know is that doing this helps improve a number of state measured metrics and that every potential model starts with this move.

Einstein is already 500 students overcapacity. There are 15 portables surrounding the school. To lose one elementary school only to gain another one would do nothing to address the ridiculous overcrowding.

They need to remodel Einstein and make it bigger. Moving one school will help but not as much as there is a lot of growth in the area and its is/was more affordable housing so its had a huge influx of families. Einstein needs to be torn down and rebuilt.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think the biggest impact will be felt in the DCC w/ Einstein. They will probably lose an elementary school so that the Kensington Parkwood Elementary kids can be re-districted to Einstein.

From what I have been told from those in the know is that doing this helps improve a number of state measured metrics and that every potential model starts with this move.

Have heard this recently too and while it makes a lot of sense, I am sure gazillions of dollars in legal fees will be wasted to avoid it happening.

They don't care about race. And, busing kids isn't the solution.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think the biggest impact will be felt in the DCC w/ Einstein. They will probably lose an elementary school so that the Kensington Parkwood Elementary kids can be re-districted to Einstein.

From what I have been told from those in the know is that doing this helps improve a number of state measured metrics and that every potential model starts with this move.

Einstein is already 500 students overcapacity. There are 15 portables surrounding the school. To lose one elementary school only to gain another one would do nothing to address the ridiculous overcrowding.

+1, if there is consideration being given to adding Parkwood to Einstein there would have to be 2 existing Einstein feeders sent elsewhere because of the overcrowding.

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Anonymous wrote:I think the biggest impact will be felt in the DCC w/ Einstein. They will probably lose an elementary school so that the Kensington Parkwood Elementary kids can be re-districted to Einstein.

From what I have been told from those in the know is that doing this helps improve a number of state measured metrics and that every potential model starts with this move.

Einstein is already 500 students overcapacity. There are 15 portables surrounding the school. To lose one elementary school only to gain another one would do nothing to address the ridiculous overcrowding.

They need to remodel Einstein and make it bigger. Moving one school will help but not as much as there is a lot of growth in the area and its is/was more affordable housing so its had a huge influx of families. Einstein needs to be torn down and rebuilt.

They don't need to do a whole rebuild, they just need a substantial addition built onto the back of the school. Which they looked into a few years back, but somehow decided against.

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Anonymous wrote:I think the biggest impact will be felt in the DCC w/ Einstein. They will probably lose an elementary school so that the Kensington Parkwood Elementary kids can be re-districted to Einstein.

From what I have been told from those in the know is that doing this helps improve a number of state measured metrics and that every potential model starts with this move.

Einstein is already 500 students overcapacity. There are 15 portables surrounding the school. To lose one elementary school only to gain another one would do nothing to address the ridiculous overcrowding.

They need to remodel Einstein and make it bigger. Moving one school will help but not as much as there is a lot of growth in the area and its is/was more affordable housing so its had a huge influx of families. Einstein needs to be torn down and rebuilt.

They don't need to do a whole rebuild, they just need a substantial addition built onto the back of the school. Which they looked into a few years back, but somehow decided against.

Not currently in the plans. Time to get the Einstein PTSA together to advocate.

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Anonymous wrote:I think the biggest impact will be felt in the DCC w/ Einstein. They will probably lose an elementary school so that the Kensington Parkwood Elementary kids can be re-districted to Einstein.

From what I have been told from those in the know is that doing this helps improve a number of state measured metrics and that every potential model starts with this move.

Einstein is already 500 students overcapacity. There are 15 portables surrounding the school. To lose one elementary school only to gain another one would do nothing to address the ridiculous overcrowding.

They need to remodel Einstein and make it bigger. Moving one school will help but not as much as there is a lot of growth in the area and its is/was more affordable housing so its had a huge influx of families. Einstein needs to be torn down and rebuilt.

They don't need to do a whole rebuild, they just need a substantial addition built onto the back of the school. Which they looked into a few years back, but somehow decided against.

Not currently in the plans. Time to get the Einstein PTSA together to advocate.

I agree, but it's not going to even be considered until after the new boundaries are settled and we have new enrollment numbers and projections.

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Anonymous wrote:I think the biggest impact will be felt in the DCC w/ Einstein. They will probably lose an elementary school so that the Kensington Parkwood Elementary kids can be re-districted to Einstein.

From what I have been told from those in the know is that doing this helps improve a number of state measured metrics and that every potential model starts with this move.

Einstein is already 500 students overcapacity. There are 15 portables surrounding the school. To lose one elementary school only to gain another one would do nothing to address the ridiculous overcrowding.

They need to remodel Einstein and make it bigger. Moving one school will help but not as much as there is a lot of growth in the area and its is/was more affordable housing so its had a huge influx of families. Einstein needs to be torn down and rebuilt.

They don't need to do a whole rebuild, they just need a substantial addition built onto the back of the school. Which they looked into a few years back, but somehow decided against.

Not currently in the plans. Time to get the Einstein PTSA together to advocate.

I agree, but it's not going to even be considered until after the new boundaries are settled and we have new enrollment numbers and projections.

Speculation: Walter Johnson capacity is 2291 (573 ish per year) and it is projected to be 792 over capacity at the end of the '25-'26 school year when Woodward reopens for the cluster. North Bethesda has projected about 411 per year in 2026, so 1644 seats. Leaving 647 open at WJ or about 162 per year. Tilden projections show accounts for about 414 students per year, so about 1656 total. Woodward capacity is 2159, or about 540 per year. If, as we are guessing, Tilden goes to Woodward, that leaves about 126 per year. Please recall that ES boundaries are NOT in play in this boundary study. With these numbers, we are not looking at moving more than 2 ESes.

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Anonymous wrote:I think the biggest impact will be felt in the DCC w/ Einstein. They will probably lose an elementary school so that the Kensington Parkwood Elementary kids can be re-districted to Einstein.

From what I have been told from those in the know is that doing this helps improve a number of state measured metrics and that every potential model starts with this move.

Einstein is already 500 students overcapacity. There are 15 portables surrounding the school. To lose one elementary school only to gain another one would do nothing to address the ridiculous overcrowding.

They need to remodel Einstein and make it bigger. Moving one school will help but not as much as there is a lot of growth in the area and its is/was more affordable housing so its had a huge influx of families. Einstein needs to be torn down and rebuilt.

They don't need to do a whole rebuild, they just need a substantial addition built onto the back of the school. Which they looked into a few years back, but somehow decided against.

Not currently in the plans. Time to get the Einstein PTSA together to advocate.

I agree, but it's not going to even be considered until after the new boundaries are settled and we have new enrollment numbers and projections.

Speculation: Walter Johnson capacity is 2291 (573 ish per year) and it is projected to be 792 over capacity at the end of the '25-'26 school year when Woodward reopens for the cluster. North Bethesda has projected about 411 per year in 2026, so 1644 seats. Leaving 647 open at WJ or about 162 per year. Tilden projections show accounts for about 414 students per year, so about 1656 total. Woodward capacity is 2159, or about 540 per year. If, as we are guessing, Tilden goes to Woodward, that leaves about 126 per year. Please recall that ES boundaries are NOT in play in this boundary study. With these numbers, we are not looking at moving more than 2 ESes.

There will also be more space available at the new Northwood, at Whitman, and at WJ if all of Tilden is zoned to Woodward.

[Anonymous]

Geez, with those numbers, they could basically fill WJ with just NB. They should probably do that since the projections are consistently too low and 162 seats per year gives them a little wiggle room to stay under capacity. They really should be looking to target schools at something like 90% of capacity—otherwise there is a 50/50 chance that they will go over capacity in any given year. Does anyone know if these projections are stochastic or deterministic?

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But K-P is part of NB, so how does rezoning K-P to Einstein fit with the idea of rezoning all of Tilden to Woodward? Then WJ would be left with just Ashburton and Wyngate.

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Anonymous wrote:I think the biggest impact will be felt in the DCC w/ Einstein. They will probably lose an elementary school so that the Kensington Parkwood Elementary kids can be re-districted to Einstein.

From what I have been told from those in the know is that doing this helps improve a number of state measured metrics and that every potential model starts with this move.

Einstein is already 500 students overcapacity. There are 15 portables surrounding the school. To lose one elementary school only to gain another one would do nothing to address the ridiculous overcrowding.

They need to remodel Einstein and make it bigger. Moving one school will help but not as much as there is a lot of growth in the area and its is/was more affordable housing so its had a huge influx of families. Einstein needs to be torn down and rebuilt.

They don't need to do a whole rebuild, they just need a substantial addition built onto the back of the school. Which they looked into a few years back, but somehow decided against.

Not currently in the plans. Time to get the Einstein PTSA together to advocate.

I agree, but it's not going to even be considered until after the new boundaries are settled and we have new enrollment numbers and projections.

Speculation: Walter Johnson capacity is 2291 (573 ish per year) and it is projected to be 792 over capacity at the end of the '25-'26 school year when Woodward reopens for the cluster. North Bethesda has projected about 411 per year in 2026, so 1644 seats. Leaving 647 open at WJ or about 162 per year. Tilden projections show accounts for about 414 students per year, so about 1656 total. Woodward capacity is 2159, or about 540 per year. If, as we are guessing, Tilden goes to Woodward, that leaves about 126 per year. Please recall that ES boundaries are NOT in play in this boundary study. With these numbers, we are not looking at moving more than 2 ESes.

Why would WJ be split in half, and and two crowded DCC schools (Einstein and Wheaton) get little relief? I get that your plan sounds clean from an articulation perspective, but it does little to address crowding overall. What about sending two of WJ's elementaries to Woodward and then pulling two elementaries from the DCC there? Sure, that would mean some reshuffling for middle between Tilden and NB, but that would be more equitable overall.

The reality is that there are no easy answers, as much as everyone, myself included, wishes for those.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think the biggest impact will be felt in the DCC w/ Einstein. They will probably lose an elementary school so that the Kensington Parkwood Elementary kids can be re-districted to Einstein.

From what I have been told from those in the know is that doing this helps improve a number of state measured metrics and that every potential model starts with this move.

They may or may not be in the know, but the outcome of the boundary study is not predetermined. Unexpected things can happen.